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Sven123456789 reviewed v5.1.7 on Jun 9, 2015

This is dead-er than Fred

Blaxima reviewed v5.1.7 on May 11, 2012

Apple software on Windows should simply be called a virus as it is every bit as invasive.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v5.1.7 on May 11, 2012

try Maxthon....
Safari is junk

Music4Ever reviewed v5.1.5 on Mar 27, 2012

By far the worst browser in the history of the universe - I know I go on about it but I had to restore a C image just to get rid of it. If you try it, you have parts of it for good.

FatBastard reviewed v5.1.4 on Mar 12, 2012

It doesn't get any worse than this!

Music4Ever reviewed v5.1.4 on Mar 12, 2012

Dreadful browser at least for a PC anyway, no reason whatever to use this on a PC.

johnusa reviewed v5.1.2 on Dec 1, 2011

Pure Apple garbage.
Stay away from this horrible browser.
Apple should never write software for a PC as they suck at it.

Bala7 reviewed v5.1.1 on Oct 12, 2011

dictionary definition of Bloatware!
Why must Apple bundle other apps (including Bonjour) with Safari in order to work on Windows? This is one ugly exe.

Inray reviewed v5.1.1 on Oct 12, 2011

Utter garbage...

Input Overload reviewed v5.1 on Jul 21, 2011

If you try this browser make sure you have an image backup as after uninstallation it leaves 100 Billion registry items behind. It’s also totally un-customisable. I can’t think of a reason ever to try it again. Once was enough.

FatBastard reviewed v5.1 on Jul 20, 2011

I don't like this browser

New Doraemon reviewed v5.1 on Jul 20, 2011

s***ful thinking.

stylemessiah reviewed v5.0.5 on Apr 15, 2011

If you like your PC, do not install this crap and its crapware/adware
Apple are famous for stealth installing things with the PC version of Safari

Use anything but this to browse the internet.

Times like these you really need a 0 at FF

war593122 reviewed v5.0.5 on Apr 15, 2011

Crap!

Junkware included, be warned!!

Bala7 reviewed v5.0.5 on Apr 14, 2011

Safari itself is only 17.1MB
unpack this file and extract what you need as Apple bundles all their crapware (Bonjour and more) in this 30+MB file.

Input Overload reviewed v5.0.5 on Apr 14, 2011

Virtually uncustomisable, leaves trillions of registry entries behind after uninstalling. if you use this you are mad.

FatBastard reviewed v5.0.5 on Apr 14, 2011

It sucks!

kronos1962 reviewed v5.0.5 on Apr 14, 2011

A load of junk from the same people who brought us ITunes.

IE 9 puts it to shame.

Kelson64 reviewed v5.0.4 on Mar 10, 2011

@yours truly I agree with you that pasting a URL is broken in Safari, and to me it is inexcusable for a browser to not allow you to simply paste a URL. In fact, a 'paste and go' feature is pretty much standard for most modern web browsers. There is, however, a trick which allows you to paste URL's in Safari. After you paste the URL, click the space bar.

Other than that, I have always enjoyed Safari because it renders fonts much better than any other browser. If I am going to spend any time reading text on web pages, I will always use Safari. Far less strain on my old eyes.

Yours Truly reviewed v5.0.4 on Mar 10, 2011

Safari 5.0.4 running on Windows 7 64-bit (and other Windows OS's?) still does not does not allow a person to paste an URL into the address field and go to (load) that new URL: neither is there is a "Go (to)" button, and the Reload page button just reloads the current page it is already on, and pressing the Enter key also just reloads the current page it is already on.

The above has kept me away from using Safari on Windows.

Banquo reviewed v5.0.4 on Mar 9, 2011

Among other problems it wastes a ton of disk space taking jpg and png snapshots of every single page of every site you visit. Stupidest idea ever, this browser is garbage.

DudeBoyz reviewed v5.0.4 on Mar 9, 2011

My least favorite of the major browsers. Bloated, slow, incompatible, etc.

Firefox puts it to shame.

FatBastard reviewed v5.0.4 on Mar 9, 2011

Safari is not a good browser compared to Firefox and Chrome or even IE8.

ailef reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 22, 2010

this last safari works fine on windows xp 32-bit actually, it's not as fast as the last chrome, but as they look exactly the same, I would prefere safari cause of the adding of more settings than chrome. that's not hard as chrome has very little options in the settings. safari settings are not that huge but it's a noticeable difference between the 2 browsers. and about extensions, the ghostery extension into chrome isnt working for all pages as the one for safari is blocking all tracers that spy your surf.
safari for windows is a good browser, not as fast as chrome, without all those add-ons that bring power to firefox, but if you use to use several browsers, this one is good enough to take place beside Firefox,chrome and Opera on a windows system.

anon2402 reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 19, 2010

Who uses windows 5.0.3? I'm on windows 7 baby!

Yours Truly reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 19, 2010

I am running Windows 7 64-bit. Safari running on this OS does not seem to allow a user to paste an URL into the address field and go to (load) that new URL: there is no "go" button, the reload page button just reloads the current page it is already on, and pressing the Enter key also just reloads the current page it is already on?
I know that by pressing the Space bar and then pressing the Enter key will take you to the new website. But what I am looking for is something akin to the "paste and go" extension (as used in Opera, Chrome and Firefox 4 beta) - does anyone know of such an available extension? (There is none listed in the Safari Extension Gallery.)
Thanks.

Input Overload reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 18, 2010

Gave this a try for the first time today the PC version. A lot like Chrome but I think not quite as fast. Still good though.

It seems there isn't a lot in the latest, Opera, Safari, Chrome, Firefox in speed etc.. It's down to the one you prefer, I prefer Chrome but I could live happily with Safari. And I have tried them all this week on last weeks image.

It's good to see similar performing browsers to choose from that give features we prefer.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 18, 2010

Fire fox is faster than this

Kelson64 reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 18, 2010

The one reason I prefer Safari sometimes to other browsers is for its font smoothing. No other browser comes close to rendering fonts the way Safari can. It just make websites so much easier to read. However, the one thing I do not like is that Safari does not have icons on its bookmarks bar. I don't like "wordy" bookmark bars, and prefer just to stick the icons on the bar (which I can do in all other browsers). If and when Safari includes icons, I will be much more likely to use it much more often. As it is now, I just don't use Safari as my main browser because of this.

Sven123456789 reviewed v5.0.3 on Nov 18, 2010

Sure, its fast. But what browser isn't nowadays. Like chrome, there's no features. Plus its got that minimal toolbar look like IE and allot of browsers. Give me big buttons, lots of extra's. Can't see this ever catching on..

kandra reviewed v5.0.2 on Sep 19, 2010

Hitherto i was using Firefox4 beta and Opera 10.70 and now and then Chrome.Very recently i have come across Safari5.0.2 and installed it. Oh it is a great browser wonderful speed excellent interface.If you see the web pages you love it so much.It uses less resources and there a few useful extensions and you need not install Adblock either.In the preferences option there is 'Reset Opera' is wonderful and with that you can control the memory usage .The HTML view is so wonderful ,it is very very clear and have digital look.But book marks menu should be improved.I am not using 'Topsites' option as it takes lot of memory.Finally it is a great one and made it my default browser.

DoHickey reviewed v5.0.2 on Sep 9, 2010

Well it's fast, but I have issues with it.
Even though I unchecked the install for Apple update, it installed anyway.
I don't like to having to search & click & configure this and that and click and search & click to get this to look and feel the way I want. Right at the first run of the fresh install it should show the tab bar. I do not like the bookmarks bar. The menu bar should be showing also. Things just hit me the wrong way at first run. Yes I am a stickler for having things easy from the start without having to configure things to death.
The speed doesn't make up for it being an Apple product that doesn't play that nice with Windows.
And I couldn't find any themes or skins to change that ugly tan look.
I am not a fan of Apple or this browser & probably never will be.

bellgamin reviewed v5.0.2 on Sep 8, 2010

Faster than Firefox. Much lighter on system resources than Google Chrome, but a hair (just a hair) slower on my computer. Handles JS fast & accurately. Nice clean simplistic interface. Easy to learn & configure. Needs to tighten up its security features/provisions.

dotnetnightmare reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 29, 2010

This is damn fast! I can't believe what improvements they have made. I totally forgot that this is the original chrome! The interface that google copied! This is FASTER than chrome! The tabs are a little weird being on the bottom. It does include Apple Software Updater and Bonjour. I want software that keeps itself up to date. Bonjour is a network discovery tools for finding things like your wireless printer. I was so impressed that I installed Quicktime via the software updater, BIG MISTAKE! Nothing but a constant upgrade to PRO nag. At least their still the fastest browser on the planet and now they integrate into windows. We should THANKFUL that APPLE even took the time to Port this to Windows!
**I know, this review makes me even more popular. You wish you could be ME!**

Slipped it in reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 29, 2010

It's Internet Explorer. From Apple.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 28, 2010

recent found security holes and bugs galore... say no more

Blaxima reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 28, 2010

Spyware + decent packaging=Chrome

Malware + pretty packaging=Everything Apple

sheppe reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 28, 2010

Safari is still the worst web browser on the market.

roj reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 28, 2010

I installed this in a VirtualBox VM because Apple products are uninstallable (I defy anyone to contravene that statement of fact) and was immediately appraised of the obvious:

This is a typical Apple product. It's an exercise in form far surpassing function; in short it's a pretty conversation piece that's decidedly overhyped and borderline useless. Apple doesn't create products and never has; it packages spin extremely efficiently and effectively. Safari, Quicktime, the iPod, the iPhone, the Mac. All are pretty, shiny and useless to anyone who wants meaningful functionality.

Safari is no exception. Firefox isn't as pretty but is far more configurable and useful. IE has better integration. Chrome is, well, Chrome. That leases this tarted u8p offering out in the cold for real users.

ONE star.

nvic reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

I'll pass, just due to size and the bundled components.

Other than that, it does perform well and looks good while doing it.

alligoodw reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

For elegance, you simply can't beat this browser; this version is a definite improvement over version four. From my personal experience, with this version, there isn't anything that I've thrown at it that it doesn't render well.

