Someone reviewed v on Jul 5, 2022

Pros: 555

Cons: 555

Bottom Line: 555

CyberDoc999 reviewed v15.7.1 on Aug 25, 2015

skip all the fuss and crap just use device manager to install the driver you
update and all is well no cc and no services

Pkshadow reviewed v15.7.1 on Aug 24, 2015

All works well but if the screen resizes too large with icons, task bar missing
it may be possible to drag the menu open and hit run and enter ccc.exe and go into the panel and find scaling options so can resize your screen.

Drivers seem fine but I do agree that this program is getting much to large as well if look in Windows Event Viewer and check out the issues that these guys let slide in every version.

AMD fix your mess your causing in Event Viewer as well as the issues that cause the reports to be sent to MS.
This is not the way to release a finished product.

Pkshadow reviewed v15.7 on Jul 10, 2015

15.7 Well this install proved disastrous. It resized my screen too large and when set it back to proper aspects everything again was too large. Resized again and it was like monster sized icons, As well it lost my trash can. Uninstall did not prove at all helpful and had to restore my cpu to a earlier time. Trash can turned up but the folders I had open were so far off screen I could not drag them back and had to look up how to get them back to middle of the screen. So all in all take your chances and make a restore point, have all windows closed if going to try this out. I will wait for another release.

OAKsider reviewed v14.12 on Dec 10, 2014

Up to 288 MB! Getting ridiculous, AMD. At least I haven't had any infuriating problems with Catalyst drivers or installs, though... lately.

some guy reviewed v14.9.2 Beta on Nov 2, 2014

206 megs for a driver ? lol to bloated !

CyberDoc999 reviewed v14.6 Beta on May 28, 2014

why all the talk of windoze 8 what about windows 7

some guy reviewed v14.2 Beta 1.3 on Feb 26, 2014

super you fixed the link !

some guy reviewed v14.1 Beta 1.6 on Feb 3, 2014

14.1 Beta 1.6
e’re sorry, but we were unable to complete your download. There could be several reasons for this:

You were linked to this download from a site outside of AMD.com

some guy reviewed v13.30 RC3 on Jan 14, 2014

where are the 13.30 beta drivers ? your link goes to a @#$%^ wrong page ! on the site it shows only 13.11 beta drivers ... seriously if you can't do something as simple as a hyper link I really don't have a hole lot of faith as a driver provider!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.comedycentral...Canada-on-Strike--2.jpg

KAK reviewed v13.12 on Dec 20, 2013

The v13.12 Driver doesn't fix the AMD High Defination Audio Device
i have since Januar 2013 HDMi Sound drop-Out AMD still use old
BUGY v7.12.0.7717 AMD High Defination Audio Device.
Its a Joke that i BUY a ATi 7850 Card and AMD have not the capacity
to fix this known problem with the HDMi Sound drop-outs.

some guy reviewed v13.12 on Dec 19, 2013

242 megs ?? installs gaming eval app = bloat choose custom uncheck it
AMD Catalyst™ 13.11 Beta Driver for Windows®
dirrect link
http://support.amd.com/e...alyst-windows-beta.aspx

psycros reviewed v13.11 Beta 7 on Nov 1, 2013

Worse with every release since 13.4. Now a number of older but still popular games have major graphic issues. Have they never heard of GOG.COM??

OAKsider reviewed v13.6 Beta on May 29, 2013

Finally hit a big problem with AMD's (notorious) Catalyst drivers: It seems my display driver has not been getting updated (via these Catalyst Suites) since a few weeks after my fresh install of Windows 8 in 2012. I am still unable to update the driver through any of the newly released suites. Everything else is detected and able to be installed. (Manually updating graphics driver through Device Manager does work, at least.)

No, I never used and driver cleaners and always simply installed the suite on top of the old one and let it do the maintenance, the proper procedure via AMD.

Check to see if your graphics driver has actually been getting updated with these suites, too. It's a bit of a sneaky problem. Who would expect the *main* driver to not be installed, especially after years of problem-free Catalyst installs.

PhredV reviewed v13.5 Beta 2 on Apr 25, 2013

Never respond to Bruno who is an idiot and has worn out his welcome lonfg ago .... Love AMD Video cards... and have always found the updatwed drivrs to be good ....

herbs reviewed v13.1 on Feb 24, 2013

Use AMD graphics board HD 4570 IN A Dell Studio 1555.
Loaded CCC 13.1 with legacy driver 8.97.100.7-12111 as a custom installation.
All color and performance factors are excellent. Not a gamer...watch sports with Hauppauge HVR 850.

bruno. reviewed v13.1 on Jan 20, 2013

Now its even says for Windows 13.1. I couldnt care less about Windows 12.8 ( i have Windows 7 which is the best). Wheres the catalyst drivers for windows 7???

4122 reviewed v12.8 on Aug 16, 2012

Bruno, 12.8 is the Catalyst version number and *NOT* a Windows version number.

These drivers are legit & can be downloaded from AMD's web site if you think they aren't real.

johnk119 reviewed v12.7 Beta on Jul 20, 2012

Works well for me... A bit slow opening though... And my comp isn't slow. I'm using an ssd with an i7920 @ 3.3 Ghz and 12 GB of ram HD radeon 6870 overclocked

Ryusennin reviewed v12.7 Beta on Jul 1, 2012

12.6/12.7 are not available for HD 2000, 3000 and 4000 series. @CatalystMaker says they will be released in late July.

metin67 reviewed v12.7 Beta on Jun 30, 2012

AMD Catalyst™ 12.4b Hotfix Driver ..when i want to download win7 32bit hd3450 drivers it shows this..

johnk119 reviewed v12.6 Beta on Jun 24, 2012

I've only had a problem with the drivers on time and it was a pre-release driver.. Anyway this set works fine on my i7 with an HD Radeon 6870. I notice no difference to be honest, but I'm sure various background optimizations have been made with various games and such. I'd like to see more detailed instructions and more optimization of the main interface and it's loading time.

Aegis69 reviewed v12.6 Beta on Jun 4, 2012

Upgraded to 12.04, version on catalyst still says 11.10, what gives?

ajhansen reviewed v12.4 on Apr 28, 2012

As a software developer I must disagreed with the previous reviewer.

It might be true that one could fix yourself. When that is said, you must realize that every system is different, maybe not in hardware but always in configuration.

Further it is the driver developer's responsibility to do a proper purging of the old driver since they have to assume that some might be end users and experienced users just chose another hardware supplier if the current can't live up to his/hers demands.

For example, I have a HP dv7-6055eo laptop which runs with dual graphics HD6000/Radeon 6770M and I have never experienced so many issues with a GFX driver. Either it screws up when changing graphics card or it messes up texture models in various games.

My other laptop runs a nVidia GTX570M whose driver runs perfectly in any game. nVidia has in my many years of experience a far better developer department OR it has far better testing procedures.

I find it extremely ignorant that some people think that software is "perfect" or that it is the end user who is the first issue.

It is the software developers responsibility to do the proper testing before they ship. Of course nobody is perfect, but the developer must make the procedures for reporting errors clear. Sites like AMD's has a tendency to be very confusing for most users.

I urge AMD to improve their testing procedures and user bug reporting site locations clear for users.

AmpFeare reviewed v12.4 on Apr 28, 2012

for all you people saying there's issues with drivers im sorry to hear your troubles. honestly though its problem your own problem, learn how to uninstall the drivers properly.im running 12.4 now on an hd 5770 and am running modern warfare 3 max setting (AA off) league of legends maxed (AA on) skyrim on max with the high res texture pack with (shadows and aa off) not to mention countless others ive ran max settings with this card. rage bulletstorm crysis 1 the new duke nukem mass effect 3 dead space 1 and 2. the list goes on.

OmAleY reviewed v12.4 on Apr 27, 2012

@AmpFeare

I installed the drivers on a fresh Windows 7 install. No other driver was installed, except the one which came with Windows, default.

They may work with your card, but not with mine. Yes it's my problem, and because of that, I think AMD has left much to wish for.

The drivers should work, if they're advertised to work.

AMD could go far, if they would invest more money and time, in their GPU drivers.

Right now, the performance is just plain bad.

I use a Mobility Radeon HD 4570, to play CSS on my laptop.

When i "upgraded" to these drivers, there was errors in the models, and some corruption of the surroundings.

Reverted back to 12.3, and everything is fine.

AMD. please do a proper quality control of the drivers, before your release them. Thaanks.

baki_princ reviewed v12.2 on Mar 8, 2012

BSOD :(

XXXXXXX reviewed v11.12 on Dec 14, 2011

AMD Releases Catalyst 12.1 Preview:
The AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview includes all of the features found in AMD Catalyst™ 11.12 and also includes all of the latest optimizations found in the AMD Catalyst 11.11c performance drivers (AMD Catalyst 11.12 does not include the latest 11.11c optimizations). It is highly recommended that all gamers use the AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview driver.

http://support.amd.com/u...st121Previewdriver.aspx

meatu reviewed v11.11 on Nov 16, 2011

worked great 64 win 7

Aegis69 reviewed v11.11 on Nov 15, 2011

Whats the odds of OpenCL 1.1 ever coming out for the 4xxx series cards?

djb247365 reviewed v11.8 on Aug 17, 2011

My system currently runs on the HD5670 card and everything's just fine after updating to the latest driver. I never have a problem with the driver. It's usually the software I have a problem with, considering it has a tendency to stop loading sometimes, which makes it tough to access the settings when I need to change them. Otherwise, I'm satisfied and so far, so good. Hopefully it stays that way.

Sunstar reviewed v11.7 on Jul 28, 2011

Works great for me, seems to be a problem with the C++ installation and that part of it crashes. I was concerned at first, but decided to just let it slide and see what happens. They worked great that's what happened.
I can't understand all of these people having issues. I install every fresh set on both my systems and never have any of these issues.
You know what they say in the tech business right? 99% of all computer problems are user related. So stop blaming ATI and learn how to install drivers.
lost a star for the C++ issue.

smarterthanyou reviewed v11.7 on Jul 28, 2011

Won't work on my laptop. It's not HP's fault because they fully support installing stock AMD graphics drivers on their Core i5-based Pavilion dm4 laptops. It's AMD's fault because they STILL don't support laptops with switchable graphics. AMD really needs to fix this.

Cyber106 reviewed v11.6 on Jul 10, 2011

If you have any XP issues installing ATI drivers the best version to try is 10.6. Trying every version between 10.7 and 11.1 they all caused problems in there own way. If you're running XP they haven't built a video card for years so I would settle with 10.6.

DakotaSunRunner reviewed v11.6 on Jun 15, 2011

Similar problems as Elf, creates somewhat of a mess, uninstalled it completely and also reinstalled 11.4 with no problem. 11.6 is not right, I would stay clear of it if I were you unless you wish a two hour fix it job like I had.

Windows 7 x64 OS

LakotaElf reviewed v11.6 on Jun 15, 2011

I uninstalled the old, installed the new, error after error, so I cleaned it out, uninstalled it, then reinstalled it and same thing, evenr cleaned out registry etc. This softrware has issues especailly on my machine, windows 7 X64 AMD Phenom II 2.93 ghz processor, 6 gig of ram, ati radeon HD 5450. Windows would not start correctly after installing, said it recoverded over critical error. I uninstalled it complete, including old directories and registry and reinstalled 11.4 and had no problems at all, installed correctly, back to normal. Have no idea what is wrong with 11.6 but in my estimation, someone does not know what they are doing. I have used ati for years and been a computer tech for as many and this is getting to be rather junky.

If you have windows 7 x64 beware....it may or may not do this on your machines. Problem is, the system told me there was a error and critical, but not where, very helpful you know... I think I would stay clear of version 11.6 if you wish to remain sane for any length of time :) In fact I am thinking of staying clear of ATI for the next few versions or go to another graphix card entirely.

I rate that is -1

CyberDoc999 reviewed v11.6 on Jun 15, 2011

who is making these drivers?
they need to hire someone else
I had to re-format after installing this junk

DudeBoyz reviewed v11.6 on Jun 15, 2011

NOTE - I installed these OVER an existing 11.5a installation - I did not uninstall and then do a clean install.

Back on track. No visual quirks in DX9 mode with Civ 5 menus. Performs well with Dirt 2 in DX11. Windows 7 64 bit. Still having those other issues, but they are improved from 11.5 and 11.5a hotfix.

DudeBoyz reviewed v11.5 on May 10, 2011

These have a few hiccups. In fact, I just saw that they came out with 11.5a HOTFIX version to handle things that this driver goofed on and lacked.

So, if I was you, I'd skip 11.5 and wait for 11.6 and hope they don't need hotfixes for that one too.

11.4 is working ok so far, so at least there is that to use until they get this figured.

ChipChop reviewed v11.5 on May 10, 2011

lol, after years of investigation, they still haven't found their issue with the mouse cursor.

borisf98 reviewed v11.5 on May 9, 2011

Not under any circumstances update to this version of Catalyst. It will disable video in your browser.

JamesSmith2 reviewed v11.4 on May 1, 2011

The drivers work fine. Some people have had a problem with prior version, but there's a workaround. The problem has to do with installing the AMD Catalyst Drivers before you install the Windows Update Catalyst Driver. If you attempt to install the AMD Catalyst Drivers first, the installer will end with "Failed to Detect Hardware". They should really make the procedure clearer.

DudeBoyz reviewed v11.4 on Apr 29, 2011

More stable in Civilization V under Windows 7 64 bit than Nvidia has been but I'm frustrated by two things so far.

If I run DX9 games, they adhere to the "centered" LCD Scaling deal, so if I run 1280x960 on my 1600x1200 screen, it shows in actual 1280x960 resolution with black space on all 4 sides of the screen.

But, if I run DX11 games, they stretch edge to edge regardless of the setting in the driver.

With DX9 games, I can ALT-TAB to the desktop no problem but with DX11 games, it won't do it properly.

Any ideas as to why?

I'm still going through the drivers in terms of testing and will post any follow-ups as they are warranted.

GadgetPig reviewed v11.4 on Apr 29, 2011

Working fine for me on Windows7 32bit/AMD E-350 Fusion cpu/gpu based laptop. IIRC, you also need .NET 3.5 or higher for the driver to install.

Those of you wanting a more corporate or "bare-bones" driver; After you choose the proper video card on the website, click the second tab "individual downloads" and choose (driver only).

To access 3D settings with this bare-bones driver, you can use "ATI tray tools". YMMV of course:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Tray_Tools

xsnred reviewed v11.4 on Apr 28, 2011

Using 64 bit on Windows 7. Not a whimper of a problem. To Paul Williams: Pretty unfair to call AMD stupid when it's probably something stupid wrong with your pc if your missing a file. Always easy to blame the developer isn't it? Why do I not have any problems with any of these new drivers? Am I doing something wrong?

craigun reviewed v11.4 on Apr 27, 2011

Using 64bit version. No issues as of yet.

Mr Swiffer reviewed v11.4 Early Preview on Mar 30, 2011

Not compatible with Intel CPU laptops that have switchable graphics and it's all AMD's fault.

PaulWilliams reviewed v11.1 on Feb 4, 2011

Crashed my computer when installing on Windows 7 64-bit. I looked over the .inf files and found that the install directory is missing difxapi.dll. No problem after I copied the file from the Bin64 folder into Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\B111431. Not the first time I've had trouble with AMD's poorly written software. Stupid AMD.

unger71 reviewed v11.1 on Jan 27, 2011

vista 32 bit and xp home 32 bit

pjb reviewed v11.1 on Jan 27, 2011

It works ok, no problems here. Using the *64 version.
Not crashed etc. Can't see any thing wrong with it.
File size has become bigger over the versions, but then when you consider hard drives have also become bigger, it's not such a big issue. :)

Juhandra reviewed v11.1 on Jan 27, 2011

People should download this one, it will reveal the mistery of Nostradamus !!!!

Thoriumboy reviewed v10.12 on Dec 30, 2010

Rubbish, like so many ATI driver sets before it, it has issues. I've very temped to go with Gforce because it is beginning to really bother me. I had the Catalyst Control Centre recently "gut" itself, only a shell with no options was left. I found this out after support for my second monitor "disappeared." I figured it was my 9.3 drivers so I upgrade to the latest "legacy" pack from AMD and this is what I got on reboot:

http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/131483246

I'm basically past the point where I can spend hours trouble-shooting a box.

LakotaElf reviewed v10.12 on Dec 14, 2010

Excellent software, installed without a hitch. No problems at all and I use windows 7 X64. I did read, not sure if it was on ATI/AMD network or another place that the new CCC will not work on XP. Those using XP need to get serious now and update to a newer OS. Software makers will not continue to support XP forever, you all know this when you buy a OS it has its limits, get over it. If you do not know what your doing, seek help, there is no shame in it, that is what I did to gain knowledge and I also went back to college to learn computers at age 49 and I am not over 60 now.. But to place here that software is junk when you have no idea what your doing, is silly.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v10.12 on Dec 14, 2010

great driver

note to psycros
you do not know what you are doing
seek an education
all you need is to un-zip the drivers and point windows to the ATI folder
also win 7 64 is the best OS to date
XP 64 is the POS.

psycros reviewed v10.11 on Dec 7, 2010

STILL utter rubbish 64-bit OS. STILL demands you install some of their marketing garbage before it will install the driver..and then STILL fails to actually do so!!! It might be coincidence but I've had nothing but problems from Radeon drivers since AMD actively took control. Catalyst pretends to install driver 100% of the time on XP-64, 50% of time on Vista 64. Installs properly on Win7 64 but performance is bad (like everything else on that POS).

johnk119 reviewed v10.11 on Nov 29, 2010

these drivers have only mildly improved and are bloated... but what I can do???

CobraPL reviewed v10.11 on Nov 23, 2010

HD4850 + WinXP or Win7 + always latest drivers - no problems ever.

Pkshadow reviewed v10.11 on Nov 21, 2010

1st time in along time have had to uninstall as package was buggy on a ati 5870.
Was jerky lines appearing while open/closing folders or tabs in Firefox.
Reinstalled 10.10 and card behaving properly again.
Guess will see what next month brings..............

FatBastard reviewed v10.11 on Nov 18, 2010

This version of Catalyst is buggy. Made my PC crash :(

Steve1209 reviewed v10.11 on Nov 17, 2010

Older Graphic card users please note this, there is no support even though this looks like it's an update to your card, read this

http://support.amd.com/u...1.3.13&lang=English

TGB72 reviewed v10.9 on Sep 18, 2010

h.264 playback for sd movies still broken in v10.9, the development team should be replaced.

man friday reviewed v10.9 on Sep 16, 2010

installed on W7Ux64. Reboot, NO USB

thartist reviewed v10.9 on Sep 16, 2010

Betanews' link doesn't "link to 10.8" nor sh1t!!
It links to AMD's drivers site and THAT is what still isn't updated!

craigun reviewed v10.9 on Sep 15, 2010

Still links to 10.8 as of: 9/15/10 at 8:15pm CST.

Cage22 reviewed v10.9 on Sep 15, 2010

10.9 link to download brings you to 10.8 as of 09/15/10 1:15 pm EST.

TGB72 reviewed v10.8 on Sep 13, 2010

DXVA for SD (-720p) x264 files is broken since v10.2, it's just unacceptable, really a shame that such a nice hardware comes with this crapy drivers.

thartist reviewed v10.8 on Aug 25, 2010

I've had my first ATI since february, a 5750. Never a single issue. 5/5

(however the CCC is such a fvcking drag, but at least works fine and it's been anticipated that AMD will have a redone control center for when ATI disappears next year)

Lee Wilkerson reviewed v10.7 on Jul 28, 2010

First, the download link takes you to version 10.2 unless you're using some version of Winduhs that I'm not.
Second, I've installed this driver version on three different XP machines with the same result: the installation does not terminate properly i.e. each time the computer is rebooted, Explorer opens c:\Program Files\ATI.
The video on-screen is better than the older versions, but what a pain in the a**.
I've had a long-time aversion to using ATI hardware, and they have still done very little to change my mind even if they have joined up with AMD. In my mind AMD just took a step down.

Ryusennin reviewed v10.7 on Jul 27, 2010

@Sunstar

Strange. I also know many noobs claiming they repair computers for a living and who don't know jack about what they're saying. It works for you, that's great -- I still pretend you're not a power user, and that's not an insult. You just have very basic computer needs.

Sunstar reviewed v10.7 on Jul 27, 2010

@Ryusennin
Not at all. I do consider myself an extreme power user. Hence me wanting my system to be stable.
I can't say I've NEVER had issues, sure I have...but they can always be traced back to something within my system, or a bug within other software conflicting.
There are way too many configurations out there for everything to work 100% everytime. I just don't generally have any issues, and again any issue I do have I can usually solve with a slight bit of effort.
I also repair computers and know that 90% of computer users (even those who claim to know about computers) have no freaking idea wtf they are doing and blame everyone else when they have issues.

roj reviewed v10.6 on Jun 18, 2010

@Ryusennin:

I'm with Sunstar. You have twists who don't uninstall drivers first, whine aobut .NET, complain about drivers when the problem lies with azzwipe game developers and on and on and on...

No issues with any of the three machines in the house running mid to high end ATI cards. We do everything from video editing to HT playback to games.

FIVE stars.

Ryusennin reviewed v10.6 on Jun 17, 2010

@Sunstar

I sense from your patronizing tone that you're one of those people who never have any ATI driver issue because you actually never use your computer like power users do. Which is fine -- just don't assume everybody is all wet behind the ears on this forum.

unger71 reviewed v10.6 on Jun 17, 2010

hej nilst2006. try to set your soundcard to basic or none acceleration in dxdiag or disable your soundcard or buy a new usb. I think it's a xp problem with pci and pciexpress. and try to set your virtuel memory higher.

Firenze reviewed v10.5 on May 28, 2010

Now they managed to even break DXVA......

Good going AMD, fix 1 thing and break 10 others.

xsnred reviewed v10.5 on May 27, 2010

I agree with sunstar one million percent. If you are having trouble with ATI drivers, you should research WHY you are having problems. There is just too much info and sites and forums to hold your hand if you don't know what you are doing. Don't blame ATI/AMD, that's a cop out. I have used ATI drivers forever, and before forever, I used Nvidia drivers. I have never ever had a problem, and if I did, I would have gotten some help to resolve MY problem. I realize that there will be some absolute conflicts with some drivers and your computer, but do something about it instead of bashing the manufacturer. ATI/AMD and Nvidea have your interest in mind.

LakotaElf reviewed v10.5 on May 27, 2010

Excellent, went to their web site, got the correct updated drivers for my laptop and all went just fine, never have any problems with ATI. They work well without a hitch.

Sunstar reviewed v10.5 on May 27, 2010

Works good. ATI's drivers have come a long way over the years. Its just too bad people's ability to have a stable computer hasn't changed.
The only people I see having issues are those that don't know how to properly use their computer and blame everyone else when it screws up. Those of us who run a stable system to begin with have nothing but good news when ATI releases new drivers. Less bugs, faster speed EVERY release since 9.11.
Learn how to config your computers guys and maybe you shouldn't rate software till you can.

nilst2006 reviewed v10.5 on May 26, 2010

ATI drivers are almost never good. Haven't been ever what i can remember. I have to run old optimized drivers else i get BSOD with an error about NON_PAGED_MEMORY something. It took me some months to find out what exactly made XP SP3 to crash ! I really don't understand why AMD and ATI can't make drivers that work with the hardware it is said to work with.... I will stop buy ATI hardware anymore ! Sorry guys, i have lost all my faith in You !

