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Mozilla Firefox for Windows Mozilla Firefox for Windows 108.0 for Windows

by Mozilla

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File Size 51.8 MB
License Freeware
Operating System Windows (All)
Date Added
Total Downloads 1,234,715
Publisher Mozilla
Homepage Mozilla Firefox
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Publisher's Description

Mozilla Firefox is a free and open source Web browser descended from the Mozilla Application Suite and managed by Mozilla Corporation. Firefox is the second most widely used browser.

To display web pages, Firefox uses the Gecko layout engine, which implements most current web standards in addition to several features that are intended to anticipate likely additions to the standards.

Latest Reviews

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v91.0 on Aug 11, 2021

Still my main browser. No other browser has nearly as many add on's

Moler_Stagi

Moler_Stagi reviewed v90.0 on Jul 18, 2021

I like that it is easy and fast but it needs some upgrads

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v90.0 on Jul 12, 2021

Fast AF now under LLVM 12 and latest Rust. Plus, they finally figured out a good way to get proper crash reporting info out of Linux. With 91 being the next new ESR release, we'll see a bump to a stable LLVM 12.0.1 / Rust 1.53 combo so that should bring even better perf on Desktop, Android and M1. Took a while for Mozilla folks to get to this point after the massive layoffs but glad to see focus back on where it matters most: performance, not gimmicky features no one will use.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v86.0 on Feb 23, 2021

A huge improvement in rendering performance over 85 and earlier versions, especially on my crappy Nexus 5X and old Latitude E6510. When they moved to LLVM 11.0.1, the overall performance boost was tangible. I had my doubts before but it looks like Mozilla is getting back to making FF better and, finally, faster. I don't know how much Rust 1.49 contributed to 86's performance improvements though. Maybe it helped the Android and Apple M1 crowd?

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v85.0 on Jan 25, 2021

Yay, they finally killed Flash support. At least doing that reduiced the installer size. Yes, the browser feels snappier than 84 and 83. I can feel they've made strides in improving performance. Very snappy on my crappy old E6510. 86 is going to get an even better performance boost. Things are looking up for Mozilla. Glad the layoffs didn't kill progress.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v85.0 on Jan 25, 2021

Firefox 85 is out, code name: what did they f**k up this time.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v84.0 on Dec 18, 2020

Can still customize and hack the crap out of it. JavaScript performance on some artificial benchmarks is still down since switching to WARP. Mem use is still lower as well which is great for lower power machines / 32-bit crowd. Let's hope FF85 is all they promised and more with further WARP improvements and better Webrender support for the Linux folks. Mozilla is on a roll so let's hope they don't screw the pooch and do something dumb.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v83.0 on Nov 17, 2020

I can customize and hack the crap out of FF to this day and can't say the same for other mainstream browsers. Can't say I notice much speed improvement on the front end but my machines are Ivy Bridge so maybe a bit long in the tooth to realize the new improvements. Mem use does seem to be lower on my machine so that's always a plus. Still, we have to wait until FF 84 before we can realize Rust 1.47's improvements and FF85 before the rest of what they intended to improve in FF83 (WARP). By then the MASSIVE Rust 1.48 release should be helping improve FF perf. At least I hope.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v82.0.1 on Oct 27, 2020

Feels more responsive on my old machines but a lot of code in FF seems to have prevented LLVM 11's performance boost for being actualized. In fact, perf went down a bit on some artificial benchmarks. It looks like *only* by FF84 will we see Rust 1.47 be pulled in. This will hurt FF numbers, perf and user experience for another 2 months.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v81.0 on Sep 21, 2020

With Mozilla having suffered a huge employee base culling due to Covid sapping the global economy and workforce, it's forced them to really put a finer point on what matter most: a solid, fast browser experience. 80 was a look at things to come. 81 seems to have polished the improvements. 82, I see, has finally switched over to using LLVM 11-rc2....but not Rust 1.46? Come on Mozilla. That would make the Linux folks SUPER happy and help with Android a lot. I guess we'll have to wait until v83.

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Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v91.0 on Aug 11, 2021

Pros: Some of the browsers I used to use don't get updated nearly as much. Firefox sends out updates on a regular basis

Cons: None

Bottom Line: Still my main browser. No other browser has nearly as many add on's

Moler_Stagi

Moler_Stagi reviewed v90.0 on Jul 18, 2021

Pros: easy and fast

Cons: low features

Bottom Line: I like that it is easy and fast but it needs some upgrads

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v90.0 on Jul 12, 2021

Pros: Fast AF now under LLVM 12 and latest Rust. They finally figured out a good way to get proper crash reporting info on Linux.

Cons: Still lags in a few artificial benchmarks but daily use is on par with Chrome's speed.

Bottom Line: Fast AF now under LLVM 12 and latest Rust. Plus, they finally figured out a good way to get proper crash reporting info out of Linux. With 91 being the next new ESR release, we'll see a bump to a stable LLVM 12.0.1 / Rust 1.53 combo so that should bring even better perf on Desktop, Android and M1. Took a while for Mozilla folks to get to this point after the massive layoffs but glad to see focus back on where it matters most: performance, not gimmicky features no one will use.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v86.0 on Feb 23, 2021

Pros: A marked improvement in rendering performance over 85 and earlier version.

Cons: By now FF should be leveraging more of the GPU when and where possible to offload rendering. The new Warp Javascript engine still needs some fixing up to bring back performance in a few non-mainstream areas.

Bottom Line: A huge improvement in rendering performance over 85 and earlier versions, especially on my crappy Nexus 5X and old Latitude E6510. When they moved to LLVM 11.0.1, the overall performance boost was tangible. I had my doubts before but it looks like Mozilla is getting back to making FF better and, finally, faster. I don't know how much Rust 1.49 contributed to 86's performance improvements though. Maybe it helped the Android and Apple M1 crowd?

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v85.0 on Jan 25, 2021

Pros: Finally killed Flash. the most hated thing ever invented.

Cons: None.

Bottom Line: Yay, they finally killed Flash support. At least doing that reduiced the installer size. Yes, the browser feels snappier than 84 and 83. I can feel they've made strides in improving performance. Very snappy on my crappy old E6510. 86 is going to get an even better performance boost. Things are looking up for Mozilla. Glad the layoffs didn't kill progress.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v85.0 on Jan 25, 2021

Pros: all

Cons: all

Bottom Line: Firefox 85 is out, code name: what did they f**k up this time.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v84.0 on Dec 18, 2020

Pros: Still the most customizable.

Cons: Still needs to improve JavaScript perf as compared to Chrome. Linux WebRender support improving but should be better at this stage in the game.

Bottom Line: Can still customize and hack the crap out of it. JavaScript performance on some artificial benchmarks is still down since switching to WARP. Mem use is still lower as well which is great for lower power machines / 32-bit crowd. Let's hope FF85 is all they promised and more with further WARP improvements and better Webrender support for the Linux folks. Mozilla is on a roll so let's hope they don't screw the pooch and do something dumb.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v83.0 on Nov 17, 2020

Pros: Still the most open and modular out there.

Cons: Should really be leveraging Rust 1.47 and LLVM 11's perf improvements by now.

Bottom Line: I can customize and hack the crap out of FF to this day and can't say the same for other mainstream browsers. Can't say I notice much speed improvement on the front end but my machines are Ivy Bridge so maybe a bit long in the tooth to realize the new improvements. Mem use does seem to be lower on my machine so that's always a plus. Still, we have to wait until FF 84 before we can realize Rust 1.47's improvements and FF85 before the rest of what they intended to improve in FF83 (WARP). By then the MASSIVE Rust 1.48 release should be helping improve FF perf. At least I hope.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v82.0.1 on Oct 27, 2020

Pros: Snappier page loads.

Cons: Still not leveraging Rust 1.46/1.47 and all the best of LLVM 11.

Bottom Line: Feels more responsive on my old machines but a lot of code in FF seems to have prevented LLVM 11's performance boost for being actualized. In fact, perf went down a bit on some artificial benchmarks. It looks like *only* by FF84 will we see Rust 1.47 be pulled in. This will hurt FF numbers, perf and user experience for another 2 months.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v81.0 on Sep 21, 2020

Pros: Still the best for privacy and securty.

Cons: Have to wait until FF82 for LLVM 11 performance benefits.

Bottom Line: With Mozilla having suffered a huge employee base culling due to Covid sapping the global economy and workforce, it's forced them to really put a finer point on what matter most: a solid, fast browser experience. 80 was a look at things to come. 81 seems to have polished the improvements. 82, I see, has finally switched over to using LLVM 11-rc2....but not Rust 1.46? Come on Mozilla. That would make the Linux folks SUPER happy and help with Android a lot. I guess we'll have to wait until v83.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v80.0 on Aug 27, 2020

Pros: Not Google Chrome
Has a bookmarks sidebar
Very customizable through about:config or userchrome.css

Cons: Not sure I like the direction Mozilla is going. Seems they try harder every day to be a Google clone

Bottom Line: Still the most customizable browser, period. Although some customization has been lost with the the XUL extensions now not allowed, It is still my favorite browser.

Everyone seems to be using Google Chrome these days, but I refuse to install Google spyware on my system and use a browser that will not allow a REAL Bookmarks Sidebar

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v80.0 on Aug 27, 2020

Pros: Best of all latest browsers

Cons: Been down this road for awhile, but allot of the old add on's dont work for some time now. But still, enough newer ones work that make this my primary browser

Bottom Line: Allot of the minor browsers I have use in the last few years either aren't updated or not compatible with some websites. I've tried all the big boys. Chrome, Edge, Opera, whatever version of IE still exits. I still come back to the mozilla browsers as my main choice. Still have Pale Moon as a backup browser but Firefox is my main browser again.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v80.0 on Aug 27, 2020

Pros: Still the best open source browser.

Cons: Being held back by trying to make it what it's not.

Bottom Line: It's not perfect and has gone in some questionable directions but it's return to form is welcome. Mozilla sticking to waht works and not trying to reinvent the wheel is a good idea going forward. It's been held back by the fact that LLVM 10 hates it but looks like the prospect of moving to LLVM 11 for v82 is going to be a huge performance win across all platforms. All the work that Martin Stransky did for Linux folks is very welcome. Should only get better from here!

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v78.0.2 on Jul 9, 2020

Pros: New add-ons are increasing after the "great purge."

Cons: Still stuck on LLVM 9 and Rust 1.43. Should have been moved to LLVM 10 by now. 10.0.1 is about to be released. Tsk tsk.

Bottom Line: Still my go to browsers, especially on my Android. Yes, it is battery hungry on Android but hoping when 78 ESR is released it'll be better and faster! Snappier than 77 was on my old work PC. 80 is going to be a HUGE boon for Linux folks. Good job Mozilla.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v77.0 on Jun 2, 2020

Pros: Working so much better for Linux. Windows version has lost a bit of perf recently. Could be due to still not being on Clang 10 and newer Rust.

Cons: Could be faster given the version number.

Bottom Line: Still a solid browser and you always know what you're getting. Would like to see it built on Clang 10 and Rust 1.43 by 78 but doesn't look like it will. Bummer.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v75.0 on Apr 6, 2020

Pros: Still has great add-on support

Cons: Score a bit lower on some artificial benchmarks.

Bottom Line: Slug Coordinator is a twonk.

Slug_Coordinator

Slug_Coordinator reviewed v74.0 on Mar 11, 2020

Pros: Pros, Firefox has made me move to Waterfox far superior...........

Cons: Con's it wiped out many plugins I use thus stopped using it and went to Waterfox.

Bottom Line: Update the Screen Shot of the Current Programs the Image is years outdated.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v70.0 on Oct 22, 2019

Pros: Getting faster with every iteration and still runs well on my old clunky E6510 @ Win 10 X64. Although FF70 only got a minor perf bump from Rust 1.37 and LLVM 8.0.1, FF71 is moving to LLVM 9.0.0 and, if we're lucky, Rust 1.38 so it should see a good perf improvement as well. Still needs to work on the JavaScript speed to match Chrome but who gives a fornicate about JavaScript anyway.

Cons: Needs some work in a few performance areas.

Bottom Line: Maybe not as fast as Chrome in a few benchmarks but certainly runs circles around Chrome on my Android in terms of *NOT* suffering browser hijacks and other issues. Works well for what I need and still gettign faster with every version.

Pkshadow

Pkshadow reviewed v68.0.1 on Aug 1, 2019

Pros: All new code written in Rust with no more Netscape code to be found in it now.
Big leap in code and Firefox gets more stable every release.

Cons: Not enough info for going into Firefox's guts from About:Config to be able to turn off things like the new Recommended Addons (which you can).
This info should be out so people do not need to go to the Support Forum to find the answer.

Using other browsers that are built using Firefox code can be less secure and are not released at the same time nor are security updates/fixes.

Bottom Line: Not sure why this is up as 68.0.1 was released July 18.
Am thinking since the beta version of 69 is in the last faze of testing it will be released shortly.

For Extensions there are more than enough alternative ones to be found built by other Developers that are more secure and does not crash Firefox with their buggy old code as it used to.
Most older Extensions/addons were abandoned by their Developers and were not getting fixed or updated as Firefox progressed with forward thinking code and fresh ideas.

For XP users sorry but you should not be out on the net as you are a hazard to other users with a non-supported OS.
Should be kept for playing older games or running older programs.
Linux is a Viable alternative to XP.
Please install it and consider other net users.

The cloud backup is a Option only. You do not have to use Sync at all as it is not a backup. Sync is for transferring data from 1 device to another so that they are the same. Thus is named Sync.
If wanting backup use proper backup software to do so.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v68.0 on Jul 9, 2019

Pros: Fast AF.

Cons: Could always be faster.

Bottom Line: Being that Mozilla doesn't make add-ons and if your precious add-on isn't yet updated, complain to the author, not Mozilla. Giving 1 star for this is idiotic. Like complaining about lack of driver support for XP. Get over it.

68 is a nice perf improvement over the 60.x ESR series. Webrenderer is nice perf improvement too.

Slug_Coordinator

Slug_Coordinator reviewed v67.0.1 on Jun 6, 2019

Pros: None ... There is no PROS anymore absolutely None its bloated its slow it shreds all backups and wont let you go back and restore as you once had. Stop forcing a Cloud Backup my Data stays on MY PC as well as my Files period.

Cons: Since 52.01 its gone down hill. Most of the Addons I use for various things no longer were allowed to remain and the Installation deleted it all. I could not go back because it screws up saved book marks and passwords.

Luckily the last backups i manually made were still in tact passwords, bookmarks etc.,

Now I use Waterfox while its updated they dont just wipe out old Addon's it has the latest security and enhancements without the crap the original Firefox has become.

I will never go back to Raw Firefox for anything there was absolutely no reason not to give warning. Also with other Firefox releases you use to be able to uninstall / reinstall the older version nope not after 52.01 all backups, all passwords files are zapped because of the way it re complies things and the new layout sucks.........

Bottom Line: Get Waterfox faster, lets you keep you original Addons Firefox Downloads had which some are important or useful in backup, protection, etc., Were done here Mozilla and thanks for deleting virtually all original addon downloads ......

ankur9

ankur9 reviewed v67.0.1 on Jun 4, 2019

Pros: Much faster than other browser
Browser opening time is lower than google chrome

Cons: Some time it updates automatically.

Bottom Line: a good browser.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v67.0 on May 20, 2019

Pros: Fast on my crappy old laptop and it just got faster with 67.

Cons: None.

Bottom Line: I noticed certain sites load much faster on 67 than with 66 and before. CNN loads in 1.5 seconds whereas before it took about 3 seconds. And I'm using a 7+ year old laptop. 68 should be even faster. Thanks Mozilla.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v66.0.5 on May 8, 2019

Pros: Still the best

Cons: Stick with one compiler

Bottom Line: Still my go-to browser. Still customizable right down to the CSS code or via about:config.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v66.0.2 on Mar 27, 2019

Pros: Easy to tweak and lock down. Doesn't spy out and target you with ads like Chrome.

Cons: Pick a GD compiler and stick with it!

Bottom Line: Still my go-to when all else fails or is just trying to make money off me.

toshibawhite

toshibawhite reviewed v66.0.1 on Mar 27, 2019

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Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v65.0.1 on Feb 15, 2019

Pros: Still open source and getting faster with each version.

Cons: Built with Clang now. Benchmarks show Clang still has a lot of catching up to do to gcc or VS2017. Printing can sometimes be hit or miss but I guess it depends on the web site and how it's coded.

Bottom Line: I still trust Firefox far more than Chrome or Opera. You can still customize it but certainly much of the power tuning is being hidden in about:config rather than the Options menu. While it has become a tad more naggy recently, you can always turn off the nags as before. The Android version still needs work to be faster but I don't get browser hijacks like Chrome. Chrome is killing Firefox in speed on Android but no surprise as it's a Google product.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v64.0 on Dec 26, 2018

Pros: better than other browsers

Cons: spyware checks for update
nagware keeps to asking to update
huge memory consumption
not recommended for weak machines

Bottom Line: spyware, nagware and bloat.
just a typical modern browser.

methuselah

methuselah reviewed v64.0 on Dec 10, 2018

Pros: still a decent browser with decent privacy

Cons: version 64 loses RSS feeds

Bottom Line: overall a good browser.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v64.0 on Dec 10, 2018

Pros: Still the most widely used. (Pssst...Chrome's numbers reflect Android usage not so much desktop usage). Fanboys won't admit it but it's a fact Jack. If it wasn't for Andoid, Chrome would already be relegated to the annuls of Also Ran browsers.

Cons: Printing support needs a lot of work. It's often mangled or not formatted very well. I don't like the new autoupdater. Unless you know how to get into the config editor, you cannot turn it completely off. Geez, is everyone going the way of forced autoupdates?

Bottom Line: Still better than a kick in the pants and poke in the eye.

dr_white

dr_white reviewed v62.0.2 on Sep 28, 2018

Pros: Didn't try to eat my face.

Cons: No use now that its just a copy of Chrome.

Bottom Line: Used to be good, now its chrome with a skin.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v61.0.1 on Aug 7, 2018

Pros: fast piggy

Cons: huge resource hog
had to use userchrome mods top get it looking better.
now has sufficient addon and api support.
solved high cpu use on youtube,
67% on a i7 cpu, it was the chat frame, so i used ublock to
block the whole chat frame. cpu still a little high compared to chrome, but tolerable.

Bottom Line: still not as good as

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v59.0.2 on Mar 29, 2018

Pros: good

Cons: a few

Bottom Line: I went a bit overboard with my first review. After using 59 for a while I like most everything about it. As time went on, I found FF to be rather slow in page rendering, slow to load my home page, some sights not loading photos and sometimes freezing. Overall, Slimjet is a better performer, but it's so damn ugly that I don't like using it. FF is good looking, but doesn't live up to all the hoopla and propaganda that preceded it.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v59.0 on Mar 14, 2018

Pros: Very good

Cons: none

Bottom Line: 59 is well designed and responds well. It's easy on the eyes and also quite fast. All in all, I'm quite pleased. It seems that FF has won me back. Well done.

devchatterjeeseo

devchatterjeeseo reviewed v58.0 on Jan 28, 2018

Pros: Big improvement!

Cons: None!

Bottom Line: As an SEO professional, browser speed is crucial. I am also testing and tweaking constantly. Interesting to see all future updates.

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Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v57.0.1 on Dec 1, 2017

Pros: very very fast

Cons: not too many

Bottom Line: Fortunately I was able to find alternatives to most of my old addons, and once I did that and got them all configured things are working pretty good. FF feels like a real, professional browsing product now, although its still very slow on Android compared to the competition. The real problem is the neglect FF gave to its user base, they should have improved the speed literally 5 years ago, but they were too busy integrating pocket and 15 other things no one asked for. Mozilla is probably dead within a year, but I can finally say that FF is a real broswer again.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v57.0 on Nov 16, 2017

Pros: None

Cons: Its over

Bottom Line: The slide continues. With 57 most net users will move on to prob chrome or like me, other mozilla/gecko clones. RIP FF

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v57.0 on Nov 14, 2017

Pros: it works

Cons: chrome clone
hardly any usefull addons
slower than v56

ver startup mem

57 -no addons 15s 302MB
56 -no addons 10s 222MB
56 -26 addons 7s 345MB

Bottom Line: yes
i need 26 addons to fix ff
now they really forked it up
and cant be fixed
bc the old addons wont run

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v57.0 on Nov 14, 2017

Pros: .Cleaned up code/engine, MUCH better.

Cons: Some broken addons... for now.

Bottom Line: BIG improvement since version 50, a version that started making Firefox sluggish for me, this vastly new version 57 resolves the problem I was having. No stuttering live streaming, no browser sluggishness. It's fast and snappy.

However, this version breaks a LOT of addons. Until either Video DownloadHelper or KeepVid Pro comes out with a compatible update, I can only give Firefox 4 stars for now, and thus can't use as main browser. I need an ad blocker (AdGuard works just fine) and a video downloader, those are the only two addons I truly really need.

landfish

landfish reviewed v57.0 on Nov 13, 2017

Pros: non

Cons: heaps

Bottom Line: I'll stick with 56.02, 57 looks and feels terrible ... when will they learn.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v56.0.2 on Oct 25, 2017

Pros: Its Dead

Cons: Its Dead

Bottom Line: Firefox had an edge at one point due to a robust addon community, but they just killed that completely. So the browser is 100% dead, time to move on from this corpse.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v56.0.1 on Oct 9, 2017

Pros: Still fast browsing wise

Cons: Most complete themes from the old days no longer work.

Bottom Line: version 56 was o.k. but this update to 56.0.1 killed my fav theme. I also fooled around with version 57. Wow, that killed all my add on's. Including an important one called classic theme restorer. Like allot users, I'll move on from Firefox now.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v56.0.1 on Oct 8, 2017

Pros: non

Cons: loss of add-ons is not good.

Bottom Line: Looks like FF is going backwards not forward.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v56.0.1 on Oct 6, 2017

Pros: fast

Cons: all extensions will be gone soon

Bottom Line: Sorry firefox I cant follow you this time, the change is too big and losing all my addons is just not acceptable for the speed increase, which honestly you should have been working on speed 4 years ago, now its too late. If they are just going to turn themselves into Chrome, then why wouldnt I just use chrome? The whole reason I was using Firefox is because its NOT CHROME!

Waterfox is working fine for now, I'll stick with it as long as I can.

Picasso

Picasso reviewed v54.0.1 on Jun 30, 2017

Firefox is the best browser imho but it's not as fast as Chrome I'm sorry to say.

psycros

psycros reviewed v54.0.1 on Jun 29, 2017

Mozilla has turned Firefox into a painful joke.

* Same filenames used for 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
* Install process that tries to install 90's-era background monitor. Puts a shortcut on your taskbar without asking.
* Bloat, bloat and more bloat. Nodody gives a damn about Pocket, "reader mode" or the other garbage. Thankfully it can all be disabled with a little bit of tweaking.
* Change for change's sake has driven off many of the best addon developers.
* Default UI is a copy-n-paste of Chrome. Thank god for Classic Theme Restorer..but how long until idiots at Mozilla decide to break it?
* Breaks about a third of e-commerce sites I've visited over the past six months.
* SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. So, so, slow.

So if FF looks just like Chrome, has driven most of the best devs to Chrome and its slower and breaks more sites than Chrome...why not just use Chrome? After well over a decade of championing FF I have switched to Chromium as my primary browser out of necessity. I don't use anything that requires a Google login so Chromium is the closest thing I can find to what FF used to be.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v54.0 on Jun 18, 2017

Working very well, indeed.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v54.0 on Jun 17, 2017

running fine on my 3 year old PC - latest Windows 10 build 64-bit, 16GB RAM, SSD. i tried this new build of Firefox for a week, before that i tried Chrome. both run fast enough. I think firefox is running faster with this new v54. Before this i had XP running and firefox froze when 2GB memory limit was reached. hence my upgrade to 64-bit Windows. good job Firefox way to go!! ignore the last 2 reviwers, pair of ???? haha

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v54.0 on Jun 17, 2017

Have to agree here, Firefox has become a bloated piece of junk that definitely does not work correctly. The took out the good stuff and put in the code that just simply does not work correctly. One idea I had and it seems to work well, get a build before Firefox 50 and it seems to be ok, but still can be slow. I got rid of all firefox browsers, it is not worth the aggravation it gives you and you hope when you install their newest it will be fixed and work correctly. Maybe all of us live in Fantasy land too long, time to move on, Firefox is a has been and now it is time to go to another until it breaks down also. Even Cyberfox is slowing down greatly and does not work correctly as it should all the time. Sad, the fox is a has been in all new builds.. (:

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v54.0 on Jun 15, 2017

I've tried and tried and tried to resolve recent Firefox issue of stuttering animations, like on Bing homepage if they have an animated daily wallpaper, or with videos, including live streaming like on Xfinity TV. Issue happens on both Win7 32-bit and Win10 64-bit, both being Duo Core Intels with decent graphics cards (one AMD and one Nvidia). My best result at trying to resolve the issue was on Win10 64-bit with installing 32-bit FF, but still falls short on performance. Somewhere between versions 45 and 53, something got messed up by the Mozilla developers. Firefox ESR 45 works just fine, but an upgrade to FF 52 ESR or even 53 monthly build brings the debilitating issue. I highly doubt the issue has been resolved with this new monthly release, and I also highly doubt the Mozilla developers even care, and suspect they do know of the issue. Chrome, Edge and even Maxthon does not have the issues mentioned.