Do I miss extensions as with Firefox? Yes! I do believe however, that given time and ingenuity on the part of those interested, we'll see extensions that will satisfy everyone acquainted with a browser today.

bloodx reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

Is this a joke or something? This thing is horrible.

Aegis69 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

More Apple crap, pure garbage. Install for laughs only. If you do install, good luck getting all the invasive apple crap off your system, ala itunes.

Kelson64 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

I fully admit to being a browser junkie. I think it's safe to say that many of us at BetaNews suffer from this affliction. I can't say that I have one single favorite browser, and I use each browser for different purposes. Safari has always been high on my list for one basic reason - it renders websites much more sharply and clearly than any other browser. My eyes are not the best, and I experience much less eye strain when using Safari. This new version of Safari is notably faster than 4.0, and without doing any benchmarks, it seems like it is equal to the speed of the other browsers. While I use some extensions, I'm not the type of person who adds them frivolously. I'm interested to see what kind of useful extensions will be available for Safari.

I am rating Safari 5.0 with a "4". Here are my reasons why:
- On Windows 7, when pinning Safari 5.0 to my taskbar, the Safari Icon does not show up. This is a small thing for sure, but it is distracting to me.
- I don't like the "Top Sites" feature at all. I wish it were more like Opera's Speed Dial (or the Speed Dial add-ons for Firefox and Chrome)
- The bookmark bar is very bland, and is something I have never liked about Safari. I sincerely wish that Safari would render the site icons in the toolbar.

Raton reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

Perhaps the prettiest Web browser. For functionality, though, I'll take Opera:

http://www.opera.com/download/

The PC Rat

Blaxima reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

From the apple website,
Faster Nitro Engine.
The world’s fastest web browser gets an engine upgrade
The world’s fastest browser, Safari has speed to burn.
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When has Safari ever been the fastest browser? Peackeeper always has Opera and Chrome ahead of it.

1* for more apple fallacy

DACWILSOL reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

much needed updates. New tab functions work flawlessly. Adding Bing search was a must need application.

FatBastard reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

Of the four major browsers Safari is the worst in my opinion.

FixXxeR reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

Fantastic update. I do not use it as my primary browser, however, the fact that they added extension support puts them as the last major browser to add extension support. Opera has now dropped below the "niche" class of browser to the "hobbyist" browser category as they are the only browser to not support extensions.

lucianct reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

this is an ugly copy of chrome.

later edit: html5 video and audio do not work!

DaComboMan reviewed v5.0 on Jun 8, 2010

Better than IE8 ?

No mouse gestures?!

Speed improvements?
Find latest Opera 10.60 faster than the rest.

Overall, still an improvement over previous version.

bellgamin reviewed v4.0.5 on Mar 16, 2010

Safari is a full-scope browser, easy to master, relatively light on system resources.

As to speed, my amateur testing of my installed browsers (all are latest versions) ranks them as follows (from fastest to slowest): K-meleon 1.6 alpha, Opera+turbo on auto, Chrome, Firefox no extensions, Safari, Firefox w/extensions, QTWeb, Cometbird

As to impact on cpu, Chrome is verry heavy (LOTS of separate processes), K-meleon is the lightest.

As to security -- I run browsers under Drop My Rights &/or Shadow Defender, plus I image my system drive weekly, so security is not an issue.

However, for "stand-alone" security, Firefox with Noscript extension is fairly safe. IMO, none of the other browsers can be truly safe from drive-bys etc. on their own.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v4.0.5 on Mar 16, 2010

Google Chrome is faster

FailedCRC reviewed v4.0.5 on Mar 16, 2010

Minus several stars for bundling this with automatic updates if you have installed iTunes.

FatBastard reviewed v4.0.5 on Mar 16, 2010

Safari sucks compared to Firefox !

GrailKnight reviewed v4.0.4 (5.31.21.10) on Jan 20, 2010

This is a joke right?
Come on Apple you have to do better if you want people to use your browser on Windows.

mlgsac reviewed v4.0.4 (5.31.21.10) on Jan 18, 2010

Dog slow start up on Windows. Its also slowed down appreciably on my Mac as well. Not impressed at all.

zeeZee reviewed v4.0.4 (5.31.21.10) on Dec 13, 2009

fast.fast for facebook when it is extra busy and the internet trunk can't handle it.

anonymouscowturd reviewed v4.0.4 (5.31.21.10) on Nov 13, 2009

Wow, i really didn't expect this to be so bad on a PC. I've tried it on a Mac and it seems OK.
Performance is abysmal despite all the benchmarks i see on the net. It really is slow. Start up time on my computer is of the order of about 15 seconds, in other words even slower than firefox *with* over a dozen addons.
The top sites "quick dial" type feature doesn't keep all the sites i add despite "pinning" them and they take an age to show up when you open a new tab.
Font's are badly displayed and like trying to read underwater (i tried my best with the font smoothing settings but nothing was decent)
Last but not least (not just for PC but for Mac as well) it it super Uncustomisable, absolutely completely the opposite of Firefox or Opera. You can drag a few buttons around on the toolbar and that's about it. You can't get rid of the search box. You can have it Steve Job's way or you can shove it basically!
Add on top of that it's the worst browser for security (though i think that was possibly for Mac and not PC).
Oh and guess what? it keeps me logged into FileForum across browser restarts. So that means it's not clearing down cookies. But wait, can i make it discard cookies on exiting? Nope. No wonder it's a security nightmare.
Ironically on a PC even IE8 is better than this steaming turd. The only reason i waste hard drive space on this is because i need it for testing. For the love of god somebody kill this horrible creation.

guru_v reviewed v4.0.4 (5.31.21.10) on Nov 12, 2009

Hard to review when it won't install - that is, when presented with the choice to install without Bonjour, which has never worked as advertised on any of my machines, I took it.

Once you do that the installer seems to be lightning fast, but all it is doing is erroring out, without any notice.

To the people who write this stuff - if something cannot be left out of an install, why give the user a choice?

KayNine reviewed v4.0.3 (4.31.9.1) on Nov 6, 2009

A great browser for sure! On my Mac it's my absolute favorite, but on PC I do use it only seldom, using Opera since v3 and not being disappointed, it still is my choice.

Anyway: Apple (and the Webkit dev-team) did an amazing job! Browsing is really fun with Safari.

If only it's download size would be smaller, but that must be because of the libs needed to realize it's unique Apple-typical "feel" (GUI blending, skin, etc). Still no reason to rate it less than it deserves.

Crusader reviewed v4.0.3 (4.31.9.1) on Aug 20, 2009

Too heavy. It´s so slow and down my pc 3 times in an hour!!! It´s very cool but not useful for me.

vladimir3 reviewed v4.0.2 (530.19.1) on Aug 4, 2009

Hi, I enjoyed Safari on XP, but with new fullversion appeared a problem I can't solve: Closing the programm, all the history clears, allthough in Preferences one week or other position is and Private browsing is not activated.
What's the matter?
Vladimir

ailef reviewed v4.0.2 (530.19.1) on Jul 9, 2009

i like this browser, it's like chrome with more options, running very fast.
the previous version had some bugs under vista 64, especially about the cpu usage that was too high sometimes running webpages including flash applications. hope this build corrects this.
except that, this is a very good browser, as fast as chrome and faster than all other browsers.

reddy.shyam reviewed v4.0.2 (530.19.1) on Jul 9, 2009

Not worth the browser war!

Here is the change log in brief:
This update is recommended for all Safari users and improves the stability of the Nitro JavaScript engine and includes the latest compatibility and security fixes.

us3r reviewed v4.0.2 (530.19.1) on Jul 9, 2009

Changelog ?

Ozon reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jul 4, 2009

Wow, this is the worst of the bunch. It's a sad day when even IE is better.

dhry reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 19, 2009

Yeah, no thanks. We don't need another browser, especially one that's as crap as this. Apple, please sod off with your waste of time software, and while you're at it, allow something other than iTunes to control your devices eh?

netean reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 18, 2009

don't care how good it MIGHT be, I've been stung by apple too many times before. I have to put up with the absolutely abyssmal iTunes to use my ipod, which also means I'm forced into installing quicktime and bonjour (neither of which I want or need)

this might be great if you run osx, but I'm not risking downloading any more apple garbage on windows

davidtb reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 18, 2009

Latest version functions as well as any of the other browsers today.
It feels a tad vanilla.
A browser is an underhanded attempt to the developers end. No free lunch.

johnuw225 reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 18, 2009

If you want to get tapeworm from half eaten apple, then this browser is for you as well !

landfish reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 17, 2009

if you want an exploit then this is the browser for you

DoHickey reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 17, 2009

I've tried this every time it comes up for testing.
I question myself why would I use this.
The answer is I wouldn't.
Using Apple Quicktime was enough of a problem.
The auto updates, the oddness of the way it's set up.
Just everything about it is not even close to what Firefox can do.

rseiler reviewed v4.530.17.0 on Jun 17, 2009

It's v4.0 (530.17) - released last week

us3r reviewed v4.30.17.0 on Jun 9, 2009

Pros:
- Safari is getting better and better. It's fast, definitely faster than Firefox. Maybe only Chrome is faster, but Chrome on the other hand is nothing more than the html document it displays , lol. http://service.futuremar.../peacekeeper/run.action
- Safari has nice font smoothing effect on all websites.

Cons:
- It crashes very easily.
- Does not fully support 120DPI.
- Sometimes lags heavily, probably the retarded Top Sites module working in the background.
- Top Sites module which unnecessary tries to be something more than a well known from other web browsers Speed Dial function.
- Lack of anty-ads feature.
- Poor bookmarks management.
- Plugins , does it have any ?