Ryusennin reviewed v10.3 on Mar 26, 2010

Am I the only one to have lost support for native resolutions (320x200, 640x400) since Cat 9.12?

jerryb reviewed v10.2 on Feb 25, 2010

I have been using Catalyst 10.2 for about a week now. I am getting an increase in performance from the new driver and system lock ups seem to have disappeared with the new driver. However, a couple of new glitches have also appeared with 10.2. On rare occasions, I get a gray screen while playing WOW. I have been able to CTRL ALT DEL and kill WOW to recover. This is definitely a Catalyst problem since it appeared only after the install of 10.2. One other problem has also appeared with 10.2. Unfortunately, this is much more common. While playing WOW, I sometimes get large polygons or differing colors covering the background and occasionally the character also. Moving the character (difficult when you can't see) eventually resolves the issue for an hour or so.

AzureSky reviewed v10.2 on Feb 18, 2010

myboy: ccc isnt the greatest but its far better then it was when it first came out, its tray icon woks alot like ATI Tray Tools now at least.

one tip: always uninstall and driver sweeper between ati driver sets, it avoids alot of issues

myboy reviewed v10.2 on Feb 18, 2010

The drivers may or may not be OK but recently buying a 5870 made me install control centre for the first time in a long time and I see it is still the same ugly bloated irrational pile of poo it always was. When will they realise the turd they have been polishing for years is still a turd?

Slipped it in reviewed v10.2 on Feb 18, 2010

Catalyst version 10.2 fixes a major bug that was in version 10.1. Catalyst version 10.1 broke HDCP support. When playing Blu-Ray discs PowerDVD 9 Ultra insisted my HDMI video connection was not HDCP compliant even though both my Denon AVR-788 receiver and Gateway FHD2400 monitor are 100% HDCP compliant. This is finally fixed in version 10.2. Another bug in Catalyst 10.1 that caused intermittent black screens during DVD playback has also been fixed.

I guess the lazy morons at AMD finally learned that they need to perform in house beta testing of their drivers before they release them to the public.

TC17 reviewed v10.2 on Feb 17, 2010

Don't you just love Nvidia fanboys who do whatever they can to trash ATI. I've had very few problems with ATI drivers. Nvidia has plenty of their own buggy drivers.

chronnick reviewed v10.2 on Feb 17, 2010

Seriously, Ryan, calm down. Smoke some pot. The issue you are experiencing is the fault of Windows, not the video card. But they could make the driver install window smaller, this is true.

kevinmook reviewed v10.1 on Feb 6, 2010

I have the opposite problem of cage22 - Mine won't wake up after being put to sleep. I have to disconnect the DVI cable and reconnect it. Just started after installing the 10.1 drivers. On a Sapphire 1GB 4890 card.

Cage22 reviewed v10.1 on Jan 28, 2010

Monitor won't go to sleep.
10.1 driver only on Win 7 32bit. Driver loads fine for HP 2509m monitor w/XFX 5750 vid card over HDMI. Finally no over/underscan problem, but...
Monitor won't go to sleep. Goes fairly dark, but never power off like it did with previous versions.

hugh750 reviewed v10.1 on Jan 28, 2010

Works fine on my radeon 4670 1 gig.

The MAZZTer reviewed v10.1 on Jan 27, 2010

Installer dereferences a null pointer and silently crashes. Had to root around for a log file before I figured out why.

cousinkix1953 reviewed v9.12 on Dec 19, 2009

Your page is a mess! Get rid of these other frigging download links and maybe I can find the right one for those ATI Catalyst drivers.

purush reviewed v9.11 on Nov 17, 2009

Just installed version 9.11. works fine, a lot of improvements over the previous ones. Thank you guys at the ATI for a great job. For the first time my sharp LCD 1080p shows the correct screen resolution. Graphics also look great.

Peter

craigun reviewed v9.8 on Aug 27, 2009

No problems here. Install was flawless.

greenarrow1 reviewed v9.8 on Aug 19, 2009

When installing ATI drivers and other programs you must uninstall the previous version or you will run into all sorts of problems. If you do not you are one of the lucky ones to have the install run smooth specially with older type ATI video cards.

Vimes reviewed v9.8 on Aug 18, 2009

Had to revert back to the 9.7's as there is huge graphical corruption n Anno1404. I still do not like the new look CCC.

pjb reviewed v9.8 on Aug 18, 2009

Works flawlessly for me on Window 7 (6.1.7600) *64 Ultimate
May be seem a bit bloated and the install file has got a bit larger in size,
however the software works really well for me.

tp reviewed v9.7 on Jul 30, 2009

a load of crap. not installing on V64... was the same thing with 9.6 and had to go back to 9.3...

Phat Esther reviewed v9.7 on Jul 24, 2009

Just crash and restart w7, must remove and restore system point, maybe fake driver or virus. ATI making this driver? Windows download own driver from microsoft.com that working perfect 5 *****
No more install again ant bulsit ATI driver, never.

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v9.7 on Jul 24, 2009

No problem upgrading from 9.6 in Vista x64. It works, though I had no particular problems before, so I can't say if this solves anything.

FreeSpeech reviewed v9.7 on Jul 24, 2009

Installed right on top of 9.6 without uninstalling. Perfect install! No need to even reboot. Gotta love that!

Stay away from driversweeper. Not needed with ATI.

LRN reviewed v9.7 on Jul 24, 2009

Still big and ugly...But they work.

P.S. People, read the discussion section for ATI Catalyst Drivers on BetaNews ( http://fileforum.betanew...P/1058330408/1#talkback )! There's a tip for all of you x300-x1300 owners.

Steve1209 reviewed v9.7 on Jul 23, 2009

Version 9.7 failed as did each of it's previous versions, WTF is going on?????

Steve1209 reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

This problem has been the same for Ver 9.4, 9.5 & 9.6 *IF* I was the only person experiencing the problem, I'd say it was my XP PRO 32 bit machine with a RAEDON X300 card, I'm not the only one with the problem...

LakotaElf reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

Installed without a hitch, works perfectly with no problems at this time. Funny how others have had all manner of problems and I have never had one. Guess I am lucky, but then, I do not want any problems either. To me, these drivers are fine...

TC17 reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

Works fine for me.

borisf98 reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

It seems that "these developers" listened to my criticism. I was actually been able to install 9.6 drivers with only two "error" screens. Thanks dudes.

Ryusennin reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

Still truckloads of OpenGL bugs in this release.

Last build with decent OGL support is 8.11.

cyberia reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

Hey, maybe they're a little faster, but so far, no problems....

That's right, NO problems on a new OS (Win7). Rather exceptional, in my experience.

tbresson reviewed v9.6 on Jun 15, 2009

I know the version text on the AMD site says 9.5, but the file on the site actually points to a 9.6 version file, see:

https://a248.e.akamai.ne...7_32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe

jvs reviewed v9.5 on May 18, 2009

There are no 9.5 drivers available on AMD's website for Vista or Windows 7. Betanews downloads are for 32bit only. Where is the link for 64bit?

mflip reviewed v9.5 on May 18, 2009

There are no 9.5 drivers available on AMD's website for Vista or Windows 7. The latest ones posted are 9.4 drivers. Not sure where Betanews got their information from.

craigun reviewed v9.5 on May 18, 2009

It won't install. I had the same problem with 9.4 so I'm just gonna keep 9.3

borisf98 reviewed v9.4 on Apr 11, 2009

9.4 version has even more installation errors than ever before. What is wrong with these developers. Don't they test their software at all?

Somnambulator reviewed v9.4 on Apr 11, 2009

doesnt install right under W7 7068. driver doesnt get registered and CCC never loads. using 9.3 for now

donce reviewed v9.3 on Mar 24, 2009

Totally crap on my 2600XT PCI-E. Win Xp 64 crashes with BSOD on boot. Tried everything but returning to 8.11 solved problems. Waiting for better drivers.

Somnambulator reviewed v9.3 on Mar 19, 2009

Patch notes, and filename, say this is the 1st AOI driver release for Vista/7. This driver runs on Vista and Windows 7. there are no separate installers anymore. the filename is like Catalyst blah blah Vista_w7.exe or something

pr1xsel reviewed v9.3 on Mar 19, 2009

Vista driver and Windows 7 driver are same size so probably are identical
If you use Radeon HD 3000 or HD 4000 series then this driver will give performance boost + latest leaked version of Win7 is build 7057 if ya need more speed boost in games and graphical programs then download both!!

johnk119 reviewed v9.3 on Mar 18, 2009

sometimes I wonder if these updates do anything... What do you all think? Are there any major differences in coding? Can anyone analyze these file to see?

RoSmecher reviewed v9.2 on Mar 5, 2009

works well, HOWEVER i have an ATI Radeon 4850 and PES 2009 does not work lags and jitters while it used to work on my NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS..
I blame both the developer Konami (cuz i know their game is buggy as a mofo). But also I hope newer drivers fix these issues.

VinceV reviewed v9.2 on Feb 23, 2009

I'd give these a 0 if possible.

They still haven't fixed the Catalyst intaller. It breaks fails to install the control center with what appears to be a framework error. This issue has existed since version 8.1

They have not fixed the driver restart error nor have the fixed the system freeze error.

Somnambulator reviewed v9.2 on Feb 22, 2009

9.2's are a huge improvement over 8.11 and 9.1

kommando reviewed v9.2 on Feb 22, 2009

Works fine.

pjb reviewed v9.1 on Jan 30, 2009

Good Drivers..
Although Windows 7 - Automatically installed the pre-release WDDM 1.1drivers, here is a link to the drivers page for those interested:
http://support.ati.com/i...ge&questionID=39069

DaMiEn™ reviewed v9.1 on Jan 29, 2009

Here is a link to the 64-bit drivers. http://game.amd.com/us-e...=vista64/common-vista64
Cheers.

CobraPL reviewed v9.1 on Jan 29, 2009

Works w/o any problems.

burfadel reviewed v9.1 on Jan 29, 2009

Why do Nvidia fans (aka anti-ATI fans) even bother whinging and complaining about Catalyst and calling everything with ATI in the brand name crap? Nvidia are far from perfect, some people say they're the big Blue giant instead of the big Green giant due to the number of BSODs that occur on their system from the Nvidia driver file. Not to mention the issues associated with the Geforce 9 series (and 8 series mobile chips).

These work fine for me, I hope they work fine for you. Keep reviews HONEST. Dissing ATI or any other company and their products - especially products that are valid like ATI's, just shows you need to do that in order to make the product you support look better than it really is and to make it actually look better than the item you are dissing.

JCookes reviewed v9.1 on Jan 29, 2009

Crap, Crappier, Catalyst.

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v9.1 on Jan 29, 2009

This installed properly on my Vista x64 machine (Radeon 3450), which is more than I can say for the last version (8.12), and it runs fine for me, though I don't do 3D games. But I was a little disappointed that the Avivo video converter still doesn't use the GPU hardware for transcoding videos under x64. Maybe next time.

Morningdove reviewed v9.1 on Jan 29, 2009

I have an All-In-Wonder card. Following the ATI instructions explicitly, I have never successfully installed the updates/upgrades. The TV doesn't initialize after installation.

On the other hand, installing from the provided CD is almost an automatic operation and is always successfull. Problem is, the CD is an old, old version.

The CD installation proves the All-In-Wonder download installation does not have to be that complex.

kommando reviewed v8.12 on Dec 11, 2008

Working fine for me.

keiichi999 reviewed v8.12 on Dec 10, 2008

Aegis69, try DNA ATI drivers, they works flawless.

GoraKX reviewed v8.12 on Dec 10, 2008

worked fine for me. went from 8.11 driver only to 8.12 driver only on Vista x64, no problems and no reboot required. Much like previous installations.

Aegis69 reviewed v8.12 on Dec 10, 2008

Crappy, ATI always breaks all my games when I put new drivers on.

Is omegadrivers.net done updating? I'd like to see what he could do with the 8.xx ATI drivers, his builds were always reliable and removed the fluff/crap.

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v8.12 on Dec 10, 2008

To amend my earlier review, I think the Asus cards prefer the drivers on the Asus website. I could upgrade to their version OK (but still not up to 8.12).

patlange reviewed v8.11 on Nov 16, 2008

Have the 64-bit drivers been withdrawn? The link here leads to the 32-bit drivers and the mirror link leads (ultimately) to http://ati.amd.com/403.html (access denied).

Doubledoom reviewed v8.11 on Nov 14, 2008

Like many others I have suffered the dreaded x64 blue death of screen for the first time with these. A bit of searching around indicates that this is a common problem with the x64 drivers. So,those saying there is no x64 problem as they are fine are not actually correct. It seems to hit those using crossfire and dual monitors mostly. Single card, single monitor users dont seem to have the problem.

purush reviewed v8.11 on Nov 13, 2008

Please note that 8 is the version No. whereas 11 refers to the month in which the driver was released. ATI consistently updates the drivers for better performance.

oomingmak reviewed v8.11 on Nov 13, 2008

ATI deliberately prevented these drivers from working on Windows 2000 (even though they are compatible).

jds86930 reviewed v8.11 on Nov 13, 2008

Working good. Since these drivers come out on a monthly schedule, the naming scheme is year.month - so 8.1 and 8.10 aren't the same.

TC17 reviewed v8.10 on Oct 16, 2008

Like some others here have said, the Vista x64 drivers work just fine. Anyone saying anything else is either lieing or don't know what they are doing. I've never once had a blue screen under Vista.

Although this latest driver should not be named 8.10, as its the same number as 8.1 which they already had.

Either name it 9.0 or 8.91 or something, not 8.10.

viperiii reviewed v8.9 on Sep 18, 2008

Version 8.9 promises a smoother detail video playback on VISTA x86 ATI RADEON 2000 series..
Good Works, AMD, keep it up!!
I recommend u all to download it and give it a trial!

tp reviewed v8.9 on Sep 18, 2008

things went smooth with this 'upgrade'... no headache, no complaints.. (vista64)

mjm01010101 reviewed v8.9 on Sep 17, 2008

The description for this display driver is getting a tad dated.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v8.8 on Aug 25, 2008

I like ATI but if you are building a media server
and you want a perfect picture .... I had to switch to Nvidia.
I tried every driver and 4 different high end ATI cards.... ATI gave me lots of artifacts... Nvidia gives me none!

jbird37 reviewed v8.8 on Aug 21, 2008

My system:
Core 2 Duo 2.66 Ghz
4Gb DDR2 PC-5300 (667 mhz)
Radeon HD3870 512Mb GDDR4
Gigabyte GP35-DS3R

Vista 64-bit version gave me a BSOD. This is the 1st time I have ever had an issue with any version of Catalyst drivers.

Fnatte79 reviewed v8.8 on Aug 21, 2008

Works like a charm on Vista 64-bit!

pjb reviewed v8.8 on Aug 21, 2008

I totally disagree with 'roj', I have not had any issues with the 64 bit drivers. The drivers work really well for me, as does this update 8.8

roj reviewed v8.7 on Aug 13, 2008

The Vista64 version of these drivers are pure and utter s***E.

ONE star - should be ZERO.

photonboy reviewed v8.7 on Jul 22, 2008

I've tested Catalyst 8.7 Beta for a little while now across a LARGE selection of modern games (including Half-Life 2, Call of Duty 2 and COD4, Spellforce 2...) about 30 in all.

No issues detected.

My system:

Asus A8N-SLI Premium (NForce 4)
AMD Athlon X2 4800+ (overclocked)
2GB DDR3200 (400MHz)
Gigabyte RX 3870 (HD3870 512MB)

*Note: Lots of games run great but I still find NWN2 and Gothic 3 run poorly on my system due to poor coding. Ironically NWN2 came with my video card. Thanks Gigabyte.

**Sorry. This was for XP, not Vista. If you think you are having any performance or stuttering issues, I highly recommend using RUN->"msconfig", "Diagnostic Startup" then benchmark with the 3DMark series and compare to normal benchmarks. Also run the games you think you might have issue with.

There seems to be certain software that can cause stuttering or poor performance and this helps troubleshoot. If things run great (except maybe sound) in Diagnostic Startup then start enable software using "msconfig" (enable 50%, if no problems, enable 50% of remainder... called the "half split method" of troubleshooting").

legion reviewed v8.7 on Jul 22, 2008

Works fine to me :) Better performance (ATI Tray Tools test) then 8.6 version.

BoNeLeSS reviewed v8.6 on Jun 19, 2008

Very stable and some actual performance improvements in this release in OpenGL

legion reviewed v8.6 on Jun 19, 2008

Display Driver 8.6 + ATI Tray Tools 1.3.6.1042 works without problems :) Sapphire Radeon 1950GT Windows XP SP3.

legion reviewed v8.5 on May 22, 2008

No problem after install (X1950 GT, WXP SP3). I dont use CCC, ATI Tray Tools works excellent with this version of ATI drivers.

roj reviewed v8.4 on May 1, 2008

The first drivers from ATI in a long time that didn't hang on reboot after install. No more silly Steam crap either.

FOUR stars - I'd give FIVE but it's too early to tell.

coch reviewed v8.3 on Mar 20, 2008

as always, I do not use ccc but rather Ati Tray tools. The 8.3 drivers seems to have fixed the dreaded BSOD in ati3duag.dll for me, after 6 days of testing (with all prior versions resulted in this crash whenever I changed a graphics setting). Performance seems a bit lower than 8.2 for me though, so I am giving it a 4.

yokozuna reviewed v8.3 on Mar 6, 2008

Yeah, this release has been definitely the best in last 12 months. Most problems described by me below disappeared, however, it still uses CCC crap. If you want the unofficial CP version of the driver go here: http://files.filefront.c...;9761852;/fileinfo.html

Pkshadow reviewed v8.3 on Mar 6, 2008

Have not had many problems with the drivers though the CCC is a diff matter.
With that said I will state that Reviewer: mjm01010101 has no right to review this program if is not running ATI and using the drivers.
There are other options for drivers mjm010101BS'er.
Seek and you shall find!
With that pairing a M/B and Vid Card is a nasty thing that can create problems but for all that do not know "it is the chipset" that is quality work and you can always run a older set of drivers in a profile or ...
So again mjm010101BS'er get with the program and do a review or keep out!
I do not review nVidia's drivers so hold your reports for us that need to know or better yet email AMD/ATI

jds86930 reviewed v8.3 on Mar 5, 2008

This particular release seems pretty good. Lots of bugs fixed (including the AGP one that has plagued me since 7.9) and no issues on my system so far.

mjm01010101 reviewed v8.3 on Mar 5, 2008

Just an FYI to ATI. In case this isn't clear enough: Your hardware is fairly decent, but myself and others have actually not purchased your hardware based solely on these drivers. I will continue to ignore ATI while sub-par software is released. Shame.

=TFM=Melvin reviewed v8.2 on Feb 29, 2008

The 5 problems I mentioned in my review of 8.1 are gone. Actually, the issue with Crossfire not working on 8.1 could have been that when I enabled Crossfire and saw the second display stayed active, I assume Crossfire wasn't really working. The support didn't catch this, but I think it is MultiView(tm) which was new to version 8.1. I ran some benchmarks and by performance measurements it looks like Crossfire is working well. THAT is a nice feature; I can now use my secondary monitor even when in Crossfire mode (and even when a game is running the second display is updated).

Here is what I sent ATI on my 5 problems:

1. All versions after 7.9 have had display corruption during Crossfire mode -- With 8.2 Crossfire is working. ISSUE RESOLVED.

2. 5x5 pixel White square with 1 pixel wide border in upper left corner of screen -- With 8.2 this no longer happens. ISSUE RESOLVED.

3. I have dual monitors and the Catalyst Control Panel shows them as DVI 3 and DVI 4. It had shown them as DVI 1 and 2 previously. -- This still happens but you said there seems to be no functional side effect to this, so no problem.

4. TV200 doesn't install (since 7.11) -- This is still a problem with 8.2. On another ticket ATI support said my manual install of the WDM drivers (using the C:\ATI\Support\... path) was valid, so no problem.

5. Windows Firewall not-active warning after install, even though it is active, (since 7.11). -- This happens with the installation of the TV200 drivers, (the WDM drivers). However, my workaround to re-boot seems to work, so no problem.

tp reviewed v8.2 on Feb 21, 2008

this is buggy crap! i wish i left well enough alone.. glad i still have some old drivers on can go back to..

Bobbitchin reviewed v8.2 on Feb 14, 2008

ATI has always been crap. Even way back in the Windows 3.1 days when we were dealing with the ATI font cache bug. Here is is over a decade later (almost TWO decades) and I have an ATI card (not by choice) and sure enough, it's crap.

Even in the newest video games there is a ton of work-a-rounds in release notes that say ATI users must jump through these hoops to get decent performance. The lase one was in TF2 I have to force it to run in DirectX 7 mode because ATI cards can not create the DirectX objects in Directx 9 or higher.

photonboy reviewed v8.2 on Feb 14, 2008

Release notes: https://a248.e.akamai.ne...t_82_release_notes.html

My comments:
1. I also get the stupid small, grey square in the upper left of my desktop. This really makes me question ATI's grip on their drivers.

2. Not technically drivers, but where is the Transcoding support?

I bought this card because the AMD/ATI site said it did transcoding. After the card arrived and it didn't I started doing some research and found out they've been offering this for several years. They currently have software only for a previous version of the card and even that is using the CPU as a placeholder for using the graphics cards hardware decoders.

3. I also have some stuttering in games that I didn't get before, even at the exact same settings with my older 6600GT 128MB NVidia card. I have to assume it's a driver issue. In fact, I can get stuttering even when my frame rates are over 50FPS. It's actually quite annoying. Is this some memory management/buffer issue?

Summary:
In general, I'm fairly happy with gaming performance and my HD-DVD decoded fine. NVidia has issues too. I'm really happy with the HD3870 idle power which is under half the 8800GT.

I think AMD/ATI needs to get their act together. They've got potential and try to look to the future (power management, first to DX10.1, opening hardware now to allow Linux drivers, Fusion etc.) however they need to deliver on the NOW.

My system:
AMD Athlon X2 4800+, 2GB DDR 3200, HD3870 512MB, Ultra 550W PSU, Windows MCE 2005 (SP3)

tickleonthetum reviewed v8.2 on Feb 14, 2008

Still no support for AGP cards (2600XT), won't even install.

peterj1978 reviewed v8.2 on Feb 14, 2008

They seem to have integrated the hotfix that was needed for me to be able to use the 8.1 driver on my AGP based system together with a X1950Pro card on a Nforce2 motherboard, now i just need the 8.2 driver and it works at once.

pjb reviewed v8.2 on Feb 13, 2008

Works well for me - also on Vista. Seems to fix a small glitch I have on the previous release.

gate1975mlm reviewed v8.2 on Feb 13, 2008

No problems here on Vista!

grizz86 reviewed v8.1 on Jan 22, 2008

still got low perfomance using google sketchup 6.