Because of this, I have dumped FF on Windows 7 and only keep FF 32-bit as a standby browser on Windows 10 64-bit.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v53.0.2 on May 8, 2017

My home page is appearing again instead of a blank page and after dozens of times of installing and uninstalling, because of assorted problems, it finally seems to be working well, so far. If it starts screwing up, I have WaterFox waiting in the wings.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v53.0.2 on May 6, 2017

Wouldn't know. Haven't used Firebloat in about a year.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v53.0.2 on May 6, 2017

Firefox has abandoned its faithful users and had decided to become a clone of google chrome. The one thing that made this browser stand out was the ability to customize it and use add-ons that were extremely useful to get things done. Now about 80% of the current addons will not work since they are dropping support for XUL/XPCOM, Goodbye Firefox, hello WATERFOX

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v53.0.2 on May 5, 2017

Been having black screen flashes and flickering within the browser with the recent Firefox update on two PCs, was rare, but happening nonetheless. Hopefully this release fixes it, being they state it also has stability fixes.

3 stars because of the recent stability issues mentioned, 4 1/2 stars if this update fixes the issue.

smuttinata

smuttinata reviewed v53.0 on Apr 30, 2017

Version 53.0 - So slow and draggy and took forever to open webpages. Had to go back to ESR 45.7. Very disappointing.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v53.0 on Apr 22, 2017

Waterfox is doing very well and firefox is not. The latest is that my home page does not come up and I get a blank screen. This has been the case with at least the last three "upgrades" of FF. I doubt that FF will ever be right again. FF has s*** the bed.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v53.0 on Apr 19, 2017

Sorry Firefox, Ive used you faithfully since you rose from the ashes of Netscape's collapse way back when. I have endorsed you faithfully to my friends, and you have always been the most customizable browser EVER.

NO MORE. With your announcement of discontinuing support for XUL/XPCOM it seems that a lot of the add-ons I have come to rely on will no longer be supported. I just don't like the direction that this browser is moving and it is time to go our separate ways. I have tried Pale Moon, but eventually settled on WATERFOX. All of my add-ons, bookmarks etc. migrated perfectly to my new default browser.

Thank you Firefox, good luck with your new Chrome Cloning strategy., I hope it works out for you, but I'm afraid the one thing that made you great is gone, and you will soon meet the same fate as Netscape.

Roman Pillow

Roman Pillow reviewed v51.0 on Jan 24, 2017

Monkey Punch, you have to remember that a fresh install will *always* perform better than an existing one with addons and accumulated garbage of use over time. Overall, Mozilla is doing pretty average to what the should be.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v51.0 on Jan 23, 2017

When they first started releasing 64-bit builds of Firefox, I jumped on the band wagon. It ran so much better on my 64-bit OS. I remember testing it against the 32-bit version with Peacekeeper and Speed Battle. Way back, I was amazed when my old clunker scored 600-800 on Speed Battle. Today, Firefox 51 scores in the low-to-mid 1300s. So, for all the haters and complainers that say performance sucks on Firefox, it's nonsense. The benchmark numbers speak for themselves. You guys must have such a munged up system that you're your own worst enemies.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v50.0 on Nov 15, 2016

Why waste time with 32-bit anymore? 64-bit screams. The past couple versions bumped up performance on my old clunker and FF50 is no exception. 51 will be built against an updated VS2015U3. Testing the 51 beta shows even more of a performance boost on the same hardware. Go Mozilla.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v50.0 on Nov 15, 2016

As of FF50, it behaves like a modern browser should, it launches fast and it Finally uses lower memory. Keep in mind these are the ONLY TWO THINGS people give ANY crap about, which is why Chrome won. Its an incredible shame that FF spend the last 10 versions trying to shove in crap we didnt want, give us an interface we didnt ask for and generally ignored its users. They are finally getting it right, but its waaayyyy too late now to ein back its users.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v49.0.2 on Oct 25, 2016

FF was my default browser for a number of years. Then it stopped working. After countless updates, installations and stuttering, frozen screens, FF 49,02 came along, I installed it, there was some kind of reset and everything worked fine. Hope it stays that way.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v49.0.2 on Oct 21, 2016

Firefox is my main browser but recently i had a problem with it - some pages i had open froze. i switched over to Opera, a chrome base browser and had the same problem! but this time it was reported as web page crash. Reason for these problems - Windows XP only uses a max 2GB memory. wtf. a browser needs 2GB?? lol. Firefox is now the only browser that is updated for Windows XP, all the others don't support XP anymore. My solution other than upgrading to Windows 7 is to have another browser open in addition to Firefox. I am thinking the older original Opera 12.18 browser. its not a memory hog like the other browsers. Hopefully i don't run out of memory again..

Assirius

Assirius reviewed v49.0.1 on Sep 24, 2016

Got a problem in recently bookmarked links, just disable in about:config setting it to false

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v48.0.2 on Aug 29, 2016

If you get off on staring a frozen screen, then this is the browser for you.
My rating: 0

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v48.0.2 on Aug 25, 2016

The most customizable browser, PERIOD.
Great Browser!

Most of all it IS NOT Chrome spyware that won't even include a bookmarks sidebar that users have been screaming for the last 4 years

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v48.0 on Aug 4, 2016

Switched to Cyberfox.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v48.0 on Aug 3, 2016

A marked improvement over 47. I am more excited about 49 which, in my benchmarks, shows a performance improvement of over 30% using Speed Battle. They're switching to VS2015u3 for the compiler so even more performance should be realized. Factor in forthcoming Servo Engine inclusions and WebRender2 and we'll see some needed performance boosts. Still my browser of choice.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v47.0.1 on Jun 29, 2016

It's alright, although recently they've added a bunch of bourgeois junk like "Hello", "Pocket", Primetime Content Decryption Module provided by Adobe, Incorporated, and of course a plugin for Windows "Photo Gallery.
Fortunately these things can be disabled without impairing essential functionality.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v47.0.1 on Jun 28, 2016

Still works well for me. Faster with each release. Electrolysis should speed things up considerably. Future engine update is going to scream too. Chrome who? Yeah, forget that spyware trash. No issues with Add-ons. I have 32-bit alongside 64-bit for those 32-bit plugins which have not caught up.

Picasso

Picasso reviewed v47.0 on Jun 8, 2016

Chrome is faster but Firefox is overall the better browser.

smuttinata

smuttinata reviewed v46.0.1 on May 5, 2016

Try 46.0.1 and it was so slow and draggy. Slow everything down on my PC with 16-GB ram. Had to go back to 42.0.0 - the best one for me.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v46.0.1 on May 4, 2016

Best thing is that it's not Chrome spyware. The most customizable browser, period.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v46.0.1 on May 4, 2016

Don't know what everyone else is doing wrong, but FF works fine for me overall. However, I prefer to use Mozilla's FF Extended Service Release browser instead, it offers more stability over regular releases to the public.
More info on FF ESR.....
https://www.mozilla.org/...S/firefox/organizations/

Download...
https://www.mozilla.org/...refox/organizations/all/

So far FF ESR 45.1.1 is working great.
4 1/2 stars (with Classic Theme Restorer addon)

wyldmn

wyldmn reviewed v46.0.1 on May 4, 2016

Still a good Browser.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v46.0.1 on May 3, 2016

The ONLY 2 things people care about, speed and low memory usage, and Mozilla Continually refuses to do anything about firefox being a slow memory hog, while every other browser especially Chrome have done amazing jobs in those area. **** you firefox, you deserve your sad death.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v46.0.1 on May 3, 2016

This project is pretty much dead thanks to massive mismanagement at Mozilla. Lets all just say one last goodbye and move on to something else.

roymccoy

roymccoy reviewed v46.0 on Apr 26, 2016

Firefox 46.0 is the first version that works properly for me since beta version 43.0b2.
Every release in between have had problems on certain sites where various links and thumbnails/ previews would not show correctly, or made Firefox freeze or crash all together.

So far no problems, it's no slower then before, and all my plugins are compatible as well..

pacman2004

pacman2004 reviewed v45.0 on Mar 8, 2016

Vers 45 just released craches a minute after it is loaded

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v44.0.2 on Feb 19, 2016

Just tested v44, and it's a disaster

1 tab open, firefox consumes 464mb of memory
same page in srware iron (crome), 175mb of memory

Besides the memory hog, it has problems to load and work properly with a ton of websites (ie, imagevenue) this problem is more pronounced with every new version

Firefox is not an option anymore

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v44.0.1 on Feb 9, 2016

I'd give FF a -1 rating if I could. I'd been using FF as my default browser for years until FF 43.0 came along. I installed 43 on my four computers expecting FF performance that I've been used to. All I got from the new FF versions was stuttering performance that ended up with FF freezing on all computers. I went back an installed pre-43.0 versions and their performance was just as bad.

So, I uninstalled FF and went back to Google Chrome and SlimJet. Both are working fine. I just installed 41.0.1 and got the same crappy performance and freezing. After so many years with FF, I'm at a loss to understand what happened. Has anyone else out there had the same problem?

krgood

krgood reviewed v43.0.3 on Jan 6, 2016

In relation to past releases, 43.0.3 seems to have a lag when mouse clicking on any item. The scrolling seems to stall for 2-3 seconds. When changing URL's,
I will frequently get "not responding" messages and if I wait for FF to respond, it will be as long as 2 minutes. I loaded the latest version of Chrome, went to the same URL's and tested scrolling action and had no delays or hangs. Wonder what has happened in this latest release of FF??

smuttinata

smuttinata reviewed v43.0.3 on Jan 6, 2016

Mozilla Firefox for Windows (32-bit) 43.0.3 is so draggy and hogs memory so much in so little time; I have to go back to 42.0.0.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v42.0 on Nov 3, 2015

For many, their countless 32-bit plugins won't be recognized save for Flash which has a native 64-bit version. Emphasis on the word native. For many, many years, Firefox has only been 32-bit so developers only made 32-bit NPAPI plugins. NPAPI is old tech and more secure plugin architecture exists. So, plugin devs may just take some time to play catch up and make 64-bit NPAPI plugins.

As for performance, I'm seeing a 12.857% increase when testing using speed-battle.com tests. Not having plugin support for everything doesn't affect me since I have both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions installed so if something requires a plugin, I just use 32-bit. Works for me.

smuttinata

smuttinata reviewed v41.0.1 on Oct 9, 2015

version 41.0.1 is so draggy, I have to go back to version 40.0.3.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v41.0.1 on Oct 9, 2015

Monkey, ur the troll. Just because only a few geeks like yourself use firefox anymore and can't take a negative review you post bs likes yours. Stop wasting your time troll and get a life.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v41.0 on Sep 24, 2015

Sven123456789 is a troll.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v41.0 on Sep 22, 2015

Use this browser daily, have had no crashes thus far, Flash works on all sites visited, extensions and plugins work with no problems. Render pages well, am satisfied!

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v41.0 on Sep 22, 2015

Not good

ComputerLuvr

ComputerLuvr reviewed v40.0.3 on Sep 4, 2015

Many of my clients use this browser on a daily basis.
It is EXCELLENT.
As an IT professional I highly recommend it.
I also use it on a daily basis and do not find it consumes a lot of memory at all.

Herzel

Herzel reviewed v40.0.3 on Sep 4, 2015

EXCELLENT browser.
Been using this for years without having any issues.

inkowyouknow

inkowyouknow reviewed v40.0.3 on Aug 28, 2015

Constant updates..Script crashes...Wondering when it will all end and when it does will it result in a usable browser or not

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v40.0.2 on Aug 26, 2015

Just tried v40 and it's seriously buggy, render problems, instability, memory hog, you know firefox.

plasticpig72

plasticpig72 reviewed v40.0.2 on Aug 17, 2015

With regret I have to score this so low, despite having used it for years. The memory issue are just ridiculous and try as I might, I cannot resolve them.

Keverin

Keverin reviewed v40.0.2 on Aug 17, 2015

For watching a 1 hour Youtube video using html5, it consumes about 1 GIGAbyte of memory...... For christ sake, is that what the call "optimizing" at Mozilla ?

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v40.0.1 on Aug 16, 2015

I've been using Cyberfox since Opera has moved to being a chrome clone and been reasonably pleased. Lately it seems each new release is becoming more and more resource hungry. Version 40 doubles the memory consumption when watching Youtube videos and it is noticeable. Videos stutter and the browser becomes very sluggish

ShahinD

ShahinD reviewed v40.0 on Aug 11, 2015

It seems they release new version every hours

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v40.0 on Aug 11, 2015

I've finally switched to the 64-bit version of Firefox which was supposed to go green with v40 but has been pushed to v41. So far, 40 has been running very well and responsiveness of 64-bit is way faster than 32-bit. I can't go back now. No crashes so far and my extensions are running just fine. v41 is going to get a decrease in memory usage and v42 is going to benefit from the updated performance of SQLite 3.8.11.1. Win win. And for all the people running out of memory: You are running a 64-bit OS right? It is 2015.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v40.0 on Aug 11, 2015

I switched to Cyberfox 64 bit way better

-Lord-

-Lord- reviewed v38.0.6 on Jun 9, 2015

Has turned into an enormous memory hole. After 15-30 minutes of this app being open, consumes nearly a gig and a half of memory and becomes choppy and intermittently unresponsive.

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v38.0.6 on Jun 9, 2015

After switching to Google Chrome back in 2009 I haven't looked back once. Google Chrome offers stable, secure, frequent, features, ease-of-use, updates, to the browser itself.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v38.0.5 on Jun 5, 2015

Not good

TC17

TC17 reviewed v38.0.1 on May 17, 2015

I have been a devoted Firefox supporter over the years, but it has gotten so bad lately that I can't even stand to use it anymore. I don't know what their problem is, but its so laggy with every update the past year. I have a high end desktop computer.

Today I installed Chrome which I haven't installed in years. Its so much smoother and actually has nicer addons. Plus it has built in PDF printing which is a huge plus, as all the addons for Firefox never seem to print the pdf out correctly.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v37.0.2 on May 4, 2015

v36 and 37 are very unstable, rendering is getting worst with every new version, also memory and cpu usage are very high in comparison with previous versions.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v37.0 on Mar 31, 2015

Performance seems to have slipped a tiny bit. I think this is partly due to the EME work not being fully baked and some other GFX related work as well. We'll get an even faster SQLite in 38 so hoping they fix the performance drop in that version. Working well for me on older hardware.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v36.0.3 on Mar 22, 2015

36.0.4 is out (0.four)
Security fixes for issues disclosed at HP Zero Day Initiative's Pwn2Own contest (like 36.0.3 but improved, I hope)
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Still my default browser, will be I guess as long as I will be able to remove/disable all new extra gadgets.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v36.0.3 on Mar 21, 2015

36.0.3 is out. don't know what happened to 36.0.2

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v36.0.1 on Mar 6, 2015

hopefully this release won't have the problem i've been encountering whereby FF does not close..it still stays in memory as shown in task manager and then reports its crashed and has to close after about 30 seconds.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v36.0 on Feb 24, 2015

Holy crap when did Windows 36 come out? fantastic!

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v36.0 on Feb 24, 2015

I know I've said it a million times but the work that went into many of the previous versions of FF was great. This one has *tons* more performance fixes, updated SQLite that does 20% more work using the same CPU cycles, full HTTP/2 support, fixes to reduce memory use. I admit some of the issues from 35 and before were bugging some but I feel this version has squashed most if not all of the issue. The only complainers are those still using XP. Guys, seriously, it's time to get off of XP.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v35.0.1 on Jan 26, 2015

i get quite frequent hangs using 35.0 and have to close FF using task manager. but i think this may be a Java problem too. anyway i've upgraded to this new 35.0.1 and hopefully this problem is gone forever. wishful thinking maybe.

plasticpig72

plasticpig72 reviewed v35.0.1 on Jan 26, 2015

I have to agree with others here. The pages hang so frequently that it has become completely unusable. I have tried everything to resolve the issue, but the issues exist on all 3 computers I use.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v35.0.1 on Jan 26, 2015

Working fine for me. Fixed a few bugs: https://www.mozilla.org/...fox/35.0.1/releasenotes/

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v35.0 on Jan 13, 2015

The slide continues.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v35.0 on Jan 13, 2015

Keeps getting worse and worse with each release, people are barely paying attention to this project anymore. I wish they would focus on performance instead of trying to make it look like chrome, and adding all these pointless social media features that people can get with addons. The browser is getting slower and more bloated all the time, security issues are now obtrusive instead of transparent to the user, and simple things like typing in a chat box on sites like facebook and youtube stall the browser so bad that it almost has to be killed and restarted. Everything about the browser is headed in the wrong direction now, so sad.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v34.0.5 on Dec 3, 2014

The latest Firefox will not render pages properly and I have to update my security system manually.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v34.0.5 on Dec 1, 2014

Had to fiddle with the default search engine stuff to put Google back from Yahoo taking over. Other than that, works for me.

john446

john446 reviewed v33.1.1 on Nov 17, 2014

its too good http://swcky.com/

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v33.1 on Nov 10, 2014

Happy 10th Birthday Firefox!
Still looking good!!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v33.0.2 on Oct 29, 2014

So far so good!

landfish

landfish reviewed v33.0.2 on Oct 28, 2014

gets 5 stars from me

@ bruno1972 ..... fake, it's 2014

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v33.0.2 on Oct 28, 2014

I've used both, and this browser doesn't resemble Chrome in the slightest, except maybe the rounded tabs.

Don't know how anyone can call it a clone of Google Chrome.

bruno1972

bruno1972 reviewed v33.0 on Oct 14, 2014

fake. windows 33 is a myth - use windows 7 or 8

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v33.0 on Oct 14, 2014

No complaints here.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v33.0 on Oct 14, 2014

Not good

Orhin

Orhin reviewed v32.0.3 on Oct 4, 2014

Another month, another loss of market Share! People, get rid of that Google bought peace of garbage Mozillaware which are these days followers of lobbies like the ads and the DRM industry!

Seamonkey is the true open source way to go, not a carricature like "Googlezilla Firechrome" !

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v32.0.3 on Sep 24, 2014

Just a security update to fix a vuln. It would take Microsoft a month to fix a vuln in IE so Mozilla's got your back as usual. Didn't break my Adblock Plus or FlashGot.

Orhin

Orhin reviewed v32.0.2 on Sep 22, 2014

Firefox Australis is a Chrome clone disaster which is equal as worse as the new Opera chrome Clone!

One recommendation .. Uninstall it!

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v32.0.2 on Sep 18, 2014

Wow I was told this was the best and fast, I am finding that not to be true at all and it is certainly not fast, stalls, freezes up among other things. I use windows 8.1 and this browser is not what I thought it was, it is literally a piece of junk, what was good is now not....I can not give it a 0 so a 1 star will have to do, they have a lot of work to do on this, a whole lot before I will use it again.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v32.0.2 on Sep 18, 2014

Not good

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v32.0.1 on Sep 16, 2014

Came back to FF, FF 31 ESR actually. Classic Theme Restorer gets me back to that classic look and feel. I really like v31 ESR. Much snappier than Pale Moon. Pale Moon developer is going down a different fork rather than going to FF 31 ESR base(from FF 24 ESR) and I highly doubt it will turn out well.

Orhin

Orhin reviewed v32.0.1 on Sep 14, 2014

Australis was and always will be a stupid imitation of Google Chrome! The new Firefox discards customizability for a Chrome like simplicity - Just horrible! Getting back customization with add-ons is just lame.

F*ck Mozilla for ruining something great! As long as Mozilla is happily driving the Chrome train, the only real alternative is Seamonkey. This browser shows that customization is no thing of the past and that devs still care for more advanced users.

This, Mozilla Firefox developers will never understand, because there new role model is now Chrome.

Why Mozilla can not be happy with the status as Geek's browser?

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v32.0.1 on Sep 12, 2014

Firefox is the only major browser that hasn't gone 64-bit. It's about bleeping time!

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v32.0 on Sep 4, 2014

The "new face" of FF is OK, but the browser itself has gone downhill. I downloaded FF 32 and it was erratic and often crashed. So I went back to PaleMoon and problems were solved, including having the "old" interface. What a shame to ruin a good thing.

bruno1972

bruno1972 reviewed v31.0 on Aug 6, 2014

fake, windows 31 doesnt exist. use windows 7 or 8 instead

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v31.0 on Jul 30, 2014

the dialogue boxes for options and addons are way too big for screen, cant resize them, makes this version useless, v26 displays boxes okay, so its just sloppy coding. mozilla too busy trying to copy chrome, they need to scrap thia australis crapware.

yoetama

yoetama reviewed v31.0 on Jul 24, 2014

feels less agile, only a few comparisons with other browser plugins are also the same.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v31.0 on Jul 23, 2014

and so it begins, sponsored/ad space tiles. This version has tile space for sale hard coded into it. It also has, like Chrome and all it's clones, a big Google search bar on the the new tabs page.

I'm taking back that star I bumped the previous Australis version

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v30.0 on Jun 19, 2014

Well I've finally been able to get some scripts(stylish) that have restored most of the functionality I had before which aided in workflow. I've had to remove a few plugins though as they are now useless thanks to Australis.

All and all I see no improvement and certainly don't consider taking styling ques from chrome as one either.

I now won't be as harsh as my previous ratings but to use this as is would be quite a let down.

Hergest

Hergest reviewed v30.0 on Jun 10, 2014

Firefox *was* the best browser, but since v.29 it is rubbish. Like many, I downgraded, which I consider an upgrade.
I've now installed the Firefox ESR, to get security fixes for a while without picking up the new rubbish UI.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v30.0 on Jun 10, 2014

Seems a little snappier in rendering pages but that's about it. Seems to have lost some performance compared to version 29.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v30.0 on Jun 10, 2014

Not good

traumadoc

traumadoc reviewed v29.0.1 on May 11, 2014

In my opinion, version 23.0.1 is the most appealing. I have tried each major release that has come in the time since. 23.0.1 has the best interface and usability. Every version after that screwed around with putting this icon here or there, changing ease of access to downloaded items, clearing bars, moving bars, etc.

Mozilla needs to get a grip and understand not to move things from where people expect them to be. Functionality is one thing, but making people search for something that "was always right there" is moronic.

They figure, "hey, it's free." Well that's the wrong attitude.

Go back to Firefox 23.0.1 folks.

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v29.0.1 on May 10, 2014

They ruined it, I uninstalled it, will never go back to Firefox....

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v29.0.1 on May 10, 2014

Excellent browser, with forward looking, easy to use changes. Personally, the new design suits me just fine. Some of my extensions were not working in previous FF releases. They've finally come to life. Well done!

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v29.0.1 on May 10, 2014

OK, first of all I'll have to remove my foot from my mouth. I said I would never use Australis. I tried Chrome and just couldn't live with it. After giving this new Firefox try, I actually LIKE the Australis interface.

Firefox is still TEN TIMES more customizable than chrome, and with the right add-ons to help, I think it's a keeper. I have been using Pale Moon for more than a year, and this actually seems faster and more responsive than the latest version of PM. The new SYNC works great!! I can open Firefox while at work, and like magic....all of my bookmarks, add-ons and prefs are the same as on my home computer. I fought using the Australis interface as much as anyone, but give it a try. Mozilla hasn't taken away your customization, you still have about:config and with 3rd party extensions, customize it about any way you like

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v29.0.1 on May 9, 2014

The worst "upgrade" in the entire Firefox history.

Firefox has lost its appeal, for now I'm _upgrading_ to Firefox 24.5 ESR, and when the next ESR release comes out, I will upgrade to Seamonkey.