Sven123456789 reviewed v4.30.17.0 on Jun 9, 2009

Not bad. Glad to see the way it shows the fonts on a page is much improved. Seems pretty quick. It won't win me over from firefox or Seamonkey, but its a good browser for people wanting to try it out.

pjb reviewed v4.30.17.0 on Jun 9, 2009

Slow, Buggy. Crashes a lot in Windows 7 - which is a shame, I know Apple are not keen on Microsoft, but hey at least they should make sure their apps run ok on it.

niknetpc reviewed v4.30.17.0 on Jun 9, 2009

Slower than Firefox, IE and Chrome and buggy. I don't see any ,, superior web experience with outstanding performance,, gave me a reason for use this crap. Just funny..

cltx99 reviewed v4.30.17.0 on Jun 9, 2009

I don't know why I even bother with Safari. To me its not intuitive at all. The book marks are daft and gimmicky. Compared to other browsers it simply is not worth the effort. I gave it one star because it was a pleasure to uninstall.

alshawwa reviewed v4.30.17.0 on Jun 8, 2009

all browers are excellent , its a matter of taste not a matter of speed , i like firefox , you like safari , others like Internet explorer, and some prefer opera
and if you ask why you like this and not that you will not get real answers just fights between lovers and haters of a software given , the only real answer is they all do the same job internet browsing

Rayne Alex reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Mar 30, 2009

I know i puked a bit on Safari before, but that was b4!
I think these new versions of Safari browser is actually really good, like 3.2.2 and this new one ver 4. They are very fast and works all the time with no interruptions what so ever for me. Also Apple`s new security features is very good. Over all a very secure fast and functional browser, at least for me.

been reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 26, 2009

I unchecked the updater option at installation and the Apple Software Updater was installed anyway.

Why can't Apple be honest?

nattswe reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 26, 2009

is this a joke??

Low standard '

more then a alfa than a beta..

Sven123456789 reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 25, 2009

Ok Browser. Like Chrome, basically no features. Something i'm not looking for in a browser. Speed, is there really a difference anymore. I have IE8, Seamonkey, Firefox, Opera and Chrome. None of these is any faster than the other. Only thing that dictates how fast a site comes up is the site itself. Some sites like Cnn and Google come up in a flash, others dont. 1 of the problems i have, like i do with IE8 and chrome, is this small icons in the toolbar that seems to be popular. Sorry, give me a the old big toolbar icons. Or at least give me the chance to chose the size, like in Seamonkey and Firefox. One final thing, the bookmark management is pretty louzy here. Probably the worse of all the browsers out there.

DaComboMan reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 24, 2009

Yep. Definitely improved.
A new contender in the browser race next to Chrome and Opera.

-Firefox user.

alanpalmer reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 24, 2009

Thanks, Galifray! I wouldn't have bothered downloading this if it hadn't been for your comment about the changed UI. I absolutely HATED the Mac OS look. The new look I quite like. It's very similar to Google Chrome, and as fast.

Until there's an ad-blocker I won't use this as a regular browser, though, let alone as my default.

Overall, a commendable effort from Apple.

EDIT: I just found one problem that may or may not be Safari's fault. On one site, when I click the "back" button the URL displayed changes to that of the previous page but the page remains the same. I have to refresh the page for it to change. I can't reproduce it here on Betanews, though. I've never seen a similar problem with any other browser..

Galifray reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 24, 2009

Well, color me surprised. This beta does not skin the entire browser window. Just the buttons. And the tab bar is on top (yeah, it's similar to Google Chrome), but I like it. It also has windows font smoothing if I choose, which is a complaint that some had about Safari 3.x. I'm not sure yet about Top Sites as I don't see an editing function for it, but this is a beta.

Good work Apple, you do listen to the users.

Paul Skinner reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 24, 2009

This just in from the new Safari 4 Beta's '150 features' article:

"Acid 3 Compliance

Safari is the first — and only — web browser to pass Acid 3. Acid 3 tests a browser’s ability to fully render pages using the web standards used to build dynamic, next-generation websites, including CSS, JavaScript, XML, and SVG."

Lie.

You'll also note that Full-Page Zoom is listed twice.

I can't stand to use a product where they have to lie to get me to try it.
Terrible marketing.

sturgess reviewed v4.28.16.0 Beta on Feb 24, 2009

Well I'd tried all the rest, so thought what the heck lets give Safari a whirl. It's very quick, as quick as Chrome, and Chrome is blisteringly quick. I was disappointed not to be able to set up something called Top Sites, where all your favourites are supposed to appear in 3D, mine did not, they just sat there doing nothing. Then while I was musing as to whether I should make it my default, it froze. So it's not my default, it's in the bin. I'm now posting this with Opera 10 alpha which now has a spell checker, only taken them five years to install one. But got to say this spell checked version of old Opera is OK, I'm liking it, not as fast as Chrome, but has lasted longer than Safari so for the time being I'm an Opera fan, until it crashes that is, then it'll be back to best of the best Chrome.

cltx99 reviewed v3.2.2 on Feb 17, 2009

A very lame browser. What were they thinking? Quite frankly, it even makes Chrome seem like a good browser.

Skyfrog reviewed v3.2.2 on Feb 16, 2009

Too bad Google Chrome is spyware, but this is pretty bad too. When will Apple learn to stop trying to shove their stupid OS X interface onto Windows, it does not work. If you like Chrome get Chromium instead. It's the same browser but without all the Google crap and data collection they do.

elftyrrell reviewed v3.2.2 on Feb 16, 2009

Let's see... Google's Chrome, which is based on the same rendering engine blows this away in every possible way. It also has atrocious font rendering while Chrome is perfect. There is no reason for this software.

Along with iTunes for Windows, this shows you that Apple's software 'engineers' are lame.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.2.1 on Nov 28, 2008

where is the outstanding performance????
where??

KayNine reviewed v3.2.1 on Nov 26, 2008

Safari _is_ fast, it renders smoothly and is a quite good browser. I do use Opera because I'm using it for years, but also sometimes use Safari. I never really got used to Firefox, it's slow, a memory hog and hasn't got the convenient "feeling" I have with Opera and Safari. IE is absolutely out of question, I only use that crap if I really need to (corporate intranet forces us :-( ).

So 5 stars is definitely an appropriate rating from me.

@Galifray: good point! I also have to add: Safari includes quite a lot of GUI languages, this also adds to it's size. But IMHO opinion download size nowadays can quite be ignored.

lucianct reviewed v3.2.1 on Nov 25, 2008

it scores 75% in Acid3. there is no official public build of safari that scores 100. there is Safari 4 which does, but it is not public.

smarterthanyou reviewed v3.2.1 on Nov 25, 2008

It gets a perfect score on Acid3.

@lucianct: If you use the latest build of webkit (needs to be installed separately) then the current version of Safari gets a perfect score on Acid3.

Louis Serveaux reviewed v3.2.1 on Nov 25, 2008

20 Megabytes of pure garbage !

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.2.1 on Nov 25, 2008

The usual Apple product: Security is an afterthought and certainly not a priority to patch quickly.

I gotta love how Apple's benchmark graphic uses a discontinued Benchmark program for browsers.

Ian C. reviewed v3.2 on Nov 18, 2008

If you insist on having a WebKit based browser on windows, use Chrome or Konqueror. This is just another poorly designed UI wrapped around what was originally a phenomenal piece of software, and trying to get you to install more of their junk. Btw, Chrome is probably the safest browser for windows, unless you're scared that they're spying on you. BOOGIDY BOOGIDY!!!!

dazed reviewed v3.2 on Nov 15, 2008

Just another piece of software to keep updated to protect against exploits, something Apple isn't very good at.

Firefox and IE does all I want, don't need another browser with a foul GUI.

ctrl_vomit reviewed v3.2 on Nov 14, 2008

Can't even handle the basics. Font smoothing - although font smudging would be more appropriate description - is abysmal.

This is clearly an Apple/Safari issue. Google Chrome has the same rendering engine (Web Kit) and it displays fonts correctly. Safari renders fonts as though they were written with a big fat magic marker. Horrible.

I think this is a deliberate strategy by Apple to make Windows look bad. "Hey, Windows can't even make type look good - you should switch to the Mac." And that's shameful - though consistent with the Steve Jobs ethos.

alanpalmer reviewed v3.2 on Nov 14, 2008

I can't see any use for releasing this browser for Windows apart from for Web developers. It's nowhere as fully-featured as Firefox, Opera or Chrome. I dislike particularly the Mac-type UI, where I can't resize windows in the same way as normal. There are other petty annoyances as well.

It is useful to a limited degree when developing Web pages. The owner (a Mac user) of one site I designed kept complaining that a particular line was incorrectly placed, but I couldn't see what she meant. Once I downloaded Safari I saw the problem and could work around it. The site was fine in IE, Opera and Firefox, so it was a Safari-only issue.

improvelence reviewed v3.2 on Nov 14, 2008

A waste of programming time for windows. I dont even like this on my mac. Lame.

Galifray reviewed v3.2 on Nov 14, 2008

Despite a large number of "I hate it" reviews, which never say why. This is a good browser. Sure it's a bit large and has minimal features, but it's theming itself and that requires more resources. As to the "minimal" features, it has the basic needed features without the problems of bloat from unnecessary and unwanted features.

ratpackid reviewed v3.2 on Nov 14, 2008

I really like apple products, but there is just no need for this useless browser

Diam0nd reviewed v3.2 on Nov 14, 2008

Die Apple, diiiiiiiiiiiiiie!

BelgianWaffle reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

They should discontinue this product.

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

22 Megs for a browser patch?

shameful.

lucianct reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

it seems that it has a lot of menus, but i could not find basic features that even google chrome has... on windows it's not really fast... even firefox with lots of extensions is faster!

later edit:

now i'm posting from Safari 4 developer preview. same ugly interface, same features, but it is a little bit faster (i would rate this version to 3)

wiseolcat reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

Safari is nothing but a shiny piece of crap . . . In the same league with Google Chrome! (Just ignore "internetworld7" . . . He or she is renowned as a troll and little more than a mouthpiece for Apple products!)

keir reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

homos? how old are you?

internetworld7 reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

The best browser on a PC & Mac just keeps getting better and better. Safari's got everything I want in a browser. Now it's even more secure than any other browser on the market.

You homos need to quit trolling about Firefox. On a Mac Firefox is glitchy and feels like a Java app. It takes forever to boot and IS NOT written in Cocoa but in XUL which is not cool. The gecko browser that belongs on a Mac is Camino. It's much better than Firefox.