Gave 3 stars because the quality and the sharpness of the image is the best.

=TFM=Melvin reviewed v8.1 on Jan 22, 2008

In addition to the Crossfire problem I noted previously, here are some more things. But first to clear things out, I uninstall and clear according to the ATI Catalyst Tweak Guide, (including Registry cleaning)

1. TV200 doesn't install (since 7.11); get new hardware notice on re-boot, so I go down the C:\ATI\Support\... path to find the driver and install.

2. Windows Firewall not active warning after install, even though it is, (since 7.11). Must reboot to clear.

3. I have dual monitors and the Catalyst Control Panel shows them DVI 3 and DVI 4. It had shown them as DVI 1 and 2 previously.

4. 5x5 pixel White square with 1 pixel wide boarder in upper left corner of screen, (just on the primary monitor, not secondary output). My primary is a widescreen 1680x1050; the secondary is 1280x1024.

**EDIT** Jan 26, 2008
5. Whoops -- An addition. I finally tried Crossfire with 8.1 and it won't go into Crossfire. That is, both of my monitors keep displaying. I haven't measured framerate, but with Crossfire the second monitor on the card's dual DVI output should turn off.

QUESTION: What has happened to these guys? I've installed with a clean uninstall (regedit clears and all that); I've done all they say to do but still the problems. I guess my original problem with screen tearing during Crossfire is fixed; it doesn't happen anymore since it won't go into Crossfire mode. LOL **Changing rating down to 1**

Gormless reviewed v8.1 on Jan 17, 2008

My PC is screaming Nvidia at me as i type :-( Another kick in the AGP owners goolies.

peterj1978 reviewed v8.1 on Jan 17, 2008

I'll give these a 3 since for the first time since 7.7 i can upgrade my drivers for my X1950Pro AGP card running on a Abit AN7 Nforce2 motherboard, not without using their hotfix for Crysis and AGP though, but atleast it's working now.

Link to hotfix included here. (install 8.1 first then apply hotfix in case you are wondering)
http://support.ati.com/i...ge&questionID=31625

skapig reviewed v8.1 on Jan 16, 2008

8.1 and the prior version both do not seem to correctly detect my Theater 650 for an upgrade on Vista 32bit. This release went as far as to blue screen at the conclusion of a forced installation (consistantly for serveral trials).

To be fair the release 3 or 4 versions ago seemed to have haulted the major crashes that occured on occaision while watching TV.

Things had dramatically improved after AMD's purchase, but now it seems that quality control has taken a nose dive at ATI.

WeR4saken reviewed v8.1 on Jan 16, 2008

The AGP problem has a hotfix out for it. Get it here: http://support.ati.com/i...ge&questionID=31542

I'll give a higher rating when they integrate that fix into drivers.

Ryusennin reviewed v8.1 on Jan 16, 2008

Come on, ATI! You know AGP support is broken since Cat 7.8, and yet you dare release an AGP HD3850 with unusable drivers? What do you suggest the disillusioned consumer to do? Write his own drivers?

Ok... here's a tip that can be useful to VIA chipsets users: make sure you installed the latest Hyperion package (viaarena.com), it comes with a custom AGP driver that will replace the crappy Microsoft one and should allow you to install Cat 7.8 and above.

jafo818 reviewed v8.1 on Jan 16, 2008

What AGP problem? I read the release notes and "AGP" is only found under the known XP issues... No fix.

tickleonthetum reviewed v8.1 on Jan 16, 2008

According to release notes these should fix the AGP problem... testing... No they don't. I still can't install them on my Sapphire 2600XT AGP.

This is getting ridiculous.

=TFM=Melvin reviewed v7.12 on Jan 6, 2008

My System: Intel D975XBX2, 2GB DDR 6400, two ATI X1950 PRO, Windows XP Pro

I also get screen tearing, but only in CROSSFIRE mode. It doesn't matter about VSYNC setting; I don't think it's that sort of problem in my case, anyway.

This started happening with Catalyst 7.10 for me. It continued in 7.11 and is still in 7.12. I have to run in 7.9 if I expect to use the investment I made to get two X1950 PRO cards for CROSSFIRE.

For me, it only happens with TF2 in 7.12, but I don't run many other games. I don't see it in the other Valve games or in Battlefield 2. That's all I've checked.

I reported this to ATI (with their customer support agreement it was a driver problem) just before 7.11 was released, so hopefully it will be fixed soon. I don't like not being able to use any subsequent fixes or new features or performance improvements after 7.9, 3 driver versions back.

photonboy reviewed v7.12 on Dec 31, 2007

My System: Asus A8N-SLI (NForce 4), 2GB DDR 3200, X2 4800+, ATI HD3870, Creative Audigy 2 sound card, Windows MCE 2005

(Yes I have an NVidia SLI, but I'm only using a single ATI card so there should be no issues.)

I just purchased the ATI HD3870 and I have some problems that I am confident are directly due to the drivers:
1) vertical and/or horizontal tearing (even with VSYNC on)
2) "lag" or "stuttering"
3) unsmooth picture movement (when dragging oversized picture) in FastStone picture browser
4) stuttering? issue when playing DVD-Video's (tried two different MPEG2 decoders and different players)

I suspect that most of these problems are related and hopefully will be fixed soon. Yes, this card is fairly new but as I understand it the card is not architecturally that different from the previous (power-hungry) card and that power management and a smaller transistor size (the reasons I went ATI) are the only differences.

Unfortunately these problems affect just about every modern game I have (it even affects Halo CE, though FarCry didn't seem that affected. 11 of 12 games displayed the lagging and tearing though.) **Halo CE plays BETTER on my old NVidia 6600GT because I can play at max settings @ 60FPS but without the "lag" and "screen tearing" issues.

I am impressed with how good the games look and if they sort this out soon I'll be a happy guy, but if this drags out I'll be pretty upset.

I mainly went with ATI over NVidia because of the superior power management (roughly 18 Watts Idle for the HD3870 vs 32 Watts for the 8800GT). The 320 stream processors also bode promise if they get software support, which also begs the question : "How do I Transcode my videos as promised?" I Googled and found some vague reference to using Nero (I own Nero 8) but I was unable to utilize the hardware decoders for transcoding as promised, nor could I find ANY info at ATI on how to do so. Come on, ATI. This is bordering on false advertising and I'm a pretty forgiving guy. In fact, I discovered that Transcoding support has been promised back to 2005, and when the program could even be used it only utilized the CPU. Hey, I bought this card because of what YOU SAID IT CAN DO!

Summary:
I'm pissed at the current support but if these glitches get sorted out soon I'll be happy I went ATI.

(NVidia make note: if you'd offered similar power management on the 8800GT you'd have had my money.)

anomoly reviewed v7.12 on Dec 21, 2007

Nor the 2400. Who cares as the damn card doesn't do 1680x1050 anyways. (diamond max)
I'm stuck at 1280x1024 on a $380 2ms ws lcd.
I still prefer ati over nvidia as at least they make their own cards.

LuceferAB reviewed v7.12 on Dec 21, 2007

Still does not work with ATI AGP HD2600Pro :(

Bobbitchin reviewed v7.12 on Dec 21, 2007

How had ATI managed to stay in business all these years? Again the drivers do not work with modern games. I have to roll back five versions to play TF2.

-Lord- reviewed v7.12 on Dec 21, 2007

How does ATI rationalize that they put their cards into laptops, the majority of which cannot be upgraded hardware-wise, and then stop making drivers for them. I have a Radeon 9000 IGP in my 3.5GHz Laptop with 2 GB of memory, and can't run Vista properly because there are no compatible drivers for the video card. The laptop itself is WELL capable of running the resource hog that Vista is, but stops cold at the video.

Whomever made the decision to stop supporting the cards that we BOUGHT and PAID for should be fired.

yokozuna reviewed v7.12 on Dec 21, 2007

I think it is a mystery how come that ATI/AMD makes so good new open source drivers for Linux (RadeonHD, I know, I know - they are in fact made by Novell) and so utterly bad ones like their drivers for Windows. Maybe the company should consider outsourcing or something?

Gormless reviewed v7.12 on Dec 21, 2007

Please nVidia bring out a high end AGP card, my gaming has been terribe since ATi shafted us with the X1950 Pro AGP cards, add this to a VIA chipset and its game over man.

peterj1978 reviewed v7.12 on Dec 20, 2007

Broken 3d since 7.7 version for me with a X1950Pro AGP card on an Abit AN7 mobo.
Pathetic is all i have to say will never buy neither an AMD nor ATi product again in my life or even recommend someone else to do it.
Worst crap support ever just go to game.amd.com and check the forums and see how many are having problems.

Morgane reviewed v7.11 on Dec 1, 2007

Radeon 9700 Pro / XP SP2
v7.11 cannot be installed (neither CC nor driver-only package)
(Error "datasize() !=3"; "Setup failed ... (0x80040707)").
No response from AMD yet - lousy customer service, BTW.

v7.10 works without problems and fast.

theqwerty reviewed v7.11 on Nov 22, 2007

X1950 Pro AGP
Don't upgrade.

improvelence reviewed v7.11 on Nov 21, 2007

Always work great, never any problems.

useppewind reviewed v7.10 on Oct 13, 2007

I'm agree with Floodland. Drop .NET, CCC takes about 30 seconds to start, ATI tray tools 1 second.

mikeyx11 reviewed v7.10 on Oct 13, 2007

I was using the 7.9 drivers, updated them to 7.10, reset, and the computer became so slow I couldn't use it. I rolled back to the 7.9 drivers and the problem went away.

Terrible.

landfish reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

10 out of 10 for drivers and CCC.

Adrian79 reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

great job! oh, and i LOVE CCC! good stuff ;-)

nelsonhf reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

For those having the "CRT invalid type" display type problem, ATI is aware of the problem: http://support.ati.com/i...ge&questionID=29385

In meantime, it's possible to disable the error report in System Log. Open REGEDIT, go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\
Services\Atierecord" and change the values of "eRecordEnable" and "eRecordEnablePopups" from 1 to 0.

Floodland reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

New drivers, small improvements but still rolling that crappy CCC. AMD see it! Microsoft is pulling you down and down. Forget .NET crap!
I just bought a new Geforce 8800 card just be fair blaming AMD. Nvidia drivers are MUCH better. They are not perfect, but they kick in the AMD a** all the way.
I really liked Ati image quality, but good hardware without decent drivers is a shame. Using ATI tray tools is the solution, but AMD should be pretty embarrassed about that.
AMD Drop CCC!! Learn something, DAAMIT!

Mystiqq reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

First ever ATI drivers to give problem(s). On my quite old x800xt(pe) these drivers didnt work on certain games in fullscreen mode. Did complete uninstall/reinstall but still nothing, reverted back to the older drivers and now works like a charm. Also the "invalid CRT type" error is quite annoying.

AntiochMedia reviewed v8.31.100.3.2.1 Beta on Oct 12, 2007

I wish ATI would have the heart to add support for older cars such as the Mobility 7500. Using Windows Vista with a Mobility 7500 requires forcing old drivers to run and ignoring warnings. The result is that windows crashes on shut down. While most systems with a Mobility 7500 shouldn't be running Vista anyway, my laptop enjoyed its brief role as a state-of-the-art Vista machine (laughing).

It's back to being a stable Windows XP machine with Omega Drivers and IE6 for testing websites now =)

yokozuna reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

1. CCC does not want to load and shows that I should have administrative priviledges. The problem is that I have only one account and inevitably it must have the priviledges. The driver itself installs without major problems.
2. the device manager of my machine shows some PCI-E unknown devices. OK ATI I will tell you what the unknown devices are - my ASUS Radeon 2600XT card. The only PCI-E device I own.
3. some artifacts are visible on my 2D desktop (yes!2D!). There are some other surprises like invisible buttons in jetAudio 7.0 or strange effects in videos played by the KMPlayer (distortions). Black squares in Windows explorer are sometimes visible.
4. "CRT invalid display type" bug

I can award ATI with my "The Most Hopeless Driver Maker" award. Nobody beats ATI! Even Creative!

CyberDoc999 reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

I would take ATI over "buggy nvidia" any day!
every nvidia card I have seen has bugs in certain games! ATI is the only solution.

mickrussom reviewed v7.10 on Oct 12, 2007

They are still selling cards? Who needs these drivers when all the cards since Catalyst 5.x have been second fiddle to Nvidia. ATI is really the dregs of bad drivers.

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v7.10 on Oct 11, 2007

I only install the driver, but it still has the annoying bug that "CRT invalid display type" appears in the system event viewer. I wonder how they managed to think that one up? It wasn't there until a few versions ago.

taaaki reviewed v7.9 on Sep 17, 2007

I've never installed CCC, so I've never had any major issues with the ATI drivers.

Be smart,

1. Download the driver only package
2. Install Ati Tray Tools.
3. ???
4. PROFIT

..::][Ben][::.. reviewed v7.9 on Sep 14, 2007

Dam wtf is going on at ati?
This is not an driver anymore, this is an advertising package with a lot of trash in it.
CCC is also an joke, i begin to hate ati...

olavinto reviewed v7.9 on Sep 12, 2007

Personally I like the new Control Center much more than the old control panel. I don't really care if it takes up a lot of system resources - I've had enough for years. Sure this isn't the case for everyone.

Only thing that I hate about these is that I should always remove to old drivers before updating to the newest. It usually works fine but sometimes it ends up messing things up.

But for sure, there's much room for improvement.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v7.9 on Sep 12, 2007

I stopped updating ATI drivers a long time ago. Each update just made things worse. The CCC is a joke, even though you can find drivers without it. Unless you are having a serious problem there is NO reason to update.

bigsexy022870 reviewed v7.9 on Sep 11, 2007

I own Ati and wanna like ati. but the drivers suck. It's always a hit or miss. Some drivers will work and others wont. I have given up on this monthly crap. I have a driver version that works and will not waste time updating them. Sure i might miss a good version. But i also wont get pissed from downloading a crap one.

landfish reviewed v7.9 on Sep 11, 2007

no problems here with the latest offering from ATI, mind you I can't remember ever having a bad experience with any version of the Catalyst drivers over the many years, and cards, that I've been using them.
I'm inclined to go along with @improvelence on his take about the negative reviews.

purush reviewed v7.9 on Sep 11, 2007

ATI has consistantly come out with improved drivers each month. The latest 7.9 takes the cake, my ATI Radeon 1600 card powers my Sharp 37" LCD TV to which I have hooked up my computer via DVI and the image is stunning. I have tried Nvidia card before but this is simply breath taking. Thanks to all the staff ATI.
Peter

improvelence reviewed v7.9 on Sep 11, 2007

I have installed ATI drivers on a WIDE array of systems and never encountered any problems. I honestly think the negative reviews come from masquerading NVIDIA fanboys.

Lotheric reviewed v8.31.100.3.2.1 Beta on Sep 11, 2007

Version 7.9 installs STEAM if you click on Express...

Gormless reviewed v7.9 on Sep 11, 2007

Nice to see ATI still shafting X1950 Pro AGP owners with another set of drivers that will tipple over the most stable PC.

doctorsmith reviewed v7.8 on Aug 15, 2007

I agree with @ abear27 I've never had a problem ....

Radeon 1650 card on Vista box running fine with these drivers.
I wish I could say the same for my other setup with an Nvidia card, never again I'll stick with ATI from now on.

abear27 reviewed v7.8 on Aug 14, 2007

I've never had a problem ....

These drivers are fine on my Dell Dimension system, Radeon 9800 card, XPSP2.

layback reviewed v7.8 on Aug 14, 2007

I install this new ATI drives yesterday. They didn't work. Made my Display all mess up...Big and Gray and then my computer crash. I made a restore point before I put the new Drives in. Return to the way I had it before and then download the Drives one by one and try that way. Install the first one (7-8_xp32-64_ccc_lang1_50964.exe) and the same thing happen again..so I did another restore point back and going to stay with the last dives 7.7..Do a Restore Point before trying the Drives..Have Fun.

slinkys_delsol reviewed v7.8 on Aug 14, 2007

Two Suggestions:

+ NVIDIA
+ Unified Driver

All I ever heard from the ATI Bunch is "BSOD". I had to build a few Medical Machine (XRAY / PACS Systems) and they insisted on using ATI. What a PAIN IN THE A$$! The Machines came with NVIDIA Cards, but noooooooooooooooooo insisted lets buy this "$800 BSOD Chipset"

Make the Jump and it will save you a lot of complaining in the longrun.

yokozuna reviewed v7.8 on Aug 14, 2007

I have not installed this driver yet, so I am not writing about this particular version but about ATI drivers in general.

The thing is that ATI does not listen its customers, and I think it is "the philosophy of ATI".
People do not want CCC and want old Control Panel? Ok, so we force them to use CCC. Does the keyboard shortcut Alt + C interfere with most European languages? Ok, so we will leave the shortcut untouched. Do people want to have memory/core speed regulation integrated with the drivers? Ok, so we will not add any regulation.

There are so many people who make good ATI tweaked drivers like Omega, NGO or DNA drivers. ATI should hire one or all of them.

I use ATI cards because they give much better picture than competion (I work with digital photograhs, so it counts). In general, ATI makes very decent hardware. But the team which makes drivers (esp. Linux drivers) should be immediately fired.

landfish reviewed v7.8 on Aug 13, 2007

running fine here on a Vista box [with the vista drivers of course] haven't run into any of the problems that others posters have.

Point Zero reviewed v7.8 on Aug 13, 2007

OMG ! What did they break this time ?

sjc001 reviewed v7.8 on Aug 13, 2007

It didn't cause a BSOD on mine, but it lowered the res to 640X480 and 4bit color and wouldn't let me use a higher res or color bit. I had to go back to 7.7.

mjm01010101 reviewed v7.8 on Aug 13, 2007

Yeah I've tried the driver. Causes a BSOD on restarting the machine, and has for almost a year, on two different ATI boxes I manage.

BB88 reviewed v7.7 on Jul 20, 2007

Have you guys really ever tried nvidia drivers? They're even worse! Almost ceased support for GF 7 series (or older) and Windows XP and only keeps pumping out buggy beta drivers!

incisor reviewed v7.7 on Jul 20, 2007

Works fine for me.
Just install the display driver, if you dont like the bloated ccc (-1).

http://ati.amd.com/suppo...vers/xp/radeonx-xp.html

mickrussom reviewed v7.7 on Jul 20, 2007

Due to continual bad software, I will never buy ATI again, if the hardware benches better/ Ill take the 10% performance hit (with my 8800GTX that may never happen) and have decent drivers.

Alex Stevens reviewed v7.7 on Jul 19, 2007

Yeah, unfortunately the driver isn't much better.

moordrake reviewed v7.7 on Jul 19, 2007

All these negative comments about the CCC, which I totally agrees with. But, has anyone tried oh, I dont know.....lets say.......the driver ????

DudeBoyz reviewed v7.7 on Jul 19, 2007

I agree that the CCC (Catalyst Control Center based on .NET) is just utter junk compared to the standard control panel. Thankfully, you can usually download the latest core driver with the CP (Control Panel) at this site:

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

I also agree on ATI Tray Tools. Best thing for ATI cards since RadLinker.

The core driver itself is tolerable. It's the other junk they throw in that seems to be causing most of the disdain.

mjm01010101 reviewed v7.7 on Jul 19, 2007

Abandonware: When your users revolt and no longer want your crap software on their systems.

c4p0ne reviewed v7.6 on Jun 26, 2007

I AGREE!!!! CCC may as well be CCCP. ITS THE F*CKING DEVIL! crapNET "technology" :: throws up :: sucks so fscking bad no wonder why programs like SmartLaunch are so unstable and crash-prone. But my biggest beef about using crapNET is the ALMOST TRIPLE memory footprint of the EXACT equivalent functionality done using native API.

ATI you are REALLLLLY F*CKED UP and WRONG on this one. GTF back to a "CCC" interface but WITHOUT the crapNET!!

Don't be discouraged though ATI users, I heard the 2900XT rips a$$-chunks out of nVidia's 8800's. You just need to install the DRIVER ONLY and use alternative UI's like the one from ngo, or the one I personally use (which can even mimic CCC to some extent without the BLOAT):

ATI Tray Tools

www.radeon.ru / www.guru3d.com

P.S. Well known fact about software: if it's Russian made, it always f*cking OWNS.

magicclue reviewed v7.6 on Jun 26, 2007

plz stop this CCC nightmare!
And make drivers work for all laptops with ATI hardware. stop the stupid vendor check!

Alex Stevens reviewed v7.6 on Jun 26, 2007

I stopped updating my Catalyst drivers a long time ago. Each so called update just made things worse. The CCC is a joke, even though you can find drivers without it. Unless you are having a serious problem with some game that has been fixed there is NO reason to update. Performance and compatibility both go down with each release. I hoped AMD would improve the driver situation for both Windows and non-MS operating systems but they have not. My current ATI card will be the LAST one I ever buy from them.

anarkhy reviewed v7.6 on Jun 26, 2007

CCC sux.
There is a version of catalyst with control panel at http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

doctorsmith reviewed v7.5 on Jun 6, 2007

if you plotted a graph on the performance of the last few updates it would show a steady line heading down the page, not good at all.
And the CCC is getting dodgier with each release, the CCC is quickly becoming Crap Crap Crap.

drfung reviewed v7.5 on Jun 4, 2007

Been installing the upgrades to v7.4 now (XP Pro, X1600Pro, genuine ATI) successfully. V7.5 - went on, no display at all on the LCD after reboot. Wouldn't even come up in safe mode - bizarre. Connected it to a CRT and could at least get an image - at which point I uninstalled all v 7.5 ATI components, reconnected to the LCD and reinstalled v7.4 successfully.
Not impressive, glad I had the previous version on hand.

ssb reviewed v7.5 on Jun 4, 2007

First drop the stupid CCC, and all other .NET based slow crap.
Second drop the useless hotkey poller service. It does nothing but stealing system resources.
Then put your a$$ down and do some serious development on the driver alone. We can live without CCC though I cannot say the same for the driver.

MidnightWatcher reviewed v7.5 on Jun 3, 2007

Beware: Version 7.5 may not work with your LCD monitor. I cannot get my SyncMaster 940BW to work at 1440x900 @ 60Hz. Buggy buggy buggy. :(

bigsexy022870 reviewed v7.5 on Jun 2, 2007

There is no need for this Calalyst Crap Center. The old way was perfect and caused no problems. Plus all the BS files that load up after installation. I have to goto msconfig to turn them off. For those who don't know how to turn them off, they end up lossing memory from all of it. Much like all other company's it's useless and unwanted. And why is it that a new version fixes some stuff and makes other stuff worse. New version should mean less problems. If they don't get there head of of there a$$ soon i'm gonna go with Nvidia next time.

thezelda reviewed v7.5 on Jun 2, 2007

I will never buy ATI crap again. These drivers just get worse and worse. I have an 8800GTX now and while the drivers are hardly perfect, they suck less than ATI.