There's no way I'm downgrading from Firefox 28 to Crapfox 29.

Autstralis could have been made an option, a new skin, with an option to use the classic Firefox UI with all its customization. Instead Mozilla stripped us of our choice and customizability. Let their UI "designers" burn in hell.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v29.0.1 on May 9, 2014

Not good

halc

halc reviewed v29.0 on May 3, 2014

FF 29.0 still the best, but the new UI in it's default state is not for power users: takes too much space, offers too little configurability, breaks workflow and needs 3rd party add-ons.

Thankfully Classic Them Restorer (from Mozilla add-ons page) helps a lot.

Now wait for all the add-on makers to update their code...

Other than that, for heavy lifting, customizability and overall use, FF is still the main browser, although Chrome is also very capable.

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v29.0 on May 2, 2014

Very unhappy with it, to me they ruined it, nothing but junk now, not easy to use, many of the extensions were gone, junk, sorry but I uninstalled it and will not go back. They ruined it with this Australis junk....

ali4ek

ali4ek reviewed v29.0 on May 1, 2014

I simply love the new Australis interface, please keep it.

One minor comment is I'd like to be able to move ALL buttons, including back/forward and reload.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v29.0 on Apr 30, 2014

from 11 addons I only have issues with one that promise an update in order to work with v29+. I really like the new interface but it's not true that it uses less memory, its the opposite, its using around 20MB more than esr 24.5. I didn't notice big difference in terms of speed and rendering between v24.5 and v29.
@Artem S. Tashkinov
According to FF the new esr will be v31
I think that the worst versions were between v25 and v28. v29 seems pretty stable

BooM13

BooM13 reviewed v29.0 on Apr 30, 2014

With the new update and mine interface Firefox was the best of all browsers

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v29.0 on Apr 30, 2014

Firefox 24.5 ESR to the rescue!

Too bad, the next ESR release will be based on Firefox 32 with this God awful UI.

chaswill

chaswill reviewed v29.0 on Apr 30, 2014

Yep, I let it upgrade this morning and went running straight for V24ESR. Back to normal. What are those FF people smoking?

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v29.0 on Apr 29, 2014

The claim is that the new interface simplifies things and well, it is simply awful.

First off, the unmovable menu/apps button is on the right side of the toolbar. Reading right to left is unnatural in most languages.

Speaking of the menu, it's more designed for finger painting than anything else. Drag around large icons and you have your menu. BUT the useless bookmarks menu only goes one layer deep meaning no cascading, it just opens the manger to get into sub-folders. Such a complete waste of time.

Honestly, I could go on and on as to how this lack of customization impedes work flow and browsing habits but what's the point? Chrome is infesting every part of the web and that's all there is to it.

Fortunately there is a plugin that can restore alot of the old functionality but it seems like a waste of time to be releasing updates that people want to revert rather than improving the core of the browser.

Palemoon, here I come

geomelen

geomelen reviewed v29.0 on Apr 29, 2014

Well I just got the new FF Australis interface page and, to tell you the truth, it really doesn't look that bad. Actually it might take a little time to get accustomed to but it seems okay. The whole problem is that we are accustomed to do things a certain way and when change and new technologies arrive we resent the fact that we might have to "start all over again" and that's understandable. As part of our learning habits that is not unusual at all. Changes and innovation are usually difficult for us to accept and "learned habits" is just part of our psychological traits on how we think and act so, if you really think about it, after awhile, getting accustomed to the new FF is really no big deal. Sure we've lost a few things that we liked on our homepage, but can you imagine if we still had the "original FireFox" and all that "old technology"??? Let me put it this way, I can remember the first car I had a 1963 Chevy Impala and no AC. Do you think that I would change my 2012 Lexus GS 350 for the "old, trustworthy and beauty" of the Impala??? Yeah, it's a nostalgic felling I guess and I loved that Impala but you get the idea. I got over it and I'm sure that you will too. Technology and innovation has it's sacrifices but the positives out weight the lost.... so I welcome you Australis and thanks FireFox for a job well done.......

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v29.0 on Apr 29, 2014

Wow. This is beyond bad. Tried for a half hour to even somewhat figure out the new horrible interface and set up. Jump the shark is officially add FF to its list. Really sad to see how bad this has become with the last few versions. But this is way past bad.

landfish

landfish reviewed v29.0 on Apr 28, 2014

horrible,

The "Classic Theme Restorer" add-on helps

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v28.0 on Mar 22, 2014

I'm using firefox 28 right now, and I've to say that is the first time that I want to move to another browser. This version is highly unstable, 2 crashes in less than an hour with only a few tabs open. Right now I only have this tab (fileforum.betanews) and it's consuming 405.624KB, this is a big issue, I'm thinking to downgrade to v24 or use another browser like palemoon or qupzilla until this is not fixed.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v27.0 on Feb 7, 2014

fast and stable, now stop changing the ui.
10 stars to to the extension and stylish makers that make it possible for me to modify ff so i can fix all the ui problems that moozilla thinks we need.
still the best browser by far.

landfish

landfish reviewed v27.0 on Feb 4, 2014

Being one of the first to complain about the missing "browser.download.useToolkitUI" it's only fair I'm one of the first to thank the powers that be for putting it back

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v27.0 on Feb 4, 2014

If you liked version 24, you can get an Extended Support Release here...
http://www.mozilla.org/e...refox/organizations/all/

I for one don't care to be Mozilla's beta tester with Final versions in between Extended Support Release versions. Firefox 24ESR is currently at v24.3 with today's update.

4 stars(for v24ESR) when compared to Opera, Chrome or Internet Explorer 9. Would be 5 stars if not for all the tinkering(unneeded bells and whistles), ridding of options that used to be and lousy interface(IMO) for Windows Vista on up.

roj

roj reviewed v26.0 on Dec 23, 2013

I am sick of the azzclowns who develope this browser making continual changes to the API and interfaces so that add-ons break with new versions. Get your heads out from between your buttocks and stabilize the architecture permanently. At this point in time you're no longer teenagers spinning code in mommy's basement; develope the application accordingly.

To the devs:

I'm a long-time Firefox user and I'm tired of your BS - have a clue or get one installed.

ONE star.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v26.0 on Dec 12, 2013

@landfish : the imbecile is a Mozilla narrow-minded idiot.
Firefox has decided to become an upstart crow, they want to look fancy and have abandoned their heritage as well as the users of always in order to look nice in the galleries of new-comers.
Just choose Pale Moon browser, like I did, like more and more users do. It is faithful to the spirit, the flexibility and the users of what remains the only Firefox we like.

landfish

landfish reviewed v26.0 on Dec 10, 2013

It appears in v26 that we can't have the simple download window anymore in Firefox, the about:config "browser.download.useToolkitUI to true" trick doesn't work now. You can click on the useless download icon to make a window open, that has other rubbish on it that isn't needed. That's ok except for the fact you have to do this every time, it wont just open automatically.
Who is the imbecile who goes "Now I just had a good idea, why don't we ......."

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v25.0 on Oct 29, 2013

Got tired of the 'Oops, well that was embarrassing' crash notifications from Firefox 24. Went back to Firefox 17.0.8 ESR for now and all is well and fast. Maybe Mozilla will have all the bugs worked out in a few more Firefox 24 extended service release versions.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v25.0 on Oct 29, 2013

It's been a while since I reviewed but with 25 being released, I had to post up my experiences. It has improved leaps and bounce since 20-23 were released. Memory usage is way down (and with version 26, memory usage will drop through the floor on image heavy pages (https://blog.mozilla.org...les/2013/10/Images2.png) and in general) and speed/rendering is near instant. This should hopefully now cause less crashes due to memory pressure on 32-bit systems. They really hit a home run with this version. I look forward to the next version even more.

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v24.0 on Sep 23, 2013

Thank you TC17 disabling lastpass fixed the problem. I was wrong it wasn't Mozilla's fault. Google Chrome is still slightly faster that's why I'm only giving version 24 a 4/5.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v24.0 on Sep 20, 2013

Still the best browser, though Firefox is slowly ruining a good thing... The taking away of some options(i.e: Javascript), and the 'new & improved' this and that, such as the new download window function that I had to go into about:config to set back to the way it was before. Not really all that much speed improvement since v17ESR, but it is slightly noticeable nonetheless. From here I think all Mozilla will be able to do is cosmetic, probably to a point of eventually ruining Firefox. I think it's all downhill from here with all their constant need for tinkering.

Gone from 5 to 4 stars for the above mentioned.

UPDATE: Sometimes when I open Firefox 24 it says it had crashed prior and offered to open up the prior sites I had open. Thing is, it hadn't crashed. Now looking forward to Firefox 24.0.1.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v24.0 on Sep 17, 2013

Still the best browser. Your crazy if you actually think Chrome is better. Even the addons are better for Firefox.

To the person below mentioning the delay startup. I'd be willing to bet you are using Lastpass? I have that problem too, but its the authors of Lastpass that are at fault for that, not Firefox.

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v23.0 on Aug 14, 2013

I've been a loyal Firefox user since the beginning, but version 23 was too much for me to accept . Every time I open version 23 the program becomes unresponsive for at least 30 seconds. The only time I've had a similar problem was with the download manager after try to save a file. The program would become unresponsive for 10 seconds and then starts up again. Maybe there's a option in about:config to minimize the unresponsiveness, but I've lost patience. Firefox still has some positives, great extensions and lots of configurability, but I need better. For the last few weeks I've been using Chromium/Chrome and have been mostly happy. Chromium is faster, but lacks Google Chrome's Print Preview and Automatic Updater. My only complaints are a minimalist layout, annoying sign-in requests and difficulty switching search engines. I hope this will give Mozilla a wake up call.

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v23.0 on Aug 7, 2013

Looking more and more like Google Chrome with every build. Google's paychecks to the Mozilla staff are taking effect.

Output Overboard

Output Overboard reviewed v23.0 on Aug 7, 2013

I've used Firefox for years but Chrome is leaving it far, far behind.
Still, I don't like the pushiness of Google sticking Chrome everywhere you look.
Firefox seems to take up the niche title formerly owned by Opera.
A fine browser is one that does what YOU want.
Firefox is still good.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v23.0 on Aug 6, 2013

For me, this is the version that proves to me that ff has jumped the shark. Every new version does something to annoy me. First you had the tab bar now located on top. Than the download window disappear (I don't want the download button on toolbar). Now with this version, you can't remove the tab feature at all like older versions. Not to mention all the updates mess with my add on's.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v22.0 on Jun 28, 2013

A marked improvement in speed over 21 and earlier versions. 23 has even more speed improvements going into it as well. Hope they can figure out the blurred font thing for those who are experiencing it. Not affecting me though.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v22.0 on Jun 25, 2013

.....

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v22.0 on Jun 25, 2013

Firefox needs to go 64-bit

Jack5

Jack5 reviewed v20.0.1 on Apr 23, 2013

Downloading a pdf file after opening it in Firefox gives error, otherwise Firefox is good

methuselah

methuselah reviewed v20.0 on Apr 2, 2013

ver. 20 working much faster on Win7. Haven't tried that version on Linux and Mac yet today...

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v20.0 on Apr 2, 2013

Noticed some changes this time around, feature wise. Also, the couple sites that used to lock up, no longer do that. So it looks like those problems have been resolved.

bruno.

bruno. reviewed v19.0.1 on Mar 1, 2013

they better concentrate on windows 7 first, most users dont have windows 19.0.1 yet....lets hope it doesnt crash all of the time

xsnred

xsnred reviewed v19.0.1 on Feb 28, 2013

Waterfox is the ONLY way to go.

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v19.0 on Feb 20, 2013

I've switched to Pale Moon x64 and never looked back!
http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-x64.shtml

-Lord-

-Lord- reviewed v19.0 on Feb 20, 2013

I agree with grum.. where's the effing 64 bit version???
waterfox for me too

grum36

grum36 reviewed v19.0 on Feb 20, 2013

Instead of upgrade the version number like this Software of s*** (gogole chrome ) it 'll be nice to have a great x64 browser, I use waterfox

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v19.0 on Feb 19, 2013

Very clean update. It broke none of my current add ons.

stevvie

stevvie reviewed v21.0 Alpha 1 on Feb 15, 2013

Just fix all the broken stuff the updates keep breaking, rather than wasting time making something look better.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v18.0.2 on Feb 5, 2013

No useful changers and annoying their shrinking user-base & me with piddling changes -

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v18.0.2 on Feb 5, 2013

A Facebook update. Yay.
Whatever Mozilla. Version 17 was not affected. The new v18 Javascript engine in relation to Facebook is the reason for this update(crashes). The only reason I haven't gone back to version 16 is because version 17 has plugin container security support for HTML5. Maybe by version 30 there will be a reason to update from version 17.0.1. Also, apparently there's been no fix for the v11.5 Adobe Flash crashes in Firefox either, so it's Flash v11.2 still for me. I may not update Flash again either.

-Lord-

-Lord- reviewed v18.0.1 on Jan 21, 2013

I prefer FF over IE.. of course. As of late, however, the rapid fire updates, no 64bit version, and the 18.0.1 update have really turned me off. In the latest update, I am now having printing crashes, and on one Win8 machine it totally drags the system down to nothing.

Sadly, Mozilla has gone the way of so many others who start out with something terrific and then either goes to bloatware, or total s***t

bruno.

bruno. reviewed v18.0.1 on Jan 20, 2013

Microsoft should slow down with Windows 18.0.1, many people are still on Windows 7 albeit Windows 8. Firefox is okay

SineWave

SineWave reviewed v18.0.1 on Jan 18, 2013

I'm almost forced to say, since I was a long time Firefox supporter, that for the first time ever I've gone back to v16.0.2 that worked well for me. I'm a scumbag for not even trying this 18.01 version probably, but v17 gave me some issues with memory consumption [memory leaks, obviously], and it made my other apps "hickup" in the background. I've noticed this 100% CPU overtaking by Firefox 17.01 more than a dozen times. I would like to know if the issue has been resolved in this new version? I will for the first time give it 3, though. I don't like where this is going... it feels fishy. I'm on the verge of trying out Chrome. After so many years. Sad. They should pull themselves together.

nilst2006

nilst2006 reviewed v18.0 on Jan 9, 2013

With version 17 i lost an important addon to me. It wasn't compatible. No, i will not upgrade to version 18. I am tired of that as soon as i find an addon that really works the way i wan't Firefox kills it.... :(

Therefore i rate FF 18 to 1.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v18.0 on Jan 8, 2013

Agree with Zootopia3001 100% - I am really thinking of moving away from Firefox after using it for many years & defending it robustly on here & elswhere due the issues mentioned by Zootopia3001 - If I'm moving on I'm sure others must be thinking the same way. There is always a future speed increase on the horizon, this time in version 20 while all the time Chrome continues to tighten it's grip.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v18.0 on Jan 8, 2013

@Monkey_Punch, You're missing the point. The constant breaking of add-ons with each new release eventually drives people away from Firefox. The developers of these add-ons don't have the resources that Mozilla has, hence the delays for an add-on fix. Add-ons are what made Firefox popular. If they are going to break every single month, then eventually people will look elsewhere for a browser...Hint hint... Chrome. Also, it IS a problem with Mozilla concerning the CONSTANT breaking of add-ons. Nothing should be THAT constant, including a new version number every month just to follow Chrome's lead. Apparently Mozilla is content with being a follower now.
At the moment, I'm holding off on Firefox 18. This really is a leap forward, but am concerned with coming issues with the new script engine. Given the constant breaking of add-ons, I feel I must rate this browser lower to a 4 for now.

UPDATE: I broke down and updated to v18. I'm not seeing the big improvement in speed. Firefox 18 was over-hyped, and I fell for it as well. Up to 26% increase in speed my butt. Barely 4 stars. Any more broken add-ons to come and it will be 3 stars.
Further update:..... When multitasking with other programs Firefox 18 is slow and cumbersome as compared to Firefox 17. VERY noticeable sluggishness in comparison. This is what happens when you rush products out just for the sake of getting an update out to compete with Chrome's constant version updating. 3 stars.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v18.0 on Jan 8, 2013

Update: I don't want to start a flame war here, however, I am tired of the constant whine about FF breaking add ons. What part of "Mozilla doesn't write the add ons" isn't in your native language? It is not Mozilla's fault the authors of the the extensions and themes do not update them. Criticize FF based on running it with no add ons if you want to, but don't criticize it based on using 25-30 add ons whose authors don't keep up with the changes.

I am usually on the same page as Music, but on the issue of add ons I have to disagree. The only add on I have regular issues with is the Theme "Aeon", but as I said earlier, the author catches up in a day or two of each release. In fact it was fixed today (Jan 9). That being said, to be honest, I don't use a lot of extensions, Ad Block Plus, NoScript, Tab Mix Plus, Fox Clocks, Calculator and a couple of others which the authors update regularly, so perhaps it doesn't impact me all that much. I wouldn't use Chrome on a bet for reasons I have stated in my reviews of that mess.

@ roj 17.01 was a security update. If you don't like installing the betas as they come out, wait for the final version.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v18.0 on Jan 8, 2013

It's pointless to continue to whine about the rapid version releases. Who cares. I care that the final product is fast, stable, and works with the sites I visit. As someone who actually beta tests Firefox and reads (and submits to) Bugzilla, I know what immense performance improvements went into 18. These improvements were the result of the Memshrink and Snappy projects over the course of a year. New tools are being built to make Firefox even faster and we'll see some of that in version 20. Did you Extension/Add-on break with a new version? Why not complain to the Extension / Add-on author and not Mozilla. The authors, not Mozilla, are supposed to use the latest SDK and even Mozilla makes the SDK work at least two version of Firefox AHEAD of time. Overall, 18 is a major speed boost over the previous versions and my add-ons and extensions work just fine.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v17.0.1 on Dec 8, 2012

Works very well here, unfortunately time moves on & the idiots of this world are being catered for more & more, you only have to look at Windows 8 to see that -

But for me Firefox is still the least intrusive browser there is I with a bit of tweaking runs as I want it.

roj

roj reviewed v17.0.1 on Dec 3, 2012

And now 17.01.

SOD OFF Mozilla.

ONE star for a BS development strategy run by fratbois.

tontito

tontito reviewed v17.0.1 on Dec 3, 2012

LOL, o wonder how you can even use internet with sutch knowledge...

"i think its so buggy because nobody has windows 17.0.1 yet, most consumers are still stuck with windows 7 or windows 8...."

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v17.0.1 on Dec 2, 2012

They still haven't fixed the cleartype bug :(
And a couple of days a ago Mozilla announced that they would stop developing the 64-bit version of Firefox: http://ars.to/UoR8Sn
I've given up on Firefox.
Now I use palemoon: http://www.palemoon.org/

Ryusennin

Ryusennin reviewed v17.0.1 on Dec 1, 2012

Hardware acceleration still broken since 17.0.

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v17.0.1 on Dec 1, 2012

I will wait for version 77.0 to come out, wont take long to get there :P
Its more like little kids developing this thing now.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v17.0.1 on Nov 30, 2012

Fixed the issue I had with the Tools menu in the previous release. Seems fast and stable so far

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v17.0 on Nov 23, 2012

I find this update completely unnecessary minus the security fixes. Good to know that the new Social API 'feature' is optional and was disabled in about:config by default.
The 'click-to-play' feature for plugins is a mixed bag that doesn't meet my expectations. Different sites behave differently with this feature, not standardized at all, so I disabled the click-to-play feature.
Still the best browser out there. Firefox 18 is the big release I'm waiting for. Tried Chrome again and still a disaster IMO. Been that way since Chrome 8. Too bad the folks at Mozilla think that they need to copy Chrome's constant version updating. Will seem real silly when they get to version 50 something, if not already silly now.

roj

roj reviewed v17.0 on Nov 22, 2012

Getting REALLY tired of the far too frequent and often pointless upgrades which break plugins like PlainOldFavorites and TabMixPlus. ZillaLand has gone back to the ridiculous motto of "development so fast it's almost out of control". Dev your code, test your code THOROUGHLY and come out with timely point releases on a quarterly schedule barring emergencies - REAL ones - with a new full release yearly. Version 17? Really??? If Chrome wasn't such a clusterDuck and actually HAD plugins I'd almost be inclined to give it a go and I won't use that PigInAWig known as IE. Stop harassing your users ZillaLand - you're a HUGE pain in the azz.

THREE stars for a BS dev strategy.

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v17.0 on Nov 21, 2012

I like Firefox but this version (17) enables Cleartype by default and that's HORRIBLE! !!

The only way I know to disable Cleartype in Firefox 17 is to disable hardware acceleration in the advanced settings.

If it wasn't for all this my rating would be 3/5

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v17.0 on Nov 21, 2012

Not sure what is going on here, it disabled several of my addons, which is to be expected until the authors of the add ons catch up to changes in the new releases, however when I try to open anything from the "tools" menu, nothing happens, zilch, zip, nada. No add ons, nothing. went back to 16.02 and everything works fine.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v17.0 on Nov 21, 2012

Certainly an improvement over 16.02, but I worry about the direction Firefox is heading.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v17.0 on Nov 20, 2012

@Bala7--That's close to being the stupidest question I've ever heard as Sen. John McCain would say... I would suggest you put your brain in gear before opening your mouth... Mozilla Firefox version 17.0 works great so far!!

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v17.0 on Nov 20, 2012

"for Windows 17"
where get I get Win17 ?

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v17.0 on Nov 20, 2012

No problems, still the best browser by a long way.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v16.0.2 on Nov 9, 2012

Still the best. Nothing has made me change from that view. Chrome, u kidding, a browser with no features. Guess thats for the young kids. IE hasn't been good in a decade. Tried to warm up to Opera, still don't like it. With tons of add on's and themes/personas including the must have of all- Adblock, I can't see ever using those other browsers. any problems I ever get evolve around adobe flash. So I don't blame Firefox for that. Flash has been crap since adobe took it over. As for speed, its not even an issue anymore. They all are the same speed. So it comes down to feature to me. And bar none, Its firefox. You want a Firefox and Thunderbird combo, Seamonkey also is very good. Same code as this..

some guy

some guy reviewed v16.0.2 on Nov 4, 2012

stopped using 16.02 FF due to high memory usage and not responding was using 2 gigs of ram during a Google image search and locked up, went back to Using Opera 12.02 seems faster and less ram and now has adblock plus plug-in

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v16.0.2 on Oct 29, 2012

Basically a security up date. It did, however fix the addons it broke in ver 16.0. Bruno is a troll, no point in responding to him.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v16.0.1 on Oct 14, 2012

This seems to be a step backward from some of the 16 betas. I think the move back to 15.01 should have been permanent.

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v16.0.1 on Oct 13, 2012

@bruno70

What a "review"!

Idiocy prevails!

tontito

tontito reviewed v16.0.1 on Oct 12, 2012

3 seconds here :P

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v16.0.1 on Oct 12, 2012

Actually took an extra day for Betanews to put it up. It was available yesterday. You'd think that Mozilla would have taken the extra step to contact the sites that make the browser available for download to put the fixed version up ASAP. Not everyone leaves auto-update checked in the Firefox options menu.

As a speed guide, I've found that the Betanews site itself is a good test for browser speed, especially when clicking the 'View All Reviews' link here. On this topic alone it takes 40 seconds for the whole Firefox review page to finally load on my system(XP, 3.2GHz CPU, 2GB RAM). Not good. Hopefully the new Javascript improvements in Firefox 18 will remedy that. ABC News comments page load is another load drag, if the comments are many. For this I am now giving Firefox only 4 stars.

UPDATE: I've now found that it was Ghostery that was causing the incredibly slow load times here at Betanews, as mentioned above. Only took 10 seconds to load with Ghostery disabled for Betanews. Now I'm pondering getting rid of Ghostery. Back to 5 stars for Firefox.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v16.0.1 on Oct 12, 2012

There was a security problem with 16.0 so they pulled it reverted to 15.01 fixed it then re-released it.

(there was a problem in the matter-anti-matter flow system that caused gravometric distortions in the space-time continuum - I ended up back in 2003 until they sorted it)

@Zootopia3001 - I have had issues with Ghostery causing issues though only on some sites this being one of them, the problem does not occur with DNT+ but that don't block as many trackers either? BTW This issue does not occur with Ghostery on Linux either -

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v16.0 on Oct 11, 2012

After an initial error with the download caused by a faulty cache entry on my system I have the V16.0 installed and i did not loose any of my favorite add-ons. I am not sure why I was not able to get this version at the homepage link above. that link sends me to a page with Version 15.0.1 as the latest and only version. Perhaps updating is regional and my region is not ready yet?