Lawrence01 reviewed v3.2 on Nov 13, 2008

I dont care for Safari, on my PC, or my Mac. Firefox all the way...

bls2k5 reviewed v3.1.2 on Sep 29, 2008

I have not liked Safari on Windows to date. With that said if you get Safari and add to that the Webkit beta from http://www.webkit.org this is actually a pretty good browser. The webkit beta makes Safari render pages as well as Firefox. It is very quick too. I'm still stuck with dialup out here in the sticks and this is by far the fastest browser I've used with the webkit beta. All in all it is a very good browser that should be looked at again.

siryak reviewed v3.1.2 on Aug 14, 2008

Don't waste your time with this browser. There is nothing at all good to say about it.

paulm84 reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 25, 2008

one of the fastest browsers on there

if you are looking for a simple broswer use this

bigmama reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 20, 2008

nice

improvelence reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 20, 2008

ModderXManiac stop trying to pimp Opera on the Safari page. Opera sucks even worse than Safari and that is truly sad. Safari is a horrible browser even on a Mac...

Daddy_Spank reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 20, 2008

I have heard some good things about this browser but I was really dissapointed trying it out. It REALLY aint doing it for me....

eldorado6.7 reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 20, 2008

Fast for sure, although the comparison should be redone with the latest versions of Opera and Firefox. as for me, I don't like too features-rich browser, but this one is so basic that even simple features are lacking. Cannot compare with other. More comparable with K-meleon.

ModderXManiac reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

I honestly will never understand why people like this browser...Sure, it works and renders very quickly, but it's the most limited and primitive browser I've ever used.. How anyone could like this over Opera, Firefox, hell, (even IE 6 for crying out loud, IE 7 blows this out of the water)I will never understand.

There's virtually NO customizing whatsoever, this is terribly unfortunate because the interface is a train wreck. You can't dynamically select a download directory, its memory usage is off the charts, and the installer doesn't even work properly.

There are many more things to list that make this a truly terrible browser...and I expected better from Apple...they should just leave the Windows user base alone...Safari is terrible on both platforms and iTunes does Apple no credit with how terrible it is on Windows.

They advertise this as the best browser in the world...It's the best mobile browser, and that's it...In the desktop world, it's plain rubbish.

DaComboMan reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

They'll have to rewrite their comparison chart with the new Opera9.5 and Firefox3.

AntiochMedia reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

elftyrrell: The point is to make Safari for Windows render text to look like it would on a Mac. They aren't trying to make any of their apps follow Windows' normal conventions and nor should they. Safari Windows' main task is to be true to its native counterpart.

elftyrrell reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

This is a terrible browser. Text rendering is unacceptable. Don't the Apple coders realize that Windows handles font smoothing natively. Wow, they can't even get something this simple and basic right.

Safari makes text appear as though written with a big smudgy magic marker.

internetworld7 reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

Simply the fastest and best browser on both a PC & Mac. It just doesn't get any better than this.

mbruni reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

Worst browser ever.
I'd rather use internet explorer 2 than this garbage. I'd even call this program ad ware because of the way apple tries to force you to install it on your system so that they can get this crappy browser to more people who don't want it. And no way is this faster than Firefox/Opera/IE.
This thing takes like 4 seconds to start while all the rest start in under a second for me.

I advise apple to stick with making apple applications that just look nice, cause people don't buy windows to show off, srry.

rseiler reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

Slow? One thing it's not is slow. Come on, pages come up as if they're local. That's still not enough for me to use it beyond testing, but let's be honest.

Project51 reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

Safari is as bloated as QuickTime for Windows.

Diam0nd reviewed v3.1.2 on Jun 19, 2008

Amazingly slow and bloated.

photonboy reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 18, 2008

Pro: Seemed much better than the last version I tried.

Cons: Froze up after a while. Pretty much ended any decision I had to test it further until the next update.

Summary:
I think most people should use Firefox + NoScript addon for most things and Internet Explorer for the small number of sites FF can't do properly. Forget Safari. In fact, I think many Apple users use Firefox on their Macs instead of Safari.

armpit reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

What a joke.

bogey9000 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

This new version rocks! Very fast. Missing a few bells and whistles but it's getting close. All I really need is some password manager for the Windows version and I'd consider switching from Firefox.

Definitely worth a test drive. Beats IE hands down.

Mystenes reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

very unstable. no protection against ads. useless

Morfiene reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Ok If you this is a great browser, you live in the fantasy world. Its mozilla code turned upside down. Crappy font display...hey Apple ever hear of Cleartype...and I agree its bloatware at its best. Good thing they don't charge for this like their overpriced hardware.
I'll stick to Firefox and FF3 looks like the killer browser we could hope for.

Umapathy reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

There are few more bugs need to be fixed. Namely I can't type Tamil UNICODE character inside the Safari browser using Tavulte soft Keyman while I don't have any issues with Firefox or Internet explorer. Ofcourse it displays the UNICODE URL's like firefox 3 still UNICODE support need to be improved. When I tried to login Yahoo! mail using safari browser I got the warning message that "Hmm...your browser is not officially supported.
The all-new Yahoo! Mail hasn't been tested on your browser. You can choose to continue, or simply go to Yahoo! Mail Classic." When I tried to logon I got the error message "Ouch!
The error, LaunchCurlError-28, occurred when trying to connect to Yahoo! Mail. "

alanpalmer reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

There are better browsers around, and they don't force the alien Mac UI on Windows users. It also seems have suffered huge bloat, without any obvious results. When I went to install this version I noticed I still had the last beta version in my download folder. It was 9 MB. This version is twice the size: 18MB.

internetworld7 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

A Piece of the Mac on Windoze. You guys should feel INCREDIBLY privileged!

This browser will soon rival Firefox on Windoze!

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

To the poster who stated it is safe to use. It is not. It sat unpatched for weeks. It did this during beta as well. At least with firefox or IE I can enter a mode that doesn't allow scripting.

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Switching from firefox with its millions of features and add ons because of memory probs to this garbage. Now thats funny. As for speed. Its become a joke with users here arguing. Honestly, theres not much speed difference between any new browsers now. People make it sound like one browser is 10 times quicker.

Eric20 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

I love Safari for Windows.
I switched to it not long ago from Firefox cause i just grew tired of FF and how much resources it consumed.
Safari is way faster than my Firefox ever was.
Don't listen to the people that are just trashing it for the sake of trashing it. Give it a try. It is NOT unsafe to use and it is much faster than Firefox ever was.
If you don't care about add ons that much give Safari a try.
Don't listen to these idiots. Their just a bunch of stuck up open source whiners.

lucianct reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Safari. Still the world's worst web browser.

it misses a lot of important features. and it doesn't even support addons to extend the functionality.

yahoo mail is not working, all downloads are saved in one folder, no mouse gestures (not even the ubiquitous middle click scroll)

cowgaR reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

I mean...it's a joke...

there aren't so many sheeps in PC world, Steve, you know?

ZenoLabs reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Bugged and unsafe to use.

darkpepe reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Wow! This one is FAST! Rendering looks just great!
I agree with most reviewers though, that it's a bit ugly to watch to...

simko reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Fast but that is about it and well i hate the mac feel of it .

any its not a bad browser just to clarify but its not to my liking prefer firefox and after that ie

madmike reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Tis fast, but dont feel safe using it.

po4ko reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Very fast, but not very customizable to my liking, as Firefox is.

Diam0nd reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

crAPPLE.

Bloatware. Slow. Installs a thousand files without any good reason for doing so.

rocugbg reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

I always got both FF and Safari open at the same time, I use this as my second web browser because my FF3 is sluggish when I got 20 tabs open. I really like the speed of the rendering, in my opinion it seems faster than IE, Firefox and Opera.

Prospero424 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

If the default font rendering in Safari weren't so horrible on the PC and they hadn't pushed it out as an "update" to Quicktime/iTunes in an effort to literally trick PC users into trying it, I'd be a bit kinder.

But there's really no good excuse for either one.

There's absolutely no reason I can think of to use this over Opera, Firefox 3, or even Internet Explorer. None at all. It's fast, efficient, and very standards-compliant, but so is Opera and FF3, and both of those are far more feature-rich.

Taken on its own, it's not a bad browser (which is why I give it a three, and not something lower), but it really makes no sense for Apple to be spending resources on pushing this on PC users when the (free) competition ALL bring more to the table.

They must be up to something with this, but I can't for the life of me think of anything that makes sense...

Neoprimal reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 17, 2008

Yuck.

Generic and nothing out of the ordinary. Not expecting it to save lives or anything, but please, bring something to the table. I absolutely hate the interface and it's really just unimpressive in general. My advice? Wait.

DoHickey reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

This wasn't all that bad really. It took a while to get the settings to what I wanted.
Having an import favorites option would be nice.
I hate to copy and paste a hundred or more favorites.

DudeBoyz reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

I've owned 2 macs with OS X and used Safari alot. I no longer have any apple computers or software, partly because it's a bit too specialized and you don't have as many software options.

So, that said, I can't see how or why Safari should even be used on the Windows platform when you have IE/Maxthon, FireFox and Opera.

FireFox with plug-ins/add-ons and IE with Maxthon are both BY FAR better than Safari.

I'm just not a fan of how this browser works on either platform, and give it a low score accordingly.

DakotaSunRunner reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

I tried safari twice and I simply do not like it. I also found it is not compatible with all web sites. It has a long long way to go for PC machines.

Project51 reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

I don't know what's the Traffic Lights for: Red, Yellow, Green? WTF?

Too big and this should stay in Mac.

Hello I'm PC. And I'm Mac... WTF? Go stay in Mac. MS doesn't do any IE on Mac anymore. So don't do Safari in PC anymore.

Galifray reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

I like this browser. Sure it could have a few improvements (right clicks on bookmarks for one), but it works quite well for me. Now if they would just add in the latest WebKit for rendering, since it scores 100/100 on Acid3.

dougau reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

Can we legally run this on a non Apple branded computer yet? Reading through the EULA gives me a headache.

coover reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

Great Browser.

For Windows, set Font Smoothing to "Light" to eliminate fuzziness.

This browser still lacks a feature I believe is necessary ... multiple home pages. This feature can be found in IE7, IE8, and Firefox. In addition to Safari, Opera also does not have this feature. I have deducted 2 points from my rating because this feature is so important.

mancubs reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

all i can says its very fast and impressed

DKDude reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

"For Windows, set Font Smoothing to "Light" to eliminate fuzziness."

Even on light it look's like crap, I wannna have an option to disable it.