I have to say that when buying video hardware, one should ONLY think of the drivers when doing so. The 10% performance "increase" isnt worth bad drivers.

roj reviewed v7.5 on Jun 2, 2007

Pretty much all revs since 7.2 stink. They built a new CCC based on .Net 2.0 which arguably performed faster and didn't blow the daylights out of system resources and then proceeded to choke it to death. 7.4 was a disaster - my system seemed to have extra overhead with every operation, not just video. 7.5 isn't any different. I'm back to 7.2 which is reasonably (for ATI drivers) svelte and quick. My next card will be nVidia. ATI has their golden era with Catalyst 5.x but since then has been steadily going downhill and is now plummeting.

THREE stars for good hardware hampered by poor software - a very old story for ATI (I go back to the original All-In Wonder days).

CyberDoc999 reviewed v7.5 on Jun 2, 2007

way too many problems had to go back to NGO....

Wolker reviewed v7.5 on Jun 2, 2007

For Windows Vista 64 bit Same Error , 'Cli.implementation'. When This Problem Fix Ati ?

vcorvinus reviewed v7.5 on Jun 2, 2007

Too bad they aren't updating the Omega drivers for ATI anymore, I had to resort to going back to ATI's drivers... ugh.

mjm01010101 reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

Ditto! Please include a pre-selected "Free Pizza" and "Free 3 months Prostitution subscription" boxes... :)

Adrian79 reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

wierd, works just fine here :-)

hey to the guy talking about his vista messing up.. your on the wrong board! and plz tell me u did not install these "xp" drivers on ur vista lol

DudeBoyz reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

I still don't like the CCC compared to the Control Panel. I'm glad I can get the latest drivers with the Control Panel from NEO. Same driver, just the original control panel. Much faster and more stable.

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

That said - HOW COME there is no protection against invalid resolution / refresh rate when you switch from the tray icon that ATI provides?

You set it to 1280x1024 at say 85hz on a 17" CRT and it just hangs there.

You can't run CCC in SAFE MODE, you see...

Nasty. CCC = Junk by comparison. Sorry - it just does.

sjc001 reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

I just installed it on my Vista and when I rebooted Vista told me that I had to reactive within 3 days. And it wouldn't accept my key anymore. Activation is totally useless and messes up easily.

To Adrian79. This isn't my first update for this card (Sapphire x1650 Pro, BTW) and yes I did use the Vista version. I had the same sort of problem back when I had XP and had tried out a virtual CD-ROM program. Activation has trouble telling the difference between real, virtual equipment, and even just a driver update. This can use up your allotted amount of activations rather fast if you like to try things out. Luckily I found a way to solve both problems.

Point Zero reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

Extreme crappiness. Aaaah the good old ATI-driver days !

shawkins reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

Now comes with pre-selected checkboxes for "Free Games Offer" and "Earthsim". This is the same type of tingle I felt when I downloaded my first Nvidia driving containing the Nvidia pop-up blocker!

If ATI/AMD was REALLY smart, they'd include a pre-selected "Free Pizza" and "Free 3 months WoW subscription" boxes... :)

l3rutalSilence reviewed v7.5 on Jun 1, 2007

Yeah I like the mbut Guess what AMD HAS LOST THE PROCEESOR BATTLE BETWEEN INTEL SEE FOR YOURSELF http://news.softpedia.co...-INTEL-CPUs-56248.shtml

jafo818 reviewed v7.4 on May 4, 2007

Something must be horribly wrong with my PC. I installed 7.3 and had issues. Reverted back to 7.2 and everything was fine. Now I upgraded to 7.4 and exactly the same problem. Everything is sluggish as heck. Uninstalled and went back to 7.2 and everything is kosher again. Yes, I uninstall using the "ATI - Software Uninstall Utility" in Add/Remove Programs, reboot, and install latest version. This approach has worked well for me up until 7.3!

And| reviewed v7.4 on Apr 20, 2007

@ TLees

Well, I suppose youre right, but sometimes they need to include new products into the support of their drivers. And sometimes it happens it doesnt turn out that great.

Alternative is the Omega drivers, build on the Catalyst drivers.

TLees reviewed v7.4 on Apr 19, 2007

You know what they say, If its not broke don't fix it

wincement reviewed v7.4 on Apr 19, 2007

@wllweb:

Uhhh... then post that review on ATI Catalyst Drivers for Windows Vista.

http://fileforum.betanew...dows_Vista/1058330408/3

As for the drivers. Meh, they work. They do what they're supposed to.

Adrian79 reviewed v8.31.100.3.2.1 Beta on Mar 30, 2007

7.3 vista drivers out today

wllweb reviewed v7.3 on Mar 30, 2007

The drivers for Vista causes Blue Screen on boot.
http://support.ati.com/i.../default.asp?deptID=894

cricri_pingouin reviewed v7.3 on Mar 29, 2007

Same as jafo818 here.
Windows scrolling and screen refreshing is very slow.
Not good on my 9800XT, I'm downloading 7.2 again.
*EDIT* ok, that didn't help. So I uninstalled everything, rebooted, installed 7.3 again, rebooted, and they are now working fine. I crank it up to a 4, -1 for the unusual hassle.

rawd reviewed v7.3 on Mar 29, 2007

Nope, quite the opposite. These are very fast, best 7.x Cat's yet

jafo818 reviewed v7.3 on Mar 29, 2007

Anyone else think this version slowed their PC down a lot? I don't know why I think it, because I didn't see any excessive CPU usage... But my computer just felt really sluggish with 7.3 installed. I've gone back to 7.2 and it's back to normal.

Koko123 reviewed v7.2 on Feb 24, 2007

CCC is bugged for me (XP Pro, 1950pro card). only the basic page shows up and there are reports of missing ccc-core XML files in the eventviewer upon each CCC launch.

Gormless reviewed v7.2 on Feb 23, 2007

CCC still resource heavy, adding up to around 100MB of extra RAM usage on my PC and still no X1950 pro overclocking.

jcollake reviewed v7.2 on Feb 22, 2007

Many OpenGL performance improvements for Vista in this release.

the artist reviewed v7.2 on Feb 22, 2007

HURRAH AMD-ATI, it has finally come to be well done! This is almost historical, hehe!

mjm01010101 reviewed v7.2 on Feb 22, 2007

I take back all my comments over the years (view the comments to see how frustrated I have been.) This is the return of ATI usability. Good Work!

toymachine reviewed v7.2 on Feb 22, 2007

Wow, CCC isn't slow as molasses now. This is the way it should have been. This runs fine on my old x1800xt, although I'll probably get these in XG Warcat flavor whenever they're out (better IQ, tweaks, etc).

Still would like to see some improvements on the linux front though. :/

BoNeLeSS reviewed v7.2 on Feb 22, 2007

It took some (a lot of) time, but at last CCC is as fast as it should be.

On the other hand the driver uns perfectly on my x1600.

jafo818 reviewed v7.2 on Feb 22, 2007

Will install this on my home machine when I get home. Pretty amazing that this claims to be an update that improves performance across the board (usually they target specific applications).

id242 reviewed v8.31.100.3.2.1 Beta on Jan 30, 2007

2007-01-29: ATI Radeon Catalyst 7.1 for Vista are now available (7-1_vista32_dd_ccc_41241_enu)

This release of Catalyst® introduces the following new features:
* Blu-ray and HD-DVD playback
* CrossFire support under Vista
* Native OpenGL Vista support
* Catalyst Install Manager for Vista
* New Catalyst Control Center

Plenty of resolved issues as well:
http://ati.amd.com/suppo...a32/common-vista32.html

Mumoto reviewed v7.1 on Jan 11, 2007

Running great on my Radeon 9800pro

I used the 12mb one but ALWAYS follow the following steps before you go installing it

1) Uninstall your old drivers

2) Restart

3) Install new drivers

4) Restart again

then it works fine, I've done it without the restart to see if they fixed the install/uninstall sequence but guess it didn't :P

If you don't be happy with your laggy computer lolz XD

Cyrop reviewed v7.1 on Jan 11, 2007

Running perfectly on my x1900xt.
I am using the no control panel version (12mb) off the AMD/ATi site... ATi Tray Tool to configure it, and its runs like a dream :)

doctorsmith reviewed v7.1 on Jan 11, 2007

running fine on my 2 boxes - Radeon X1650 & 9500 Pro

And| reviewed v7.1 on Jan 11, 2007

Wheter or not you have a problem with the catalyst drivers, actually usualy reflects your grahpics card. Theres almost always a series of cards it doesnt support that well. It runs just fine on mine, and I have a 9800XT.

hugh750 reviewed v7.1 on Jan 11, 2007

Me nether.

landfish reviewed v7.1 on Jan 10, 2007

No problems here.

ezh reviewed v7.1 on Jan 10, 2007

So? How is it?

wtsitmn reviewed v6.12 on Dec 29, 2006

Avoid the December 2006 driver and Catalyst. It blows! I'm now trying older drivers with my older card. Hopefully I'll find one that works. Good old dependable ATi. The only thing you can depend on is monthly releases of new bugs. (sigh)

DudeBoyz reviewed v6.11 on Nov 17, 2006

Well what do you know? This version does not have the 2D slowdown bug, does not choke on either Links 2001 or 2003, and seems to perform fine overall.

How'd THAT happen?

I went to this great site so I could download these drivers with the original CONTROL PANEL instead of the stupid, lame and slow CCC:

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

Did the install, fired up the games, wala, so far, so good.

I'm going to do some more testing and if it warrants, up the score.

Usually, when they fix a couple of bugs, they introduce others, so I need to run more games to see what up.

I do appreciate the constant monthly updates, and hope this is the first version since 6.3 that is worth keeping on my machine.

We shall see.

Edit - Been hammering these things with my standard variety of titles and they are holding up pretty darn well so far. Best set since 6.3 to be sure. LOTR BFME II, Rallisport Challenge, Links 2001 and 2003, UT2004, Serious Sam TFE and TSE, Dungeon Siege & DS LOA, etc. - so far, all are running without hiccups.

So, I'm updating the score to a solid 4 for the quality of the drivers.

Thanks, ATI, and thanks to NGOHQ for the Control Panel version of these drivers. My X800XT thanks you, and I thank you.

doctorsmith reviewed v6.11 on Nov 16, 2006

good to see the 3 year olds trying to make comments, every one no matter how young should be allowed to have their say, if only for the rest of us to have a laugh.
Nothing wrong with these drivers, they work fine, and good to see the ATI/AMD merger hasn't slowed down the quality and frequency of the updates.

thezelda reviewed v6.11 on Nov 16, 2006

.NET bas infection, bad driver, many bugs and flaws and suppot for older cards is broken.

AllI have to say, Ati/AMD, is Woodcrest Conroe beats Opteron and even the K8L before its out, and the Geforce 8800 GTX is out, how bout them apples, ATI? How about that.

Ati is a sad pathetic prune and these drivers are again, a bulky nuworking horrorshow

freaktmp reviewed v6.10 on Nov 2, 2006

All the I-hate-ATI-'cause-CCC-sucks are ridiculous and unfounded as long as there are official driver releases with the control panel courtesy of the ngohq.

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

Sure the CCC sucks, but it's getting better all the time, and there are plenty of alternatives. Comparing NVIDIA and ATI driver quality is ludicrous. NVIDIA maybe be marginally better at hardware, but couldn't right proper drivers if their life depended on it. The only thing they care about is topping ATI in the 3dmark results. Who cares that the TV-out is all messed up? Certainly not NVIDIA!

ssb reviewed v6.10 on Nov 2, 2006

Although I agree with Floodland and other folks, that .NET adoption for driver's control panel is very bad idea, there is a simple solution.
Don't install control center, get the drivers alone, plus WDM and that's all.

Floodland reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

Another version, another mistake... AMD seems to continue developing with the pathetic .NET "technology". I see a terrible mistake, or, the only thing AMD want is to sell more CPUs, because of the crappy drivers sucking every single hz. to load that PATHETIC .NET framework, to load 99999 dlls to draw a 2D box. I hope they aren't so dumb, because if they are, they will lose both CPU and GPU market...

Newfive reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

https://support.ati.com/...owledge&folderID=27

doctorsmith reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

@ DJ BILL
are you serious you couldn't find the page to download from, it's the same link as it's always been, just green now and saying AMD instead of red and ATI, if you can't get that far how on earth are you going to work out how to download the new drivers let alone install them.
This surely removes any doubt of DJ's having a brain.

DJ Bill reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

I didn't find the download in the new web site. Where is it the page for download ATI Catalyst 6.10 for Radeon run on Windows XP?

--------------------
@ doctorsmith
I've found the driver after i've delete my internet temporary files and cookies.

c4p0ne reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

I knew there was something fish about the whole AMD/ATI thing. W.T.*F* is going on here people? First crapNET in the CCC, then ATI starts slipping with their products, NOW THIS? I think I'm finally starting to understand that nVidia was too strong for ATI (I am NO longer a #1 fan) and that they HAD TO DO SOMETHING to salvage themselves from eminent breakdown. What a HORRIFIC time for AMD to come in and suck up ATI though hmm? What with the Intel Core2 Duos crushing their AMD equivalents in every benchmark in the known galaxy.

Sh*t man. It HURTS real bad that ATI died but I'll get over it since I was never a nvidia hater (just a confused ATI lover), BUT GOING BACK TO INTEL?? I don't know if I can stomach that!!! :( :( :(

lissack@lissack.com reviewed vBeta 2 on Nov 1, 2006

Finally!!!!!

Todd 13 reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

I agree with dragun50. I'll never buy another ATI card again.

landfish reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

for once I have to defend ATI, these last lot of drivers are the first ones to work in my x1650 card apart from the ones that came with it. I have been in communication with them over the problem and received an email yesterday telling me the 6.10 drivers had just been released and would probably fix the problem I was having _ they did, happy now.

BoNeLeSS reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

Wow... people is so sensible noticing levels of costumer support. Well... for me these drivers just works. I'm not a pro gamer. I just play 2 or 3 games and work flawessly. I agree about the CCC being a bit bloated but since I change settings just a few times every month this is not a big problem for me.

dragun50 reviewed v6.10 on Nov 1, 2006

Ever since AMD bought out ATI, the level of support has dropped completely.
They no longer seem to want anything to do with customer support.
Any one who purchased an All In Wonder are now out of luck for any sort of support at all.
I suggest going to Nvidia.

Eemeli reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 3, 2006

I think this release is only for Windows Vista, because they don't have updated XP drivers. In their website. I think if peoples download new drivers, they should only download driver release, not that all what is their websie.

simnov reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 3, 2006

i hope the screen not go black last works 6.7 with my x1900gt

nilst2006 reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 3, 2006

Choose custom install and uncheck both alternatives (drivers/control center) and then just check the drivers - then You don't need .net.

Anyway Catalyst 6.5 are the latest working drivers with my X1600 cards...(on xp x64)

Sad that ATI can't get rid of all bugs... =(

thezelda reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 3, 2006

consistently bad. still they havent fixed a 9000 bug I found that creeped up in Version 6.4 ... I even filed a bug. Death to ATI and the horrible drivers. I buy Nvidia simply because of the drivers not being crap.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 2, 2006

"God forbid you try and do interlaced outputs to TV on anything but an ATi card. :P"

Right, because the singular goal of my GPU is to output to a silly TV. Let's ignore all the other flaws of this product's drivers, for YEARS, because it fits one niche no other card does.

Look, the CCC didn't fill any gaps in ATI's old drivers. NOBODY was complaining about them other than performance (hence Omega's.) So ATI introduced something simply because it was "cool."

Anyone who starts up the CCC on a system versus Nvidia will notice an immediate difference. It's that simple why this product is continually panned.

Tenoq reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 2, 2006

There are some very sad individuals in here. Have you actually tried using the latest ATi drivers? They're quite good. God forbid you try and do interlaced outputs to TV on anything but an ATi card. :P

AshG reviewed v6.10 RC1 on Oct 2, 2006

Excellent drivers, no issues with any of the work I do or games I play. While I am one of the people who regrets the decision to go the .Net route, nVidia is following close behind with their latest sets of drivers.

Point Zero reviewed v6.9 on Sep 21, 2006

Their drivers get worse & worse. They try to improve speed on the newest cards & sneakily degrade performance of 'older' cards to make you buy a new one.

phiber0ptik reviewed v6.9 on Sep 21, 2006

Agree with previously posts, .NET, the slowest thing on earth, when all we need is speed :) But four because it works and does the job ;p

M3wThr33 reviewed v6.9 on Sep 20, 2006

Any chance this build fixes issues with Coverflow not displaying in iTunes 7?

c4p0ne reviewed v6.9 on Sep 20, 2006

Indeed ATI SCRWED-THE-FUUUUCK up with that RETARDED decision to use .NET crapology. Thats why they had to have AMD take them under its wing. Cause they went from the BEST to sucking straight-up BALLS. I HATE ATI not cause I like something else, but because of what they've done to one of their biggest fans. FUUUUUUCK YOU ATI! :(:(:(:(:(:(

DudeBoyz reviewed v6.9 on Sep 20, 2006

If you want to use the CONTROL PANEL instead of the CCC, look at this link:

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

I'll be doing extensive testing and will update the score accordingly.

TheLurker reviewed v6.9 on Sep 20, 2006

be Smart -- Setup a System Restore Point before installing...!

Or take some type of Backup of your system...

ATI drivers are Notorious for Not being able to be back-rev'ed -- without Major problems.

This would be regarding the WDM Tuning portion of the drivers SPECIFICALLY.

cac2690 reviewed v6.9 on Sep 20, 2006

The best build i have installed so far. I totally understand where people hate the newer versions because it's true they work like crap with older cards like my (Radeon AIW 9800) but 6.9 fixed a lot of issues with my current X1900 AIW card and X1800 XTX. So yeah i would recommend 6.9 only to people with X series cards.

sparkf1 reviewed v6.9 on Sep 20, 2006

ATI really did good job

TonyLinguini reviewed v6.8 on Aug 21, 2006

I have not been able to get any of the last 8 versions to install automatically. I have tried all knowledge base articles. The exe hangs the computer. Since the files at least get extracted, I manually install the updated drivers.

werne reviewed v6.8 on Aug 21, 2006

To: Sabz
You are not the only one. CCC on my computer also shows version 6.7 after uprading to version 6.8. Update: as of 31 Aug 2006 CCC now shows version 6.8 after updating. I redownloaded the ATI drivers with Catalyst from ATI's site even though the size and date of the file had not changed. It would be nice if ATI acknowledged these changes, but something is better than nothing.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v6.8 on Aug 20, 2006

These work OK on my x800 system
but they really su*k on my 9800 pro.
ATI is trying to de-support the 9800 and less cards!

DudeBoyz reviewed v6.8 on Aug 20, 2006

The 2D interface slowdown bug that was introduced in 6.7 is gone with 6.8, thankfully.

However, after doing some in-depth testing, I'm finding these drivers to be nothing but trouble on the machine I game with. What a freakin' nightmare. Start Links 2003 and it causes a major crash, reboot and recovery. Seems to wreak havoc with my network driver, believe it or not.

Back to 6.3 for me.

For those brave enough to try these, if you want to use the latest CATALYST with the ORIGINAL CONTROL PANEL, go to the link below:

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

and select 6.8 with CP in the description (not the CCC). Installed and works great on the system I tested it on. I'll be adding 6.8 to my other machine tomorrow after I ghost image it.

In order to get these working right, I needed to use the ATI UNINSTALL utility that is accessible in the CONTROL PANEL. That utility cleans out the registry, driver files, etc. for you and then you can reboot and then run the joint install program that I linked to above.

I had to go back into the DISPLAY tab in the ATI control panel, go to Monitor Properties and set the Max Resolution, Max Refresh and Refresh Rate Override values to get games on my CRT to run at 75hz by default instead of 60hz, but other than that, it was no bother really.

Still, the drivers do need work on stability and consistency, imo.

I had not heard that ATI is trying to UNSUPPORT the 9800 series of cards. Where is that coming from? Anyone? Thanks

Sabz reviewed v6.8 on Aug 19, 2006

still shows 6.7 in ATI Control Catalyst Centre ? whats the deal here

HurricaneGame reviewed v6.8 on Aug 19, 2006

They seem fine to me, some improvements too!

Crono` reviewed v6.8 on Aug 19, 2006

These catalyst releases are completely USELESS. I always install latest drivers and patches of everything BUT ATI'S SOFTWARE. Tip: trash CCC, and try "Ati Tray Tools": SAME settings AND MUCH MORE in only 500kb.

Skizelli reviewed v6.8 on Aug 19, 2006

I agree with Floodland and Descent on a lot of their points. I totally lost respect for ATI. Their drivers are useless. Apparently the people that don't think so don't play enough games to see that people like us are right. Or perhaps they don't bother reading the release notes. I used to look forward to updating Catalyst every new version, but now I don't bother. They break more than they fix. I too don't like CCC and I'm not installing .NET in order to use it. It's sad when customers have to result to using 3rd party like Omega's to get decent performance out of their drivers.

"This unified driver has been further enhanced to provide the highest level of power, performance, and reliability. The ATI CATALYST software suite is the ultimate in performance and stability."

That is a complete lie. For those looking to buy an ATI card, don't fall for it. Their cards are great, but the drivers are horrible. I'm definitely going Nvidia on my next purchase.

Alex Stevens reviewed v6.8 on Aug 19, 2006

Seems like every new release breaks more things than it fixes, ESPECIALLY compatibility with older Radeon cards. I guess they think that every one has already ran out to buy the latest glitzy Radeon on the shelf. Sorry, wrong. Also the CCC is a huge waste of their resources, all it does is look "pretty". It is not necessary and if AMD has any sense they will make them drop it and get back to concentrating on their drivers instead.

Floodland reviewed v6.8 on Aug 19, 2006

Pepaa you should start learning to read. My nick is "Floodland" not "Floodman".
Look at these 6.8 drivers! 90% of the "what's new" are fixes are for the Catalyst Crap Center!!
ATI is dedicating terrible efforts and time trying to make that crap work instead of improving the drivers. My review point that ATI is going to hell with CCC and I'm not the only one who think this way.
My PC runs great, I do tech support for many companies and I'm on the market for several years. I'm not happy that .NET sucks too much, but it does. Microsoft is working on version 3.0 but never had a WORKING set (1.1 is terrible and 2.0 isn't better). Microsoft is not going to die because they develop crap, in fact, they are very successfull doing it. But other smaller companies will die or lose reputation because of this "work". ATI gained good reputation with Catalyst drivers until they introduced CCC.
I'll stick with Omega drivers until I change my video card, and the next generation will NOT be ATI, until they show some respect for the customers and some brain choosing the development strategy. Nvidia is years ahead, unfortunately. I really like competition.

Descent reviewed v6.7 on Aug 12, 2006

Back in February 2004, I traded in my GeForce4 Ti 4200 128MB for a 9600XT 128MB. I really wanted the 5700 Ultra, but they were out of stock.

I got home, installed the card and drivers, and was won over nearly instantly. Not only did I get free Half-Life 2, but this thing was GORGEOUS.