Check this out: Command Line in the Firefox 16 Developer Toolbar - YouTube

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v16.0 on Oct 9, 2012

FF screwed the pooch with this version. It broke too many of my add ons to be usable, I went back PM 15.2 until they get it sorted out.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v16.0 on Oct 9, 2012

Sad to say, but FF has jumped the shark. Latest version I can't get multiple sites to work. Including Youtube or Ustream. Always some issue with flash and other plug ins. Which doesn't seem to effect IE or chrome. So, saying goodbye to this browser.

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v16.0 on Oct 9, 2012

Seems the only real improvement is incremental garbage collection activation. However, I've had that turned on manually a couple of versions ago via about:config. Maybe there was an improvement to its garbage collection feature. Still the best browser out there though.
@Monkey_Punch: BTW, SPDY v3 was introduced in Firefox 15 from what I've read, another feature I already had manually activated in about:config before Mozilla decided to activate it in a prior version upon upgrade/install.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v16.0 on Oct 9, 2012

Fast and only getting faster. Rockin' the new SPDY v3 support too. Looking forward to 18 as it has MORE speed performance updates going into it. Killing Chrome in the numbers (speed-battle.com).

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v16.0 on Oct 9, 2012

Just updated, certainly snappier than 15.x, leaves Chrome in the weeds, that's for sure. It must be frustrating to create add-on's for Firefox as each release breaks them, my two favorite themes don't work & now I'm left with probably the worst looking browser in the entire world - FF default.

Edit: Whats the point in trying to give a decent evaluation when FileForum let people like Bruno continue to post, if that was done on a thread on BetaNews the person would be banned - Pointless -

Mirage_Etoile

Mirage_Etoile reviewed v15.0.1 on Oct 8, 2012

I noticed that it crashes but I discovered that the cause it's in the plugins .
Try to disable the useless ones then it should work perfectly .
Ever a great browser .

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v15.0.1 on Oct 3, 2012

Small security up date

@ PaulWilliams: If you are using something like Nightly Tester Tools to force add on compatibility, you are probably correct. I have had no crashing issues after a month of use.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v16.0 Beta 6 on Oct 3, 2012

Gets better with every release.

@ bruno70: After months of giving this very good browser bad ratings because you didn't like the syntax Beta News used, you finally give it a rating it deserves? Your arrogance and hubris are beyond comprehension.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v16.0 Beta 5 on Oct 1, 2012

This is the best Firefox browser I have used. Many small but annoying problems are fixed. Speed seems faster as well.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v16.0 Beta 5 on Sep 27, 2012

Since Firefox 14, the improvements have been noticeable, esp. in the areas of speed and page rendering. As usual, high marks for this browser!

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v16.0 Beta 5 on Sep 27, 2012

It's amazing the leaps and bounds in performance improvements made to Firefox since 13.0 was released. I've been following the betas and fixes going into 16 and they are amazing. The profiler work, SPDY v3.0, pipelining, leak fixes, etc is some of Mozilla's best work. Wish they would have had this work done a long time ago but better late than never. Now if only Adobe would fix their crashy plugin.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v16.0 Beta 5 on Sep 27, 2012

Seems faster & snappier than 15.01- Looking good -

@Bruno7- 15.01 is still the final - Your past stupid comments render any of your reviews totally invalid. (a name change perhaps?)

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v16.0 Beta 5 on Sep 26, 2012

First of this series of betas I've tried. Good stuff as usual.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v16.0 Beta 3 on Sep 15, 2012

Mozilla Firefox 16.0b3 performs great. Mozilla changed the UI format back so that it is decent. Thanks Mozilla UI developers. Please don't mess around with the UI anymore. That FF icon & the info. message in the top left hand corner of the screen was absolutely ridiculous, unnecessary & had to go...

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v15.0.1 on Sep 7, 2012

Not had any issues & used it for a few hours, a good browser.

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v15.0.1 on Sep 7, 2012

Firefox 15.0.1 keeps crashing on me. Noticeably faster than 14.0, but unstable. Maybe it's one of the extension I'm using.

KenH

KenH reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 31, 2012

Using v15.0 with 20 extensions and v15.0 seems to render faster than previous ones. I don't think it's my imagination. Great work Mozilla!

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v16.0 Alpha 1 on Aug 29, 2012

I have been using Firefox 16.0a1 (32bit) most of the day on WinVista SP2 & it is somewhat faster than 15.0 Final & runs very smoothly. Haven't had any glitches so far. I recommend users give it a trial run. Thanks Firefox Development Team--keep on keeping on.

UPieper

UPieper reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 28, 2012

Hey bruno, the number after your name reflects your IQ, right? ;-)

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 28, 2012

No problems, running well, gets better with each release!

Bruno is it possible to make such brainless comments & still access the Internet?

Zootopia3001

Zootopia3001 reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 28, 2012

With the release of version 13, I felt startup time lagged considerably, even more so with profiles. That's fixed with this version. Overall, snappier than the prior two releases.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 28, 2012

Seems like with each successive release, this browser gets more responsive and quicker. All my browser extensions work, no problems with page rendering (surprisingly, IE still has problems with a few sites, unreal!). My only issue is with the rapid number changes with the versions, guess developers want to catch up with Chrome, I guess :}

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 28, 2012

I am very impressed with FF 15. Pretty much stopped using Pale Moon except to check out new releases.

Benevolent Dictator

Benevolent Dictator reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 28, 2012

I have just created an account so I could put a comment here. Usually I would not do such a thing, but I'm still high a little bit so voilà. Anyway to all the people who comment on bruno70 comment: common buddies! it's not even worth replying, lets keep focusing on postive things! :)
Sins I'm beeing asked to type in my review, I would like to explain that my reasoning to award this Mozilla Firefox version and Mozilla Firefox in general for stars is that allthough I regard it very highly I still believe that there is some room for improvement and there allways be.
Sincerely yours.

Stevefarrell

Stevefarrell reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 27, 2012

Your a moron Bruno07. If you cant understand the naming then you really are stupid.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v15.0 Final on Aug 27, 2012

The best keeps getting better and better. Alas, stupid Flash plugin still seems to be a problem for some. Not Mozilla's fault though. Hope Adobe gets it together.

Some nice browsing speedups from SPDY v2 (v3 coming in Fx 16!), Pipelining (if you enable it), and from gobs and gobs of performance fixes from the Snappy project. Many big performance increases will be coming with Fx 17. Good job Mozilla guys!

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v15.0 Beta 6 on Aug 22, 2012

@Bala7, Bruno has been corrected ad nauseum and continues to post his crap about Beta News sending out nutty versions of Windows. He's a troll. As for my illiteracy? I wont comment, I hate flame wars, but you sir don't have a clue what my education level is. Got it?

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v15.0 Beta 6 on Aug 22, 2012

bruno70 is NOT a troll. The poster is merely literate. The use of proper English is something you degenerate high school dropouts will never understand.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v15.0 Beta 6 on Aug 22, 2012

@gatorfan95 do not feed the Trolls - I've been guilty of that lately, they probably can't comprehend anyway ;-) ~

(Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)

@Bala - Bruno70 is a Troll of the highest order and probably finds its amusing to write silly reviews - Your alter ego perhaps? I think he/she should be banned from posting.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v15.0 Beta 5 on Aug 16, 2012

Gatorfan95, I got a big chuckle out of your comment to Bruno70. Struck me as very funny for some reason.

Keep on keeping on Mozilla Firefox Development Team!! Kudos...

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v15.0 Beta 5 on Aug 16, 2012

@Bruno70 I had hoped Beta News had removed you to stop your trolling, but it appears not. I'd explain it to you again, but it would be a waste of breath. If you dont know what the hell you are talking about please dont give a good program a 1 star rating out of sheer ignorance

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v15.0 Beta 4 on Aug 11, 2012

@gatorfan95 - Agree, I've found the gap between Pale Moon & Firefox has closed significantly since version 14 to the extent I now use FF - FF keeps getting better & streets ahead of the auto-spy Chrome.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v15.0 Beta 4 on Aug 11, 2012

Maxthon with a chrome skin is perfect

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v15.0 Beta 4 on Aug 10, 2012

I've been using Pale Moon for quite some time now and I've been quite happy with it. I decided to give Firefox another try when it hit 15 beta 2 and I must say it looks like they've caught up with Pale Moon. Couple of little irritations customizing the Menu Bar, Navigation Bar etc, but hey it's beta right?

@ WAI. You work for Google or what? I suggest all of you Google apologists out there read this.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19200279

If you want Google spyware on your machines, be my guest. But don't tout that piece of spamware/spyware as the best browser around, it isn't close.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v15.0 Beta 4 on Aug 9, 2012

I have been using Firefox 15.0 since it entered beta 3 on WinVista SP2 Duo-Core Computer & it is performing remarkably well to be a mid-stream beta browser. Mozilla is improving the browser on an ongoing basis & I look forward to each new release & the improvements being made. Keep up the good work, Mozilla Firefox team!!

dailytopup

dailytopup reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 21, 2012

The well known browser company,Mozilla is all set to come up with its new version of firefox web browser known as Mozilla firefox 14.With better mouse performance and identity features, firefox 14 also include enhanced security.Also the provision for secure google search is also made by automatically switching on HTTPS. While using shared and public Wifi our data will feel protected.The google search suggestions and the searched results will be provided through a secure website but the users will not be to feel any difference in their search.HTTPS searches in the browser are only supported by the Google in their search engine but it is ensured by Mozilla that the provision will be available for other search engines too in the future.

SineWave

SineWave reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 20, 2012

OK, this is becoming to look good. I was using v3.6.28 until recently because all this versions and shi* told me something is wrong, nothing else. However, I must say that so far, this works really nice and faster than my beloved 3.6. I have not experienced as much crashes as I expected, too. Just one in about 20 days. Nice work.

Two digressions, though. IMHO

Toolbar icons that are just grey now look terrible in my system, since I use white letters on dark background like every other normal, ergonomically conscious person should. Yes, I know, people are not conscious in many ways, even though it's been proven a zillion times that we see the white letters on the dark background much easier than the black letters on the white background. The thing is - computer is not paper! And if we could make black paper, we could see those letters easier, too. Anyway, I liked the toolbar icons in v3.6 the best so far and I want them back. Don't be as stupid as Microsoft to introduce stupid GUI changes just for the sake of it. What looks good is good. Don't rectify what's good already.

Second. I wish they stopped changing the version numbers like that. It's completely stupid! For me, this is version 4 of Firefox. If you catch my drift... I also think this version confusion is not helping Mozilla in any way, on the contrary, it looks like the company is going down or something...

SineWave

SineWave reviewed v3.6.28 on Jul 20, 2012

Bruno70, you're and idiot. Second time. LOL

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v15.0 Beta 1 on Jul 18, 2012

@WAI - What do you have to do 'to keep up'?

I can only wonder what browser you use as Chrome has updates on BN on an almost daily basis.

(if you look in (hidden files) ‘Users/You/AppData/Local/Google' you will probably find lots of old Chrome versions that are still there)

You don't have to use the beta versions of FF just as you don't have to use the Chrome Devs-Alphas-Betas etc. but if you don't what are you doing on a Beta site?

I can only assume you are a Googleite & have not used FF recently as you give it one star, it's certainly worth more than that whoever you are?

'Browser War' - Who would be in that I wonder?

Firefox has improved immensely this last couple of months & it takes seconds for an update should you require it.

WAI

WAI reviewed v15.0 Beta 1 on Jul 18, 2012

@Music4Ever, i've had my share experiences with Firefox, Chrome, Maxthon, and sadly Opera yes i mention that browser to. yes i know this is the beta version but still Firefox isn't going anywhere with there fast releases. Chrome is where it's at and i do use Maxthon as well which won the Acid3 Browser test like 2times i think so far. Chrome is simplistic where as Firefox is and it not for some users out there. think of it as Chrome is Windows and Linux is Firefox. not many users use Linux. I like Chrome cause it saves everything to my Google Account. Now i've seen Firefox done something very very similar but i just prefer Chrome over anything else right now. I am no FAN of Google really so. though after using Firefox sometime today i will give it a better ranking. still though i would recommend Chrome over anything for now.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 17, 2012

havent heard from dumbo70 in awhile I had hoped Beta News had banned the troll. Rated 5 stars, as usual, just to counter his BS

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 17, 2012

Still a good browser but nowadays Chrome is a no-brainer.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 17, 2012

OMG when they get to version 20, 30, 40 they're going to have that many versions listed here? Anyway great browser and used daily. If they can't list the latest changes at least a link.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 17, 2012

Still the best browser

Renaak

Renaak reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 17, 2012

If you're that stupid you clearly shouldn't be using a computer online and most likely contributing to various botnets.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v14.0.1 on Jul 17, 2012

Best FF release yet.

FatBa - Why do you say that? You mean if you have 'no brain surely? Another one with an inbuilt 'Herd Instinct'

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v14.0 Beta 12 on Jul 11, 2012

Seems sorted now, faster than version 13.x - The final should be great.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v14.0 Beta 12 on Jul 11, 2012

Seems stable and quite fast at browsing, had no rendering problems, works well! Still my no.1 browser!

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v14.0 Beta 11 on Jul 6, 2012

I found 14b9 and 14b10 to be a bit shaky with rendering but to me 14b11 seems really solid and renders instantly. Noticeable improvement over the earlier betas and likely what Mozilla wanted 13 to be.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v14.0 Beta 10 on Jun 29, 2012

No problems apart from occasional slight stuttering loading some pages usually on first start page, then seems OK.

Firefox has made big changes since 13.x to the extent that I'm not able to notice much difference between FF & Pale Moon anymore.

Not sure how it can mess a system up to be blunt?

@robmanic44 - Why not just revert to version 13 you were happy with & leave the beta's alone?

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v14.0 Beta 10 on Jun 29, 2012

The best web browser in the world. Period.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v14.0 Beta 9 on Jun 29, 2012

This version has totally messed up my system. I have no choice but to leave Firefox for good and go with Chrome.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v14.0 Beta 9 on Jun 26, 2012

@SexyCow It's disingenuous at best to say Firefox is copy/pasting Chrome. Chrome would not even exist if were not for Firefox. Chrome very blatantly rips off Firefox code, reworks it, and then calls it their own product. What a joke. I tried Chrome once and it sucked. Spyware ridden garbage. Enjoy letting the Google marketing machine sell you off to the highest bigger.

Firefox 14 is a slight improvement to the slightly shaky start of Firefox 13. I mainly use Seamonkey but it's based on *exactly* the same codebase as Firefox. That being said, I did experience some crashing of Firefox after the first week of use. Some were simple things like scrolling a mouse or jumping to another tab. Really dumb, really random. As mysteriouly as the crashes came, they mysteriously went away.

I've been running all the 14 betas since they went live and the one thing I notice is an improvement in rendering speed. I haven't had any crashes with the 14 betas so far and the issues with crashing on Flash content has been fixed both of Mozilla and Adobe's end.

All in all, improving quite nicely and smoking Chrome in all speed tests on speed-battle.com. Just sayin'.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v14.0 Beta 8 on Jun 20, 2012

Mrs/Miss/Ms Cow: I really wonder if you have installed this or if your windows installation is corrupt or full of junk as Firefox continues to improve with each release. It also works fine on my 27" display.

From version 13 FF has improved in speed greatly, & I have no issues either in Windows or with version 13 in Linux & can only wonder why you do ~ (I'm intrigued: What browser do you actually use?)

Great browser!

SexyCow

SexyCow reviewed v14.0 Beta 7 on Jun 18, 2012

Getting worse with with every new version, the UI is going down the drain, the speed ain't increasing but decreasing, the logical layout is being undressed for these gadget smartphones, and they just copy&paste all the rest from Chrome.
The bugfixing guys all work independently, resulting in every 1 bug fixed introducing 5 new bugs,
They may be glad the addon developers are keeping a part of their userbase at bay, but most of these are shifting to Chrome also.

2 points for at least trying to keep up.

2 points for at least

EMDEE49

EMDEE49 reviewed v16.0 Alpha 1 on Jun 9, 2012

I use this on a 64 bit win 7 Dell Laptop at work without issues. I use FF V16.a1 64bit exclusively with J.D.Edwards and it is insanely fast and stable...

Keep up the great work........getting better

Bonobi

Bonobi reviewed v16.0 Alpha 1 on Jun 9, 2012

Wow, it runs very smooth and fluid. No problems at any of the sites I visit either.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v16.0 Alpha 1 on Jun 8, 2012

Been having some slow down probs with Firefox 13. Also some sites aren't working either. So I saw that this 64 bit version which I never saw before and its been great so far. Very fast, and so far no problems with any of my usually sites. I'm running a 64 bit windows 7 pc. Maybe its time more 64 bit programs are released. Lord knows, I've had a ton of software problems since I got this pc.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v13.0 on Jun 4, 2012

I'm happy with it. I am a die hard FF fan but have been using Pale Moon for some time now. This compares very well to Pale Moon 12.1. If there are no significant differences between this and the 13.0 update to Pale Moon when it comes out I may be back to FF full time. Definitely a 5 star program.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v13.0 on Jun 4, 2012

Still the best browser on the market.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v13.0 on Jun 4, 2012

No problems either on two Windows 7 PC's & on my old DELL laptop running XP.

Great release!

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v13.0 on Jun 4, 2012

@bigspud: *JUST* upgraded to 13 *FROM* 3.6???? Really? REALLY? Troll much? You waited 10 versions to upgrade and you are wondering why you are having problems? It's like complaining about upgrading from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7 64-bit and blaming the OS. If you didn't keep up with the newer versions after 3.6 and are having problems that's your fault chump, not Mozilla's.

Firefox 13 final is running like gangbusters on my old Pentium M 2.26MHz laptop and XP SP3. Big performance win with this version.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v13.0 Beta 7 on Jun 1, 2012

tried upgrading from 3.6, now ff unusable.
these new versions are even worse than ie.
i guess google millions$ payment to mozilla means they are steering the ff ship, which is sinking fast.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v13.0 Beta 7 on Jun 1, 2012

This has to be the best thing that's happened to Firefox in years!

One hundred billion stars ~

SineWave

SineWave reviewed v12.0 on May 31, 2012

Still using 3.6.28 as all of these updates are quite confusing, and 3.6.28 works great. Until this storm calms down, I'm going to be using 3.6.28. I don't even want to try v12.

I do expect that hardware [VGA] acceleration will bring it up to speed, but there are probably many bugs to squash before this version becomes as reliable as v3.6.

It's a bit sad. To say the least. As if aliens infested Mozilla? LOL Three stars for the effort... but I'm not going to advice anyone to upgrade from 3.6. On the contrary - I will highly advice against it.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v13.0 Beta 6 on May 30, 2012

Looking very good, I abandoned Chrome some time ago based on their increasing desire to know just about every aspect of my life.

A brief flirtation last week with Chrome has not changed my mind but rather reinforced my opinion that FireFox is the best browser there is.

Will be even better after the final & PaleMoon clean it up even further.

VelvetElvis

VelvetElvis reviewed v13.0 Beta 5 on May 27, 2012

Love this browser, and have for years, but disappointed that Mozilla has drank the Google KoolAid regarding releasing minor improvements as full-point releases. Going from v2 to 3 to 4 was a Big Deal, now it's .

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v13.0 Beta 5 on May 24, 2012

I commend Mozilla for supporting old OSes for as long as they did but the bi-product was that all the other browsers didn't have the legacy Achilles Heel that Firefox et al did and started to gain in speed and performance. Beginning with this version, Mozilla finally decided to cut the cord and dump the legacy support so they can finally crank up performance. I hope it's not too little to late as they should have done this probably back in the Firefox 4 days. 13 is shaping up to be fast and lean and I notice with this 5th beta how much so as compared to version 12. Hope the Mozilla folks can reclaim the performance crown and win back all those who have fled to Chrome and other browsers. Benchmarks I've seen so far are very, very promising.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v13.0 Beta 4 on May 18, 2012

This beta has made a ton of progress. It's much more friendly and now supports my security system. It also supports all my extensions.

Assirius

Assirius reviewed v13.0 Beta 4 on May 18, 2012

Still the best absolutely .
;-)
Its power lies in its frequent updates !

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v13.0 Beta 3 on May 11, 2012

The problem I have with this version is the failure of my system security to auto-update when it's installed.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v9.0.1 on May 8, 2012

S P Y W A R E

you dont able clear form search history that check greyed forever

S P Y W A R E

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v10.0.2 on May 8, 2012

S P Y W A R E

you dont able clear form search history that check greyed forever

S P Y W A R E

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v13.0 Beta 2 on May 3, 2012

@Uriel

or ... just use Palemoon.

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v13.0 Beta 2 on May 2, 2012

Since Firefox depends on marketers for their bread and butter, they seem to be developing the browser to meet the of those where their source of revenue comes from. This means that those who value their privacy will have to fight harder to protect it. I have ditched Firefox for the Pale Moon spin off.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v12.0 on Apr 30, 2012

6 tabs open without flash content, 48% of CPU usage and 312MB of memory consumption, I'm user of firefox since v1.5 and I saw the downfall since v4 to this crap, I'm really tired of it, I think I'll try opera or be back to FF v3.6.20 since I dislike chrome too.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v13.0 Beta 1 on Apr 30, 2012

Welcome to the new silent update. no thanks

Pale Moon fortunately will not be following suit

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v15.0 Alpha 1 on Apr 30, 2012

v15? hahahahahaha

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v12.0 on Apr 26, 2012

This browser doesn't need a review, it needs an exterminator. My security system wouldn't auto-update, backup software was non-functional and system cleaner didn't work.

Mozilla can have this back with a loud NO!

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v12.0 on Apr 24, 2012

I'm frustrated with these rapid releases.

In part because things that worked perfectly in v3.6.x do not work - either at all or in part - in 12.

Adblock Plus in 3.6 works incredibly well. But in 12, even with that option unselected to allow certain ads through, there are a Bunch of ads that get through. I will check out Google News and ads that do not show up on 3.6.x show up in 12. Same thing for YouTube and many other channels.

The skin I use, Past Modern, does not work with 12 either.

TabMix Plus works differently, as does Custom Geometry - and I seem to lose some functionality.

I really dig Firefox. v3.6.27 works GREAT for me. Why do they have to go and break stuff that works?

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.0 on Apr 23, 2012

Fast and clean. Firefox may be catching up with Pale Moon finally.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v12.0 on Apr 23, 2012

Wow, noticeable improvement in speed and loading of pages. Want even faster rendering? Go to about:config and enable SPDY. This is also the last version that will work on Windows 2000 and older OSes. Can't wait for Fx13. Major speed and performance boost coming. Woot!

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v12.0 Beta 6 on Apr 19, 2012

Would be nice if people that complain about websites not displaying correctly would post a couple here to test out. FF is my primary browser and I have no plans of changing soon. Look forward to using 64-bit version that isn't nightly version.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v12.0 Beta 6 on Apr 18, 2012

I gave this a try and I must admit, on my Win 7 64 bit system it rocks pretty well. Seems as fast or faster as the latest Pale Moon Version.

@Bruno........you are not even worth calling a troll.
@ Blaxima....I'm not sure what you are on about. I visit many, many graphics intensive pages, including those with an assortment of videos. I have never seen this FF broken image icon you are talking about.

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v12.0 Beta 4 on Apr 4, 2012

If Roboform doesn't start supporting the Blue Moon browser, I'm gonna have to drop Roboform as well.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v11.0 on Mar 17, 2012

Firefox is a goner. They just can't keep up with Google's development pace because they're not used to it. The fact that they've decided to push out new releases as frequently as Google has taken a serious toll on Firefox. Instead of getting better with each release, it's just becoming worse.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v12.0 Beta 1 on Mar 16, 2012

"top lighting speed"?!?! I'm thinking people that are fapping over this browser really aren't testing the others.

It's (supposedly) at version 12 and all of the issues I've always had with this browser remain with any improvements to them being only slight at best. A perfect example of something that irks me is that stupid broken image icon that ff put all over a page until it is able to load them. Other browsers don't and just load the images faster. It's not uncommon for me to go to a video and image intensive page and see all (that means IE too) the other browsers have loaded the page while ff is still replacing that icon with the image.