Yakumo reviewed v3.1.1 on Apr 16, 2008

Is this the version for Workgroups?

MikeTechno reviewed v3.1 on Mar 26, 2008

Wow, I am plesently surprised to be able to report that I am plesantly surprised. This product is FAST! WAY faster then what I was expecting. At least with respect to speed, this thing delivers.

Psychocrusha reviewed v3.1 on Mar 25, 2008

This browser is really fast, possibly the fastest I've used, but it has lots of issues. Quite a few websites are not compatible with it, it chews up a lot of memory--more than any other browser, and it would lock up on me at times for no reason for 5 to 30 seconds.

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.1 on Mar 21, 2008

I have to give it a one, since its the worse browser i have tried. I don't see the speed everyone is talking about. Has basically no features, add ons, whatever u want to call it. Cookie management is the worse. Sorta reminds me of the browsers of the 1998 period. At least IE7 functions ok. This is just terrible. I can't be alone with the 2.6 rating.

jescott418 reviewed v3.1 on Mar 19, 2008

It works better on Mac OS10 then on Windows.The UI does not work with Windows in my opinion. Firefox did a much better job incorporating their browser into the Windows UI. Even Safari does not work with Vista Aero?? Why not Apple?? Sorry Apple but this to me is a half hearted attempt to port Safari to Windows. I would have expected better from Apple.

Aker reviewed v3.1 on Mar 19, 2008

Safari has really shaped up since the last Windows release. This browser has potential to be great, but the usual problems are still holding it back. The major problem is the horrible interface. This may work on a Mac, where you're forced to stare at everything that already looks like this, but in Windows it is unacceptable.

Font rendering is somewhat improved, but still too blurry for most Windows users. Lack of ad blocking or an ad blocking addon also holds it back, since all other browsers can do this.

Intrad reviewed v3.1 on Mar 19, 2008

Last version is really fast!.

Galifray reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

I like Safari for Windows. It loads fast from the first use, unlike Firefox which can take twenty seconds the first time its fired up after a reboot. It displays things well, and has some very nice features that aid in legibility and usage (the integrated spell and grammar checker, the private browsing, the ability to merge windows, and more). Sure it has a few flaws and things I'd like to see added (like true one window browsing, customizable link colors / styles, and the ability to change from just the blue color of widgets), but it works well and quickly.

horsecharles reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Haven't undergone any problems like other reviewers mention.

alanpalmer reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

It seems OK; at least, I've been running it for over two minutes and not had a crash yet. Those few pages I've tried it on seemed to render OK and moderately quickly. It doesn't have anything like the extensions of Firefox or the built-in features and speed of Opera, so Opera will stay as my default browser, with FF as a back-up.

I have installed the earlier betas and can't see any difference so far from them. I chose not to install Bonjour (as before) and the install went ahead without problems.

white lightning reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

62 MB installed + boring Apple software update .
Very slow loading pages, first crash after 2 minutes .
I'll go on using Opera .

AntiochMedia reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

After having used each incremential version from v3.0.0 - v3.0.4 for Windows with Vista 32-Bit, I installed this sans-Bonjour and sans-Apple Update.

It launched and said it was missing components and that I would need to reinstall.

I uninstalled and reinstalled - wasn't asked about Apple Update, but had the option to install Bonjour. OK. Finished installing, same error. I'll need to reboot to see if it works.

Point being, Apple Applications are held to a higher standard in my books because they 'just work'. And the simplicity of the install followed by the application failing was a shocker.

--

I'm sure I'll fix this and that Apple will fix it too in v3.5.1.

Support for HTML 5 / CSS4 / etc. is nice, however, unless Apple pulls a Microsoft Strongarm technique (like forcing it for functionality on their own website(s) and iWeb sites), I see this as bragging rights. Almost useless until IE catches up (and FF is in the same boat unfortunately).

Ryusennin reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

HTML 5... Yeehaa...

cltx99 reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

I tried it and all I can say is that it's pretty bad. Now, back to Opera.

dejavu reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

My default browser is Firefox! Safari isn't a bad software!

cekicen reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Title is funny: Safari for (Windows 3.1) DJGM maybe Safari is stable on Windows 3.1 :)

DJGM reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Safari 3.1 on Windows is way too unstable for primetime.
It crashes everytime I try to open the Preferences window.

Back to the drawing board Apple.

hell0 reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Words cant explain how... lame Safari feels.

Both Opera load faster, render faster and does everything more smoothly. Page loading times are not really an issue at all and I feet almost no differce between browsers. Acid test scores mean hardly anything in the real world - Konq scores very well but sucks in real world performance, Safari scores well and sucks at rendering things like blog layout. Pointless from a 'consumer' perspective.

The problem is that Safari just has... nothing. There is no reason to install something that has no features, that has gaping security and a bad user experience. It feels like a step in the wrong direction - its like Apple does IE6.

Ciolouse reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Safari is one of the best Browsers in town, with latest Webkit, it have 92/100 on Acid Test 3 !!!!

Project51 reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Sorry Apple, fix your quicktime then I'll try your Safari.

improvelence reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Safari is fast and I like the way it looks but I really feel apple is wasting their time. I don't even use it on my mac. Firefox works great on my PC's and my iBook and I can sync them all together harmoniously. Thats all that is needed.

And for the record, Opera is crap.

treworld reviewed v3.1 on Mar 18, 2008

Not sure about you guys, but I'm running on XP Pro and I couldn't even run the darn browser. I got an error as soon as I tried to run it. Apple should do more testing on Windows before they release it.

Vetta reviewed v3.0.4 Beta on Nov 28, 2007

It isn't anywhere as fast on my XP as either Opera (especially) or Navigator, but it's still in Beta, so...

I haven't found Safari on either the XP or Mac to be the speed demon it is said to be, but it's a fine browser nonetheless.

hurzx reviewed v3.0.4 Beta on Nov 18, 2007

It is really fast and let Opera far behind in loading pages.

Rendering is good although some pages can't load like Craiglist and make it crash...

But certainly not comparable to Opera and other browsers : a lot of features are simply lacking like fast rewind , group or sessions saving and browsing, ad-blocking, customization of tab-browsing, of UI, etc...

Yes it's fast but not features-rich, so...

internetworld7 reviewed v3.0.4 Beta on Nov 16, 2007

Sorry guys but I have to strongly DIS-agree with the majority of you here. This updated beta version simply rocks. It's much more stable, MUCH lighter on system resources and actually releases memory when you minimize it unlike Firefox and sadly Firefox 3.0 still won't include this feature.

The rendering speed is lightning fast just as Apple advertises. The new Leopard UI in Safari 3 beta is gorgeous even on an ancient and outdated Windows XP system. Keep in mind this is still in beta so there is still much more to come. :) Say hello to my new default browser. ^--^

horsecharles reviewed v3.0.4 Beta on Nov 15, 2007

I like it, NOTHING wrong with it.

malekshda3wa reviewed v3.0.4 Beta on Nov 15, 2007

i thought it was alone but:

First, this browser doesn't support Arabic, so if you want to browse Arabic sites, then this browser is not for you.

Second,i downloaded this browser several times giving it a chance with every update and each time after trying to use it for a day it just force me to uninstall it again, and what makes me more angry is that to uninstall it i need to close my Firefoxie, this make me nervous because i just want to know what kind of relation that binds it with Firefox.

For me the ranking should be:
1. Firefox (Fast loading, Open Source, Supports Extensions, needs productivity features and synchronization features as we can't trust any developers, and a better interface).
2. Internet Explorer (great has parental controls, needs some speed in loading and switching pages.
3. Opera (good as a third browser, needs some speed and a better interface)
4. Safari (horrible, but private browsing is a great idea)

preinterpost reviewed v3.0.4 Beta on Nov 15, 2007

I love this program because it reminds me to stay away from Apple whenever I get tempted by some white shining plastic.

darkwzrd1 reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Nov 12, 2007

All i can say is that someone was smokin' something when they where developing this.

zeeZee reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Oct 6, 2007

i do not like the history menu ergonomics. terrible.

senserd reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Sep 30, 2007

This program was so bad I actually registered to review it. Constant crashes, blurry fonts, and non standard windows behavior makes this a bad program.

improvelence reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Sep 22, 2007

Works and its fast but this should in no way be considered a beta yet.

burles07 reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Sep 18, 2007

when are they going to update this? it hasnt been updated since july 31st and its still very buggy.. i cant even print.. the program just crashes on me when i do.

alanpalmer reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Sep 18, 2007

I ran this earlier on XP, but have had to switch to Vista and just reinstalled it. At least it seems no better or worse on Vista. Still very much a work-in-progress, much closer to an alpha build.

arvind reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 6, 2007

safari for windows shouldn't be in version 3.. it should be in version 1 alpha.. it's filled with stupid bugs.. it definitely has potential, but it's got a long LONG way to go before it comes anywhere near being stable.

Xssshell reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 3, 2007

It has potency, but it isn't using it.
It's not a final product, there are so many bugs.
Why don't you integrate a bugreport service as steam did?

However I as developer find this tool is not worth to replace my Opera or Firefox.
I wish there was no bugs, but it is like it is.

Bad Product apple ;)
Hey but your still better than Microsoft *thumbs up* don't give up.

Eeyan reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 2, 2007

Its got a long way to go.............

horsecharles reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

Wow, what a bunch of sucky reviews....

Renders very fast for me on Vista.... it's much better than expected, given experiences with QT, how iTunes has deteriorated, etc.

war593122 reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

Still sucks big time!

coover reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

Still slow to render, still a memory hog, and still no option for multiple "home" pages.

However, I do like the option for "minimum font size" which really helps these old eyes.

Safari is not my default browser and they have a long way to go to even have a chance to be so, but I do encourage their development. It took a sucessful Firefox to get Microsoft back on the stick to continue development on Internet Explorer (which was really needed), and a sucessful Safari will motivate both Mozilla and MS. A sucessful Opera would be helpful, too.

Mastertech reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

No AntiPhishing, Page Zooming or Mouse Gestures.

b0mmel reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

as cool as quicktime on windows

Paul Skinner reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

Very slow rendering for me.
Resizable text areas is a nice touch.

Not configurable enough.