Most amazing image quality EVER! The drivers had zero bugs, weren't bloated, and flawless!

Soon, I sold my 9600XT for a 9700 Pro. In October of 2005, I gave my still quite capable 9700 to a friend and bought an X800XL AGP 256MB.

What caused me to buy these three cards? The drivers. What caused me to recommend ATi to everyone I knew in that time? The drivers, dedication to customer satisfaction, superb image quality, cool running, non-heat hogging hardware, and great bang for the buck.

Now, every single one of those variables has gone wayside. The Catalyst Control Center is hopelessly broken. They stopped making drivers for Windows 2000 - I could care less though, I still run the old 5.2 drivers BECAUSE THEY WORK.

The 6.2 drivers cause JoNoF's Duke3D port, Descent II, and even ****ing zDoom to have HORRIBLE rendering glitches and artifacting. There are, like, two polygons on screen! And 64x64 textures! And it's STILL messing up!

The CCC is a joke and a far cry from the minimalist Control Panel. ATi decided that having a great panel that has been great since the final days of the Rage Pro just wasn't cutting it anymore, I mean, after all, most drivers look like a riced out Honda Civic. Let's follow suit.

Much like the Civic, the CCC is slow and rediculous. But I'm not talking a brand new Civic - I'm talking a 1985 Civic - these drivers break down and barely ever do as advertised.

Every new driver update brings more problems than fixes. It's like I paid $250 for a Realtek soundcard - that's how badly I feel ripped off here.

My next build will have an nVidia GeForce 7900GT in it. I am avoiding the Radeon X1K line at all costs.

Their newest drivers remind me of the pre-1999 Rage Pro drivers - pure garbage. Wait, why did ATi lose to 3Dfx and nVidia again? Oh, my bad, DRIVERS. Why didn't the Radeon take off immediately against the GeForce? DRIVERS. What kept people from buying the awesome Radeon 8500 at launch? DRIVERS.

ATi is a sham of a company, and they have lost every customer I know. My friends who got ATi upon my recommendation aren't mad at me - they got their hardware BEFORE ATi slacked off.

"Hey, we control nearly 50% of the market, why should we care?"

Desides reviewed v6.7 on Aug 1, 2006

The Catalyst line is much-improved over ATi's former driver offerings, but I can't bring myself to rate it a 5 based on the list of known and unresolved bugs.

pepaaa reviewed v6.7 on Jul 31, 2006

To Floodman: Get a life man!
Stop complaining about .net, I don't personally like it, but I don't see that as a problem. You should review the drivers, not moan about how bad everything is.. All I can say is - unless you have a messy PC, everything works just fine.

Floodland reviewed v6.7 on Jul 30, 2006

"The CCC is OPTIONAL people, stop spazzing out over it. If you don't want it don't download it."
As Ati discontinued releasing CP, CCC is NOT optional. It is a pathetic sign of a(nother) company that don't listen to their customers. They deal with Micro$oft to use that CRAPPY .NET framework and sh*t on who paid their cards. I will not buy nor reccommend another ATI card for a long time, even when quality graphics is superior on their hardware, your drivers are useless Fatware. As you don't care about what customers think I wont consider another Ati product for a really long time. Shame on you ATI. The only hope is if AMD reconsider the driver development as they showed listening to their customers for years.

BruddaMan reviewed v6.7 on Jul 30, 2006

IMPORTANT NOTE:

Cat 6.7 WITH THE CONTROL PANEL - NOT CCC - can be downloaded at the link given below. You can also get the 6.6, 6.5 and earlier versions with CP ONLY at that site.

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

As for the driver itself, Catalyst 6.7 causes a massive slowdown on my 2D desktop with my 9800 Pro and LCD.

If I go back to 6.3, it works fine. 6.7 makes using the 2D desktop in XP unusable for me.

Thanks for the info on the CAT with CP option. It is a great alternative. :)

Tyr3ll reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

Well hi there,i haven't personaly tested yet with CCC,but i know that we are much people who always prefer CP as well,so the best solution is to download this last one to the link below:
http://files.ngohq.com/a...t%206.7%20with%20CP.exe
Enjoy and have fun all ;)
Best regards...

Skyfrog reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

The CCC is OPTIONAL people, stop spazzing out over it. If you don't want it don't download it.

thezelda reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

Honestly, I think the ATI hardware is in the lead WRT performance and rendering quality. Will I ever buy another ATi product again, with or without AMD's merger with them: not unless they drastically improve the driver. It is horrible. Nvidia's drivers are way more stable and useable and dont have that disgusting CCC.

HurricaneGame reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

https://a248.e.akamai.ne...t_67_release_notes.html

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

Still crashes too much on my laptop.

Zygi reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

@yokozuna: you have to turn off ATI Global Hotkeys, thats why you don't have these shortcuts. You can either do this in CCC or in windows services, disable something like ATI Hotkey or something i don't remember exactly.

To the rest just live with it, .NET will be part of Vista and you won't have choice to install or not install, as you also know DX10 will be available only for Vista so if you want to play new games you don't have other way. NVIDIA also have similar control panel right now, but at least they give choice between new and old one.

purush reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

c4PNone the problem is you 'hugest' D minus for your english, all my programs work beautifully with the the latest drivers from ATI. CCC is a useful tool if you want to tweak a few things and set the drivers to work the way you want it to.

Niksa reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

In past, ATi learned some things from nVidia and started to make good drivers, now they switched back to production of crapy drivers :(

I will allways prefer stability and quality over few FPS and that's not what new (CCC) ATi drivers offer

Too bad for ATi :(

yokozuna reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

c4p0ne, you are very right. I will add a bit more: CCC remaps keyboard this way that it is IMPOSSIBLE to type in any word editor (Word, WordPerfect, OOo Writer, etc.) in Central European languages. Some shortcuts (right ALT plus certain characters) do not work anymore. One must edit the registry of his Windows to make it work. CCC sucks more than anything has ever sucked before!

Zygi: thanks for your kind advice, but believe me that it is not so simple, even if you switch off the shortcuts. I will call a spade a spade: ATI blew it terribly and should rethink a lot of things. The sooner the better. If not a lot of people will vote with their legs and wallets.

hugh750 reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

I recently purchased a radeon x1300 pro 256 med ddr agp and so far the catalyst 6.7 drivers work wonderfully.

c4p0ne reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

My HUGEST problem of ALL time with ATI is CCC. WHAT THE FVCK ON NATURES GREEN EARTH where they fvcking thinking when they decided to transform their good ol' installations to .NET? .NET is THE ANTICHRIST good software programming.

Slow, bloated, unstable, x2 and sometimes x3 times the memory then if it were programmed in native API. That's why their losing the battle. I hope this merger with AMD helps them finally wake the FVCK up and make some moves to get back on top of Nvidia where they belong.

wodez reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

FYI Skizelli: Justed wanted to point out that "Omega's ATI" drivers are excatly the sames as ATI's´own drivers. The only difference is that some registry settings are changed. Heck, even I could download ATI's drivers only, add ATI tray tools and make an installation package.

Both NVIDIA and ATI make good drivers but they tend to get a little bit bloated with all the gamespecifik bugfixes.

Axe56 reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

ATI catalyst drivers are always buggy for new cards... over time they patch and fix reported bugs, aiming for a stable driver set (eventually.) I have a 9800XT and each new patch the card runs flawlessly... ( Fear, oblivion, and many other graphic intense-games. In my opinion it's just the way ATI works...

CRT ftw! =p (LCD's have always had scaling issues... some patches get it, others don't.)

Skizelli reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

"This unified driver has been further enhanced to provide the highest level of power, performance, and reliability. The ATI CATALYST software suite is the ultimate in performance and stability."

Lies.

If people like bigsexy022870 weren't such fanboys of ATI, they'd see ATI's drivers for what they really are. Crap. Sure, they try to fix bugs. But while doing so, they introduce several new ones. Sorry bigsexy022870, but ATI cards aren't faster. NVidia's cards usually come out on top on benchmarks. I'm currently using an ATI card and I've never been happy with their drivers. At least Omega's ATI drivers make them bareable.

DudeBoyz reviewed v6.7 on Jul 29, 2006

FIRST, I do think the Catalyst Drivers themselves are actually pretty darn good. Not as good as Nvidia's still, but much better than the older versions. I still use RadLinker, which gives me the features the driver lacks, and that takes the pressure off for me. I also think it is almost UNFORGIVEABLE that their LCD scaling code is broken like it is. But for the most part, the games I have run without a hitch, which I guess is what matters most to me. The ATI Catalyst Drivers are NOT as bad as some people seem to say they are. But they don't walk on water either. :)

Am looking forward to a tweaked version that has the control panel instead of the CCC. These guys usually have them:

http://www.ngohq.com/hom...o=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

Release Notes are located HERE:

https://support.ati.com/...edge&questionID=640

Here is a blurb:

Issues Resolved in Catalyst® Software Suite 6.7
The following section provides a summary of the issues that are resolved in the latest release of Catalyst®. These include:

Oblivion: Enabling CrossFire™ and setting the display resolution to 1600x1200 no longer results in the game failing to respond when task switching under the Windows XP operating system. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22790

Quake4: Texture corruption is no longer noticed when playing the game. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22782

Installing an ATI Radeon® X1900 CrossFire™ master edition graphics card and and ATI Radeon® X1900 series secondary product on a system using a Dell 2405FPW and enabling CrossFire™ no longer results in the display device losing a signal or the 3D application or game exiting back to the desktop. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22664

Installing an ATI Radeon® X1x00 series of product on certain nVidia Nforce 4 platforms no longer results in the operating system failing to respond or the operating system exhibiting general instability when running 3D applications. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22378

Checking the Use centered timings in the notebook panel properties page no longer results in the apply button found in the Catalyst® Control Center becoming active, even though no options for change have been selected. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22774

Using the hot-key function to change an LCD display panel setting no longer results in the LCD Panel Properties found in the Catalyst® Control Center failing to be updated with the current setting 737-22342

The rotate desktop settings are no longer grayed-out in ATI Catalyst® Control Center when using the ATI Radeon® X1600 series products. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number. 737-22771

Doing a guest log-in user switch under Windows no longer results in a Catalyst® Control Center warning message appearing prior to launching the Catalyst® Control Center. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22773

Catalyst® Control Center: The background color no longer changes when clicking any control in the Adjustment pane under the Windows XP operating system when using an ATI Radeon® X1600 product. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22776

Using Catalyst® 6.3 or higher along with the MMC version 9.13 and performing a TV channel scan may result in some higher TV channels failing to be detected. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22381

Catalyst® Control Center: Running the OverDrive™ automated configuration utility no longer results in the default clock values being returned. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22779

The display mode of 1024x768 60Hz is now available when using connecting a Sony KV-27 using the HDMI connector on an ATI Radeon® X1x00 series of product. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22780

Rotation may fail to function properly when SurroundView is enabled on systems containing an ATI Xpress 200 series product. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22781

Windows XP starter edition: Malaysia: The ATI un-installer no longer displays a blank warning message it is clicked in the add and remove programs. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22783

Toggling between a full screen DOS session and a windowed mode DOS session no longer results in the display failing to respond and requiring a system re-boot to recover. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22784

An ATI Catalyst® Control Center dialog box indicating that the feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable is no longer displayed when attempting to install the display driver and Catalyst® Control Center under the Windows XP operating system when using an ATI Radeon® 1x00 series of product. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22785

Display corruption is no longer noticed when using the Catalyst® Control Center under the Windows XP operating system with an ATI Radeon® X1800 series installed. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22789

An incorrect product name is no longer displayed when using OpenGL renderer. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22795

Installing the Catalyst® Control Center under the Windows XP (French version) no longer results in text found within the Catalyst® Control Center being out of position. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22797

The OverDrive™ aspect found in the Catalyst® Control Center is no longer available for products that do not support the feature. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22355

Hotplugging a DFP display device to port number 2 on an ATI Radeon® X1800 product no longer results in the DFP display device defaulting to clone mode. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-22799

Known Issues for Catalyst® Software Suite 6.7
The following section provides a summary of open issues in the latest version of Catalyst®. These include:

Anarchy-Online: Screen corruption may be noticed when walking or running through the terrain. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22016

Battlefield 2: Attempting to launch the game under Windows XP with the in-game display setting at 1920x1440 or 2048x1536 and AA set to 6x may result in the game failing to launch. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22817

Cold War: Playing the game with the display resolution set to 1600x1200 along with AA set to 8x and CrossFire™ enabled may result in a ghosting effect being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21661

Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth: Playing the game under Windows XP SP2 using an ATI Radeon® X800 series product may result in intermittent display corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21458

Neverwinter Nights: Playing the game under Windows XP on a system containing an ATI Radeon® X800 series, may result in the game exiting to the Windows desktop and an error message being displayed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21466

Path of Neo: Texture corruption may be noticed when playing the Kung Fu level. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21464

Sniper Elite: Playing the game under Windows XP with an ATI Radeon® X1600 series installed may result in texture corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22820

Tomb Raider: Enabling CrossFire™ and setting AA to 12x and AF to 16x may result in corruption being noticed when playing the game on a system containing an ATI Radeon® X1800 series. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22811

World of Warcraft: Playing the game for an extended period of time may result in the game failing to respond when using a Radeon® X800. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22632

The Apply button in the Custom settings of the Advanced mode, found within the Catalyst® Control Center Video standard settings, is grayed out when playing a media file. Further details can be found in topic number 737-497

Connecting an HDTV to an ATI Radeon® X700 series may result in the HDTV being detected as a CRT or TV under the Windows XP operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20783

The PAL FM fine tuning algorithm is currently using 200 MHz bandwidth which may overlap FM channels resulting in the same FM channel being found several verdana during the scan function. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20979

Connecting two display devices to an ATI Radeon® X1600 series product may result in the device manager failing to detect the secondary display device. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21266

Display corruption may be noticed when configuring the DTV channel to 1080i broadcast when using an ATI HDTV Wonder. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21455

The LG P42SX DVI-D display device fails to display an image when connected to an ATI Radeon® 9000, ATI Radeon® 9200, or an ATI Radeon® 9250. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21456

OpenGL Extension Viewer: 2.0: Running the Rendering tests may result in a black box appearing when the fog option is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21457

Connecting an HDTV as the secondary display device and enabling Theater mode may result in HDTV failing to display an image when attempting to playback a movie with extended desktop mode enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21460

The IBM T84H display device may fail to display an image when connected to the DVI connector on the ATI Radeon® X800 or X850 series. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21462
Attempting to re-enable any display device other than the primary or secondary display device that has been disabled by CrossFire™, may result in the operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21663

Using the ATI Multimedia Center to watch TV may result in the operating system restarting when using an ATI Radeon® X1800 series product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22013

The Record function currently fails to work when using an ATI All-In-Wonder X1300 with time-shifting enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22014

Using the ATI Multimedia Center to watch TV may result in the operating system restarting when using an ATI Radeon® X1800 series product. Further information on this issue can be found in topic number 737-22013

Changing the regional option found in the control panel to Japan followed by installing the display driver results in the TV format failing to change in accordance with the regional option 737-22631

Catalyst® Control Center: Entering the OverDrive™ aspect and changing the GPU setting to 509 and the memory setting to 505 results in color corruption and the Windows XP operating system rebooting 737-21229

Selecting the Plus Da Vinci screen saver and attempting to preview it may result in the screen saver not displaying properly after an extended preview 737-22634

Playing a DVD for an extended period of time when using the Windows Media Player on a system containing an ATI Xpress 11x0 series of product may result in the operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22801

Playing a DVD using WinDVD on a system containing either an ATI Radeon® X1600 or X1300 product may result in corruption being noticed when changing the display resolution to either 1900x1200 or 1280x720. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22805

Enabling CrossFire™ may result in display corruption being noticed when playing a DVD or media clip using either WinDVD 7, Windows Media Player or PowerDVD 6. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22806

Hot Plugging an HDMI TV to the DVI port of an ATI Radeon X19x0 series may result in the HDMI detection message box failing to appear under the Windows Media Center Edition operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22809

Playing back a media file using Windows Media Player 11 on a system containing an ATI Radeon® X1600 or X1300 series of products may result in missing colors and or macroblock corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22810

Selecting same as source video option in the Japanese version of the Catalyst® Control Center may result in the selection failing to be applied when using an ATI Radeon® X1800 series product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22813

Playing an MPEG2 video clip on a system running Windows XP and containing an ATI Radeon® X1x00 product may result in corruption being noticed during the playback of the MPEG2 file. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22814

bigsexy022870 reviewed v6.7 on Jul 28, 2006

Seems like people who dont know jack always bash new driver versions. Sure no one likes CCC, big deal. Learn how to turn off the stuff that loads at startup, or buy a better pc. You can't install anything these days without some sort of program being started up at bootup. So learn how to use a PC and turn the stuff off. New driver versions address both performance issues and plain old bugs that need fixing. If you don't like new versions dont download them and shut up. Being a hardcore gamer, i need every FPS i can get. So I try the new drivers and if they are better I'm happy. If not i reinstall older ones. Nothing to complain about, at least they try to make stuff work better. You could always go buy a Nvidia card that is slower. And they are, they always have been. Nvidia's answer to the Radeon 1900 XTX wasn't to build a faster card but to put two cores on one card. That's really nice but it isn't progress. And when ATI releases a dual core card it will once again blow away Nvidia.

Skizelli writes that ATI sucks yet he owns a ATI card and said the drivers and card work great. So basically he's a idiot that doesnt know if he likes something or hates something. If ATI sucks why do you own a ATI card. What a moron. And to also state that Nvidia always wins in the benchmarks is the biggest load of crap i've ever heard. Tomshardware has has a great benchmark that proves my point. The X1900 XTX gets 38fps in Call of duty 2 while Nvidia 7800 GTX gets only 26 FPS. By the way SLI only wins by 3 FPS. And the rest of the games are very similar. F.E.A.R. Shows just how bad Nvidia really is cause a Single ATI X1900 XTX beats everything, even SLI. I could go on, but i dont need to.

You don't have to like ATI, but they are better. Talk all the crap you want. The proof is in the games. I know what it's like to like something and want to brag that it's better when you know it really isnt. So i can understand you SAD NVIDIA LOVERS WHO DON'T KNOW JACK. Sorry guys, you need to smell the coffee.

doncanz reviewed v6.7 on Jul 28, 2006

I have an AIW X800 it is performing the best it ever has. Benchmark scores are up approx 5-8% across the board. As for bloatware concerns from the CCC and ATI tray tools if you have a decent processor and memory this is not even a concern.
Thanks ATI!

julesjpd2004 reviewed vBeta 2 on Jul 19, 2006

As M^3 states, these drivers have been available since May and are hardly a new Beta release. Personally I think ATI are not doing so well because peaople have had endless problems with these drivers and Vista and they have done nothing to rectify the situation. Also note that these drivers are for a much older Beta of Vista and there have been several Betas since they were released. I was one among many, many people to try and contact ATI regarding their incompatabilities and am most disapointed to find that their "new" Beta release is none of the sort.

M^3 reviewed vBeta 2 on Jul 19, 2006

I was excited to see this up on Betanews until I realized these were the same drivers ATI has had up since 05/23/06. I have had a few issues with them. I only got a black screen when I tried to set my resolution to my LCD panel's native rez (multiple times, requiring a reboot), but even weirder was that when I booted in "640x480" from the boot options menu, I got my monitor's native resolution that I was trying very hard to get but couldn't. Yes, they are Beta and the label fits.

roj reviewed v6.6 on Jul 11, 2006

Pure crap. Like the 6.5 drivers, they will not exceed 640x480x16 on my 9550. 6.4 does so with no problems. QA on these drivers is going back to the pre-Catalyst days. ATI is no longer on my buying radar.

ONE star.

Let's see if this post gets edited too.

theheff reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

Installed in x64 Windows, works flawlessly. I used to be hardcore Omega but this version by ATI has passed it up. My card is a x850xt. Don't give it a bad rating unless you actually TRY it!

nilst2006 reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

Completely worthless drivers - if You have a flatscreen !!! Do not install !!!! (I'm running XP x64 and the drivers for that platform is the worst ever !!!)

Blaxima reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

These drivers minus the bloated CCC with ATI Tray Tools instead works better than the Omega drivers for me. Does not slow my system and has gotten rid of an odd little problem I had with the last release that didn't display correctly when my LCD monitor would come back on from stand by.

johnk119 reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

Poor Drivers

DudeBoyz reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

LCD Scaling just flat out does not seem to work right in these drivers.

I can use my Nvidia card with the latest Nvidia drivers and choose to have it CENTERED in the standard control panel, and all non-native resolutions appear properly, with black bars on all 4 sides.

No matter what I use, the old ATI control panel or the new CCC, when I configure the driver not to scale, the ATI driver doesn't respond as expected.

Native 1600x1200 - set it to 800x600 - it is edge to edge, for example. But with the Nvidia driver, it shows 800x600 centered - if I so choose.

Why ATI can't make LCD scaling work is beyond me. It has not worked in a long, long time. Forum posts on other sites like Rage 3D show people have been submitting this problem for years, but there is STILL no fix. Bummer.

MikeDiack reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

I'm disappointed - it now looks like they've dropped support for anything earlier than the Radeon 9500 in this release... Time will tell if this is a new trend or just a blip with this release.
Can anyone else comment?

Rebell reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

INFO:
Fear performance improves as much as 8.5% on X1800 and X1900 Single card systems and as much as 14% on X1800 and X1900 Crossfire systems.

yokozuna reviewed v6.6 on Jun 27, 2006

roj, Catalyst 6.6 behave exactly the same :-( My friend called me yesterday to inform me about problems (BSODs) when he installed the drivers. He uses a Sapphire 9600. I checked the drivers and my friend is right. However, I have no problems with my graphic card (Sapphire 1600) when the driver is installed.

HurricaneGame reviewed v6.6 on Jun 26, 2006

Yay!

https://a248.e.akamai.ne...t_66_release_notes.html

Adrian79 reviewed v6.6 on Jun 26, 2006

goodstuff

roj reviewed v6.5 on Jun 6, 2006

These drivers are strange. On my wife's 9250 they work perfectly. On my 9550 with a fresh Windows XP / SP2 install, they won't get out of 640x480x16. That's just wrong. The 6.4 drivers have no problems. I installed Windows twice to make sure that the problem was repeatable. It is.

ATI has serious testing to do.

THREE stars for unpredictability and lack of proper testing.

stisev reviewed v6.5 on Jun 1, 2006

Thx Tyr3ll

ATi has some frikken nerve with its crappy CCC

Tyr3ll reviewed v6.5 on May 26, 2006

Well at first,i know that many of us search desesperately catalyst 6.5 with CP,and then,i have a good news,you all can find it to:
http://files.ngohq.com/a...t%206.5%20with%20CP.exe
Works really great so far as well!
Anyway CCC sucks and takes too much memory so far as we know!
Enjoy and have fun....
Best regards....

abadaba reviewed v6.5 on May 26, 2006

Couldnt play BF1942...kept crashing too desktop...reverted back too 6.4...and it started working again...Ive just had a bad experience with ATI and new releases...

hook_ reviewed v6.5 on May 25, 2006

Yet another broken driver set. Thanks for wasting my f***ing time. Well, back to older drivers. And now i know that every second release is somehow broken.

sQin reviewed v6.5 on May 25, 2006

mjm01010101, no updates required?
many gamefixes come with new driver versions

asellus reviewed v6.5 on May 25, 2006

If you need to wait 3-5 minutes just to reboot, something is wrong with your computer. Please use Spybot/Ad-aware/Windows Defender etc. to clean up all the spyware junks that slows your computer start-up.