Chrome really has surpassed this but I wouldn't touch that vanilla spyware anymore

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v11.0 on Mar 14, 2012

I hate to say it, but version 11 is a big step back for Firefox. In the few days I've been using it, webpages that loaded perfectly on Firefox 10 are now loading incorrectly. I would have learned to accept it if it only happened a couple times, but it's happening all to frequently. This version has serious problems and should have never been allowed out of testing. I'm going to switch back to Firefox 10.0.2.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v11.0 on Mar 14, 2012

The Troll is trolling!!! :-)
About my default browser: every version new add-ons with problems!

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v11.0 on Mar 14, 2012

oh for God's sake bruno70, are you really that stupid? It's not Windows 11, it's Firefox ver 11 for Windows. Where do trolls like you breed?

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v11.0 on Mar 14, 2012

Seems faster & I haven't had any issues.

For more info on enabling SPDY go:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v11.0 on Mar 13, 2012

Yup, 11 final was built last night and will go live today if not already. If you download and install it and it has a Build ID of 20120312181643 you are good. In terms of speed, it seems snappier. You can finally turn on SPDY with this version. No issues installing over 10.0.2 for me.

Music4Ever

Music4Ever reviewed v11.0 Beta 6 on Mar 6, 2012

I like the direction FF is going, it can only get better.

There is a great add-on that actually prevents just about all tracking, it makes very interesting viewing even if you are not paranoid - http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php

I have no connection with this writers of this add-on, I actually saw it a couple of weeks ago on a UK PC magazine forum I frequent.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v11.0 Beta 6 on Mar 6, 2012

Great browser. The last BETA ran fine on my computer,so I'll give it a 5 but I recently started using Palemoon. It's hard to beat for overall speed . I wish more Chrome users would give it a shot like Input Overload. I doubt that you would want to go back. Mozilla browsers remain the most customizable of any.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v11.0 Beta 5 on Feb 29, 2012

Can't be that buggy.
Used previous version without issues.

gatorfan95

gatorfan95 reviewed v11.0 Beta 5 on Feb 29, 2012

I give it a 5 for what it does and out of years of loyalty.......Palemoon is much better on my Win 7, 64 bit machine however, for those of you who dont want to wait until version 13. Glad to hear they might switch to a better compiler and drop support for 2000 and XP Sp1. But I've heard this before and been left hanging.....Palemoon until then

carlvui

carlvui reviewed v10.0.2 on Feb 19, 2012

I see Mozilla is trying hard and I wouldn't contest the fact it has many great features I have always liked, but it seems the development environment is either unwilling or have difficulties to follow Mozilla's new development philosophy and market policy of releasing a brand new main version in every six weeks, not mentioning, they are still buggy and need a lot of fixes.

Upgrading to v10 now, I would lose three main and useful extensions of my Kaspersky internet security softpack, moreover even the latest Java Console 6.0.31 and many other minor extensions in the add-ons as they are not compatible with FF and Mozilla disables them all.

It seems Mozilla doesn't mind upsetting or even losing a a considerable part of its most dedicated and loyal user base if the their business interests of advancing Firefox's features and technologies requires such a scarifies.

No problem. I still appreciate and like FF, but I have a fill of their bugs and headless hasty development project and now as I have to choose between my IS softpack and FF, I opt for my Kaspersky IS soft and I will see where to go as there are always more choices; Chrome, Opera or even if everybody thinks I am an idiot, I will turn back to IE if it is necessary.

I know, that no one is forcing me to use cutting edge that might have compatibility issues, but yes they do if they cease to deliver security updates and go to kill the old one. At this moment I am using v3 until I get security updates or it works and then let me see something else. Many thanks for the nice v3 Mozilla, and good bye now.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0.2 on Feb 19, 2012

Hugh G. Rection - I doubt that very much, they do say if you have to brag....

Where are these idiots coming from - As for FF getting better, looking forward also for later versions.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v11.0 Beta 3 on Feb 19, 2012

Pale Moon is still faster & smoother on a half decent PC, good to hear MZ are ditching the old Win versions - Pity it's not yet though.

Until them I will continue to use PM which is far better than Chrome which I used & defended for some time.

As for the reviews from 'TROLL' I can only wonder if He/She ever attended school.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v10.0.2 on Feb 17, 2012

Huge Erection / Hugh G. Rection....really? Of course, it's some 15 year old. Or just Bruno70 double-trolling. In any case, this is just a minor update to fix a couple issues and one security bug. I keep reading lots of good news coming down the pipe for version 13 though. Can't wait.

reddy.shyam

reddy.shyam reviewed v10.0.2 on Feb 17, 2012

Hugh, It just means Firefox 10.0.2 for Windows. They just write it the other way around.

Hugh G. Rection

Hugh G. Rection reviewed v10.0.1 on Feb 14, 2012

I agree with Bruno70.
What the hell is "Windows 10.0.1" when Windows 8 has
not even been released as a beta version yet?

Sekypapa

Sekypapa reviewed v10.0.1 on Feb 13, 2012

Much better and faster than the previous - I like it :)

tontito

tontito reviewed v10.0.1 on Feb 11, 2012

Betanews need to unallow less intelligent people from posting in here...

I really enjoy this version, tomshardware tests are saying that even v9 beats chrome :)

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0.1 on Feb 10, 2012

Pale Moon much better, sorry chaps. You know it;s true.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v10.0.1 on Feb 10, 2012

This point release just reverts one thing that a few people were having a problem with, nothing more. But on another note related to speed or rendering, if there are those of you out there in Chromeland smokin' the ganj stating that Chrome is leaps and bounds faster than Firefox, try enabling Pipeling (you know, the feature that's been around for 6+ years) in Firefox (Chrome is developing their own similar technology called SPDY). Go to about:config, set network.http.pipelining to true, restart Firefox. Clever tricks to make Chrome *seem* like its rendering faster does not make it a faster browser.

kb3grz

kb3grz reviewed v10.0.1 on Feb 10, 2012

I like using Firefox however this version 10.0.1 has a bug it always checks your extenstion compatabilty on start up and it hijacks you homepage even though you have it set in the browser options.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v11.0 Beta 2 on Feb 10, 2012

browser war rulez :-)

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v11.0 Beta 1 on Feb 6, 2012

Some real good fixes are going into v11 onward and those of you advocating Waterfox and others will be pleased to hear that Mozilla *officially* will kill support for Windows 2000 / Windows XP SP1 from version 13 onward. They are moving to a newer compiler that will GREATLY boost the performance of Firefox. About time. So, like, yay and stuff.

grum36

grum36 reviewed v13.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly) on Feb 4, 2012

i enjoy the x64 version since firefox 4 speeder than x32 but where are the aurora, beta and rc x64 !!!!!

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v10.0 on Jan 31, 2012

Unfortunately, 1 plug in i use allot (real player download) doesn't work. Everything else is fine. As for spammer Blaxima, go back to using mosaic, its about ur speed.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v10.0 on Jan 31, 2012

Have noticed the improvement in speed since the 8.x versions, overall, seems to be heading in the right direction. All my Firefox extensions work fine, rendering of sites is not problematic. Hope to see the improvements keep coming!!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v10.0 on Jan 31, 2012

I really wish Opera would work on the sites that this and Chrome do so I can stop needing 2 browsers.

With Google's draconian views on privacy I'd rather this or Pale Moon be my number 2 but in spite of the glowing sentiments here, this browser simply does not perform nearly as well as the other 2. Page loading times and resource consumption have always been an achilles and wild version number jumping aside, they still are.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v10.0 on Jan 31, 2012

Just installed 10.0 final and it's running fine. Glad to see that Mozilla decided that beginning with 10.0 they will mark as compatible all plugins/addons even if they are not built to run with 10.0. Now, all the whiners with their obscure plugins can quit complaining that it's Mozilla's fault their plugin developers hasn't gotten off his or her respective posterior and updated the plugin...in 3 years. Mozilla, it's taken you long enough but better late than never.

pfg

pfg reviewed v10.0 Beta 6 on Jan 25, 2012

Firefox is now ten years ahead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v10.0 Beta 6 on Jan 25, 2012

The amount of increased performance Mozilla has been squeezing out of Firefox since 6.x is amazing. 10 is very polished 9.0 as far as I can tell. 11 on up is where the new features start getting merged. But I have to admit that they are holding back the performance of Firefox by continuing to keep in support for ancient OSes like Windows 2000 or earlier. I've seen what Pale Moon can do when the legacy cruft is trimmed out and it's truly what the Mozilla devs should consider doing to stay relevant in the performance arena. They caught up well enough to Chrome in terms of performance but because they continue to maintain legacy compatibility, they'll never beat Chrome. Hey Mozilla devs, drop support for anything older than Win2K and take a hint from the Pale Moon devs and you'll get back all those users you lost to Chrome.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0 Beta 5 on Jan 19, 2012

Hope when 10 goes final Pale Moon release it in eventually, if you like FF you will LOVE Pale moon esp. under Windows. (its true)

niknetpc

niknetpc reviewed v10.0 Beta 4 on Jan 12, 2012

Best just got better! Now waiting for bruno70..;)

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v10.0 Beta 4 on Jan 12, 2012

I don't see or feel the speed increase from 9.0 to 10.0 as I did going from 8.0 to 9.0 but it seems a little snappier overall. Most of the stuff they wanted to improve and put into 9 that wasn't fully baked is going into 10. Looks like the add-on compatibility mode *might* be turned on by default for this version. All those whiners whose ancient and dead add-ons the developers are no longer updating or supporting will allegedly work in some capacity. Overall, it seems Mozilla has finally gotten Firefox to where it'll render benchmarks of my-browser-is-faster-than-your-browser war irrelevant. Now if they would just fix the damn issue with printing blank pages that have a SWF image/anim I'd be happier (see bug 590951).

harryrai

harryrai reviewed v10.0 Beta 3 on Jan 6, 2012

i just downloaded the latest version... it rocks..
performance ok...but cool

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0 Beta 3 on Jan 6, 2012

The best FF available at the moment, sorted most of my major issues the 9.xx, still prefer Chrome but FF is still nice.

Still managing to be nicer in 2012 made it so far :-)

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v9.0.1 on Jan 1, 2012

this is just junk, no wonder everyone is switching to chrome.
i think google paid $300 million to mozilla so they would sabotage firefox.
mozilla needs to go back to v3.6 and just do minor tweaks.

ghosten

ghosten reviewed v12.0 Alpha 1 - Nightly Build on Dec 26, 2011

what a nice experience with this nightly! thank you Firefox people....perfect! top lightning speed and reliable

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v10.0 Beta 1 on Dec 25, 2011

we're waiting for Firefox 232....

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0 Beta 1 on Dec 23, 2011

BTW Version 9 has had an incremental update to 9.0.1. Unusually this has not broken extensions & themes.

martylynn72

martylynn72 reviewed v12.0 Alpha 1 - Nightly Build on Dec 23, 2011

This version for an alpha is pure blazimg fire with no problems so far on my home built quad core AMD. Runs stable. Adobe Flash works fine.

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v12.0 Alpha 1 - Nightly Build on Dec 23, 2011

v12 Already? Hahahahahahahaha

Eeyan

Eeyan reviewed v10.0 Beta 1 on Dec 22, 2011

Just downloaded this version (v10 B1) It seems crisper and snappier than v9.

reddy.shyam

reddy.shyam reviewed v12.0 Alpha 1 - Nightly Build on Dec 22, 2011

Excellent! A 64bit finally straight from mozilla. Nice! Looking forward for the stable version.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v12.0 Alpha 1 - Nightly Build on Dec 22, 2011

No reviews yet.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v9.0.1 on Dec 22, 2011

To Uriel
Well ther you go, Chrome have don a better job that Firefox then.
Chrome is the best anyway.

DrTeeth

DrTeeth reviewed v9.0.1 on Dec 22, 2011

Reasons for using Firefox, in no particular order:-
1) Extensions
2) Bookmark sidebar so bookmarks always visible (unlike Chromium - I don't use Google-branded release)
3) I do not have to click mouse to activate the bookmarks sidebar or main window (like with IE)

TC17

TC17 reviewed v9.0.1 on Dec 22, 2011

Still my favorite browser.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v9.0.1 on Dec 21, 2011

9.0.1 sent out just a few hours after version 9 was released. Curious. Either way, still the best browser out on the market..

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

I've loved Firefox for a long time, but after a while I got irritated with it's instability so I turned to Google Chrome. Chrome is acceptable, but overly simplistic and lacks customization not to mention Google's aggressive marketing. Firefox's best features are it's Extensions, Live Bookmarks, Clean Interface, Access to Advanced Settings and Speed. I can't get used to any other browser and I've tried them all.

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

Still the best browser. The only reason Google Chrome popularity is increasing is because of all the sneak installs that come with freeware.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

Still the best and not ripping off code to enhance their browser. Yeah, I'm looking at YOU Google. Please report @Bruno to the Betanews people or just tell Betanews to fix the Syntax of the file forums so syntax Nazi's like Bruno will write proper reviews.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

Still the best browser out there. No browser comes close as far as add on's and features. Speed, really dont difference between and of the top browsers.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

In all fairness & because I did a C image last night installed this version of FF. It's a pretty good browser (edit: no it's not) but as a Chrome fan I still feel it's losing points with each release to Chrome. Maybe they need to start again with a blank sheet?

It would be churlish to say or rate FF as rubbish as it's not, (edit: yes it is) but i can see why Chrome is adding users & FF is losing them. Chrome can be fully setup in less than 5 mins, FF takes some time as does my old favorite Opera.

For whatever reason Chrome does to me to have the edge on speed, neither is it as clunky, my home page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news crashed on several occasions, I haven't had this with Chrome as long as I can remember. M developers need to get a grip & visit the planet earth. I did give it 3 stars but after living with FF this morning that has gone to 2 stars.

It will be interesting to review FF next xmas as if they don't pull something out of the hat sharpish I see FF going further downhill which would be a shame as competition is always a good thing & I don't even count IE.

@bruno70, what are you on?

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

@smaragdu
Well said sir, Firefox developers spoiled it big time.

tontito

tontito reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

Hey smaragdus, how long have you been spreading that crap reviews without testing new versions?

Are you writing just to increase your post counts?

A lot of things changed since version 6 and 7, maybe you should try before reviewing anything else...

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

The guys from Mozilla ruined the best browser ever with version 4 so I was forced to switch to SeaMonkey (which uses the same great Gecko engine but allows more customization and the GUi is not ruined).

Firefox has been crippled in every possible way since version 4 (the beginning of Firefox downfall):

- preposterous version numbering- it is absurd to release buggy versions without thorough testing, it is absurd to try to catch up with Google Chrome version numbers, it is absurd to torture add-on developers- most of them develop add-ons in their free time so they cannot keep to this crazy release contest with Google Chrome and as a result many add-ons turn out to be incompatible with every new Firefox version.

- removal of everything useful, for example- RSS icon from the URL bar. The classic Status Bar has been removed and replaced with the terrible add-ons bar (the +(close) button is just idiotic, the visible bars could be customized from Options menu). So users are given no options to customize the browser. Firefox developers (Asa Dotzler and the like) are deaf to users’ opinions, suggestions and feedback and it seems that their target group is not the power users but the ignorant masses (an example of their absurd logic- only 10% of Firefox users use RSS feeds, so then let’s remove it entirely from the URL bar with no option of enabling it, which will have only one effect- those who has been utilizing it will suffer while those who have never been aware of what RSS means will most likely not notice the difference at all).

- imitating other browsers’ GUIs- copycatting from Opera and Google Chrome will not make those who prefer Opera and Google Chrome like Firefox and switch to it. On the contrary, those who have been using Firefox for years will be disappointed since one of the reasons of choosing Firefox has been its GUI. As a result of the GUI change Firefox lost its identity.

- removal by default of http:// – this is sheer idiocy since it prevents users from copying/sharing/saving/publishing the exact URL address of a web page.

- with every new release Firefox becomes more and more resource-hungry, less stable and slower.

I can elaborate more on Firefox collapse but I don’t have the time. In brief- Firefox looks like Opera/Google Chrome now but performs much worse- it starts slower, loads pages slower, crashes often, it has been stripped of functionality and customization options, with every new release there is a large number of add-ons that would not work being incompatible, and has adopted a ludicrous version numbering (for less than a year the version number doubled- for 7 years of development Firefox has reached version 3.6+ and for 9 months it accumulated to 9/10) that does not illustrate the actual development.

Before version 4 I recommended Firefox to everyone and installed it to my friends’ machines. I do this no more.

lovenuke

lovenuke reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

Thanks for sharing all useful links..

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v9.0 Final on Dec 20, 2011

It may technically be the final build, but it still installs as a beta. This is confirmed by the "you are running a beta" welcome screen post-installation.

It's not "final" until it hits the main Mozilla download page.

ali4ek

ali4ek reviewed v9.0 Beta 6 on Dec 19, 2011

Released 9.0:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/9.0/

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v9.0 Beta 6 on Dec 14, 2011

Going to try the new beta out, was experiencing blue a few blue screens, nvidia driver crashing (latest one) which only happens when firefox 9 beta 5 was running, I'm guessing a bug with hardware acceleration.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v9.0 Beta 5 on Dec 9, 2011

Chrome, Chrome, Chrome. Really? SO much better? I tried it and I didn't see what all the fuss was about. Clever algorithms to make it *appear* the page is loading faster than it actually is is just snake oil to me. Sure, it's easy to steal the features of firefox and make a *better* browser when you've got tons of highly paid programmers doing the work. It's easy to make a *better* browser when you can fully see what's in someone else's code and fix what's wrong and stuff it into your browser and call it progress. The fact of the matter is Firefox is a bit late to the speed and performance game but it has caught up with Chrome. Firefox is a totally different model of development than Chrome so quit complaining. To all the naysayers who say Chrome does not copy or steal from Firefox code: why is Google *SO* hell bent on finishing an HTTP Pipelining solution (something Mozilla browsers have had for, oh I dunno, 5+ years) before Firefox 9 goes gold? You do the math. Firefox is still my browser of choice. Bruno's real name is Gil Masen.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v9.0 Beta 5 on Dec 9, 2011

Too little too late, nothing like as fast or as easy to setup as Chrome.

Expect to see FF losing more ground to Chrome in the coming months as FF struggles to find its way which it lost a year or so ago.

@bruno, what are you on about?

@Monkey – Regardless of your defence of FF it is losing ground & looking at any graph it’s pretty obvious that this is going to continue.

As you say Chrome does load faster, for whatever reason is not relevant, the fact that it does this is sufficient for the majority of users that have no knowledge of programming. Let’s see how things are in maybe a years’ time, that fair I think.

Your spirited defense of a sinking ship is fair dink-um. Oh & BTW If I want to complain I will, OK?

Roman Pillow

Roman Pillow reviewed v9.0 Beta 5 on Dec 8, 2011

It's getting better where it needs it the most, under-the-hood optimizations and speed. Great !

elopez17

elopez17 reviewed v9.0 Beta 5 on Dec 8, 2011

would Adobe Flash Player work with beta 9 ?

niknetpc

niknetpc reviewed v9.0 Beta 5 on Dec 8, 2011

MOZILLA FIREFOX (v9) 9.0 Beta 5 - FOR WINDOWS - (For Bruno70) :)

johnk119

johnk119 reviewed v9.0 Beta 4 on Dec 6, 2011

people they're allowed to call their revisions anything they want either use them or don't... and it doesn't mean it's for windows 9 it means its the 9th version... it's nice to see such an educated person out there

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v9.0 Beta 4 on Dec 1, 2011

Mozilla has gone wild with their versioning conventions :D

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v8.0.1 on Nov 28, 2011

This browser doesn't coordinate well with my system security program. The browser is just fine, so I'll have to check with my security folks to see what's up.

jenusi

jenusi reviewed v7.0.1 on Nov 25, 2011

dump firefox, get chrome at www.google.com/chrome

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v3.6.24 on Nov 22, 2011

3.6.x (now at 24) still works great on just about everything. All my plugins/addons remain functional and in tact and browsing each and every day is a pleasure. I like me some status bar!

I really don't like that Mozilla has taken on the Chrome schedule It's not only a mess for plugin/addon writers and the like, but for anybody trying to get their company to actually consider Firefox as an option.

Hope I don't have to leave 3.6.x anytime soon.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on Nov 17, 2011

Works fine for me on XP and Win 7. And now, to get rid of Bruno70: Contact the Betanews team and get his account removed. He's either Noam Chomsky or a Noam Chomsky's favorite student. In any case, the only way to get him kicked off is to write to Betanews and get him removed.

bataraja

bataraja reviewed v9.0 Beta 2 on Nov 17, 2011

I still can not believe that the world is so full of ret***s! Come on! Windows 9? Really? Folks, turn on the brain before you comment on this piece of software! This is a beta 2 version of Firefox 9 for Windows 7/2000/2003/Vista/XP! And btw, nice work you guys from Mozilla! ;)

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v8.0.1 on Nov 17, 2011

Nice but still losing ground to Chrome.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v9.0 Beta 1 on Nov 10, 2011

*** off topic alert ***
In our age of Twitter and rap music it's very sad how American En has been butchered. A testament to the abysmal standards throughout the American public school system. Confusing uses of grammar, poor syntax, poor understanding of verbs proceeding proper nouns and we have what I suspect are American born posters illiterate of their own language.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v8.0 on Nov 7, 2011

Two bugs that see immediately with new version

1)On installation, theme switched to default. If this is intentional than it is bad idea.
2)Firefox process does not stop when browser window get closed. Very annoying and inconvenient when restarting Firefox after updating addons.

Also I do not remember Firefox to take so much memory from the start. What is going on with memory management?

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v8.0 on Nov 7, 2011

So far so good. All themes and add on's worked. Still the best browser out in about. Though allowing spammers like Bruno to voice bs is a little annoying.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v8.0 on Nov 7, 2011

To anyone wanting to spew against Bruno70, he's a troll who is just pointing out the fact that the syntax of the sentence "Mozilla Firefox (v8) for Windows 8.0" does make it *sound* like it's for Windows 8.0. Although the rest of the 99.999% of us understand that it is not for Windows 8.0 but Firefox 8.0, we score it accordingly. It's just the user Bruno70's way of downrating for the sake of downrating until Betanews fixes the syntax mistake.

As far as the final of 8.0 is concerned, it's running great here. All my addons work fine. Maybe addon developers finally got the hint that they should keep up work, eh?

jeck

jeck reviewed v3.6.22 on Nov 4, 2011

I never had any real problems with v3; I believe I was using v3.6.18 when I first upgraded to v4.01.

The only reason I upgraded was to see if v4 would handle heavy flash environments better than v3. V3 does handle Flash well, but in heavy Flash environments, at least for me, it tended to slow down and degrade a lot. V4 does handle the heavy Flash environments better than v3 and is faster overall, but v4 has problems.

Firefox v3 is the most stable and reliable browser I've ever used and I had no problem with my add-on extensions with v3 either.

v3 is still my favorite and I highly recommend it. If they can make the newer versions as stable and reliable as v3 then they will once again have a great browser, but they haven't achieved that yet.

jeck

jeck reviewed v5.0.1 on Nov 4, 2011

Firefox is my default browser; I won't use IE and I won't use Chrome. IE is still IE with all of it's problems and doesn't hold a candle to Firefox, no matter the version, and it MS so you know they're being nosy. Chrome I've heard works very well with Flash, but it's still the nosiest browser out there then add the fact that it's not configurable. I have Opera installed, but only use it for certain things. I've also tried Apple Safari and oh yeah it's fast, but there are just some facets of Flash it just can't handle and of course it's not at all configurable.

So, that brings us back to Firefox; I upgraded to version 4.01 from version 3 as v3 handled Flash pretty well, but in a heavy Flash environment it tended to slow down and degrade a lot more. V4 seems to be able to handle the heavy Flash environments much better and is much faster overall that v3.

My one complaint with v4.01 is that it crashes quite a bit usually when there is a lot of page switching going on. Other than that is great.

No change with v5; it still crashes with heavy page switching. Other than that I have not problems with it.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v8.0 Beta 6 on Nov 1, 2011

Some versions are already being prepared for Win 8 (touchscreen version that might be released in 2012) but I don't think that is the intent here. Currently using Ver 8 with no major problems and using Nightly ver 10 (allows for real 64 bit installation) with no major problems other than a few addons not working.

aszure

aszure reviewed v8.0 Beta 6 on Nov 1, 2011

@Bruno You are a retard. It's v8 of Firefox, not Windows 8

egg83

egg83 reviewed v8.0 Beta 4 on Oct 21, 2011

Have been using this version since it was in alpha stage, and I think they got it right on this version. Virtually all my extensions work, is far more responsive performance wise, and is not such a freaking memory hog as the previous versions. Now they have a true contender in the browser wars!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v8.0 Beta 4 on Oct 21, 2011

A-1 for a beta that doesn't behave like one.