Uses a large amount of RAM for something that has so few options.

Not very impressed.

tenebrusmke79 reviewed v3.0.3 Beta on Aug 1, 2007

I have been quite impressed with this browser. Regardless of what people say, if you want to try it and if you like it, go ahead and keep using it. However, if you are one of those who are so totally against using Apple's applications, then that's fine too.

I am giving Safari a 5 because I love the application. Call me whatever you want, I will not change the rating from a 5 to a 1 just to be in the "popular" crowd. Who cares if you don't like it? Not me, that's for sure.

aashay reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 27, 2007

'Ugh'ly!!

Blaxima reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 26, 2007

How in the hell can you give a program this sh8 5*'s??? Oh I know, you haven't tried it yet!!! THEN DON'T LEAVE YOUR WORTHLESS FANBOY CENTS

I can't speak for it on a mac but this version is just awful. Slow rendering and it looks like stir fried crap.
Just about every other browser for windows is better than this. I wished there were more Opera fanboys so a truely great browser would become more common instead of crap programs like lets say itunes

bunghole reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 26, 2007

It makes QuickTime and iTunes for Windows look like genius coding.

I guess if Apple calls an Alpha a Beta they can fool a lot of people (fanboys.)

Holy cow this is crap.

jspratjr reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

Giving it a 5 because it's "top-notch" on another operating system is as worthless as "bad mouthing" it because it's a beta.

I'm not impressed with it, beta or otherwise - nothing special.

Adrian79 reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

havent tried it yet(on windows), but have to give 5 simply because i agree w/ the person below!

bellgamin reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

On the MAC, Safari is an absolutely TOP-notch web browser -- fast, stable, filled with features, easy to learn & use. It will eventually attain that same superb status under the Windows OS, but getting it to that stage will require users who will try the BETA versions and submit HELPFUL bug reports to Safari's developers.

Those who are uncomfortable in working with betas should wait for the final version to be developed and released. In the meantime, bad-mouthing a beta release because it acts like a beta is ...umm... not helpful.

treworld reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

Why does it keep opening new links in a new window????!!!!

tinkerdill reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

hard to say anything yet

AntiochMedia reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

I have really enjoyed the first two releases of Safari. With this one, I have - for the first time - experienced Safari grinding to a halt, stalling my system, and having the same stability issues discussed in v3.0 and v3.0.1. Not sure why, and hoping that this gets resolved as it's a sweet browser.

alanpalmer reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

Many of the bugs reported by other users have apparently been fixed, and relatively quickly. I never suffered from the text display problems, but they should have been found by alpha testers, not in a public beta. Did Apple only use testers with US English versions of Windows? I never had problems with bookmarks, either.

My main gripe is that Apple insist on the Mac convention of only being able to resize windows from the bottom right-hand corner. I don't mind the Mac-like GUI, but some skins would be nice. Still it's only in (hopefully early) beta, so they might introduce them later on...

zridling reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

This mutant makes QuickTime look good.

b0mmel reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

Buggy, looks ugly, renders ugly, no features, overhyped

johnusa reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

One important feature that is greatly missed is that this browser does not support the back/forward buttons of your mouse.

vercinstex reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

bad rendering
it looks so different and ugly

darkripper reviewed v3.0.2 Public Beta on Jun 25, 2007

4 because its a beta and a nice try...
many bugs have been sold from previous release, bookmarks now are working.
i ould like other font smoothing (fonts are little bit blur)

ok it's not opera, nor IE but we have another player in the "war" now. That's good...

muka3d reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 23, 2007

A browser that feels a long way from home. And it is.

It tries to be simple, minimalstic, but still manages to be slow and bundled with useless things (aka Bonjour).

Opera is still the champ for Windows, nothing comes close to it's speed OR functionality.

hell0 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 18, 2007

By far this is the ugliest, slowest browser I have seen for Windows.... amazing anyone cares.

I mean the brushed steel look went out in 1998, get real.

crashoverride reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 17, 2007

It's faster than IE to be sure but I'm just not seeing it being faster than Firefox....looks pretty even to me. It does however start a bit quicker than Firefox. The thing I'm having trouble understanding is that even though this is a beta, why does it need as much ram as Firefox does with 30 extensions loaded. I have yet to figure that one out especially considering the fact that Safari is so minimalistic in features.

sooti reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 17, 2007

i don't know why everyone is complaining, it works fine on my AMD 1.8GHZ, Geforce fx 5500LE card, loads in 1 second and loads pages very fast, much faster then FF or IE, but it is a resource hog, which is a shame, it takes 67MB of ram for one tab and eats up the CPU resource, hope they fix this issue next release, i see a nice future for this browser, but they should add some original exlucive options to make this browser unique.

algorythmn reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 16, 2007

Quote: "No plugins."

erm:

"Plug-ins for Safari on Windows" (Flash, Java, Adobe, ...)
http://www.apple.com/safari/download/plugins.html

solid45 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

Back button on my mouse doesn't work. Middle mouse button doesn't 'auto-scroll'.
No plugins. I'm sorry ,but I need to be able to turn off CSS and block Flash; context search via right-mouse click; Yeah, I'm spoiled
I preferred the 'brushed-metal' look of the earlier version (for Apple).

I still lie Firefox the best.

nilst2006 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

Help doesn't start. Impossible to import bookmarks. Slow.

auiotour reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

Not sure what people are talking about regarding opening favorites into new tabs, or it not starting. Guess it runs great on Vista 64.

tinkerdill reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

i know this is beta so i'm waiting if they gonna get this browser working right.

pjb reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

Does not render pages well. Fonts are not shown correctly.

Kimoeagle reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

After two attempts to use Safari for Windows, I gave up. There were very few identifications of buttons, lines instead of text... definitely user-hostile.
On my first try, my CPU froze; a de-install and a re-install brought it back, but with no improvement. With two Macs in our family, I am familiar with Safari, but I will not play guessing games as to which button does that, and where is the search, etc.I am returning to FF 2.0.0.4 until Safari becomes less cryptic!

Altman reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

Very dull look, has a few features that look cool like the dragging of a tabs effect but I would say that compared to the other major browser (FF, Opera, IE) this has got to be the worst looking and The most buggy (somewhat excusable as it is beta) and it has problem rendering a couple of my sites that work perfectly fine on the other major 3. Most Mac users don't even use this on their Mac, I'm not sure why anyone would litter their windows with this crap.

Isys reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

XP sp2

Security issues aside, this worked well on XP but lacks a few features (can't open new tabs from bookmarks, address bar or search), cpu jumps about a bit and needs skins. Most problems seem to be on Vista so reviews should include OS to be any use.

sturgess reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

I love this browser.It's faster by a country mile than either Opera my default, or Firefox my backup.Stability,rock solid on my machine,no crashes just that blistering speed,unbelievable.Love how crisp and clean it is,better than I.E. 7 ClearType and that is good.Get the security bit sorted and I will have a new default.

Alnag reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

I am not sure, if this is April Fool, but what new and exciting should this browser offer in comparison with Firefox or Opera?

What I see is ugly interface, permament crashes and incorrect displaying of pages.

ArKay74 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

Tried it briefly and it seems to be pretty fast, but there's no way I would use it since it consumes about 200 megs of memory after a little browsing. OK, that's probably due to it being a beta, but the features won't make me switch either once it's stable.

Also, the stupid auto updater decided to install the update in "C:\Program Files" even though I had it installed in "D:\Program Files" before.

And it doesn't care if you change the start page or set the new window to open an "Empty page". Annoying!

jacjan reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

This should never have been released as an open beta.
Not yet anyway.

99% of all the pages I have tried has been rendered totally useless.

Apple should have ironed out all the rendering errors before they released it to the public.
As it is now, it`s just something people will uninstall immedeately, and probably just stick to Firefox, Opera, Internet Explorer etc.

donce reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

very buggy. Always crashes filling forms for me.

FmlyRnn reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

This [Safari 3] is a incredible Browser! I never thought that I would ever change IE [Internet Explorer] as my "Default" Browser but I have switched, after all of these years. Furthermore, the "speed" of Safari 3 is what made me switch! I need the speed when I Surf, and check my E-mail. Nevertheless. I will be suggesting Safari 3 to all of my friend's, and Client's!!!
Thank you, FmlyRnn

panic82 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 15, 2007

@zridling I couldn't have said it better myself :).

Still, I'm glad they're making a push to Windows with this particular product. Mostly as a development tool, I couldn't imagine ever giving up Firefox (or IE) for something like this...

DudeBoyz reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

This version on Windows is still not that stable. What does it offer that FireFox doesn't?

I won't even try 3.x on my Mac cause 2.x is working and I don't want to get that buggy junk in my rig.

What happened to Apple? How can their stuff run so great on the Mac but suck on Windows?

Why even make anything for Windows at all? Especially a browser?

smarterthanyou reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

The Safari 3.0.1 update is the first Windows version that enables Apple's Private Browsing feature. This feature didn't work in Safari 3.0.0 even after resetting the browser. So far Safari for Windows seems considerably slower than Firefox 2.0.0.4 at rendering web pages. Safari also has no spell check as you type feature and no ad blocking. I give the browser a 3 since it's at least barely useable.

I do find Apple's claims about Opera being the slowest at rendering web pages very amusing. I didn't think any web browser was slower than Microsoft Internet Explorer.

zridling reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

After this embarrassment, along with itunes and quicktime, I'm not seeing what appleheads rave about. Am I missing something or are these people just blinded like god-believers?

Makes me appreciate Windows more than ever.

Floodland reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

May result to a good browser, but now it lacks every feature that could make the browser of choice.
It does not even add www and .com if you press CTRL-Enter after writing something in the address bar.
Another problem (usual on apple software for windows) is the memory usage. It took 80mb after opening a single news page (that uses flash and java).
It is somewhat slow too, but it has potential. By now, in its second beta it seriously kick the M$ a** all the way, except for market share; but it is far from Opera or Firefox. Keep working apple, I like it.

dreadlox reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Haha, what a joke! Can't even render the simplest webpage without making a total mess. A lot of text is simply missing from the page!

burles07 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

3.0.1. seems to be even more stable than 3.0

I have not had any crashes on either version. all the pages load faster on safari than IE, FF, or any other browser. The only thing I would like to see done to this browser is add more features and icons. Like where is the home page icon? Im guessing it will be in the final version because right now there is a bug report icon? That isnt in the final version of safari for mac. There is a home icon in the final version for mac also. This is beta so there will be problems and not all the features. This software however seems final to me since I have not had any problems. Hopefully we will see new features and icons by final time! :) great work apple! :)

coover reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Looks like Apple has made an improvement with the memory use problem they had in version 3.