Maybe your computer need reformatting.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.5 on May 25, 2006

Yeah extremely convenient:
Uninstall old drivers: 5 minutes. Reboot. Wait 3-4 minutes for the reboot. login, wait for dialog box: which are cryptic to non admins, install new drivers, reboot, wait 3-4 minutes.

So all in all it's taken up 15-20 minutes of your life to do it the "official" method. Multiply by 12 months a year. The unofficial method: install over the old ones, works seemingly well except when it doesnt: say 9700 and earlier drivers.

long term goal: one/two updates a year, no update required.
Done.
Until then: 3 stars, max. Same goes for nvidia. This is 2006 folks.

theheff reviewed v6.5 on May 25, 2006

Installed the x64 version.... everything works perfect. And if you think the entire package is bloated, you can choose to only install the driver and not the control center... so there should be no complaining about that; it's optional. I noticed that my performance increased slightly from 6.4 to 6.5 for my Radeon x850xt card. Lately these newer drivers have been outperforming the Omega drivers quite a bit... so I switched over. Excellent drivers.

improvelence reviewed v6.5 on May 24, 2006

Im sorry but if you have problems installing these drivers then you are doing something wrong. I upgrade these drivers on 15 pc's at work with each upgrade and I have NEVER ran into any issues. Most problems are probably do to you not uninstalling the previous drivers, rebooting then installing the new ones. ATI has an extremely convenient driver system as does NVIDIA and Creative. The ATI driver for linux is very annoying though, but then again you should follow the directions. I WILL say though, that the Catalyst control center is uneeded bloat, but once I got used to it it wasnt so bad...still really unneeded though....but thats why someone made ATI Tray tools.

debugged reviewed v6.5 on May 24, 2006

Like the last 3-4 versions this doesn't install properlry leaving the dispay stuck in 16 color (4 bit) VGA resolution. Installing again fixes this but this time the second install hangs and I shut it down and the computer reboots into a blue screen of death. 3rd time it installs and CC (CrapCenter) crashes with some .NET error when I try to look at monitor settings. Have to reboot again to get CC to do anything.

So when eventually it is installed it seems to be just another helping of the same old crap. I could spend half an our describing what is wrong with CrapCenter it is obviously designed by morons, although calling it designed at all is being generous.

CyberHobo reviewed v6.5 on May 24, 2006

Excellent driver.

Skizelli reviewed v6.4 on Apr 23, 2006

Do you really think ATI cares about what its customers want? Keep wishing.

bigsexy022870 reviewed v6.4 on Apr 13, 2006

I love my AIW X800 XT but i hate the catalyst bloat. I know how to deactivate the run at startup bloat which eliminates the issue but I don't feel i should have to do this. There should be a option to run just the display driver and not all the crap they think you need. Honestly who uses it. Not to mention the memory hit you have to take to run it. It serves no use at all to the performance of the card. Thus if they are listening they really need to change it.

smith288 reviewed v6.4 on Apr 13, 2006

Is it not too much to ask not to make the control panel a bloated mess? Why not just let it be a Display properties snap in ala nVidia?

I like ATI otherwise. Just trash the needless eye candy for their control panel to allow for modification.

bourgeoisdude reviewed v6.4 on Apr 13, 2006

I like being objective about things. I haven't used ATI cards in ages in my PCs, but the ones that I assist with (im a pc support guy) work flawlessly with this driver. This is the first driver since the early 5.xx series drivers in MY experience that is rock-solid. My main reason for choosing NVIDIA these years is not that the cards are necessarily better, but because the drivers are.

I might just consider that x1900xt card now, since the drivers work so well this time around. ATI has reclaimed enough of my confidence for me to finally give them another chance. They better not let me down...

Skyfrog reviewed v6.4 on Apr 13, 2006

No problems at all. UTAKER, Banquo was talking about the .NET framework and why it's not a bad thing, he said it would be part of Vista. He did not say that these drivers were for Vista. Read carefully before you jump on people.

pyridox reviewed v6.4 on Apr 13, 2006

I have several ATi Radeon cards running, both at home & at work, and they are great. I also use the All-in-Wonder Elite video capture cards. We use only ATi drivers for all of the cards, and not third party drivers.

For those that don't understand software, the Catalyst control panel uses the Microsoft .NET framework to run. Many software packages use the .NET framework, which is at version 2.0 now also. The plain vanilla video driver doesn't need .NET, it's the Catalyst control panel, etc. that needs it. Even programs like; Print Master & Printshop Deluxe require .NET framework. .NET is simply a software framework.

MS Vista is still in Beta, so the drivers are primarily tweaked for Windows XP.

UTAKER reviewed v6.4 on Apr 13, 2006

Reality check Banquo.
These drivers are for XP and not Vista and XP is most widely used these days.

Blaxima reviewed v6.4 on Apr 12, 2006

I think people are not really testing the software at all sometimes.

With the last 2(I can say for sure) releases by ATI and Omega, I have had a noticeable
difference on my system. The ATI's are outperforming the Omegas. Now maybe other people still prefer the Omegas for one reason or another but the facts are that ATI's releases are not a 1 star and they should be rated based on their performance.
I'm giving a 4 to them including the CCC which I really dont mind but I do think it could be a little less clunky and salesman like. It also takes as much time as firefox to load and that aint good!

Tenoq reviewed v6.4 on Apr 12, 2006

Yay for moronic reviewers blaming ATi for their bad system configuration. Fix your freaking machine then come and review the damn software. :P

-Lord- reviewed v6.4 on Apr 12, 2006

with all my ATI cards, the Omegas simply blow the Catalysts away

theheff reviewed v6.4 on Apr 12, 2006

Honestly, the new ATI drivers are outperforming the Omega drivers on any given day (at least on my machine, with a x850xt). I love the 64-bit support (download it seperately at www.ati.com). Overall, very pleased with the package. I used to be a die-hard omega fan, but the performance just doesn't cut it anymore.

Banquo reviewed v6.4 on Apr 12, 2006

Good grief people. (1) You do not have to install the Catalyst Control Center. The drivers do not require it and they can be downloaded seperately. (2) If you need a control panel (most people don't) you can still use the older ATI control panel or any of the third party ones available. (3) .NET is not required for the standalone driver itself, and .NET is not evil anyway. It won't hurt you and someday you WILL have to install it. More and more programs require it and Vista will ship with it as part of the OS. In other words lighten up and stop making a big thing out of nothing.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.4 on Apr 12, 2006

Must be my setup, but again, on my work machine, the installer just disappears, and no status is given on the completion of the install. I *cannot* wait to get rid of this card.

Zoroaster reviewed v6.3 on Mar 14, 2006

I couldn't agree more with foxtyke. I will definetly abandon ATI drivers because of it's dishonest policy making an obligation to have .NET installed in order to install new drivers. What does ATI think? Who the hell do they think they are? Obligations are out of fashion, and ATI is no God: I'm OFF with ATI and its nonsense.
Being obliged to have .NET in odrer to install video drivers! Mama mia! Move off, ATI, move off!!!

foxtyke reviewed v6.3 on Mar 10, 2006

I have an ATI card in my system, I usually would recommend ATI graphics cards to people but... with the reliance upon a marketing gimmick, namely .NET, I will no longer do so.

My existing drivers will remain until either I upgrade the graphics card, nVidia sounds nice and, I will now start recommending nVidia graphics cards to people who ask what I recommend.

Why? .NET is a gimmick, a bloated, overhyped and extremely slow and pointless gimmick and it should not have anything to do with my graphics card drivers.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.3 on Mar 10, 2006

Did not complete the install. I had to reboot and install again.

stisev reviewed v6.3 on Mar 10, 2006

I will never buy another ATI product again until CP is reinstated and CCC is dumped as the secondary item.

BOYCOTT ATI

improvelence reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

CCC pisses me off, but I dont see where people have so much trouble installing these drivers. I dont like the Omega drivers at all so the best thing to do is install these and then use ATI tray tools or whatever it's called (at work and cant remember). Eff control center...eff it in its a.

EDIT:
Someone else already pointed out the wonderful ATI try tools.

yokozuna reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

I agree that CCC is a bad idea, esp. for CE languages (e.g. some Polish characters are not available after the installation of the CCC drivers). For all those, who prefer ol' good CP: http://www.station-drive...6.3-2kxp-cc-cp-whql.exe The file is large in size (60 megabytes) because it is a combo driver, international and with additional ATI programs. It is intended for system integrators, and officially NOT supported by ATI.

stopbuggingme reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

ATI Control Center Crew remain without clue.

CCC sucks as much as ever.

Why is the new AVIVO video converter only accessible from the control center? What the hell does video file format conversion have to do with control of a graphics adapter?

Then it gets worse, why is the AVIVO video converter only available in control center basic mode. What kind of idiot designs a tool with basic and advanced interface options and leaves functionality out of the advanced version?

The kind of idiot the Catalyst Control Center Crew is made from.

Skyfrog reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

I think I say this with every release, but the old control panel still works! All you have to do is download and install it. So much complaining over nothing, but it's ATI's fault really. They should see that everyone wants the old control panel and hate the new one, but maybe they don't want to listen.

LRN reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

Good drivers.
BTW, Omega (or DNA) driver WILL NOT GIVE YOU any notiteable performance boost (i tested myself, they improve 3DMark rating by 0.1%).
Don't like Catalyst Control Center? DON'T INSTALL (AND DON'T USE) IT!
Install yourself AtiTrayTools (from http://www.guru3d.com/article/atitraytools/189/ ) and live happy everafter!
CCC may be bad, but drivers themselves is OK. Don't blame them.

ModderXManiac reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

"Vaya pedazo de mierda... Me quedo con la version 5.11...

Control center es la mejor versión, con esta te clavan el .NET Framework de mierda...

ATI ves despidiendote de mi... mi proxima grafica sera nVIDIA..."

This guy gave a 1/5 for ATI; he described how much it sucks in SPANISH!

Omega drivers all the way, DNA are quite buggy for me. I don't consider .NET bloat as I use it for several apps, but for it to be required for graphics drivers is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

I'd like to go over to nVidia with how well their drivers have always been, but they are making crap cards...

TerryHau reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

If you have the ugly slow control centre already, unintall it from add/remove programs, and you'll be back to normal control panel.

Next time when you download a new driver, instead of getting the 30+mb package, get the 10mb "display driver only". And you wont have the crap .NET control centre that lags your pc for 2 mins at startup and takes 10 minutes to run.

Skizelli reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

ATI blows now. They don't care about what their customers want, nor will they give us a choice. I don't want to use Microsoft's .NET bulls***, yet they force their customers to do so. Thank god for Omega's drivers. My next card is definitely going to be an nVidia. I'm so done with ATI. With each release of their drivers, they break more than they fix. Candadian bas****s.

sQin reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

big slow and ugly UI. Why 3rd party drivers (Omega, DNA) give better performance, more features, dont load unnecessary s**t into ram?

johnk119 reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

I prefer the omega driver set www.omegadrivers.net they're tweaked for gaming and dont require nearly as much memory to run... also as we all know the catalyst config panel is written in .net which means it uses a ton of memory and is slow responding

Bixente reviewed v6.3 on Mar 9, 2006

Infested with Net bloatware.

mantene reviewed v6.2 on Mar 4, 2006

Never had problems with ATI drivers before this release. I installed these drivers and began getting a message each time i rebooted my computer saying that my registry had to be recovered using a backup or log file. At first I didn't connect it to the driver but Once I removed the driver the error went away. Put it back on and the error came back. What gives! So I am back using 6.1

UTAKER reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

are drivers really meant to be 30MB in size and getting more heavier with every release and slowing the PC down?

It does not matter how good the hardware is if the drivers sux and these DO sux.

And what ATI guys seem to be so secretive about is leeching of their drivers, that you can not resume downloads from their servers since the download can expire! too bad for anyway with a bad internet connection or slow one.

hook_ reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

Goddammit... After using ATI products for several years, these drivers (6.2) were the first one that gave nice graphical errors in desktop mode. And here comes the best part. Whole system was slow as hell. I had to convert back to 6.1. What the hell has happened to ATI? I don't mind using .Net and Catalyst Control Centre, but releasing crappy non-working drivers like these are unacceptable. ATI, you got to climb up from the s***hole you have created.

Skyfrog reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

I think this has been pointed out a hundred times before but may as well say it again; you don't have to use the new control center, and the old control panel from previous drivers versions still works fine. It is not driver specific. You can still use it with the new drivers.

Argente reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

Vaya pedazo de mierda... Me quedo con la version 5.11...

Control center es la mejor versión, con esta te clavan el .NET Framework de mierda...

ATI ves despidiendote de mi... mi proxima grafica sera nVIDIA...

markus10018 reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

Use only the display driver and ATI Tray Tools and you're set. There is no need for CP oder CCC. BTW: NVIDIA's control panel is much better. Shame on you ATI!

stopbuggingme reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

Another release and Control Center remains unaviodable and gets worse.

The overdrive configurator now consistently crashes my system (didn't used to) and barely warms the GPU so it's rubbish anyway.

I can't set it to not overdrive for 3D apps only and it seems windowed 3D apps don't count as 3D apps.

After changing overdrive clocks the Preserve settings at logingbox is greyed until you switch to a different panel and switch back.

I went back to 6.1, in 6.1 I can't set it to not overdrive always - lol.

How many more years and Megabytes are the Cataylst Control Center Crew going to take to make a checkbox work properly?

Sabz reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

ATI cards are better in a linux Envirement than a Windows OS IMO , but i have not had any problems with ATI, since i dont playu games, .only dripe about ATI is s***ty DVI support

crashoverride reviewed v6.2 on Feb 10, 2006

I'l stick with Omega Drivers thank you.

Floodland reviewed v6.2 on Feb 9, 2006

Again, ATI seems to ignore customers and keep developing CCC (catalyst crap control). Highly bloated, slow as hell. I hope omegadrivers keep they good work because I'm loosing my hope on ATI. And that's mean I will NOT buy an ATI card for a long time. Good reputation is hard to make and easy to lose. ATI is losing it FAST.
Ati, OPEN YOUR EYES and bring back the Control Panel, can't you understand that you are destroying your reputation with CCC??

tipsyboy reviewed v6.2 on Feb 9, 2006

Not a review - a note for ModderXManiac:
========================================

Man, please don't link to ATI site pages like you do here, cause people won't just get but a anti-leech page. thanx.

I gave up using any newer ATI driver. Tried official ones and Omega about 10 times or more. I am really p... off by all the crap that won't work properly. WOn't buy any ATI card next time.
So why should I try a third "tweaked" one? Give me one reason for it...

Mumoto reviewed v6.2 on Feb 9, 2006

I have no problems with the drivers, games work perfectly for me and I don't trust those DNA and Omegadrivers, if they destroy my graphics-card I won't have any insurance on it.

Nor will they pay it back so... I'd rather stick with the original since i'm fine with them :)

ModderXManiac reviewed v6.2 on Feb 9, 2006

Crap drivers.

Bloated and unreliable.

Welcome to the world of "thinking" computer users; use DNA, get a brain, and a better computing expierience.

http://www.dna-drivers.com
Release notes for this "Official" Catalyst release, if you care... https://a248.e.akamai.ne...t_62_release_notes.html

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.2 on Feb 9, 2006

No issues this time. Still has a long list of known issues. Oh well, modern times and complexities I suppose.

microFawad reviewed v6.1 on Jan 21, 2006

I am always intrested in drivers only.

roj reviewed v6.1 on Jan 21, 2006

I capitulate. No issues installing on two of my systems. Given that .Net is more or less everywhere, I guess i have to get with the program.

FIVE stars.

hugh750 reviewed v6.1 on Jan 21, 2006

It seems to work just fine on my radeon 9600 card.

theheff reviewed v6.1 on Jan 21, 2006

Too buggy for my liking.. I'm running an x850xt and there are definitely issues... like all my text is italicized now for some reason.... as far as game performance, it appears to be about the same.

mjm01010101 reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

Install froze on one of my systems. After reboot it worked fine.

Banquo reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

It's not a version number in the sense you are thinking. The 6 is for 2006 and 1 means the first release this year. For those who hate the new control panel (like me) be aware that the control panel from older versions still works fine.

midfingr reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

Umm. I know it's only a number, but 6.1?
@Banquo
Thank you! Now I get it :)

Anyway. The drivers work fine. I just set what I want in CCC and use startupCPL -

http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

Also. Anyone that uses ATI MMC, there's an update to 9.13.

Adrian79 reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

man i LOVE control center!! (yes i disagree with the ret***s below)

before control center my graphics were dark and there was no "gamma control" and my old card was usless...bingo then they released control center..and now things are just PERFECT!

rseiler reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

The description should be updated, as the Control Panel is not included. The final version of it was 5.12, which does continue to work with the newer drivers.

http://support.ati.com/i...ntID=737&deptID=894

Argente reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

Puta mierda!!!!!!!

Panel Control YA!!!!!

ajiva reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

Or you could download the drivers from:

http://www.omegadrivers.net/

And not worry about the control panel

Doubledoom reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

Install 5.10 with control panel. Then uninstall (via add remove) but leave the control panel option installed. Then install the newer drivers but not with the CC. That way you get to keep your control panel.

sixpac reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

I wish they would dump the CCC..

I like the old version better (not sure why its not an option anymore). Also I have two video cards in my computer and the 2nd one is a PCI ATI card. The new drivers don't like the old card. :(

alberta expediter reviewed v6.1 on Jan 20, 2006

Does anyone have another link for the drivers, my host file is blocking the download page for the drivers.

knivez reviewed v5.13 on Dec 29, 2005

What were they thinking when they dumped the good old control panel goes beyond my comprehension. I DON'T WANT or NEED the highly bloated .NET framework on my system; and certainly ATi just lost points in my book for forcing we, the consumers, to use a heavy third-party framework just to set up a hardware component such as the graphics card.

I wasn't sure of what brand to get since i'm about to upgrade soon. Now i'm pretty much certain im going with Nvidia this time.

Moodles reviewed v5.13 on Dec 25, 2005

I think this news item is a little inaccurate, there is no Control Panel in version 5.13 I'm 100% sure, we are forced instead to use the Catalyst Control Center aka CCC. I can't comment on 5.12 at all.

But if anyone does want the old control panel back for good, I have started an online petition to get ATi to bring back our beloved Control Panel as an option.

http://www.petitiononlin.../ctrlpanl/petition.html

Dural reviewed v5.13 on Dec 23, 2005

In a word, horrid. Using the regular 5.10 drivers/control panel, my system used about 100MB after booting...with the 5.13 CCC's, it shoots up to around 250MB! Not only that, but the Catalyst A.I. didn't give me a performance boost, I lost 10 FPS in the Source stress test.

Thankfully I had the foresight to image my partition with Acronis beforehand, I'll be reverting and looking for other 3rd party options, like the Omega drivers. I'll be going Nvidia for my next card.

sigloiv reviewed v5.13 on Dec 22, 2005

I really like the Catalyst drivers. I think that they've improved quite steadily over the last year or two. The Control Center has an intuitive interface and provides an easy way to compare differences on quality on different options.

Also, if you really know what you're doing you can set up the CC to only load the runtime when you open the drivers. Just take it out of your Run folder in the registry...

ssb reviewed v5.13 on Dec 22, 2005

Drop that damned bloated .NET garbage from drivers. Most people don't want this huge runtime installed in their machines.

goofydave reviewed v5.13 on Dec 22, 2005

I know this is Cat 5.13 but for all those who have mentioned the old Control Panel ATi does have 5.12 with the standard control panel @ http://support.ati.com/i...ntID=737&deptID=894

bmh67wa reviewed v5.13 on Dec 22, 2005

Gimme back the Control Panel! Guess I'll just go back to 5.10. It was working fine for me anyway.

OCedHrt reviewed v5.13 on Dec 22, 2005

Just install the control panel from 5.10. The CP in 5.11 was the same as 5.10, so I'd assume that in 5.12, it's also the same one as 5.10.

Skizelli reviewed v5.13 on Dec 22, 2005

The truth is that a lot of people just don't need the .NET environment. I don't program nor do I use any .NET applications. And I don't like how .NET takes over my system. I think developers, M$ drones or not, are jacking off to .NET more than anyone else. And for ATI to take away our choice with these drivers is crap. My next card is definitely going to be an Nvidia. Canada can't do anything right.

.NET is crap. Period.

roj reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

I'm not in favor of the CCC. I want the control panel back. For that I give these drivers a ONE.

HOWEVER:

I've had it up to here with the gadfly ".NET is MS and therefore EVIL" BS. Those twits saying that simply don't understand the architecture, nor do they clue into what it means for the industry and the inevitability that ALL software vendors of note are embracing this platform because of its VERY tangible benefits (read: "cost savings bringing applications to market"). This includes even the Linux and Mac crews.

Get your heads out of the sand, get past the typical juvenile anti-MS prattle and take a good hard look at the platform and what it offers and you'll see that it is the future - period. This isn't opinion - it's fact.

To ATI:

You're ignoring your customers.

Get a grip.

stisev reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

If I could rate this -5, I would

BRING BACK THE CONTROL PANEL!

rawd reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

Yep wait for Omega drivers instead of subjecting yourself to the CCC (there is absolutely no reason you should need .NET framework installed for basic driver funcionality).

And this is definitely my last ATI card ever, you guys are complete incompetants.

DrTeeth reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

For those who want the CP version, d/l the drivers for the Fire 2200/2400 PCI card. They have the CP, or at least the 5.12 drivers did. The 5.13 is not yet out for these boards.

Floodland reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

ATI please forget the terrible CCC. Following M$ that way is not good for your company: You are wasting your customer resources and I paid for your hardware!
And I paid for quality, not to be Micro$oft beta tester for bad ideas (M$ framework is a pathetic idea). ATI made a wise choice with the development of Catalyst unified drivers, but you can lose market share fast, not for inferior product line, but for your bloated drivers. Why are you wasting time in develop drivers for non existant OSs? Vista is too far away, CCC is crap.
Omega drivers are pretty good, keep working with that guy, not for the evil corp.

yokozuna reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

Actually no one needs any control panel anymore. Just install the drivers (only!!!) and ATI Tray Tools. It is more than enough.

normr reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

Everyone just be calm and wait for the Omega Drivers version!

danilloOc reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

Ok, now this is bad, i can't find a version with Control Panel, the Control Center version is HORRIBLE and waist of memory, i can't believe ATI will force us to use this lame Control Center.