Tallpaultn

Tallpaultn reviewed v8.0 Beta 3 on Oct 14, 2011

I've been using Mozilla Firefox 8.0b3 since it came out earlier today & I must say I'm very impressed--it works great for a beta version. It Is by far the smoothest running version of Firefox on my WinVista SP2 that I've used & I've tried almost every version that Mozilla has released. Resource usage is low & my add-ons are working as expected also. Thanks & please keep up the good work--looking forward to future releases...

StormChild

StormChild reviewed v8.0 Beta 3 on Oct 13, 2011

@WebWarp: have you seen my post right before yours? 8.0 is the version of Firefox, and it runs under Win2K to Win7 (Win8). I'm using Firefox 8.0 beta, and I just like it.

8.0 is the version of Firefox, right? ;))

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v8.0 Beta 3 on Oct 13, 2011

Great - But not for windows 8.. Don't know why publisher has written so...??

StormChild

StormChild reviewed v8.0 Beta 2 on Oct 9, 2011

bruno70: you're a dumb*ss, aren't you? The 8.0 is the version of Firefox, you know - I assume you will post your misunderstandings here @ fileforum in the future, but I don't know, why is it good for you?

Back to Firefox v8b2: faster and more stable than the previous releases with one-two minor bugs, so for me it's 5/5.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v8.0 Beta 2 on Oct 9, 2011

Not worth the effort of downloading let alone installing. Does not get any less clunky. had it's day. Time for you all to move on.The Fat Lady is about to sing.

BTW RE: bruno70', Is this man for real? He seems to live in some sort of parallel universe where others understand what he is talking about because I don't.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v9.0 Alpha 2 (Nightly Build) on Oct 7, 2011

No ((((( traumadoc ))))) I was saying what I said because I am getting tired of people coming into this forum & making the statement that they don't have windows 9 and so on & so on. If you don't understand that reasoning, I can't help you. So just shut up & take your trolling a** someplace else.

Bala7

Bala7 reviewed v8.0 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2011

Changes for 8.0
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/log

SuzzyWoozy

SuzzyWoozy reviewed v8.0 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2011

Don't bother download, go get version 10.0a1 (early alpha tough, available on FileForum), which works just the same but at least you have the chance to experience the latest "innovations".

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v8.0 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2011

Ok so no version of 8 will start for me on any computer.. do I have an addon that it doesn't like or something?

westor

westor reviewed v8.0 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2011

What the **** any changelog for the 8.0 beta 2 is not available ?

Luc72

Luc72 reviewed v7.0.1 on Oct 7, 2011

Nothing of special... again after installing or removing an addon the browser should be restarted..

cricri_pingouin

cricri_pingouin reviewed v10.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Oct 3, 2011

I'm not normally the kind to complain about something as intangible as version number, but this is becoming ridiculous.
I just upgraded to 7. Now, there's 8 beta available, fair enough. 9 alpha as well? Oh, hum, okay, I'll just ignore it as usual. What, there's 10 alpha as well?
Way to confuse the consumer.
Also the reason I prefer Firefox over Chrome is the abundance of addons, but the runaway version number train doesn't give a chance to keep their compatibility tag up to date, and if you patch them manually, it's at your own risk.
To conclude: ridiculous. If the sole purpose is to overtake Chrome in version number, why bother with standard increments: just call the next one v69 and give addons developers a break.

UrieI

UrieI reviewed v7.0.1 on Oct 2, 2011

This browser sux, bloatware and spyware is what you get.

Ryusennin

Ryusennin reviewed v10.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Oct 2, 2011

No better, no worse than the last six versions. It's increasingly bloated, but it's functional AND it now passes Acid3 -- at long last!

Bart Welson

Bart Welson reviewed v7.0.1 on Oct 1, 2011

Their "Better Memory Management" has stumbled into the same pit as their previous "Tab Isolation" and "Full Hardware Acceleration" new feature LIES.

People do not like to be lied to. Definatelly not if it becomes a habit.

tontito

tontito reviewed v7.0.1 on Oct 1, 2011

People still try to put it down but it is getting better.

I have also noticed the memory optimization.

It seems more people have they eyes open: http://lifehacker.com/58...net-explorer-9-and-more

soldier1st

soldier1st reviewed v7.0.1 on Sep 30, 2011

Firefox finally got better. Version 4,5 were terrible but Version 6 was decent but 7 is even better.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v7.0.1 on Sep 30, 2011

Firefox seems to have lost direction. This version is, at best, usable. It's certainly not very intuitive and my system indicates an increase in resource use. The users have shown a great deal of patience, time for Firefox to put up or shut up.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v7.0.1 on Sep 30, 2011

So they have to release a bug fix just a couple days after this supposed major release. What a pathetic attempt to not look like the new kids on the block and keep pace with Chrome's stupid version numbering scheme.

How bout a true portable version and not one made by a third party that still leaves folders all over the host computer?

50% improvement in memory consumption? Prove it because my test certainly can't. Check out many of the independent test and you'll see how this browser consistently finishes behind the others

With all the version numbers floating around the differences are hardly noticeable. It looks and feels outdated

I apologize if this review is somewhat hostile but Mozilla and some of its user base tend to be the most aggressive in trying to pull the wool over our eyes

UrieI

UrieI reviewed v10.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Sep 30, 2011

FF is bloatware and now they have a new alpha and beta release every single day.
FF is dying - RIP!

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v10.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Sep 29, 2011

FF builds will be overtaking Chrome soon. Strange how the Chrome knockers haven't noticed this. FF = Clunky garbage.

ONISURGE

ONISURGE reviewed v10.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Sep 29, 2011

Let's just get version 20 up here already.

roj

roj reviewed v7.0 on Sep 28, 2011

OK, here's the thing:

This five week "major release" cycle is complete rank stupidity and BS. It breaks add-ons unnecessarily, plays havoc with corporate installation strategies and is indicative of an unsustainable dev strategy created by 13 year olds.

Stop The Nonsense.

Have major revisions that ARE major revisions a couple of times a year at most and shoehorn the rest into point releases. I don't give a damn about your marketing posturing and neither does anyone else with a functional brain.

ZillaLand, you're NOT doing yourself any favors in either ConsumerLand or CorporateLand.

I'm going to give this release a ONE. It actually merits a FIVE because it is excellent code but it's getting a ONE because the "management" behind it (and I use the term extremely loosely) needs to get their heads from between their collective buttocks.

pfg

pfg reviewed v7.0 on Sep 27, 2011

After opening two windows packages and can not connect.
Needs work and I think eventually that the version 3 which is good.

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v7.0 on Sep 27, 2011

When are they going to start releasing portable version without having to use clumsy ones made my portable-apps and others?
Its 2011, portable please.
2 stars less for that.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v7.0 on Sep 27, 2011

Not available at the real firefox download page yet. It still wants to give me the 6.2 version. Is Mozilla just being slow to update the download page or what. For me the 7 beta out did the 6.2 in every way. I'm waiting till I can get the final 7 from Mozilla directly.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v7.0 on Sep 26, 2011

Don't see much of a change between the last beta and this final version. Finally nice and polished and using far, far less resources than before. Too bad the Mozilla guys didn't use that memory leak finding program many versions ago as it would have kept more folks in the Mozilla camp. Still, maybe this version will bring 'em back. Worthy of a 5 star rating.

penguin22

penguin22 reviewed v7.0 on Sep 26, 2011

As a Firefox user that switched to Chrome as my primary browser around version 3.5, this version if the milestone marker that has officially made me switch back. It makes me very happy that I can finally give Firefox a 5 rating as for some time I could not consciously do so.

I know people have complained about the rapid version number increase, but what Mozilla has been able to do as a result is consistently improve the issues that affect users the most; performance being the biggest improvement that 7 brings.

I still do use Chrome for a quick search here and there, but Firefox with some very useful extensions, a session manager that never mysteriously loses my data (using Tab Mix Plus for this), support for RSS bookmarks, bookmark icon synchronization with Xmarks, more intuitive Download Statusbar, etc., is home for me.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v7.0 on Sep 26, 2011

All my add on's made it over. And I have noticed an increase of speed while browsing. First increase I have seen since probably 3.5.

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v7.0 on Sep 26, 2011

FirefoxFuture releases
Firefox BETA Version 7.0 @ wikipedia
* Vastly improved memory use(up to 50% better) and increased speed[43]
* Added a new rendering backend to speed up Canvas operations on Windows systems
* Bookmark and password changes now sync almost instantly when using Firefox Sync
* Added support for text-overflow: ellipsis
* Added support for the Web Timing specification
* Added an opt-in system for users to send performance data back to Mozilla to improve future versions of Firefox. This can be enabled by installing an add-on
* Fixed several stability issues

Mozilla Firefox Beta Release Notes
Please see the complete list of changes in this version. You may also be interested in the list of changes in the previous version.

Firefox 7 is lean and fast | Nicholas Nethercote
Nicholas Nethercote
Developer
Mozilla Corporation

@OAKsider
Mozilla takes Firefox version numbers to the next level… by removing them | ExtremeTech

OAKsider

OAKsider reviewed v7.0 Beta 6 on Sep 23, 2011

Still the finest browser around (thanks a lot to extension developers)... but I think Mozilla, or a few key people there, are starting to go insane (see: version naming scheme).

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v7.0 Beta 6 on Sep 19, 2011

Oh snap, 100% on Acid3 Test since the last beta!? Not that Acid3 is a big deal but glad the Mozilla team finally got in line with some of the other browsers that score 100%. Very noticeable speed improvement over Beta 4 and 5. Mozilla needs to stop trying to copy what Chrome devs are doing with version numbering because it is just dumb. Add-on devs who aren't keeping up on the SDK...well, don't go blaming Mozilla if your add-ons don't work. Complain to the Dev of you Add-on because the newer SDK has some great features. Keep it rockin' Mozilla team.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v7.0 Beta 5 on Sep 9, 2011

Keeps getting better and Faster! Very stable. Memory usage is a lot less than previous versions.
Looks great with the QSQ theme, but that's just a personal preference.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v7.0 Beta 5 on Sep 9, 2011

Far better than Chrome is. Chrome is so lame it still doesn't have a "print preview" that EVERY other browser has had since they were originally released.

Also, this is a beta version of Firefox, not a final version.

nvic

nvic reviewed v7.0 Beta 5 on Sep 9, 2011

Using v6 currently. Good browser, but update frequency is ridiculous. Once every 3-6 months is reasonable for major updates, but once every 6 WEEKS?

Half my addons have to be forced to run because makers can't keep up with them.

pfg

pfg reviewed v6.0.2 on Sep 7, 2011

Version 6,0,2 Cannot view Add-ons

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.6.22 on Sep 6, 2011

{{("Mozilla Firefox (v3.6) for Windows")}] 3.6.22
or
Mozilla Firefox (v3.6) build 3.6.22 for Windows
or any thing but
"Mozilla Firefox (v3.6) for Windows 3.6.22"

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v3.6.22 on Sep 6, 2011

Windows 3.6.22 is never released just Windows 3.11

nilst2006

nilst2006 reviewed v7.0 Beta 3 on Sep 1, 2011

Once a good browser. Now: with all new versions, every 6th week, it has become a pain in the ... !

ali4ek

ali4ek reviewed v7.0 Beta 3 on Sep 1, 2011

Amazing browser, faster and better than Chrome and Opera.

Still no alternatives to at least the following extensions:
Tab Mix Plus
QuickDrag
MinimizeToTray

ecvogel

ecvogel reviewed v6.0.1 on Aug 31, 2011

Getting aouyed at the please upgrade to 6 and now 601. I had to take 6 off because most of my plugins do not support 6 yet...

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v6.0.1 on Aug 31, 2011

An update for: Revoked the root certificate for DigiNotar due to fraudulent SSL certificate issuance (see bug 682927 and the security advisory). Works well for me.

StormChild

StormChild reviewed v7.0 Beta 2 on Aug 27, 2011

Updated from 6.0 to 7.0b2 - works like a charm. It gets faster with every release, plus the memory footprint gets lower, so don't be a troll - give it a try! 5/5 as usual.

man friday

man friday reviewed v7.0 Beta 2 on Aug 26, 2011

Been less and less impressed with each release, getting slower as it goes

French_Pastiches

French_Pastiches reviewed v7.0 Beta 2 on Aug 26, 2011

Fine... as usual

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Aug 20, 2011

I have used Firefox since it was called Phoenix, but it's time has come and gone. The people in charge at Mozilla have become desperate trying to get this aging program caught up with other modern browsers, and they aren't even coming close.

The rapid releases and throwing sensible version numbers out the window, the continued memory and stability problems and the horrible excuse for an interface they brought out in 4.0 are just a few of the issues.

I gave Chrome another shot last week and after a few days of tinkering with it and installing the extensions I want I said farewell to Firefox and removed it from my system.

sjc001

sjc001 reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Aug 19, 2011

This is already obsolete with version 9.

alshawwa

alshawwa reviewed v7.0 Beta 1 on Aug 19, 2011

bruno man grow up will ya

dannyboy832

dannyboy832 reviewed v8.0 Alpha 2 (Aurora) on Aug 19, 2011

Moron, its typed misleadingly but anyone with *some* intelligence understands.

9.0 alpha is better.

djb247365

djb247365 reviewed v9.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Aug 19, 2011

Actually, I'm running this in a "portable" setting, and so far, so good. No issues whatsoever, and my add-ons work perfectly, despite most of them not being technically compatible with this version. I notice somewhat of an increase in speed with each upcoming version, and this one is no exception. So far, Firefox 9 is very quick and for me, it's very stable. It can only get better from here.

traumadoc

traumadoc reviewed v9.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Aug 18, 2011

DoHickey, are you REALLY that much of a moron? You really ARE THE ONLY person that has this reading inability. It's called "two lines of text" and not "one continuous line. Nobody but you is stupid enough to believe there is a Windows 9 or anything else. The rest of us have brains. I guess 'god's" brain to you is still "Beta."

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v6.0 on Aug 18, 2011

I had to go back to version 5.1 after one day of 6.0 use.
It was clunky and hung up on the oddest little things. Using the 5.1 is very quick to respond. I will stay with the 5.1 until they tweak the the 6.0 to fix issues. I know I can't be the only one having this problem or the only person still using Windows XP because of financial reason a new system or computer is out of the question..

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v9.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Aug 18, 2011

OK beta news, please fix the wording of this information. Mozilla Firefox (v9) for Windows 9.0 Alpha 1.
A better way is to say Mozilla Firefox version 9 alpha-1 for windows.
There are people that have nothing better to do than to say dah! I don't have windows 9. Read it and see that they have a point about the wording of this. It's stupid and you have been told before about this wording situation.The same goes for the other Firefox beta's that you are listing. The wording is the same as this one, like someone got hit with a stupid stick while typing it out.

sjc001

sjc001 reviewed v8.0 Alpha 2 (Aurora) on Aug 18, 2011

It is already obsolete with version 9 out...... Why bother?

sjc001

sjc001 reviewed v9.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Aug 18, 2011

They have to be joking.... How dumb do they take us for?

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v3.6.20 on Aug 16, 2011

Bruno70, you're and idiot.

some guy

some guy reviewed v3.6.20 on Aug 15, 2011

bruno70 hey Einstein this is not a operating system

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v6.0 on Aug 15, 2011

6.0 ups the game in terms of both speed, performance and memory usage. More HTML 5 support is nice, at least for Win 7 users. It does score a lower HTML5 score on XP but I am guessing Win 7 has many things XP doesn't as is why Win 7 scores higher. This is what Firefox 5 should have been like. Still, a welcome improvement. Keep up the good work Mozilla.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v8.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Aug 5, 2011

Keep in mind this is an alpha. my biggest complaint is a lag during scrolling. others have posted similar comments on mozilla's site. other than that, it runs fast and quite well. stability (as expected) is not 100%, and it has crashed on rare occasions. 4/5

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v6.0 Beta 4 on Aug 2, 2011

Why is some one posting versions of Firefox here using this confusing syntax ?

see my proposal in the Discussions

My rating here is purely an attempt to offset the negatives resulting from misunderstandings.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v6.0 Beta 4 on Aug 2, 2011

No change from beta 3. Running stable for me and add-ons work fine.

Please write to the Betanews crew and get bruno70 kicked off. He's obviously a spambot.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v6.0 Beta 3 on Jul 26, 2011

I notice memory use has lowered greatly, which was a major issue in the previous version.

bruno70, is some kind of apelike creature that has evolved sufficiently to type.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v6.0 Beta 3 on Jul 26, 2011

@TraumaDoc: Bruno is purposely giving it a bad review using the usual troll tactic for confusing the title of the file for the version of Windows. It's intentional.

Beta3 seems to be ok with my extensions and add-ons and no change in terms of bugs or issues. Works for me.

traumadoc

traumadoc reviewed v6.0 Beta 3 on Jul 26, 2011

They are finally doing some reasonably good work on this new version.

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bruno70

Fake! Its Windows 7, there is no Windows 6.0
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Dude (bruno70), you can't be serious, right? You are drunk or just lacking any IQ? It's version 6 of the program - this has NOTHING to do with the version of Windows. Windows 6? Nobody but YOU thought such a stupid thing !!

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v6.0 Beta 2 on Jul 18, 2011

Impressive speed gains over 5.0, both in launching and rendering.

They might yet keep me from moving to chrome if these performance enhancements keep on coming.

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v6.0 Beta 2 on Jul 18, 2011

Hmm, HTML 5 test score has gone down from Beta1. What is going on here Mozilla? Dis-implementing something not yet stable? No issues for me though and works well with my addons (AdBlock + and FlashGot).

TomK2542

TomK2542 reviewed v6.0 Beta 2 on Jul 18, 2011

Link is broken again.

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 16, 2011

Mozilla Firefox is a very good browser, but occasionally crashes and displays web-pages incorrectly. I've tried all the browsers and they each have their own problems, not one is completely usable. Google Chrome is Firefox's greatest competition, but it has some serious faults (Print Preview, Pop-up Blocking, Password Exporting and Opening File Types by Default). They don't have Google's money to burn, but they make due with what they have. I hope Mozilla's accelerated release cycle improves it's stability and usefulness. I'm not ready to abandon Firefox just yet.

psypress1

psypress1 reviewed v3.6.19 on Jul 12, 2011

FF3 is still the only version that many of my extensions and external apps like FDM will work correctly with, despite devs claiming they've been updated for v4-5. I'm not positive who to blame for this, but considering how slow and crash-prone FF 4 and 5 are, I suspect its Mozilla's failing. I'll run 3.x till I can't anymore. Its sad how most apps are getting worse with every new version. Frankly I've yet to see anything that FF 4 or 5 offer that's worth upgrading for.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v5.0.1 on Jul 12, 2011

Mozilla Foundation...and my Add-ons?

Monkey_Punch

Monkey_Punch reviewed v6.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2011

Good improvement over 5.x in terms of speed and has more HTML 5 spec additions. Scores higher on the HTML5 test which is good. Sofar, stable for me. @acey99, the HTML5 spec is not complete. Last call for revisions was May31st, 2011. Why are you complaining about lack of HTML5 completeness? It won't be determined as "complete" by the W3C until 2014. Parts of HTML5 are stable but the changes are ongoing. Jeez!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v6.0 Beta 1 on Jul 11, 2011

Download link not working.

TomK2542

TomK2542 reviewed v6.0 Beta 1 on Jul 11, 2011

Link not working

acey99

acey99 reviewed v6.0 Beta 1 on Jul 11, 2011

Love my FF, BUT...
the more oft updates, the new versioning & the lack of NEW HTML 5 features is pissing me off.
I mean get on the ball here guys, get all the HTML 5 stuff working then add new stuff.
Fix The memory leaks.
you're be hind Opera & Chrome for HTML 5 support, & almost IE 10.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v8.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Jul 8, 2011

Whomever is in charge of posting these programs on here needs to stop using this form of heading. It draws more flies than dog poop on a hot day.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, just read the heading & think of windows version numbers. I for one am tired of reading the stupid comments about it.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v8.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on Jul 7, 2011

Trolls will be trolls.

Edit: ...because there's other, more meaningful comments about Firefox...

gerry_g

gerry_g reviewed v5.0 on Jun 28, 2011

FireFox is no longer a "product". It depends upon add-ons that don't keep pace with the fast major version release cycle Even "compatible" add-ons seem to give you blank URLs in the address bar. I had to go back to 3.6.18 just to stay working.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 24, 2011

How do I hate thee. Let me make this easy. I don't like anything about thee. You're like a very bad Google Chrome.

Jazz150

Jazz150 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 24, 2011

I am a writer and was disappointed that spellcheck in English is missing from the latest version. I rely on it and it's annoying that it is not available.
Please add this as an option ASAP.

carlvui

carlvui reviewed v5.0 on Jun 24, 2011

They disappoint me.
V4 was just released and already disposed, gets no more updates or fixes.
Here comes V5 just immediately after V4 by forcing users to install newer and newer versions. V6 and V7 is just going to be released soon, and of course V5 will be abandoned by Mozilla in no time.
What the hack do they take users for?

Mozilla states it requires more than 512MB of RAM but in reality consumes a full 1 GB of RAM. And not only simply buggy i.e. works with incident but capable to mess up the whole computer.

Now, that does it. I uninstalled it again.
My suggestion, wait until Mozilla comes to their senses and starts playing fair.

some guy

some guy reviewed v3.6.18 on Jun 21, 2011

DudeBoyz you are completely right I will stick with this as long as they keep supporting it, all my plug-ins work again ! that's really will I use FF the plug-ins.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v5.0 on Jun 21, 2011

Now Official:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v5.0 on Jun 20, 2011

This is the Release Candidate. That means it MIGHT be the final release, unless something drastic happens that forces them to build a second one. It's due to go final this week.

However, I give it FIVE stars since it's an excellent program, and marking it down to 1 star (like some) just because it's not necessarily the final would be stupid. You mark the program according to how good it is, not according to how well fileforum got it right in labelling it.

Ramp4me

Ramp4me reviewed v5.0 on Jun 20, 2011

FAKE

dannyboy832

dannyboy832 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 20, 2011

Can people stop trolling.

OK, its not for 'windows 5.0'
OK, its only an RC, but who cares, mozilla RCs are as stable as finals anyway.

The thing about internet arguments is, even if you win, you're still retarded

traumadoc

traumadoc reviewed v5.0 on Jun 20, 2011

Dude, if you REALLY think you are so smart and know so much more than everyone else, why don't you be smart enough and download your English release from the directory you show us and install it - then find out what the hell version it is - it's not so difficult to see the "you are running the beta version" or something or another that gets loaded on the first start page of the program. THIS IS A DAMN BETA FOLKS - THE final version HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED!!! Don't install this and then come complain that something doesn't work. This is still BETA!!

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juanito1968

Reviewing 5.0 (Jun 19, 2011)

4 all of user stating FX 5 Final is a fake; u r kindly invited 2 ck out ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/5.0/win32

Choose the language u do prefere n u'll get the final FX 5 release.

That's all up 2 u folks.

Cheers.
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Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v5.0 on Jun 19, 2011

RE: claims of fake or beta...
I unpacked this file to one folder and Firefox Setup 5.0b7.exe to another folder and used Freecommander's (Synchronize folders) and found significant changes with newer dates. This is, imho, very genuine and I appreciate it being available here.

My review:
Wow this is a major improvement over Mozilla Firefox (v4) for Windows

I have found functionality for all my add-ons that are currently incomparable with v5 either in the new version or in other add-ons. I have had no lagging or crashing. Seems to load a bit faster than Mozilla Firefox (v3.6) for Windows. Seems to open multiple tabs a bit faster than Mozilla Firefox (v3.6) for Windows
running:
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Build 2600
Service Pack: Service Pack 3
LOL from: File:
Thanks for your interest in Firefox 5

We aren't quite finished qualifying Firefox 5 yet. You should check out the latest Beta.