After clearing the cache for each of the 4 browsers mentioned below, I found Safari 3.01 using 34468 KB memory on one specific web page. IE 7.0.6000.16473 used 27296 KB on the same page, Firefox 2.04 used 28796 KB, while Opera 9.21 Build 8776 used 26160 KB. The differences between IE, Firefox, and Opera were minimal, whereas Safari seems to use about 25% more memory than the other 3. This is still an improvement for Safari over version 3, which used about twice as much memory as the other 3.

pctech5189 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

This browser Works perfect almost. Just a little slow when loading java apps and i do have the latest java version. It loads fine. Pages Zoom lol. Way Faster Then Firefox. Just can't wait for final version. I use safari alot now starting to like the browser alot.

avacam reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Definitely a WiP. It does load most web pages faster than Firefox and IE though. There are exceptions of course. I tested it using an internet stopwatch site against several well-known domains like google.com, cnn.com, etc.

The 3.0.1 release fixes the issues listed here: http://macdailynews.com/...p/weblog/comments/13925/

Negative points:
-No keyboard shortcut reference in the help documentation, or anywhere else for that matter.
-Doesn't retain proxy settings.
-Crashes from time to time.
-Lack of advanced configuration options.

mentallo666 reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Wow what a craptacular beta this is. All the menus are broken, no icons, doesn't even load a full webpage. Has a LONG way to go.

ecjs reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Safari does not even launch properly.

alanpalmer reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Is there a changelog anywhere? The speed at which they brought out 3.01 suggests urgent bugfixes, but the only thing obvious is that it now remembers window size between sessions. There was an article on the main page about security issues with the Windows version; I wonder if the update includes fixes for those.

AntiochMedia reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

I love Safari for Windows also -- it's a great compliment to Firefox as a lightweight, personal browser without bloat.

I like a few of the innovative features such as all textareas being resizable and think that the Apple trademark lower-right resize handle is fine (the last reviewer wished to be able to resize with the same conventions as standard Windows programs).

I would really appreciate if Apple added in CTRL-ENTER url completion where 'betanews' + CTRL-ENTER added in http:// and .com

The Dave reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

I really like it. It needs a few things but Apple is very good about listening to what their beta testers suggest.

I've had no problems with it and it is just as fast as Firefox and it is faster than IE7 for me.

What needs improved:

1. Something other than the boring default grey theme.

2. Some sort of add-ons or extensions so I can block ads among other things.

3. I cannot resize the browser unless I use the lower right hand corner. It doesn't resize from anywhere else.

4. It will still not warn before closing the browser when multiple tabs are open (even though I have that option checked in prefs).

Heck just between yesterday and today they fixed the window size memory. Now it will remember the size of the window that you last set it at when closed.

I think Apple kicks butt and this is a good first start to a Windows browser.

tickleonthetum reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

AS usual with Apple Safari is nicely presented and does what it is supposed to. However, it is also much slower to load sites than Firefox, a site which took 7 seconds in Firefox to 14 in Safari. This was true of all the other sites I tested, and shows Safari to be about half the speed as Firefox. It also took longer to load even though my Firefox is packed with extentions. For these reasons I can only give it a 3 out of 5. Hopefully, it will improve of the months and it is always nice to see competition for Microsofts strangle hold.

siryak: If you mean the Status Bar then you can switch it on under the View menu, along with a tab bar.

siryak reviewed v3.0.1 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Not good. It is a memory hog for starters. It uses more than any other browser I have used: Opera, FF, IE, Seamonkey. I don't like how the address bar is set up. I also don't like that there is no bottom bar. FF is much faster, uses less memory, and has a wide variety of plugins to give it a large lead on features.

Sven123456789 reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

Overall, Not that good. The gui was nothing to brag about. Plus it lacks allot of features i've grown to like with Firefox and Seamonkey. I guess there might be an audience out there for this. But with all the other stable web browser out there, this pretty much is a wasted effort by Apple.

ShiftedBlue reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 14, 2007

No crashes so far, but Safari is far from being competitive on the Windows platform with the likes of Firefox and Opera. It just doesn't have the features or customization of a full-time, primary browser. It's noticeably faster than the competition, but speed isn't everything.

I hope it'll get better, because there's potential here. For now, though, it's a pass.

burles07 reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 13, 2007

safari is one of the best browsers for windows now IMO. it is fast, not bloated and I have not had any of the bugs that you people have talked about or others have mentioned. i hope they add more features to this program though. its kinda dull right now. i still give it 5 stars because its faster than IE, FF and any other browser.

attanze reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 13, 2007

Opera and Firefox are LightYears ahead. After the IE, Safary is the most worst browser I ever used.

Zankur reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 13, 2007

Complete was of time! nothing it has to offer.stick with whatever ur using on windows.

pctech5189 reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 13, 2007

Lol, everyone that gives this one star dont know anything. This broswer is in beta I tried out the bookmarks and it works so far. Ive bveen testing since it came out and havent seen any major problems. Ive seen one small thing that i keep getting popups using safari maybe a bug ni the popup blocker. Internet Exploer is in trouble now with safari on windows. Safari is way faster then ie and firefox.

Groobar reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

First off, even though Safari 3 for Windows is technically 'beta' - this does not mean pointing out major issues is forbidden.

Frankly when we see fanboys of Apple mocking a user for using Windows when they have a problem with this buggy release and saying the problem is the user & "their computer being plagued with a trojan or virus" is crazy. Fanboy attitudes will not win converts.

Fileforum allows us to review betas. This program is more alpha than anything. Having "too many fonts" (anything above 800) results in no text on webpages as well as the user interface. Playing around with the plist file corrects some of these issues, even for normal (everyday home) users of both Mac and Windows this is a little extreme step when you take into account this is a public open beta, this should be more stable than it currently is. Visiting the Discussion forum on apple.com there is more issues with the Windows beta than Mac, but there are issues on both sides.

When you deal with projects that require unique fonts for work - you don't expect to deal with a browser that fails to work to convince you to remove fonts until it does.

Windows and Mac users have better alternatives at this time; Firefox, Opera, Omniweb, Camino, heck even Windows users are better off with IE7 than this right now.

Oh I also find it sad that some user would change their rating on this buggy browser release because they want to show loyalty. You show loyalty to a product by helping it grow into a better product - not selling out to fanboys. Stand up to ignorant comments people! This can be a nice alternative browser, only if they really add a community to build on and correct the silly bugs... but right now both users of Windows and Mac are better off with an alternative browser than this 'beta.'

alanpalmer reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

I like it. I visited a number of sites that I go to regularly, and it rendered all the pages quickly, and as far as I could see, accurately. I like the MacOS look of the UI and clear font display. It hasn't got an adblocker or some other refinements, so I'll only give it a 4, but it's still in beta so more features may be added later. I'll stick with Opera as my main browser, though.

andrewdownloader reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

Apple really Thinks Different !! They call Beta what the rest of the world calls Alpha.
Safari 3 Beta can't even render the Apple Web Site. Jajaja
The fastes browser on earth?? ...yes: the fastest to crash !!

stevvie reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

it's starts up in a SMALL window and does not remember it's size when restarted.

bigmama reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

well, not so bad...
remember its a beta

one bug??? i dunno :-( bookmarks don't seem to work

some functions like history, proxies are not accessible

i would like middle-click to close tabs

+ a better gui.

tuneslover reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

I am always Windows OS User. I am using Safari for the first time. It's very good software. Speedy than Internet Explorer 7 and same as Firefox(i think). At last I am so hopeful cause it is Beta. I have fall in love with it....

horsecharles reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

Twinsdad, you have computer problems-- it's not a Safari problem.
If you're on Vista and able to actually download the file, right-click setup file and select: run as administrator.

I know that majority of Mac users disdain Safari for Moz variants, but i actually like Safari:
"w/o user fiddling" it's the browser best geared for modern monitors and graphics systems...and as well the default fonts make menus, etc. very readable 'even though they're actually smaller than other browsers' and even when on non-contrasting backgrounds... everything combines to make the browsing experience very visually appealing. Just compare side by side w/ another browser the colors/contrasts/text.

Of course, how very fast sites render is another major plus.
Other pluses: autocomplete, bookmarks & plugins(from other browsers are ready to go-- no importing & downloading needed), page 'snapback' feature...

Yes, there are negatives: back/forward buttons need to popup a selection of page history, popup blocker needs toolbar button AND some options, not every type of embedded video renders correctly or even plays...

All in all, pluses way outweigh negatives...it's definitely worth a try.

TwinsDad reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

I have downloaded from three different sources and all give me the same error trying to install so I can't even see if it is any good. Gotta give it a one for failed installation.

lucianct reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

it doesn't have many options, nor support for themes or extensions. the mouse navigation has few features (i can't use back and forward buttons on my mouse, i can't middle click to scroll pages). and the fonts look different from ie or gecko-based browsers. but i like the khtml engine because it's fast (maybe because there are no extensions - firefox and netscape were fast too, but after installing add-ons they slowed down).

terminalx reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

This is nice but it just feels like a faster firefox without the added functionality of extensions galore.

One thing I have noticed with all Apple software is it likes to make shortcuts and take over your pc (I am looking at you QT)

Personally, I don't like the added toolbar for search on any browser and usually try to get rid of it, but safari doesn't let you do this you either trash the whole address bar or nothing.

I do like that it imported all my bookmarks without me telling it to but you have to go an extra step to get to them.

Honestly, since everything is pretty much the same with both a apple pc and a windows pc I see Apple becoming a software company and ditching their computers.