Argente reviewed v5.13 on Dec 21, 2005

goofydave podrias decirme la ruta, no la descarga, a seguir para encontrar los drivers de ATI 5.12 o 5.13 de control center??

goofydave you can say the route to me, not the unloading, to follow to find drivers of ATI 5,12 or 5,13 of control to center?

eblade reviewed v5.12 on Dec 9, 2005

Exactly what is the problem with removing the control panel? The CCC is more functional, and easier to use. (Omega's Tray Tool is better, but that's not really either here or there)

The changes seem to indicate good performance improvements. Any one have specifics on it? I won't be in a position to reboot for another 8-10 hours, so I'll submit a different review afterwards.. (sorry for using this as a bulletin board temporarily)

MikeDiack reviewed v5.12 on Dec 9, 2005

Quick question to Banquo:

I'm very grateful for the pointer to the control panel version you gave a link to.

I'm just very curious as to how you found it?

Mike

Banquo reviewed v5.12 on Dec 9, 2005

Calm down everyone, the control panel version is here: http://support.ati.com/i...ntID=737&deptID=894

Someone else found it and they didn't say how; I looked all overy ATI's site and could not find it myself, it must have been very well hidden. I finally came across the link on another message board.

jasonj reviewed v5.12 on Dec 9, 2005

Removing the Control Panel is the last straw with ATI. I will never buy another ATI card.

BiggFatty reviewed v5.12 on Dec 9, 2005

Oops, they took the Control Panel out! Ok, someone found the link later on, that's better.

bradja reviewed v5.12 on Dec 8, 2005

With CCC instead of CP I lose the ability to toggle screen rotation. Reverted to previous driver with CP.

roj reviewed v5.12 on Dec 8, 2005

No CP.

Just CCC.

I don't care if the core driver is stable - I want the full range of choices because I prefer not to use the CCC.

ONE star for removing a viable and valuable user choice.

DudeBoyz reviewed v5.12 on Dec 8, 2005

I hate the CCC. What a total waste! The old control panel worked awesome, and it sucks that they take that choice away from you now. On my two rigs with ATI cards, CCC is always buggy and slow. Even if the core driver is stable and functional, the lack of a lean, stable control panel is just a horrible thing.

Astro-SII reviewed v5.12 on Dec 8, 2005

being forced to install the CCC is crap.... I want the old CP.

rijp reviewed v5.12 on Dec 8, 2005

No Problems here. Solid performance, great as ever. I think people that have problems, are because you aren't reverting the changes to default then reset them to what you like...

After the new driver is installed..

Sybs reviewed v5.11 on Nov 14, 2005

Roj,
The .NET framework 2.0 is supposed to run alongside version 1.1, so there should be no problems with installing it as soon as possible.Having said that, I'm not going to install this until I know that these bugs are sorted.
The last line of the release notes post kinda does it for me, anyway.

ModderXManiac reviewed v5.11 on Nov 13, 2005

New features in the Catalyst 5.11 include:

* Adaptive Anti-Aliasing
* Stretch Desktop Support for ATI FireMV Products
* Overlay Theater Mode Enhancement
* Catalyst Control Center Enhancement
* CrossFire and the ATI Radeon X1300 series

Performance Improvements:

*The ATI Radeon X1800 has massive gains in OpenGL when 4X Anti-aliasing is enabled. Increases include:
-Doom 3 performance improvement of up to 38%
-Quake 4 performance improvement of up to 60%
-Older OpenGL titles such as Quake 3, Arena, and Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, have performance improvements of up to 50%*The ATI Radeon X1300 has a performance improvement of 10-15% in Quake 4. *The Vertex Shader has performance improvement of 3-5% across multiple products.

However there might be some problems regarding .NET 2.0

ravek reviewed v5.11 on Nov 12, 2005

after install 5.11 drivers have lost performance in windows xp desktop.....moving big windows and scrolling down...etc etc

remove 5.11 and reinstall 5.10 work fine again
5.11 are to buggi

Adrian79 reviewed v5.11 on Nov 12, 2005

i installed .net framework 2.0 ..lastest change made. then i remove cat 5.10 and put 5.11 now i actually have 'CLI (comand line interface) app ecountered a problem must close' crashes fun.. now when i went back to 5.10..i still have the crashes lolwtf

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.11 on Nov 11, 2005

My review is with the experience of getting the exe and running it, inclusive. Anti-dl leechers is silly, you are providing a service to your users once a month, then make it available.

Having said that this version upgraded and downloaded fine.

fred_nd reviewed v5.10a Beta on Oct 25, 2005

Found the driver ok, I had the color problem with WMV files, but I installed the driver with the CCC and turned off "WMV Acceleration" (Under Video/...) and now WMV files display correctly.

OSuser reviewed v5.10a Beta on Oct 20, 2005

Love ATi but yesterday file was an ops! Hope this one will clear Windows "OK" signiture.

wickedfeel reviewed v5.10 on Oct 18, 2005

Drivers appear to be solid. Daddy like. I too have the same problem with WMV files, but I'm not sure it's the Video Card drivers, maybe it is a codec pack? I use Kazaa Lite Codec Pack Full here. Anyways, one workaround is to use VLC (VideoLAN Player).

JeRrYFaR reviewed v5.10 on Oct 13, 2005

I haven't had problems with them other than that darn WMV problem w/ seeing rainbow colors on most of them.. it's odd..

And I recommend just installing the drivers.. don't worry about the CCC (Control Center Crap).

oufc_gav reviewed v5.10 on Oct 13, 2005

The Catalyst drivers are the tuned edge part of ATI's driver range. If you have no reason to upgrade just make do with the standard drivers.

The release number is related to the month number of release - so 5.1(0) follows 5.9.

Works flawlessly here on multiple machines (though the CCC is still a pile of garbage - just use the straight control panel version).

Sybs reviewed v5.10 on Oct 13, 2005

Orbit,
Review the drivers, not the ATI site's anti-leeching measures.

Eemeli reviewed v5.10 on Oct 13, 2005

Well, this is good but not that good than 5.4 driver. 5.4 was lates version what works great my computer.

thezelda reviewed v5.10 on Oct 13, 2005

Yeah, well, i did do drivercleaner there buster.

Explain after FULL driver douching the problem appears, and full driver douching and reverting the problem goes awa, there , Bippy? Explain that. The drivers WRONG and the hardware, as bad as it is, worked quite well with the previous driver.

Sorry, there, bippy, you Skriptor, you must know everything there tuffy bippy.

1uk3 reviewed v5.10 on Oct 12, 2005

Good driver but there's a problem with the link at the moment from this site.

Go to http://www.ati.com and download direct.

mjm01010101 - don't give bad ratings for software etc just because of a bad link.

Banquo reviewed v5.10 on Oct 12, 2005

What are you doing? Don't give the drivers a poor rating just because you can't download them. Betanews screwed up, go to ATI's site and download them there. As for the drivers they work fine, had no trouble installing and my games seem to be happy with them. :)

http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.10 on Oct 12, 2005

"
Unauthorized download

We're sorry, but this download request cannot be authorized. As an option, you may visit any of the pages below for information about ATI services and products:"

duntuk reviewed v5.9 on Sep 24, 2005

*yeah*.. you're experiencing these "extreme" problems, that have yet to be document/shared by anyone else.... hmmm... gee what could that mean...
maybe, it's something YOU are doing wrong...

go to drivercleaner.net

thezelda reviewed v5.9 on Sep 22, 2005

Went from 5.8 to 5.9. had to go back. these new "drivers" caused banding and extreme scrolling slowness in 2D. EXTREME. Was like owning a CGA card.

ATI is starting to falter, to crack to suck. I'm glad the exist only as a foil to push Nvidia further, but no one should buy the product.

Ugh.

Zygi reviewed v5.9 on Sep 22, 2005

Media Player Classic plays them properly always !!!
Great drivers, now i'm waiting for a Omega edition...

LRN reviewed v5.9 on Sep 22, 2005

JeRrYFaR, try to watch wmv's with MPlayer.

midfingr reviewed v5.9 on Sep 21, 2005

Gave them a 5 since I didn't want to break the trend. I find these as good as any others. The new java install was really cool. I still get that system event warning message about ati2mtag - haven't resloved that yet.

Adrian79 reviewed v5.9 on Sep 21, 2005

hmmm i could of sware this 5.9 came out few months ago?

JeRrYFaR reviewed v5.9 on Sep 21, 2005

I agree they are the best, but the last version would not work properly w/ some .wmv files (on two systems - 1 w/ 9800 Pro & 1 w/ 9600) as they would look like negatives with blue and yellow and purple or something like that and the only way to fix was to lower the hardware acceleration.

Trying the previous drivers fixed the issue, but when I reinstalled the 5.08's again it was the same problem.. I have high hopes for 5.09, but other than that no complaints..

ravemanson reviewed v5.9 on Sep 21, 2005

YYEAAAHHHH!

iknowyouknow reviewed v5.9 on Sep 21, 2005

ATI are the best!!! I used tio use Nvidia but decided to give ATI a try, I was impressed I gotthe 9800 Pro which is the Sapphire model:)

On the driver side, I tried Omega drivers and agree they sometimes slowed the system down but with ATI Cat drivers all goes nice. Good job ATI:)

TC17 reviewed v5.8 on Sep 1, 2005

I haven't used the original Catalyst drivers in a long time, but tried them again now. ATI sure has added a lot to it, its totally different. Looks impressive.

JazzyTech reviewed v5.8 on Aug 18, 2005

This is slightly off topic, but I felt I should mention this to anyone thinking of upgrading to Omega drivers. I've been using the Omega modified drivers for the ATI 9200 and the 9800 pro with good results/improvements. However this changed with version 5.7 and the ATI X700 mobile card. I had a lot of problems, and the driver mods from Omega slowed my system down. After weeks of tweaking and re-installing, I eventually gave up on the Omega mods and returned to the ATI Catalyst 5.7 drivers. I know Omega usually does a great job, but it didn't work for me with the following configuration:
Acer Travelmate 8104
Pentium Mobility 2.0 GHz "Sonoma"
1GB DDR2 RAM
ATI Mobility X700 - 128 MB
HD 80GB - seagate

xyzcb1 reviewed v5.8 on Aug 18, 2005

Good driver. Work very well with the 9800 pro.

btw, is there a xp64 driver for the radeon 7000 series?

improvelence reviewed v5.8 on Aug 17, 2005

I am so tired of seeing these whiney omega fans on here. Wheres Omegas 64 bit release?

Key phrase "the best MODDED drivers"

Omega drivers will degrade performance in HL2 and a few other games.
Omega drivers sometimes will not recognize after a reboot.

The omega drivers are not total crap but I have never had a problem with ATI's drivers nor noticed anything signifigant with the Omega drivers.

If you have problems with ATI drivers then you have done something wrong, plain and simple.

Guevara is an idiot.

nightops reviewed v5.8 on Aug 17, 2005

Very nice. Windows XP Pro SP2, P4 3.2Ghz @ 3.8Ghz. 1GB Crucial XMS @ 413Mhz, 4x 74GB Raptor in RAID 1+0, Sapphire Radeon x800XT PE (AGP). I have had no problems with any of the ATI Drivers since back in the 4.x days. 5.8 is no exception. I might be lucky...but I don't think so. 5.7 offered the best jump so far, but 5.8 fine-tuned some small issues I noticed.

pipdipchip reviewed vBeta 1 on Jul 29, 2005

It's good to see ATI be so pro-active and release drivers for a OS that is over a year way. Way to go ATI! Where's nvidia?? ;)

cooldude7273 reviewed vBeta 1 on Jul 29, 2005

Great to see ATI working ahead!

omarmakki reviewed vBeta 1 on Jul 29, 2005

That was fast!

war593122 reviewed vBeta 1 on Jul 29, 2005

Working perfectly as always. :)

Trojanman reviewed v5.7 on Jul 15, 2005

Pretty good performance, I have an AIW 9800 pro and with this release as with others I find that my games will crash if I don't disable VPU recover and turn smartgart to AGP 4x not 8x. I though it would cripple performance but I play bf2 a lot right now and it performes flawless. I read this on some website a while ago I don't remember where but try it and most likely it will work for you.

ModderXManiac reviewed v5.7 on Jul 14, 2005

I'd rather wait for the Omega Version.

For those of you who dont know, ATI actually realized the Omega drivers as the greatest mod drivers on the 'net.

Figures, the programmer is an ati beta tester.

I really appreciate the fixes, it'll be good having them on Omega drivers soon.

until then, 3 outta 5.

guevara reviewed v5.7 on Jul 14, 2005

NOT very stable here.

This version (and the last)
messed my pc up.
so i had to reinstall the old version..
I dont
think i
would bother
to try
another version in the future

anomoly reviewed v5.6 on Jun 9, 2005

Could you believe it? they work. Of course I use the omegas not these. Speed is in the card lames not the drivers-speaking of which mine is slow (9000 pro). Getting a 9800 aiw asap & reinstalling omegas

Banquo reviewed v5.6 on Jun 9, 2005

DudeBoyz, they can't keep making the card faster with every driver release. The card can only go so fast; new drivers are primarily released to fix bugs (which in a lot of cases are the fault of the game programmers and not ATI; yes I'm talking to you EA). If developers would follow standards the world would be a happier place. That said I've had no trouble at all with ATIs drivers for a long time.

DudeBoyz reviewed v5.6 on Jun 9, 2005

You think it is a coincidence that an ATI funded study saying ATI 5.6's are more stable than Nvidia is released on the exact same day as the drivers themselves???

How freakin' stupid do you have to be not to see the greasing of that palm?

Woah!

That said, Catalyst without the CCC are pretty stable and functional. But the 5.6's are not much better than the 5.1's when it comes to speed, stability, etc.

AnandTech has a benchmark showing that these 5.6's are not faster at all than the 5.5's, no matter what the hype is.

This coming from a current owner of 3 ATI cards. I will continue to buy BB ATI cards, but I'm not a blind loyalist willing to praise everything they do.

bourgeoisdude reviewed v5.6 on Jun 9, 2005

I am very disappointed with ATI--not because of the quality of the video cards (though the X300's sure have a high rate of failure), stability or performance, but their drivers. NVIDIA and even Intel seem to have no problems when changing out video from one brand to another or just switching video adapters in the same brand. But once ATI is involved, drivers have trouble installing, ATI drivers will never uninstall (why MUST I be using ATI to UNINSTAL a driver?), etc. Yes now I know when going from ATI to nvidia you must uninstall first, install a vga 16 color driver, and ensure Default Monitor is the driver and that it is not a DVI monitor, but come on! Why not have me hoola-hoop in my underwear while taking a shower before changing graphics adapters? It'd sure be easier!!!

Moved from NVIDIA to onboard intel and never had to uninstall or anything, no problems. Also have had more incompatible programs and more "Windows protection errors" than I can count with ATI cards. Again, ATI MAKES GREAT CARDS, why can't they make a decent driver?

Also alexweber15, the uninstall does exist but tells me "No ati devices present" and refuses to uninstall. I did finally remove the registry entries, and this was back at version 5.1x driver. Did try the actual 5.6 driver but afterward it still causes the BSOD when switching to any pci video card (not a common issue but easily correctable) without adding vga driver first. Again I love the cards themselves just had lots of bad experiences with the drivers. If they work for you then great!

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

The last ATI driver I will use on a personal system. If you read through my history of comments you'll see why. My complaints were not addressed satisfactorily. This driver install I get a popup on reboot stating SMARTGART needs to determine my optimal processor settings. It just sits there though and no way to close it.

aerthling reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

Racerbob, you need to install the .NET Framework. I'm pretty sure it mentioned it somewhere either in the install or readme.

spiked reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

Thank goodness they finally got rid of the old filenaming pattern. Now if they would only make their installer capable of upgrading in-place instead of requiring manual uninstall-reboot-install-reboot-redetect-reboot. This is especially annoying if you've got an AIW which needs the WDM capture driver.

dzjepp reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

Heh, I wonder why my comment was removed.

Hi zero-point, you are from driver heaven right? I'm gonna test out your drivers once they go final. =]

Zero-Point reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

If some were not so ignorant and read release notes or checked the ATI download page they would realize that there are ALWAYS two releases: one with the "bloated" CATALYST Control Panel and one without.

ATI never "went back" to the newer control panel, just the last download link posted here was for the release without the control panel (file size ~ 26 MB) and the download think for this version 5.5 is for the release with the control panel (also note the file size is ~33 MB).

These last versions (5.4 & 5.5) have resolved issues w/ Pro/E on my workstation.

Slug_Coordinator reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

Why did they go back to the new style too much resources. I can not believe they have to make such a bloated contol panel for this.

Who cares about the animation, and fancy skins I spend my time playing games not looking at their catalyst control panel.

Racerbob reviewed v5.5 on May 17, 2005

Something seriously wrong with this latest release. Now getting a cli.exe application error every time I boot. Running Windows XP Pro here. My son installed same drivers in his pc and is geting same error. Don't they test for these things before they release these drivers ? Going back to previous drivers now.

aerthling, thanks for the info. My son and myself figured this out before I read your post..all is well now.

westonc reviewed v5.4 on Apr 8, 2005

Turned my OS into molassesware. Right clicking icons on my desktop to bring up menu caused 50% CPU usage and Start Menu caused near 100% CPU usage. Something is wrong here...Thank goodness I had the previous release on a recovery disc.

xippon reviewed v5.4 on Apr 8, 2005

freez on instaling WDM Capture driver in Windows XP

hugh750 reviewed v5.4 on Apr 8, 2005

I Just Downloaded And Installed Catalyst 5.4 Yesterday,And It Works Wonderfully And You Don't Have To Uninstall The Previous Driver.

Wyojake reviewed v5.4 on Apr 7, 2005

installed well no problems didn't have to uninstall drivers. would some of you reviewers on here please update not only your computers but peripherals? then rate. ati has always been very kind to me. waiting for 64 bit drivers. think things will improve some.

purush reviewed v5.4 on Apr 7, 2005

I have been updating the original drivers from ATI and it has always been very good on my wide screen LCD Monitor. This is by far the best update. My screen looks absolutely marvellous

sftwrmaniac reviewed v5.4 on Apr 7, 2005

32MB? No thanks.

Wyojake reviewed v5.3 on Mar 10, 2005

works well. better than any other past version.

}{KeYmAkEr*}{ reviewed v5.3 on Mar 10, 2005

Apparently the Catalyst Control Centre needs internet access through your firewall or router to get it to start up...

With the Ati HotKey Poller & ATI Smart services running as well..

Might be like Diskeeper needing internet access as well?

bigspud reviewed v5.3 on Mar 10, 2005

these drivers are junk, 4.9 drivers are last version that work properly on my sapphire 9500. these are very slow and make video quality very poor.
yes, i remove old drivers before installing new ones. looks like nvidia is in my future plans.
these drivers are JUNK.

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.3 on Mar 9, 2005

I've had it with ATI. They have had trouble with 3-d which is understandable, but I still cannot fathom their 2D incompetence...
1. Known issues gets larger over time.
2. Still, after years of upgrading my settings, it doesn't remember my multi-monitor preferences from the previous driver release.
3. Something went wrong with trying to setup multimonitor on this release and CCC crashed while resetting preferences. CLI.exe hung and I was stuck with an extended desktop with skewed resolutions I could only reboot to fix.

DudeBoyz reviewed v5.3 on Mar 9, 2005

Sounds like that Catalyst Control Center is more trouble than its worth, according to the bugs and issues list. Yikes.

fragsta reviewed v5.2 on Mar 1, 2005

great

bugmenot reviewed v5.2 on Feb 10, 2005

Well, I was able to see a small performance improvement, but the problem is my cheap card (R9200) won't work properly with any driver I tried after Catalyst 4.2! And I tried so many, even the Omega ones. With all of them I'm experiencing random video dissapearing (acts like monitor is turned off!), and the only way to fix it's reboot.. duh! I'm starting to think either:
- i was "lukcy" enough to get a defective card;
- new drivers don't care about old cards;

zeeeg reviewed v5.2 on Feb 10, 2005

I have the same problem as heybirder. First tried installing over 5.1 drivers, had the problem. So I uninstalled all ATi software, restarted, installed 5.2, restarted, same problem. Back to 5.1.. maybe it's time to go (nvidia) shopping.

tp reviewed v5.2 on Feb 9, 2005

alls well here with these

heybirder reviewed v5.2 on Feb 9, 2005

I changed from the 5.1 drivers to the 5.2 drivers and they have issues. Slugish video quality and when I resize a video in wmp the video freezes and I have to min/max the program to get it to refresh.

DudeBoyz reviewed v5.1 on Jan 31, 2005

Best set in a long time. I also turn off VPU Recover and everything in the OPTIONS tab and I also disable that HOTKEY POLLER thing by deleting the registry entries for it.

With all that done, these 5.1's really seem to be a step up in stability and speed in some games, including Battle for Middle Earth.

Highter reviewed v5.1 on Jan 18, 2005

Agreed, these are very stable drivers. The bugs are not due to driver problem, but due to the person that sits between the chair and the keyboard. Next time you install new drivers, make sure you properly unistall it. And, by the way funky303, if you don't like the control center, then download the control pane version, and if you don't want to download the entire package, download only the display drivers then. And, at last, turn off VPU recover, you don't need it.

rwired reviewed v5.1 on Jan 18, 2005

You are all a bunch of cry babies, and for that phone support guy, shut up you get paid to take those calls, I am so tired of people moaning about their jobs, YOU GET PAID! so do your damn job and quit b****ing.

These drivers rock as usual, if you have any problems it must be because your system s-u-c-k-s.

bourgeoisdude reviewed v5.1 on Jan 18, 2005

I'm beginning to realize more and more that it's not ATI's video cards that have 40 million more bugs than NVIDIA's, it's their darn drivers. I am getting tired of receiving calls at this tech support call center for people who have messed up drivers. 90% of corrupted drivers are ATI's, while only 8% are Intels and the remainder NVIDIA. Sad that Intel's drivers are even better...

tp reviewed v5.1 on Jan 17, 2005

i installed them and the control panel wouldn't run after reboot. i didnt feel like hassling it so installed latest omega's instead..

mjm01010101 reviewed v5.1 on Jan 17, 2005

The list of "known bugs" is increasing. wtf? That is just wrong.

funky303 reviewed v4.12 on Dec 14, 2004

well the drivers would be nice if they were not that bloated and pain in the a** to download. almost 22 MB for drivers and that really bad control center is way too much.

and it still has some annoying bugs :

1.) i get a BSOD on a fresh installed winXP sp1 & 2 when i try to use the regular windows screen config menu.. as soon as i click the "Advanced" button in the screen config menu ==> BSOD

2.) as in the 4.12 beta my OS loads 1 out of 2 bootups. the screen stays dark for 1-2 minutes, then i get the message that the VPU recovery failed, then it switches me to software render mode and i have to restart.

nvidia ain't perfect too, i don't like their way to disptribute drivers without giving the possibility to just upgrade the driver alone instead having to download the entire package each time they relase a new driver all over again.

i am one of those ppl who don't really care about 1-2% performance gain in some games, but who cares for a rock solid system which should run 24/7...

yet alone the VPU recover program is emberracing..

why does a vpu crash ? are the drivers so badly programmed ? i had many vidcards in my systems, some from nvidia, and some ati. those from nvidia didn't crash so often as the atis do.

roj reviewed v4.12 on Dec 14, 2004

To the individual who says ATI should have gotten it right a year ago with Valve:

Obviously you know zero about the developement of any software. Things CHANGE between inception and delivery and things slip through the crack because of communications (or a lack of it). Given Valve's wonderful track record with the users with HL2 thus far, this doesn't overly surprise me.