When we're all done with Firefox 5 it will show up on Firefox.com.

juanito1968

juanito1968 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 19, 2011

2 Trauma Doc:

about:buildconfig
Source

Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/re...elease/rev/7b56ff900c2a
Build platform
target
i686-pc-mingw32
Build tools
Compiler Version Compiler flags
d;D:\mozilla-build\msys\mozilla-build\python25\python2.5.exe -O e;D:\mozilla-build\msys\builds\moz2_slave\rel-rel-w32-bld\build\build\cl.py cl 14.00.50727.762 -TC -nologo -W3 -Gy -Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Zi -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -GL -wd4624 -wd4952 -O1
d;D:\mozilla-build\msys\mozilla-build\python25\python2.5.exe -O e;D:\mozilla-build\msys\builds\moz2_slave\rel-rel-w32-bld\build\build\cl.py cl 14.00.50727.762 -GR- -TP -nologo -Zc:wchar_t- -W3 -Gy -Fdgenerated.pdb -wd4800 -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Zi -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -GL -wd4624 -wd4952 -O1
Configure arguments

--enable-application=browser --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update-packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-tests --enable-official-branding

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darrylp

darrylp reviewed v5.0 on Jun 19, 2011

Cannot believe that the day after Adobe release an Acrobat update which finally integrates Acrobat X into Firefox 4, Firefox 5 is released and Acrobat X is no longer compatible!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v5.0 on Jun 19, 2011

Works just sparkling fine on my notebook.

hugh750

hugh750 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 19, 2011

stay away from firefox 5 beta
i tried it on my laptop it has windows xp home edition on it and every time i rebooted it i would lose my desktop, to get it back i would have to close my laptop to put it into sleep mode then log back in.
after i uninstalled firefox i was able to get into my desktop

Juhandra

Juhandra reviewed v5.0 on Jun 19, 2011

If firefox loses its userbase, it's because of FAKE finals you jacks spread.

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

Betanews, GET YOUR RELEASES RIGHT!

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/5.0/win32/en-US/index.html

Please note that this link says:

"hanks for your interest in Firefox 5
We aren't quite finished qualifying Firefox 5 yet. You should check out the latest Beta.

When we're all done with Firefox 5 it will show up on Firefox.com."

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

Simply outstanding. Very fast and better than the competition. I'm certain that within a couple of years, Firefox will blow away the competition hands down. It's the way of the future!

reviewer

reviewer reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

bruno70, they perhaps they could have worded the title better.
as say
Mozilla Firefox (v5) 5.0 for Windows

They were obviously referring to Firefox 5.0 and not Windows 5.0.

Oh and Firefox 5.0 is not officially as Mozilla cannot really block the ftp.mozilla.org like thy can with releases.mozilla.org and the release can still be pulled before the release date of June 21 as pulled releases before release has happened before.

http://releases.mozilla....rg/firefox/releases/5.0/
Thanks for your interest in Firefox 5

We aren't quite finished qualifying Firefox 5 yet. You should check out the latest Beta.

When we're all done with Firefox 5 it will show up on Firefox.com.

New Doraemon

New Doraemon reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

To traumadoc: I can't believe that you're so blind. Firefox states that it's a beta because it's a WEBSITE link. It still loads the beta page of their website but that doesn't mean that the application is actually a beta. Probably they'll update the link when the release is offcial so you will install the same EXE file and NOT show that it's a beta. Also, there's no feedback button in the browser, so...

JethroB

JethroB reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

v.5.0 18-Jun-2011
Add me to the list upset by the lack of BETA identification

Bart Welson

Bart Welson reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

1 star for being lamejacks spreading beta products labeled as finals in your sruggle with MajorGeeks for being the biggest crapsite in file spreading.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

It hosed my AVG Link Scanner and KIS virtual keyboard. Mozilla aught not bandy words about like "Final". If it's the "Final Beta" then they should say Final "Beta". Whers are the "Site Favicons", and if Firefox "Final Beta" integrates so "elegantly" with "Windows" antivirus software, then again, why is it incompatible with AVG and KIS, or does Mozilla mean "Windows" as in "Windows Security Essentials", and not security software running on "Windows"? Arrgh, Avast ye scallywags!

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

I'm still not able to get past losing the Status bar, and not all my plugins / addons / extensions work with anything past 3.6.x

I'm not sure that version 3.6.x won't be sufficient for some time to come. I still like the thing better than Chrome, but the more Firefox starts working and looking like Chrome, the more reason I have to just switch all the way over to Chrome.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

They warn people that 5.0 will break some websites' functionality and it does.

TROLL

TROLL reviewed v5.0 on Jun 18, 2011

Come on put download links. Not just fake.
http://fileforum.betanew...refox%20Setup%205.0.exe

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v5.0 on Jun 17, 2011

This build works fine for me.
And I have heard enough from people talking about Windows 5.
Come on people get a grip on your brain.
It's just how it's worded in the description, get over it already.

June 20 at 11:09 PM eastern time
Download link on this site pops up a window that says this. 550 Permission denied. I tried several times with different browsers.
Also after installing (fresh install not upgrading) And after a restart. I have some troubles with flash presentations not loading.

mgsetzer

mgsetzer reviewed v5.0 on Jun 17, 2011

@anon2402 You're probably joking... this isn't for the mysterious windows '5'... windows 7 is just fine.

Pkshadow

Pkshadow reviewed v5.0 on Jun 17, 2011

Ok, my fault here, sorry forgot that Betanews & others get the final release URL before they/Mozilla changes the install restart splash page.

Have deleted the post I had up saying splash screen tells me this is a Beta release.

eMbAh

eMbAh reviewed v5.0 Beta 7 on Jun 16, 2011

What is the reason to use this over Aurora?

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v5.0 Beta 6 on Jun 15, 2011

Here's a plus for Major Geek's site. They put the program out there and they omit the comment boxes.
I get the impression you people have no idea what you're saying, and have too much time to say it.

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v5.0 Beta 6 on Jun 15, 2011

Against my usual better judgement.. (:) )
I started my current version with : firefox -p
and made a new profile and took the checkmark out of the Don't Show on Startup box.

Then I chose a Custom Install option and renamed the install folder to Mozilla Firefox5 to keep my working version working.
I copied my working profile with its addons to the new profile folder, and when I started up version 5, it installed all but 3 of my addons !
It works fine apparently, I'm rather impressed .

The functionality and look are about the same as my 3.5.19 version, also, and with a little Customizing the placement on the toolbars, is virtually the same.

anon2402

anon2402 reviewed v5.0 Beta 6 on Jun 15, 2011

it's for Windows 5.0. Too bad. I wanted to upgrade, I have windows 7. Mozilla should consider who they are developing for. Windows 5.0 is not too widely used..

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v5.0 Beta 6 on Jun 15, 2011

My preferred browsers are Chrome & Opera with no extensions as any extension(s) will slow your browser down. I recently bought 'Ad Muncher' so I don't need browser ad blockers anymore.I had another play with Firefox & to perfectly be honest it's OK.

FF isn't the way I like a browser to be, but out of the most popular browsers out there now there isn't a bad one & I think its now down to personal preference. Whatever floats your boat!

Have I changed my mind? - Yes, it seems so.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v6.0 Alpha 2 (Nightly Build) on Jun 11, 2011

mark my words
soon chrome will be the most used browser
I still like ff

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v6.0 Alpha 2 (Nightly Build) on Jun 10, 2011

Took back the negative review as it's an OK browser I prefer Opera & Chrome. But I'm not going to pull FF down just because 2 idiots pull Chrome down. I've used it extensively & I think all 3 browsers are down to personal preferences.

pjafrombbay

pjafrombbay reviewed v4.0.1 on Jun 3, 2011

It pains me to say this but I agree with SlapShot. I have been a loyal Firefox user ever since it was released. However it has become almost unusable (on Windows 7 Home Pro). Its got nothing to do with extensions or memory leeks or whatever, it just seems to be lousy code.

Well I've made the switch to Google Chrome (on both PC's) and I can see no reason to return. Chrome is still not as good as Firefox was when it was at its best.

Somehow I feel very sad, like an old friend dying.

Addendum: I've just installed Firefox 5 Beta 3 and it seems to be running much better than the stable version 4. Lets hope it continues to do so.

Regards,
Peter

tontito

tontito reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 2, 2011

This is soo much less pain in the a** then IE9.

Love it

butthead

butthead reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 2, 2011

@Input Overload: how about stopping the trolling? Mozilla is finally on track with quicker release cycles. The most trustworthy free software browser, 5 stars.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 1, 2011

Clunky garbage, not a patch on Chrome or Opera. Losing market share as Firefox can't find which direction to go in. Many 'new'' features are either 'borrowed' from Chrome or Opera.

It had its day as every dog has, but with FF this was yesterday.

djb247365 - 'It may not be as quick as Chrome'. You are dead right there.

@ Butthead, those are my opinions using several browsers with my work & based on empirical evidence & not dreamed up but those who never even install software they 'review'. if you don't like my opinions when they conflict with your narrow minded fixed herd like outlook - Tough, your options are limited.

Now go and bugger off as I will write a review I bloody well consider to be honest & truthful & my opinion, just as you wrote your misguided opinion.

Learn to live with the fact it's OK to disagree with others, it killing them that's wrong.

I stand by my review. how you tried all the main browsers very recently? - I have!

reviewer

reviewer reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 1, 2011

bruno70, not a fake as perhaps they could have worded the title better.
Either
Mozilla Firefox (v5) for Windows, Firefox 5.0 Beta 3
or better
Mozilla Firefox (v5) 5.0 Beta 3 for Windows.

djb247365

djb247365 reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 1, 2011

Say what you want about Firefox, for me, it's a really complete and functional browser. There's some pretty nice features and lots of customization options with all the different extensions and themes. It may not be as quick as Chrome, but it's fast enough to get through my daily browsing, so definitely no complaints there at all.

So far, so good with this Beta 3 version. I've actually tried the Aurora (6.0) and Nightly (7.0) builds as well and they worked just as good without any problems. I would stay away from 64-bit builds though, because I tried those too and they weren't too stable for my liking.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 1, 2011

Windows 5 = XP
parrots

alshawwa

alshawwa reviewed v5.0 Beta 3 on Jun 1, 2011

Phat Esther

Reviewing 5.0 Beta 3 (Jun 1, 2011)

Windows 5 = XP
parrots

windows 5 is not xp parrot , windows 5 is 2000 , windows 5.1 is xp :)
but the post has nothing to do with windows 5 it didnt mention windows for unless if you dont have common sense reading it , firefox v5 for windows version 5 beta3 , so if opera v11 for windows version 11.1 means that there is windows 11.1 BH

reviewer

reviewer reviewed v7.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 30, 2011

Just so people know, This is NOT even close to being a actual 7.0 release as it is just a Nightly build that get updates each day (sometime unstable depending on checkins that day), something a real release does not get (check for updates in "Help->About Nightly" to see what I mean). These nightlies can have problems as for example there was a brief patch in May28 build that was later backed out but caused problems for user who used the May.28 build as many Extensions did not work properly that day. I ended up reverting to May27 nightly for a couple days in order to use my extensions.

This is why the Trunk and branch nightlies were using codenames before (Namoroka for 3.0.*, Shiroteko for 3.5.* branch nightlies for example) as it helped greatly in keeping people (and websites like this one) from jumping to conclusion that these are stable build material when it may not even remotely be. Mozilla for some reason reverted this practice during development of Firefox 4.0 and now sites like these are jumping the gun.

The new process of development is a bit different and faster now.

Originally Fx 5.0 was on Aurora branch and Fx 6.0 was on Nightly. Then Fx 5.0 was recently moved to Beta channel and the Fx 6.0 was moved to Aurora while the (potentially unstable) Nightly (which this is) continued as Fx 7.0 currently.

If any of you are serious about testing these current Nighty builds then see forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23

reviewer

reviewer reviewed v6.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 30, 2011

StormChild, this was NOT a 6.0 release as it does not exist and this was just a nightly build in the Nightly directory when it was posted then. It does not exist now as the 6.0 moved to the Aurora channel while the 5.0 went from Aurora channel to Beta channel.

This was just a classic case of "jumping the gun" where the poster of this so called 6.0a1 upon seeing a newer version number and posting it hoping to be seen as the first. These nightlies test builds used to use their codenames so as to prevent this misunderstanding but Mozilla decided to revert this practice as of during the then 4.0 development.

The only release newer then 4.0.* right now is the 5.0b3 for beta testing.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 28, 2011

Fact \noun \?fakt
1. knowledge or information based on real occurrences
2. a piece of information presented as having objective reality

So how pray tell Overboard is it a fact when the facts of independent tests have Opera, Chrome and even Safari scoring better?

It doesn't seem to matter what iteration, be it v4, 5, 6 or 7(they're all the same) they all perform adequately but clearly not better than the competition. It's slower, less functional and it still uses more memory having multiple processes running.

If there weren't better alternatives available then this would be a 3 at best. Considering it steals ideas from the others and NEEDS a dedicated user base to create functionality that is standard in some competitors.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v7.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 27, 2011

It simply does not perform as well as Opera, Chrome and even Safari (for windows, if you can believe that).

Version numbers aside, this is the same ol' lemon.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v7.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 27, 2011

What the H is with the freaky numbering system? First Ubuntu turns to crap, now FF is going strange? Pretty soon I'll have to start using Win7 to get away from all the nonsense, thats ironic.

djb247365

djb247365 reviewed v7.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 27, 2011

Actually 7.0 is working great for me, no issues and it's quick enough to get my work done. The only issue I have, is the Xmarks extension not synchronizing as it should. That will probably be fixed when that extension gets it's next update. Other than that, my other add-ons work great and I have no problem using this 7.0 Alpha build. Mozilla should've never gone the route of Google, in releasing major browser versions every few weeks. That's rather ridiculous. Every major version should have major changes. There are no major changes here, only minor, which is why I still consider this the same as Firefox 4

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v7.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 27, 2011

Looks like they are trying to catch Chrome up with versions. I wonder if those who complained about Chrome versions do the same with Fireflop?

I have really gone off Fireflop, you might as well use IE9.I see they keep stealing ideas off Chrome & Opera.

Clunky & slow.

alcaholjunkie

alcaholjunkie reviewed v7.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 27, 2011

Not had many problems with nightlies, always use them. ^_^

bruno, the "7.0 alpha 1" is the FireFox version number, not windows version number.. -_-

Frazzled

Frazzled reviewed v3.5.16 on May 24, 2011

Firefox 4.0 Has worked pretty good, except that they didn't bring forward from 3.5 the 'STOP' or the (X) Button ! I find this quite annoying when the odd web sight loads offering to scan your computer for you and you decide to use the Task manager to close Firefox ,then you restart Firefox And Firefox 4.0 Reloads the Same problematic page and There is NO 'Stop' in 4.0 it makes for an interesting 20 minutes trying to get Firefox 4.0 back going again! I'm going to see if I can get back to Firefox 3.5 without loosing everything!?

Output Overboard

Output Overboard reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2011

The best - FACT! Getting better day by day.
Maybe too complicated for 51 year old effete British punks.

StormChild

StormChild reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2011

bruno70: you have proven your unworthiness. Reviewing without understanding is dangerous... Firefox is the best, so rate it about its usability and functions, and not about your misunderstanding!!

StormChild

StormChild reviewed v6.0 Alpha 1 (Nightly Build) on May 23, 2011

bruno70: you're not too clever, eh? You wrote a review just to prove you're not understanding this is Mozilla Firefox v6.0. And you have rated it like sh*t, dumb*ss!

linjinhuan

linjinhuan reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 23, 2011

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SlapShot

SlapShot reviewed v4.0.1 on May 22, 2011

FIrefox has become a complete disaster. Shame on Mozilla for releasing this

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v4.0.1 on May 21, 2011

I understand people's frustration, but overall it's a very good Internet Browser for Windows 7 and a definite improvement over version 4.0. I've tried them all, but ultimately I keep coming back to Firefox. Internet Explorer 9 is still slow, Opera 10 doesn't have many add-ons and Google Chrome (My 2nd Choice) lacks customization and doesn't have a working Print Preview feature or a NoScript equivalent.

I suppose I have to forgive the fact that they stole most of the GUI design from Opera and it's not quite as fast or crash proof as Google Chrome. It's strength has to be that it's reasonably fast, very customizable and has many excellent add-ons (NoScript is my favorite). As long as it keeps improving and they don't rush it to market like last time, I'll continue using it. If not then I'll keep trying alternatives until something better comes along.

SteveJohnSteele

SteveJohnSteele reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 21, 2011

Wow is this fast :-)

Compared to FF4 - FF5 (Aurora) feel 15-20% faster.

Most noticeable speed improvements in switching tabs, forward and backwards, scroll page.

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 21, 2011

@bruno70

is actually lying:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/5.0b2/

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 21, 2011

Better than ever! Even Chrome!

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v5.0 Beta 2 on May 21, 2011

Lost thier way & can't find the way home. Very disappointing, no wonder people are moving to Chrome in droves this is to frankly a piece of junk. No stars.

carlvui

carlvui reviewed v4.0.1 on May 17, 2011

It seems the new Mozilla development project is the typical example of the "trust in the mechanism" .
Careerists, aggressive, unscrupulous, overly self confident managers make business plans and they plow through users, critics and even their own developers.

The old saying haunts: " to make something good, first everything must be battered down."
They grew ignorant and arrogant, flexing muscles until the word Firefox drops out the dictionaries. It won't happen in a day but surely will, I think.
Very good, go on Mozilla and we will see. You are full of it.
I regret I ever used your browser.

fraksion

fraksion reviewed v4.0.1 on May 12, 2011

Mozilla isn't even considering all the negative reviews users give on its forum. They just lock the threads now like here: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/797148

Users complain because FF4 hangs, crashes and lags to typing or actions. It feeds on RAM, over 1 gb in the same PC where 3.6 works flawlessly. I could even accept that I'm on 6gb, but it crashes for no reason at all. And while with the interface changes ppl may become used to (personally I don't care because I use gestures) the browser perfomance has gone downhill. Mozilla get your s*** together, you are turning ppl away.

nilst2006

nilst2006 reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 6, 2011

Too resourcehungry ! Still don't respect if You tell it not to send crashreports, it still nag You about it if it crashes. It doesn't remember where You downloaded pics last time (if You clean all history). Have nagged Mozilla about it, they do nothing. Have asked them to make a lite version. They do nothing.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 6, 2011

I find 5 to be faster than 4 in startup and page rendering.
Almost twice as fast as Opera 11.10

Guess it depends on your OS and computer.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 5, 2011

It may look like Opera and mimic aspects of Chrome but it sure doesn't perform like either.

Still slow and still resource hungry. I don't notice any improvements in this version from the last and the last version ranked only slightly ahead of IE9 in most independent test. That puts it behind Safari and well behind Opera and Chrome.

Not even the rhetoric of zealous fans will save this browser if this is how it is going to progress.

3 stars but I'm docking it one for having multiple processes running

DaleScience

DaleScience reviewed v4.0.1 on May 5, 2011

Firefox 4.00 and 4.0.1 for WIN NT STILL has SERIOUS problem:
HANGS the Browser window until restarted

when any applic such as Mail executes an Add or Insert File Attachment
immediately produces error disabling window (inaccessible 'beeps' until restart..

"Filepicker was unexpectedly closed by Windows"

Note that using Internet Explorer v9 does not experience this problem

Please FIX or I need to revert to V3.15 as I insert and attach files daily so now I need to run two Browsers since I installed firefox V4

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 5, 2011

Briefly tried it and it seems to work okay so far. Version numbers, in the past, have been mainly a reflection of difference of browser engine. Barely in beta stage at this point ... I believe it states that when you start it up ... so it is basically in an Alpha stage for now and they are requesting some useful feedback on some new features one of which is called channel switching to and from Aurora/Beta.

update: wow it does use a lot of memory just for sitting there without doing anything except waiting for me after I start it up and let it sit for an hour or so.

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

"Gets to look more like Opera all the time." Fixed.

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

Version 5??? WTF?

some guy

some guy reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

wow 4 & 5 have a complete GUI copy of Opera but other then that still a great browser

Kimoeagle

Kimoeagle reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

I find it annoying to read of those who are expressing displeasure at how Mozilla chooses to number their versions of Firefox. What difference does it make??!! The important thing is: DOES IT WORK??!! And, does it work well?? All of the browsers have come a l-o-n-g way from Kaleidoscope, and we have not had to pay for the countless hours of development that went in to the products. Get a grip, WebWarp. Get a grip, Aegis69. Focus on what is truly important!!! I have been trying Aurora for several weeks now, and am VERY impressed. I trust that Firefox V5 will be the same - if not better- browser.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

@Aegis69
Please explain the problem in a rapid version numbering, I cannot see the problem, its a decision made for a reason (probatly the same as chrome's).
And just to correct you, the Mozilla Foundation is not a company ...

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

Gets to look more like Chrome all the time.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v5.0 Beta 1 on May 4, 2011

Ok what the hell are these idiots doing? If its an incremental version, like 4.2 or even 4.5, fine name it as such. WHAT IS THE POINT of raising the full version number every three weeks now??? Who is running that damn idiot company???

craigun

craigun reviewed v4.0.1 on May 2, 2011

Best version of FF yet, and it is fast!

Hergest

Hergest reviewed v4.0.1 on May 2, 2011

Hate the new interface. I gather it can be tweaked to make it look normal again, but why is it so hard to do? I need several add-ons to achieve it.

Love FF3; sticking with that.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v4.0.1 on May 2, 2011

Despite the outright blatant lies by some here, Firefox is NOT slow. In fact I would say its faster than Chrome. Just the other day I noticed a web page that had a lot of graphics on it, and Chrome was jerky scrolling, yet I tried Firefox on that exact same page, and it was as smooth as could be. (I was only using Chrome to see what was improved on it).

Chrome is so lame, the last version I tried, still didn't have the basic ability to print preview a page. That is just pathetic.

grizzlyadams

grizzlyadams reviewed v4.0.1 on May 2, 2011

Their big mistake was changing stuff that didnt need changed, and ignoring all the things that DID. Wheres the ability to disable those retarded hotkeys that F up everything you typed?? Why is everybody copying Chrome, the browser that does nothing except spy on you?? Stupid, stupid Mozilla.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v4.0.1 on May 2, 2011

Clunky, slow, every dog has it's day and FF has been overtaken in usability by Chrome. I removed this piece of junk & now use Chrome & Opera both superb.

More like Fireflop. Total bloated crapware, if you have a brain avoid it.

BTW It is, try it slow. try it on a fast 100 MegBit connection, then try Chrome, that's a proper test.

FF = Crapware at it's very worst.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v4.0.1 on May 2, 2011

For those complete morons complaining how the addons no longer work, hey have you tried google?

Idiots.

https://addons.mozilla.o...-compatibility-reporter/

mytake4this

mytake4this reviewed v4.0 on Mar 27, 2011

-Update-
Changing the rating up to 5 from 4. Apparently I was wrong about the page rendering. I had the NoSquint add-on set to change both font and whole page to say 120% which is wrong. Reset it to font (text) to 100% then ZOOM both Text and Page to ___% which for me most pages at 145% look fine and it works just fine. I was getting an improper text alignment and tried the Disable NoSquint and tested the page rendering and it sill looked off. Well, it likely had recalled the settings in Firefox, so my re-test was in error. Sorry Firefox Mozilla team, as I dead wrong, and the FF4 is rendering correctly set as from when downloaded, or using NoSquint set the way I just described above.

All said and done, I think the new Chrome10 is still going to be tough competition for Firefox. I have several add-ons making FF4 as good, if not a better choice, but many people never tweak a browser, so Chrome may be a better pick for them. I altered the toolbar setup and now after using just a row for bookmarks and one for tabs, have something as compact as Chrome -- will other people do this? Once tweaked, with wonderful add-ons, I am not 100% happy with Firefox 4.

Plumber

Plumber reviewed v4.0 on Mar 25, 2011

I made the mistake of updating from Fx 3.6 to Fx 4.0. I hate it.

Speed improvements? Where? I don't notice page loading having improved. I do notice that whenever I open a menu in my bookmarks, the saved favicons get loaded one-by-one, which never happened with 3.6. The icons slowly bleed into view. It's annoying. I don't see a faster startup speed. I do see plugin-container.exe devouring CPU, same as always.

The theme I used with 3.6 no longer works. I'm not a fan of the Fx 4.0 default theme, especially since it doesn't work well with my preferred Tab Mix Plus tab color setup.

I use lots of extensions. Literally 80% of them stopped working with Fx 4.0. This is so fun to deal with every time I install a major update. No, seriously, I love it.

I also "love" how I no longer have a status bar. I didn't have anything of value there, really! Those 6 extensions I had that used the status bar--BAH!--who needed them? Away with Fire.fm, NetVideoHunter, and the rest. The new "Add-on Bar"? Not the same.