Zee333 reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

This is nice, real nice.
It loads pages much faster then IE7, Netscape, Mozilla,Firefox & others. It looks nice also, but there are a few things to fix before i will only use this instead of IE7.

arvind reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

Neat browser, but like someone else already said it's got some way to go before it hits primetime..

personally i like the font smoothing effect

poppyq reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

Can't even login to my proxy without it crashing. So much for using it in a work environment.

dzjepp reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

First impressions are good. Never used this browser before, but it seems really fast and responsive. Probably moreso than IE or Firefox. I also like the default font, it's much thicker and looks nicer (at least to me) than the one in Firefox.

I imagine many people will fault it for using lots of ram though. As of this writing: 1 page open (betanews.com) and it's using close to 130mb.

ZenWarrior reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 12, 2007

Funny, but indifference here, too. It does navigate between pages quickly, especially those cached. On the other hand, I could almost have soft-boiled an egg as I waited for it to initially load.

Interface? As someone noted, it's as clean as IE7, but I've not really liked that look since its inception. That said, I'd say the two are pretty much equal.

Marketing note to Apple: Had you really wanted me to use it for a while, especially after opening it for the very first time, you'd have enabled me to easily import my IE faves. Sorry, but I'll not be typing any URLs anew over the next few days, at least.

All that said, I now realize how completely spoiled I am by Maxthon. Just one thing as an example. Without even thinking, I performed a super drag-n-drop with Safari (to write this review), but nothing happened. No new tab opened with the link's URL. :^) (Oops.) Also, I can't believe all the ads I've never before seen! The internet is a flashing billboard!

In sum, I don't find that much more special with Safari over any other browser. I'd even say it's a step behind most Windows browsers. Given there's room enough on hard drives these days, I'll keep it installed and use it occasionally as a diversion from the tedium of some boring day.

(Dzamn, there's also no spell-cheker add-on. Jeesh, search is really lacking, too. And, that's it for customizing my toolbars? Again, super-spoiled by Maxthon.)

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

I am quite indifferent at the moment. Most people are crazy for Apple software and Safari is one of thangs that people love. My initial observations

+ Fast, fast, fast - It's snappier than Internet Explorer 7 by far

+ Clean Interface - That rivals that of IE7. The only difference is that IE7 actually looks right for Vista.

- Fonts don't work well in Vista - I prefer IE7's cleartype fonts anyday. They are much more enjoyable on the eyes.

- Clunky when maximizing - they need to work on compatibility with Aero. Otherwise the effects inside the browser are nice.

--
I can see using this in the future. But in my opinion it only competes with Firefox for hard drive space on my PC. After all, IE is necessary and I don't have room to use two more. Lets see how Mozilla and Apple duke it out in the next couple of months.

urbanriot reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Horribly slow to load compared to Firefox, let alone Internet Explorer or Opera. Address bar is funny - you can't right click and select all, or select the address bar text quickly like other browsers. Although the browsing experience itself is smooth and the rendering seems quick. I also did not experience any browser or application errors.

h377r1d3r reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

now most of ppl, will go ooo... this feature is kewl, mmm... wow; mind u though everything wow about safari was long time included in firefox or opera; but thats the way apple business style works = use someone's idea, and promote it as wow man if ur kewl u gona have to use our kewl product;

VanillaDeath reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Akeru:
As for the mouse button issue, you can Program-specific map them to Alt+Left or Ctrl+[ for back and Alt+Right or Ctrl+] for Forward and they'll work.

I think this is a nice step by Apple, but I'll be sticking to Firefox for functionality.

urbanriot:
Click the favicon to select all.

Akeru reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Slow and clunky. Ugly fonts, high CPU/RAM utilization. Basic Windows functions cannot be performed within the browser. Mouse buttons do not work with Back/Forward functionality. No import/export feature for bookmarks. Cannot mass-highlight when editing bookmarks. Does not fully maximize and does not like to stay maximized after minimizing. Cannot mouse over cryptic icons to view their actual function.

Well, that's all I've found in about 10 minutes of using it so far. This browser might be good enough for Apple zealots, but it can't cut it in Windows.

Jordanr05 reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

So far I'm impressed. I haven't had any of the crashing issues others have noted, and pages seem to load lightning fast.

There are of course a few quirks, but being the first beta/port to windows, I'm giving this a 5. I can't wait to see how it progresses.

Eric20 reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

I installed it on Vista with no problems. Really liking it a lot. I doubt it will replace Firefox for me. But its a great alternative.. Pages seem to load faster than in Firefox.

I'm not having any memory leak issues it seems to take less than Firefox on my machine.

Overall, try it! I applaud Apple for trying to reach out to PC users. Hopefully they will port more of their OSX programs to Windows in the future.

castiglione reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

This application is a nice application. I like it. It works well on my computer (Windows XP).

Black-Wolf reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Nice!! That's a welcome move Apple!

It's still buggy because it is a beta.

When I open Bookmark, then click on Show All Bookmark it crashes.

molumen reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Hmmm... Safari for windows... Why not, since there as been an IE for Mac. It looks more like an experiment rather than a serious step, but it could be interesting for webdesigners, so they can test their websites in Safari too.

It is still unstable (it crashes on My WinXP very often) but it is not surprising since it is still a beta. Also, it has big problems with Trebuchet MS (a standard windows unicode font). When this font is used in cyrillic (UTF-8), safari just doesn't show it.

Anyway I give it a 4, because I think that the porting of Safari to windows is a positive step.

coover reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Safari for Windows ... what a surprise.

It loaded on my Vista machine with absolutely no problems. But it looks like it will take some getting used to. It seems to take several clicks to get it to open full page, and I haven't found an easy way to actually import my bookmarks (I have more than 1000), though I have found some unacceptable "round-about" ways to get to them and use them.

And boy does it take memory. With one particular web page open, Safari consumed 63 MB of memory. Testing the same web page with other browsers, IE 7 used 43 MB, Firefox 2.0.0.4 used 33 MB, and Opera 9.21 only 26 MB. Please note that that I am not trying to say that anyone of the other browsers is better because they use less memory, but memory does seem to be a flaw.

I really haven't spent enough time with Safari to know whether or not it renders most web pages properly, but I have not yet seen any problems there.

By the way, when installing, I was given to option to allow automatic updates or not for any and all Apple software on this computer. Having had problems with other Apple Software trying to update automatically (Quick Time), I opted out. But just the fact that Apple wanted me to allow this option irritated me. I would have preferred that the option not even be offered.

DudeBoyz reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

I'm a huge Apple fan. I have a 24" iMac. I use Safari on that platform.

But there is no need for this program on Windows. It is not as efficient as Maxthon / IE, nor as flexible as FireFox / SeaMonkey. It does not have a bunch of skins and plug-ins like FireFox does, so what makes it any better? Nothing, as far as I can tell.

I bought a Mac because it's not a PC. I don't want my PC turning into a Mac. Jobs might as well just release OS X for all hardware platforms and finish destroying everything that made Mac hardware and the Mac platform unique.

Slug_Coordinator reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

People seem to forget to clean their system, and as mentioned checked for spyware, malware, adware, and also virus and trojans...

Safari Beta works fine and is very responsive... I to welcome new Browsers that work... There is a few quarks but nothing worth mentioning...

Easy to change things and set preferences and other options...
Have even uploaded things through it like I.E. I like it...

Can't wait to see how well the final release will work...

I have loaded this now on 3 PC's and 2 Laptops and works fine...
Also make sure you have all your updates loaded people and such...

SC...

oubeaver reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Shadowkahn and sadred:

You might want to check your computers for spyware and/or viruses. Don't blame the software if it doesn't work on your computers but amazingly works on other computers just fine. IT IS YOUR COMPUTER AND IT IS A B-E-T-A!!!!

Oh yeah....review....

I like it. Was never a big Apple fan and I can't stand iTunes. But having one more nice looking browser to use it always welcome. Looking forward to final release.

Paul Skinner reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

It's fast at loading web pages, yes.
But it's another resource hog from Apple.

Opera: 60MB of RAM used for 16 tabs
Safari: 60MB of RAM used for 2 tabs

That's awful.

I hope to God that it renders exactly the same as the Mac version, otherwise it's another browser to test with as a web developer.

If it does, it has some value to me.

And yes, trying to open the 'File', 'Edit', 'View' buttons is terrifyingly slow.

@poster below: "The "browser war" just got really interesting!"

No, it didn't. Safari currently has 0% of the Windows browser market. That isn't interesting.
Give it 2 years, *then* it'll be interesting.

darthbeads reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Holy schnickies! Safari for Windows! The "browser war" just got really interesting! So far, installation was a breeze, and browsing is responsive and perfectly speedy for me. Wish there were more options for controlling tabs and the appearance, but a great start nonetheless...!

Shadowkahn reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

Well with all the excitement concerning WWDC 2007 Keynote, and the announcement of a Windows Version of Safari it seems that quality control did not check this beta out. Installing the beta went fine, running Safari is another matter... No text at all, images load from the default Apple site, but oddly no text in address bar nor for the "File, Edit, View, etc" pane. Clicking on the areas where you would expect File results in a blank box where options should appear. Trying to enter text into the address bar results in nothing being displayed. So technically this is more alpha than beta for me. I don't think I'll try the beta on my Mac at this moment either - kind of concerned simply by the state/experience of the Windows version.

*Update* Well to everyone that wants to claim that the issue is with a computer user with 'virus, trojan, etc' or is not updated fully - you need to hop over to the Discussion on apple's site. Computers I have tested this on result in the same issue, computers are clean and up-to-date (It's my job to keep them so). We are not the only individuals with an issue just check out and help your fellow users at Apple's Discussion site for Safari.

But there seems to be a fix for some of the missing text, you install the fonts in Safari's Safari.resources folder into Windows Fonts folder, rename Safari.resources to something else *like safari.resource* temporarily - launch Safari, it won't run of course. Now rename safari.resource back to its original name safari.resources and you will be able to see what you are missing. Just to let you know I'm using Safari 3 Beta on Windows XP right now... There are a few pages still that are missing text etc, it could be an issue with 'default font' in the Edit>Prefrences, I'll look into this a little more. And to show my support to Apple I will raise my original score from 1 to 3.

sadred reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

wtf... I don't know others but I'm trying it and it doesn't work at all... slow as hell, menus do not display, etc. etc.

new_jamie reviewed v3 Beta on Jun 11, 2007

It's fookin' fast! Well done Mr Jobs