I've rarely seen a bad Catalyst release and this one is no exception.

igopoopeez reviewed v4.12 on Dec 14, 2004

Big improvement gaming-wise. My only problem is the fact that my tevelision output is to a video switcher. If it's not switched to my radeon's output when the driver initializes ( windows start-up ), CCC has to re-detect the display making my comps display to reset to 1024x768, causing my icons to rearange on the desktop and my theatre mode overlay setting to reset.....
Quite annoying

mjm01010101 reviewed v4.12 on Dec 14, 2004

1. Requires re-programming of all display settings, preferences.
2. Monthly driver releases wouldn't be so bad if to PROPERLY uninstall and reinstall didn't take 20 minutes.
3. ATI you partnered with Valve for the release of HL2 over a year ago! You should have gotten it right then!

bsr500 reviewed v4.12 on Dec 14, 2004

ATI rocks x2

To the person that said they release drivers monthly because they cant get it right.. Both nvidia and ati release drivers to fix problems in games (most of which are originally the game developers fault), ATI just releases drivers more frequenty to fix things, whereas nvidia will have the same bug for months and months and months and months on end before they decide to fix it... ATI's monthly release is a good thing.

Oh, did I mention.. ATI ROCKS!

krakokainer reviewed v4.12 on Dec 13, 2004

ATI rocks!

Monthly updates because they FIX things.

If its too hard for u 2 click on "install" you are too much of a fool to be posting at a tech site.

Go take a basic computer class.

improvelence reviewed v4.12 Beta 2 on Dec 7, 2004

No problems at all with this driver, anyone having problems probably didnt uninstall there old drivers first or they are just plain morons. Noticeable increases in HL2.

Kr0m reviewed v4.12 Beta 2 on Dec 3, 2004

Might be why it's called Beta.

funky303 reviewed v4.12 Beta 2 on Dec 3, 2004

i get this funny error (even after a new OS install) that each second boot the driver crashes and goes to software render mode after the screen is almost 2 minutes black. i can hear programs starting und ppl ICQing but the screen is black, then suddenly i get the messagebox thatVPU recover didn't work and the driver switches to software render mode.

that does NOT happen with 4.11 after simply reinstalling it.

also a bug (maybe just on my machine) since 4.10 and the ati control center: when i use the windows own screen config menu and try to press the Extended config button i get a BSOD

Ati definitively needs to work on their driver.

the only positive thing on 4.12 is the increased performance in HL2..
stay with 4.11 if you're not playing HL2 all the time

FailedCRC reviewed v4.12 Beta on Nov 27, 2004

Catalyst's are a pain to install and since 4.08 they cause random (all be it infrequent) blue screens (as in completely blue, no debug text) in opengl apps.

mjm01010101 reviewed v4.12 Beta on Nov 15, 2004

crowbar82

Because laptop chips are updated by individual manufacturers of laptops.

rating: ok. ATI needs to stop releasing monthly. Get it right the first time, guys.

marcos_cu reviewed v4.12 Beta on Nov 15, 2004

This is for XP only!!!

crowbar82 reviewed v4.12 Beta on Nov 15, 2004

Why doesn't this updates/drivers works on the laptop computers?

johnk119 reviewed v4.12 Beta on Nov 14, 2004

EXCUSE ME but version 4.11 contains a fix which allows the driver to take much greater advantage of cards containing 256mb of memory or more i wouldn't get 4.12 yet but 4.11 definetly since 4.10 doesn't adaquately use the cards memory for more info and to educate yourself go here http://www.techpowerup.com PLEASE BECOME KNOWLEDGABLE BEFORE YOU BASH SOMETHING

Banquo reviewed v4.11 on Nov 13, 2004

Seems like the drivers keep getting more bloated with each release, and more things get broken. ATI had come a long way turning around their bad driver reputation, but now they are going backwards again.

Vuron reviewed v4.11 on Nov 13, 2004

Since 4.10 its only getting worse, 4.11 still runs like s... compared to 4.09, it also uses a lot more memory and it automaticly sends information about your system to ati. I dont recomend anyone to install it, unless you need it for gaming, stick with 4.09

Maddog666 reviewed v4.11 on Nov 12, 2004

If you cannot play video with Media Player 10, then start Media Player and change the video acceleration to none, (Tools,Options,Performance)play the video and if it works then you can turn the video acceleration back on.

Hope this helps.

generallee5686 reviewed v4.11 on Nov 12, 2004

Im not going to give this a bad rating because its probably a good driver.

I have the same problem as opchiasm.

I can get the videos that dont work to work by finding a video that works and playing it over and over again then switching to the video that doesnt work over and over until the overlay kicks in.

BTW this problem started with 4.10 and i just tried 4.11 and still the same problem.

opchiasm reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

Can anyone tell me why Windows Media Player 10 stopped playing the video in mpg and wmv files - just black in the video area - since I installed this update? Seems to play avi's OK. Thanks.

golbex reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

Ok, this time it builds support for HD monitors and improves the rotation feature. I'm not too interested in that stuff, but the new Artifical Intelligence feature intrigued me. It optimizes your graphics quality/performance depending on certain parts of the game. Now that's pretty cool.

If you're a Doom 3 user, you'll want this, because the bugs are fixed. Though, I wish they'd work a little bit on improving some of the older games, too...

CCC still has many bugs, but fixes will come in the next version.

sorahl reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

Followup - I was not satisfied with the arrogant Gerry/Jerry's statement that it was my computer THEIR driver was perfect on his machine and called again. I reached a much more amenable Sr Tech this time who FULLY admitted there was a KNOWN bug in the new driver that did not enable multiple monitors to work. They are supposedly working to put out a warning regarding this. So. DO NOT INSTALL THIS new driver if you are using XP SP2 (as they say you must be running before installing it). Hope this helps someone!

DO NOT install these new drivers yet. They may work for you, they may not. If they don't you are not going to get any help from ATI. I was just on the phone wiht them twice this morning and they just spouted the usual line you hear from Microsoft. "It works fine on my pc".
My problem : after installation of the new drivers my dual display option does not function. It was not work ONLY after I installed the new drivers but ATI techs say it can't be the driver because it works fine here. So it must be you.

Wait....let them fix the bugs (ONCE They acknowledge that they have a bug and then install it...
Pathetic....

olavinto reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

I must say that I don't have anything bad to say about these drivers. I have been using Omega drivers several times but I always end up using ATI's original drivers. There are some features that are needed and some bugs but is there really any software available that doesn't?

And you can download CATALYST without the Control Conter from ATI's website. Check out some obvious sources for information before you post, please...

FailedCRC reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

bunghole apparently can't read minimum requirements for service packs.

Brian49 reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

These drivers work fine on my system.

burfadel reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

I never recommend the ATI generic drivers, there are better options around.

Control centre, among other things is bloatware and could be much much smaller and still be more funtional and better looking.

I have been using the omegadrivers version, available from www.omegadrivers.net

They have a superior modified version based on the 4.10 beta. Its far more stable and reliable than the official ATI release (and its doesn't have Control centre). All the functions of the control centre including the AI are part of their own options screen, and everything works. This includes WMV acceleration!

Superior, faster, and it works! What more could you want than use the omegadrivers version!

bunghole reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

Tried these on fresh installs of both XP and 2000. I got blue screens both times on reboot. Reinstalled previous driver version and everything was fine. Later I tried the new ones again, and got a blue screen again... I don't know what the problem is but they're unusable for me.

And FailedCRC (3 posts up ^^^) apparently has never heard of slipsteaming. Don't be insulting.

fightback reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

I hate how ATI will never update the drivers for their laptop chipsets. Other than this, I put these drivers on my desktop AIW 8500 and tried to play Wolf ET... locked up pretty quickly. Uninstalled drivers and now I'm back to 4.8. Seems like ATI is trying to get the rep for bad drivers again.

mjm01010101 reviewed v4.10 on Oct 15, 2004

1. Lose all my settings each driver update. Unacceptable. I have two monitors setup and very specific settings, I don't want to lose these just for a driver release.
2. Control center does nothing when launched from the desktop/right click.
3. WMV "acceleration" basically screws up the display of WMV... I saw blocky pixels where I wouldn't with it turned off.
4. I want less drivers yearly, more stable releases. I won't be buying an ATI card next time around-- to me this is a mess...

Domingo reviewed v4.10 on Oct 14, 2004

I like the ATI drivers. I'll admit I like Nvidia's control panel a little more, but in general they're great. I think it's funny that people love to whine about some obscure games not working flawlessly when in reality 9 time out of 10 it's THE GAME with the issue and not the driver.

Either way, I have both Nvidia and ATI cards in my machines and have found I like both equally. For a while Nvidia was sucking it up in terms of performance, but you've gotta love the newer cards. Hopefully ATI can keep up.

Morningdove reviewed v4.10 on Oct 14, 2004

ATI provides explicit instructions for installing driver updates which includes uninstalling the existing control panel and driver. If one chooses to disregard those instructions, it is only asking for trouble. In some instances one may get lucky and suceed, or at least think that they have suceeded, but I don't believe instructions would be written that specifically if they were not meant to be followed.

fightback reviewed v4.9 on Sep 11, 2004

I've been modding the moibility moder for awhile, since ATI is too lame to actually support their laptop chipsets with drivers and since my laptop manufacturer is too lame to put out new drivers for anything.
Anyway, the modder worked with all the versions of the ATI drivers up to 4.8, but with the 4.9 drivers my screen would only run 1024x768 instead of 1280x800. Maybe I could do some more work to get it to function right, but I didn't feel like messing with it. I guess they have their excuse that they don't support laptops, but this was so annoying I had to go back to the 4.8 drivers.

czekar reviewed v4.9 on Sep 11, 2004

I have never, ever uninstalled old drivers before updating new ones and I have never, ever had a problem. My settings have always carried over perfectly. For those having trouble updating: It's not ATI, it's you!

Caleb reviewed v4.9 on Sep 11, 2004

You should try the new Catalyst Control Center.

I, on the other hand, don't have many settings, so a new driver install is very smooth :)

mjm01010101 reviewed v4.9 on Sep 10, 2004

Here's what entails installing these drivers: uninstall your old drivers, reboot, [possibly] cancel some dialog boxes about windows installing drivers, install the ATI drivers, reboot, turn off annoyware in taskbar, then RESET ALL YOUR SETTINGS BACK TO HOW YOU HAD THEM, AS THEY ARE LOST.

Unacceptable, especially with the "12 driver releases a year" methodology.

Nvidia drivers install fine on top of each other, and they maintain your settings. 2 stars for horrendous QA.

thehunger reviewed v4.9 on Sep 10, 2004

Anyone have any idea where I can find the ATI DVD Decoder? When I reinstalled drivers for my Radeon 9600 Pro AIW, I was prompted for the original CD that came with the card. Sorry but I've lost that - what now?

Slightly off-topic but still related, I think the ATI Multimedia Center skins suck and hate that I cant rearrange the order of my TV channels in the ATI TV Viewer app (for AIW cards).

dzjepp reviewed v4.9 on Sep 10, 2004

Seems pretty good so far. This one includes the new control panel. But you can still download one with the older (legacy) CP at: http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

otto888 reviewed v4.8 on Aug 19, 2004

every time I up-date I can't watch TV!!!!!!!!!!!!

they need to stop makeing up-dates! becuse they don't work!

Toad reviewed v4.8 on Aug 17, 2004

Works For me. 9800 Pro 256. Spent 2 hrs. gaming. No gliches at all..

guevara reviewed v4.8 on Aug 16, 2004

worked fine for me.

pipdipchip reviewed v4.8 on Aug 16, 2004

This doesn't have to do directly with 4.8 but it seems every time I update to a new version I get a bunch of errors. They may have been fixed in this last release but never the less.

skonrad reviewed v4.8 on Aug 16, 2004

@mjm01010101: Use a tool called driver cleaner (http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/). I chose a rating of (3) because I have not ATI card and just wanted to help mjm01010101! :-)

abear27 reviewed v4.7 on Jul 8, 2004

Installed without a problem for me - even installing over-top the previous drivers.

.:zoo:. reviewed v4.7 on Jul 7, 2004

M8 i'd install this ATI drivers version and i'd cant found any problem in the process...
My procedure was:
-First. I uninstall my old ATIs drivers. Reeboot when prompet.
-Second. Install new version and reboot when prompet.

That was all. I'm using ATI Cathalys 4.7 right now and all is ok. :)

mjm01010101 reviewed v4.7 on Jul 7, 2004

These are the first ATI drivers to fail to install on my system. I've been updating every month since January fine. These fail, then state that I must install the "VGA adapter" driver beforehand. When I uninstalled the previous drivers I can no longer install the VGA adapter, only "ATI" shows up in the windows XP manufacturer's list. Currently stuck in limbo as it won't accept the new drivers, old drivers, nor standard Windows XP VGA drivers. terrible.

GrievousX reviewed v4.6 on Jun 10, 2004

If you would like to review the release notes, they are here: http://www2.ati.com/driv...t_46_Release_Notes.html

eL MaesTro reviewed v4.5 on May 13, 2004

Should you be experiencing some kind of performance decrease with CAT 4.5 it isnt a problem with the drivers. Its just they newly added activated AA (from the start). So you will get less FPS but better image quality. Of course you can modify all settings to your likes.

havvk reviewed v4.4 on Apr 8, 2004

Still cannot use my ROTATING LCD and Cat 4.4 together. Once I go to rotate my screen then rotate it back, then go to restart, my user profile stays locked in XP and restart takes literally 2-3 min when it usually takes max 10 sec. Need to fix this ASAP!

CyberDoc999 reviewed v4.4 on Apr 8, 2004

This new version fixed a couple of bugs
but there are a couple of games that have stopped working.
(Prince of persia) ATI what did you do to break my Prince of persia

golbex reviewed v4.3 on Mar 11, 2004

Well, there ARE still lock-ups from my ATI card. I'm using a low class 7000 PCI, not one of those awesome 9xxx cards a lot of you have. They have been occurring less with each driver release, though. Everyone's setup is different. I'm probably one of those rare people that will keep getting hangs no matter what. Regardless, I give this driver a 5.

Neoprimal reviewed v4.3 on Mar 11, 2004

Golbex - I don't think those crashes are ati caused buddy. LOL. Are you ocing or something?

Well I have the bottom of the barrel 9000 Pro 64mb that I got when it was released. I'm waiting for the prices to stabilize before I decide to buy another because I refuse to spend over 100 on a video card. So far I've found a 9600 Pro for 99....but I wanna wait a liiiitle longer to see what PCI express has in store for us AMD users.

The driver, for me didn't do a whole lot (that is noticeable). Unlike many, I don't run benchmarks and tests, I look for real world performance changes and fixes in the games I have.
My card is DX8 anyway. A noticeable difference is that I had some odd video corruption in neverwinter nights and have had to go with the 3rd party omegacorner releases for a while. This fix seems to have handled that.

Haven't noticed any other problems with any other games. And I own quite a few.

QBgreen reviewed v4.3 on Mar 11, 2004

Bought A 9600 Pro for a song. So glad that I went with ATI, as this card for the money rocks big time. Every driver upgrade/update that I've applied (including this one) has been smooth and worthwhile. Good job, ATI!

FDisk80 reviewed v4.2 on Feb 12, 2004

Very Stable. And the FPS seems to gone up a little. In some games alot.

blackpages reviewed v4.1 on Jan 31, 2004

doesn;t warn for cards that only need the driver and control panel driver. installs multimedia driver for such cards and produces windows errors.

CPUGuy reviewed v4.1 on Jan 20, 2004

It's not a huge version jump.

The 4 in 4.1 has to do with the year, 2004, and the .1 means it is the first driver release of the year. You just have to understand thier naming strategy... I personally don't like it, but who am I.

golbex reviewed v4.1 on Jan 20, 2004

I expected more coming from such a huge version jump... OpenGL shading enhancements for developer supported programs? Ok, um, whatever works! :D

I do get the occasional 1 or 2 times a week crash using Catalyst. A big improvement over the 2.x versions I started with (I would crash about once a day or two). I see they've been working hard on stability. Keep working, guys - you're almost there!

hnaess reviewed v4.1 on Jan 20, 2004

Work as expected. But is possible to use these drivers or MS Windows Media Center 2004 with ATI Radeon 9800 in anyway (not by default).

xtool reviewed v4.1 on Jan 20, 2004

Got ATi9800XT + Athlon64, hope it helps. ATi rocks!

bsr500 reviewed v4.1 on Jan 19, 2004

ATI rocks!!! This release is suppose to improve stability, I recomend everyone upgrade to this version.

BillBraskey reviewed v3.10 on Dec 18, 2003

Regardless, if you are an unintelligent person and want to install this...get the full package from the ATI website, do not get the standalone driver. And follow the INSTRUCTIONS. Again I will state, this driver installs fine...On 3 different machines by the way. All you have to do is install it PROPERLY.

SumoHamster reviewed v3.10 on Dec 18, 2003

I'm also going to rate this a 5. I haven't found any flaws yet despite its 'beta' label. The new themes have a type of WindowBlinds feel to them, but they are nice and clean to look at.

Logistix reviewed v3.10 on Dec 18, 2003

Ive always been a fan of this program, at least compared to others of its kind, such as windowblinds other xp visual programs. This one, for me, works best with games, and doesnt seem to use too many system resources. The latest changes they have decided to make have been in my favor. I like the icons, and the new themes. Good job, gets a 5 for me.

rudolph reviewed v3.10 on Dec 18, 2003

dammit.. my last review was supposed to go under mmc8. oh well, the drivers deserve a 5 too.. no problems with them

KBUZZARD reviewed v3.10 on Dec 18, 2003

I generally agree with the others. BUT after years of ATI Rage this,TV wonder that and DVD software that wouldn't work I will have to say THIS Cat 3.10 and MMC 8.8 went quite well. I just built PC with AIW 9600 pro and MMC 8.6 software and had a 1 click REMOVE in add/remove that worked and new install before re-start went well, EXCEPT, Install DVD after DAO-MDAC and Before MMC 8.8 or DVD will not be there. MUCH IMPROVEMENT bv ATI.

CraigFoote reviewed v3.10 on Dec 18, 2003

Some other 'idiots' can't read I guess. This isn't beta. If he ran setup and it didn't work, it has at least one bug. Doesn't make it bad or in need of mindless defending.

roj reviewed v3.9 on Nov 5, 2003

Worked flawlessly for me. All I had to do on two different machines was to uninstall the drivers, control panel and software (without rebooting), then reboot, cancel the new hardware wizard and install the new drivers and reboot again. Totally flawless. Must be something in your system or perhaps did wrong.

ahb reviewed v3.9 on Nov 5, 2003

Don't bother yet, as the installation does not work. Says missing ".inf" file. The file is there, but apparently the setup app is looking in the wrong place.

Treize reviewed v3.8 on Oct 9, 2003

Good, fast, with some features, easy to use, and stable. All you want in a driver packet.:)

golbex reviewed v3.8 on Oct 9, 2003

When you download this one, you should know it has 2KXP in the filename. I think it's pretty safe to say you can use the XP one in 2000 ;)

Oh, and I just had *3* graphics freezes and my XP system just completely froze. No choice but to power off... The crash recover didn't intercept ANY of those (and it's enabled), so I'm moving my rating down a bit.

I *hope* VPU Recover is still at an early stage, because more work needs to be done on that. >_>

jpk311 reviewed v3.8 on Oct 9, 2003

where's the win2k version? I see an update for win98/ME/XP, but nothing for 2k!

Dwarden reviewed v3.7 on Sep 10, 2003

Minimum of problems with new drivers on over 50 machines with different Radeon cards ... i'm probably lucky ...

mosheved reviewed v3.7 on Sep 5, 2003

I updated my Radeon 7500 from the 3.6 to the 3.7 Catalyst driver. Now, none of my games recognize a video card in my computer and the 2D performance became terrible. I am switching back to 3.6.

toekneec67 reviewed v3.7 on Sep 5, 2003

I have the AIW 9700 Pro. I hate when ATI has new drivers. Why you might ask. If you have the AIW card, there is about 12 things to uninstall and install. When the driver gets updated, almost all there other stuff to support the AIW does too. You have to do everything in a certain order or sometimes it doesn't work. Why can't they just have 1 driver for the video, 1 driver for the AIW stuff. Not 12 different things to install. Everytime a new driver comes out, it takes me about 30 to 40 minutes to do all the updates. You could say, why put the updates on then, because they have enough software issues, I'm just hoping they fix them, so I install.

idsanity reviewed v3.7 on Sep 4, 2003

Finally! They fixed the bug with the original All-in-Wonder Radeon (aka 7200) where the MMC TV app caused XP to freeze up. I've been having the problem since November and tech support insisted it was something wrong with my setup.

gRimer reviewed v3.7 on Sep 4, 2003

Nice drivers, not if you have ATI 8500 card :), but i found a fix all you do after you install them and reboot is update to 9100 (so that your system think you have 9100, maybe same with 9000 but 9100 looked cooler ehe).

Then it's all fast!! fast! 3DMark2001 SE i got 200 points more

roj reviewed v3.7 on Sep 4, 2003

"And ATI cards have countless bugs in 2D/3D business, creative, and desktop apps. Do you know what the latest Catalyst drivers offer to those users ?". I'm a business user. I test and recommend the hardware we use within my organization. We use ATI cards on 9000+ desktops. I have three words for you ssb: "Stop Talking Crazy".

Dwarden reviewed v3.6 on Jul 16, 2003

Funny ssb and You wanna tell me that nVidia offers ALL to these users ? Where u live? for me is nVidia in driver quality on 3rd place ...

ssb reviewed v3.6 on Jul 16, 2003

eL MaesTro i knew excactly what i was talking about.
Take a look on "what's new", more gaming fixes and small cheats to gain a few fps.
There are people who use their video cards and computer for more than just gaming. And ATI cards have countless bugs in 2D/3D business, creative, and desktop apps.
Do you know what the latest Catalyst drivers offer to those users ? Nothing.

Do you understand now what i mean ?

eL MaesTro reviewed v3.6 on Jul 16, 2003

@ssp
yeah, super comment, youre really know what ur talkin about...

jim_phelps reviewed v3.6 on Jul 16, 2003

Another version, which stops sending a signal to DVI-out after waking up from suspend-to-RAM mode. The last version whithout this bug is 3.2

Alex T. reviewed v3.6 on Jul 16, 2003

Best drivers ever! I love my 9800PRO!

franzj reviewed v6.13.10.6025 Beta on Feb 3, 2002

They still have a while to go on the AIW Radeon, which is covered under these new drivers.