Lost extensions. No improvements. Crap interface. Time to look for an alternative.

carlvui

carlvui reviewed v4.0 on Mar 24, 2011

I think Mozilla just managed to kill themselves with the release of v4.
Why an earth did they have to do this after a successful march ahead with v3?

The best thing in FF3 was, that it was different from the others.
Now they copy Chrome, FF4 has become Chrome.
If so, then let it be Chrome.

FF4 is buggy, slow and needs 512MB of RAM and 200MB of hard drive space.
Chrome is faster, not that buggy and needs 128 MB of RAM and 100 Mb of free disk space.
Easy to make decision which one will be installed on my PC.
Instead of upgrading to FFv4 I will install Chrome.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v4.0 on Mar 24, 2011

was working fine for a day or so..then a crash in file picker dialog box..i prefer Opera, its quicker.

Hall9000

Hall9000 reviewed v4.0 on Mar 24, 2011

Worked great for a day. Now not only crashes but freezes to hell. Where is the damn zero rating! Before you asked, I'm not the only one having this problem.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v4.0 on Mar 23, 2011

extension hell, going back to 3.6.
extensions are what make ff, non compatable extensions should disabled with update to v4, i dont have time to go through 30 extensions to find out which one broke ffv4. hope fully by ffv4.1 extensions will be updated.

F1Racer

F1Racer reviewed v4.0 on Mar 23, 2011

Great update. Really tidy new look and more room too. Best browser just got better.
Get this and the NoScript and ReadItLater addons and you have a nice setup.

more10s

more10s reviewed v4.0 on Mar 23, 2011

Great browser!
if you experience memory leaks, make sure you don't run Adblock 1.3.3...there is a severe memory leak going on if you use Adblock 1.3.3 with Firefox 4, just google "firefox 4 does not release memory when adblock is enabled".

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v4.0 on Mar 23, 2011

Main thing that bothers me at the moment is its memory usage ... hope a memory leak wasn't reintroduced. When I have 4+ GB of memory on my computer I might not worry about it as much but I have to be careful with my 2 GB.

update: those of you considering leaving 3.6x for this might want to wait because either it or the addons aren't working properly and you're better off staying with something that works well unless you enjoy beta testing.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

No crash issues here (never had any with betas either).

@jeffdavison, try loading in safe mode.

Just super!

Alpha258

Alpha258 reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

Works much better with online apps than Chrome! Speed is about the same with normal web browsing. Awesome!!

jeffdavison

jeffdavison reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

Not ready for final release...Crashes immediately when trying to open. Tried an automatic upgrade from within 3.6.15 and a fresh install after a complete reoval of the old version. Still can't get the dog to bark....stillwon't load and still only shows the crash report. Went back to old version which worked and still works perfectly. V4.0 is still BETA as far as my experience tells me....very low ratring becuase it won't even load and start with out a fatal crash........ on a tangent note, what's taking Minefield so long???????

SoundMix

SoundMix reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

IE9 has MUCH better security and is better in most other areas as well.

westor

westor reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

Good, Firefox 4 is looking very nice!

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

The best browser ever. It's open source compared to Google Chrome spyware and IE 9. My "Google Sharing" extension is broken for now, but like many other extensions and skins, we will have to wait for updates on them.

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v4.0 on Mar 22, 2011

Wouldn't use any other browser.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

As usual, a truly excellent program.

PaulWilliams

PaulWilliams reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

It's an improvement. It does seem faster and more accurate. The color scheme is nice, but nothing special. I can see that they copied the Drop-down Tab at the Top Left from Opera, not very original. Nothing much to dislike about it for me, but not exceptional either. For waiting so many months I expected something more creative. Still Infinitely Better than IE9.

Calc_Yolatuh

Calc_Yolatuh reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

More of the same, ever since 3.0

Plus: Tabs on top, easily discoverable single menu button, better isolation of plugins/extensions. (XP netbook)

Minus: First crash ten minutes after installing (already filed on it), poor download manager, bad CPU usage, awful sync experience, turns out memory and rendering are worse than 3.6 after all.

UPDATE: Downrated to a 1. Many small things are broken, for example Alt key does not summon the menu in Fullscreen mode. More difficult to intentionally open the same tab twice. Awesomebar is worse than ever. Password pop-up is still a password pop-up even if it non-modally obscures content at the top of the page now. Unfortunately it is not possible to disable the tab bar.

NightFright

NightFright reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

Finally, Firefox also catches up with the recently updated Chrome and IE. It's definitely faster than before, by much actually, and gives you much more space for website viewing (just like Chrome already did ages ago).

What I like much about this new version is how addons are handled. While I preferred to keep copies of the addons on my hard drive in case I needed to reinstall, now you just go to the addons tab, type in the name of your addon and you have it right away, no need to browse through the website any more. This is as easy as it can get. Also, the ability to sync settings is a huge help if you are working at more than one workstation throughout the day/week.

I was a little disappointed that the download manager really did not change at all, it is still a separate window popping up when you download something and not as well integrated into the GUI as you have it in Chrome. Still, if you install the "Download Statusbar" addon, you get this problem fixed easily (if it bothers you).

The only REAL bummer is the poor font rendering when using hardware acceleration. While you could turn it off to get back the sharpness you know from 3.6.x releases, you would lose the main advantage of the new version. Actually, IE9 has the same issue since it has something to do with Direct2D. While this problem already got addressed with some recent Windows update, it seemingly didn't help much since it still exists. Something Microsoft has to fix, so you can't blame Mozilla for this.

Max rating for this still. With the font rendering fixed, it will finally be fully enjoyable.

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

It's the final release.

It will be officially announced on March 22.

(Actually RC2 = final)

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

I'm very impressed. Big improvement on v3. On a par or higher with Chrome as far as my somewhat crude speed testing shows. Got FF as default at the moment.
Some nice extensions etc. Maybe a bit high on memory use but as memory is cheap it should not be an issue unless you have an old PC you can't add RAM too but with a little housekeeping it should run fine.

It's got to the point as I see it, Chrome, Firefox & Opera are all decent browsers, all with their strengths & weaknesses. You take your choice.

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

Compensating for the last two negative ratings. If you want 64-bit get Minefield.

Gazer_XXII

Gazer_XXII reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

Yes, there is a 64bit version of Firefox. It's called Minefield.

rjparker1

rjparker1 reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

I like Firefox, however it becomes bloated with all those add-ins.

I switched to chrome. I still have the same amount of add-ins.. But my question is Firefox TRUE 64-bit yet?

Chrome is still 32-bit I know, but if Firefox isn't 64-bit I am not switching. I still try it, but nothing seems to get better..

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

Chrome is a good browser but Firefox is still the best IMO.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v4.0 on Mar 21, 2011

Firefox 4 Final = Firefox 4 RC2 (up to the checksum)
I've always liked Firefox, for sentimental reasons, but as far as my system is concerned, this version 4 is not faster, and when compared to Opera 11 is slow.
The improvements over 3.6 I notice are faster starrtup, much better RAM management, greatly improved GUI, common operation center for extensions, skins, plugins, scripts, userstyles. Not a revolution, but remains Number 1 in terms of privacy and security, should it be a NoScript extension which has no equivalence on other browsers. Hardware acceleration on old systems is not handled to the top, even disabled, on full-screen video here. Version 4.01 is expected soon, hoping issues will be corrected.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 16, 2011

I have a couple of issues with this release.
I have several entries for the plugin-container listed in my task list.
The add on page is really slow and seems to take a lot of resources while it's up.
The one that really bothers me is when I clear history it launches adobe acrobat reader. Then the reader doesn't show up, It just sits in my task list.
Otherwise it's fast and not all that bad looking either.
I do miss seeing the status bar at the bottom.
Because of the issues I have I rate it a 3

mytake4this

mytake4this reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 13, 2011

This is a very good browser. I moved the address bar down to the bottom, now called an add-ons bar and have more space, with almost as much window room as Chrome. That is almost. Since Chrome now has most of the extensions I do need, and is simply faster and leaner, with more window space, I have moved it to the top of my list, and use FF4 less now. Sure, FF still has more extensions, which is a good thing, and SeaMonkey even has email app included, but Chrome is not simply slicker. I found an extension for adding double click to close a tab, a neat little reminder add-on, AdBlock, a Yahoo mail watcher, so I am pretty much happy with Chrome now. I recalls the site settings for last size used, is real fast to start-up, and is solid - no crashing.

When not using Chrome, FF4 is a great second choice now. And SeaMonkey is nifty, but I am running T-Bird with Lightning so....

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 11, 2011

Complaints about it not being at the top tier as far as performance are valid, even if I think they're occasionally misguided (prioritizing synthetic benchmark performance over all other considerations), but I honestly don't get the complaints about Mozilla "not innovating". The tab grouping, sync, and addon subsystem all have clear advantages over the competition and the features often represent industry firsts.

I've been using Firefox 4 as my main browser since beta 4, and while it was really rough initially (see previous review), I'm very happy with the way it's turned out.

Performance, while not the best, is more than adequate. Multi-tab resource usage is among the best available. It's second to none in features and extensibility with an addon architecture more powerful than any of the other browsers out there.

The only thing still missing is sandboxed tabs processes. Combine this feature with NoScript and something like Web Of Trust and you have a level of security that even Chrome can't touch. Chrome's "NotScripts" is decent, but it's not as mature or comprehensive as NoScript simply because Chrome's addon subsystem isn't as powerful and doesn't allow some of the more fundamental security measures available under the Firefox implementation.

Firefox is my main browser and Chrome is a backup that I use a couple of times a week as a browser for visiting guests and for (rare) really performance-intensive web applications. I like them both, but Firefox is still the king as far as I'm concerned.

I actually like Chrome a LOT, but there are four big reasons why Firefox remains my main browser:

1. Tab Syncing
2. NoScript
3. VideoDownloadHelper
4. DownThemAll

No amount of extensions I can currently install for any other browser can replicate the functionality they offer.

Some people (who are usually a bit odd) take the whole "browser war" personally, and turn reviews into part of their little crusade. It's easy to pick these people out, and it's easy to tell that they're rarely worth listening to.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

Every dog has it's day & FF was at the top but no longer. To be honest after actually installing FF again (A rare thing on this site to actually 'INSTALL' a program you review) it's a piece of junk. Ugly, clunky, IE8/9 'gasp' is a better choice.

I use Opera/Chrome devs & I've had all three running this week, yes FF4 as well. Firefox was good but time moves on, & time has left version 3 & 4 well & truly behind.

Unless you like a plethora of memory hogging, browser slowing crappy extensions, which moronic cretins think makes them 'Power Users'. Some hope!

This time next year I predict Chrome will be the most used browser, maybe behind the herd instinct of IE users who don't know how to change their browser if given a bar of gold.

I work in an interesting facet of IT & see the changes from the inside out..

Prospero424, likes to hear himself talk but knows bugger all.

asaenz, What you running a 286?

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

I'm using 4.0b13pre, as well as the new RC on Win7 64-bit without problem. Chrome is slightly faster, but (the gap (particularly for javascript) is closing fast. Both chrome and ff have made major strides for non-IE browsers. I use both.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5.16 on Mar 10, 2011

NOD32...
Get a Avira or at least Avast...

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

5/5
But could start faster, especially on cold startup

Also Opera ripped menu from Mozilla, not Mozilla from Opera.

asaenz

asaenz reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

Been using FF for years and don't have any plans of changing soon but I do have other browsers on my desktop in case I need them including a version of Chrome and Opera. If every program I had running used 200k to 400k I would soon run out of memory and be using a rather sluggish computer which shouldn't be the case with modern computers. Sometimes program code is poorly written with loss of efficient logic, poor use of routines, and/or a bad choice of compiler so there is room for improvement once the basic program is debugged and operating as intended. Examples that comes to mind are utorrent and CIS that use memory efficiently and I'm inclined to use them over others and my computer runs fast and with "snap" because the memory isn't congested.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

My review was actually of this release so my comments remain the same but I always laugh when I see pompous remarks like d***justice's that never fail to show who the real moron's are. and d***, you're(not your) the moron

d***justice
Reviewing 4.0 RC1 (Mar 10, 2011)

also this is 2011. if your still complaining about a computer program using too much memory your a moron

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

Blazingly fast, a must upgrade for all 3.x users.

OAKsider

OAKsider reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

Still the best browser with the best add-ons and a damn fine interface. I don't know why people mind all the betas, it is exciting to see the progress with each release, as long as there aren't any show-stopping bugs (I didn't notice any) and add-on developers can keep pace. On memory use, I trust the Mozilla team and, as said, there's typically plenty of RAM to spare these days.

Example of Firefox excellence (my browser right now). Stratiform, Omnibar, Barlesque, Tabs in Title Bar (style or userChrome mod), etc. http://i.imgur.com/SiUij.png

dickjustice

dickjustice reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

love firefox but have found it too slow on certian websites that other browsers load faster and i don't know what people do with there PC when they have flash crashing on firefox.

also this is 2011. if your still complaining about a computer program using too much memory your a moron

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

Firefox is no longer just a browser, it's a life style, I love it and can't even imagine using something else, the best browser EVER.
I just hate how much memory it uses.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

This browser is a joke, and not a funny one! Whoever wrote this should report to the rack.

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v4.0 RC1 on Mar 10, 2011

My favorite browser!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Mar 10, 2011

Uses more memory than Chrome and Opera(which is using too much lately).
Renders slower than all the other browsers.
Has a new process(plugin-container) that runs along side it.
Nice interface though it's a rip of Opera.
Has a nice new status bar though it's a rip of Chrome

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v3.6.14 on Mar 4, 2011

This browser with a series of good, established plugins / addons gives a pretty solid browsing experience. Not perfect, and I'm not happy with some of the changes they are forcing into the 4.x series, but for now 3.x is doing ok.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.14 on Mar 3, 2011

I haven't had FF on this PC for a while so to be fair I duly downloaded it, added Fasterfox, a few themes, and Adblock+.

I can understand why others like it but to me it seems clunky & ugly compared to the two browsers I usually use, Opera & Chrome.

Fortunately we are all different & FF was as fast as anything I've used, so I think it's getting down to personal preferences with the top browsers. I removed FF & am sticking to the browsers I have on. Nothing wrong with FF though!

kstev99

kstev99 reviewed v3.6.14 on Mar 2, 2011

The best, most customizable browser ever!

Although I am now using Version 4 Beta 12.

It's close enough to final version to be very stable and adds some nice features. Tried Google Chrome at work, hated it. Besides there are trust issues with a browser from a company that relies on advertising revenue and tries to sneak a toolbar into nearly every shareware/freeware installation.

butthead

butthead reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Mar 2, 2011

Slavic:

1. Tabs on top, page loading indicator, single button system menu, Panorama, Sync are not examples of Chrome copying, but Opera copying and Panorama is not copying anyone, it is a completely new approach.
2 Add-ons setup without restart are available in Firefox 4 if the extension is written with Jetpack. The reason Chrome and Opera does not require restart is because their extensions are of simpler type.
3. Acid3 is by no means a benchmark how the browser will fare in rendering real web pages, also read: http://limi.net/articles/firefox-acid3

SineWave

SineWave reviewed v3.6.14 on Mar 1, 2011

The only thing that bothers me in FF, and it's quite specific so not really a shortcoming for just like 99% of the people, is that it doesn't show some pictures [buttons, backgrounds... I don't mean pOrn.. it shows it alright :)] when I change the colours to my preference - white letters on black background. It only started to happen since v3.6 I think, but I'm not sure.

Regarding v3.6.14 in general, I can swear I experienced some nice speedups, again in everything from startup time to rendering.

I also install FF without even thinking to all of my clients and nobody complained about it, ever. The only problem is - some sites still need IE to use them properly, but in my view - that's their problem and they should recompile their s***ty HTML code for FireFox compatibility. I mean, everybody knows that MS is still trying to push their own version of HTML... so they could have monopoly, of course, what else...

Everybody is pursuing monopoly and proprietary formats of all kinds, just to try to squeeze out every last cent out of poor people in the end.

Anyway, FireFox and a few essential plugins rule. There's no need pondering much about it. I only wish they invest more time into smashing all the bugs and into optimising the code as much as possible. It still consumes too much memory in my opinion. Way too much. It can't work on an older PC with 128 MB RAM [for example] properly. Why using so much memory for a few pages [on tabs]... beats me.

Cheers!

roj

roj reviewed v3.6.14 on Mar 1, 2011

While it on occasion can be glitchy and the plugin architecture is unsustainable from a corporate point of view, this remains my personal preference and the best pick for an enthusiast who loves configurability and privacy. It's biggest problem is also its greatest asset: plugins. They make an otherwise lacklustre browser a worthwhile experience.

FIVE stars.

ukexpat

ukexpat reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Mar 1, 2011

@tickleonthetum

You can move the tabs below the menu bar and toolbars

tickleonthetum

tickleonthetum reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Mar 1, 2011

This new version of Firefox is shaping up nicely. Unlike others, I don't like the new interface. I prefer my menus at the top, then a toolbar, then the tabs, and finally a fixed status bar at the bottom. However, I'm sure the extension makers will have one to put it all back where it belongs!

For a beta this is pretty good, there are the odd crashes, and memory usage is a bit high, but the days of programs running in KB of memory are long gone and as we demand more and more features and support so the programs will get bigger.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Feb 28, 2011

68MB here. Seems fairly stable. Not perfect on html5, but that's a working draft according to the w3c. Follow this link to see how many hard blockers are left.

http://canweshipyet.com/

lang999

lang999 reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Feb 28, 2011

features from old browser is removed.
And its not that fast compared to IE9 beta.

Slavic

Slavic reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Feb 28, 2011

I am glad that Firefox developers eventually were able to re-invent the Chrome interface, for instance, I was waiting for the right place of URL link preview since beta 6 (about half of year!). Tabs on top, page loading indicator, single button system menu, Panorama, Sync are another examples of good Chrome re-invention. I only can wish developers to discover the process-per-tab feature, add-ons setup without restart and solve the last 3 tests of Acid3... Seriously, better late than never, but it's too late for me, I switched to Chome some months ago :(

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Feb 28, 2011

No memory problems here (uses much less than Chrome).

Running just fine.

sn0wy82

sn0wy82 reviewed v4.0 Beta 12 on Feb 28, 2011

Excellent browser- flash seems to crash less and all my add-ons (10+) seem to now be compatible.Also had no issues with memory leaks which proved an issue with previous beta builds. Cant wait for the final release!

HeilNizar

HeilNizar reviewed v4.0 Beta 11 on Feb 21, 2011

OMG, its memory hungry, 200 - 300 MB???? WTF

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v4.0 Beta 11 on Feb 9, 2011

After using Chrome for a long time, I noticed that on my three computers Chrome began to slow down and render pages slowly, after working perfectly for a long period. So, I tried FF 4.10 and now FF 4.11. Needless to say I'm very pleased with performance and extensions. I also downloaded the latest Chrome 10 beta and it's as bad as it was before, but not quite as good as FF. Hats off to the folks at Mozilla, they've done a good job and I assume are making a strong comeback. I must admit though I miss Chrome when it was working like a finely tuned engine.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v4.0 Beta 11 on Feb 8, 2011

An excellent browser as always, and version 4 seems to be coming along very nicely. A number of addons are already compatible, and more should be updated as the release draws nearer.

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v4.0 Beta 11 on Feb 8, 2011

Beta 11?
Really?

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v4.0 Beta 11 on Feb 8, 2011

Seems the same as beta 10. I'm sticking with Firefox 3 as long as I can.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 26, 2011

Have used the betas for a while, have had some rendering problems on certain sites, but not a huge deal. Also had a few extensions that were inoperable, I can get that too. Has been in beta stage for a long time, thought it would have gone to final release. Am starting to wonder about Firefox......

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 26, 2011

How the mighty have fallen. Was it really necessary for them to blatantly copy Opera's interface? They should have concentrated on fixing the memory issues and performance instead of trying to be a UI copycat, Firefox 3 had a good interface already but now it's ruined.

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 25, 2011

Not a bad browser but there is not enough here for me to switch from Google Chrome. Even on Windows, Google Chrome is like a mini operating system for the internet which comes complete with notifications, extensions, apps, themes, sync, and more. Firefox 4 seems to be playing catch up but Chrome still has more stuff going for it. I also hate restarting after installing extensions. LONG LIVE GOOGLE CHROME!

CobraPL

CobraPL reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 25, 2011

The Best !

SteveJohnSteele

SteveJohnSteele reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 25, 2011

10 Betas!
and how many RCs I wonder?

I like Firefox but I wish they would get on with it.

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 25, 2011

It still has a printing bug. When a text page is printed to PDF, it produces a graphical PDF, very large and non-searchable.

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 25, 2011

I'll be sticking with Firefox v3.x for a long time, it looks. No status bar - how's that a good thing? I use it all the time, and so do many addons. It's incredibly useful.

Second, version 4.x changes the design of the browser in a way that I'm just not happy with. I'm not a Chrome guy - I'm a classic layout guy. I use the Past Modern theme and it's very space efficient and looks great. I don't need to have a total redesign shoved down my throat.

Also, constantly changing the code in a way that makes addons incompatible time after time is really getting annoying. Version 4.x just breaks too many things to be immediately useful to me.

And even though this is Beta / RC 10, it's STILL noticeably less stable than the 3.x line.

As with a few other releases lately, it's just not ready for prime time - and I don't think it will be for a few more stable releases. Maybe 4.5 would be worth revisiting, but for now, 3.x with great addons like NoScript, Adblock Plus and Flashblock is plenty good enough.

I use CCleaner to manage my cookies in conjunction with Firefox 3.x and find that works well for privacy. Hopefully it will stay capable until 4.x gets on its feet. I'm not anxious to make the leap to 4.x, but know in time it will probably be forced on us in order to get better support for HTML5, SVG and some other improving technologies. I just want 4.x to really be better before I have to make the leap.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v4.0 Beta 10 on Jan 25, 2011

Cybercreep999 doesn't like it? I'm sold!

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 18, 2011

buggy ..... avoid

xpplus

xpplus reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 18, 2011

True Firefox 4 Beta 9 is extra slow
Firefox 4 is ugly to Vista and win 7 ugly Themes »

right now is Firefox 3.6.13 faster than Firefox 4,
yes hope Firefox when it comes out faster and more stable

Keverin

Keverin reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 15, 2011

ugly, slow, full of memory leaks, all the bugs that were there 10 years ago still are.

Sjamaan

Sjamaan reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 15, 2011

Fast as ray of light., low memory ussage and no major bugs so far. Best version of FF so far and the best browser for my needings beyond any doubt.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 15, 2011

It uses a huge number of memory.
They should concentrate on making it fast, small, functional.. etc
And not kill computers with g** eye candy sh**

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 15, 2011

Tried it on my LGE500 laptop. Seemed buggy. Not overly impressed. Probably would be better on my Dell Studio XPS desktop. Extensions seemed to be screwed up.

lang999

lang999 reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 14, 2011

eats up all of ur ram

sn0wy82

sn0wy82 reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 14, 2011

The only browser I'll ever use. Dislike Chrome far to ugly with a lack of useful addons. IE would never be my first choice nor my last!

klavc

klavc reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 14, 2011

I would really like and Firefox really needs to get a full sandbox as Gogole Chrome and Adobe Reader have.

thartist

thartist reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 14, 2011

Betanews could spew an article on whether Firefox is too late or not.
Btw, excellent if a little boring.

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 14, 2011

Chrome is still better! Firefox 4 is too little too late.

Snow Queen

Snow Queen reviewed v4.0 Beta 9 on Jan 14, 2011

Mozilla development team, and especially UI designers should be dumped.

finnlayer

finnlayer reviewed v4.0 Beta 8 on Dec 31, 2010

fire fox is ok browser, it sticks on webpages and freeze on them, crashes a lot when it does this, but i encounter problems on explorer and chrome freezing on web pages. I use at lest the 3 browsers, when you have Mal ware effecting on one, them you can use the other to help you get on the web, i think the blab on browsers wars is stupid one, the amount of space on hard drives today, would it kill you to use more or a lest have plenty than just one. if your not happy then there is apple safari ..

Firenze

Firenze reviewed v4.0 Beta 8 on Dec 21, 2010

Time is ripe for switching now that the biggest value of FF (AdBlockPlus) is getting ported to much better browsers Chome and Opera.

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v4.0 Beta 8 on Dec 21, 2010

This is a good browser for sure, but Firefox seems to be falling farther and farther behind Google's Chrome and Opera in terms of real innovation. Firefox is no longer the leader when it comes to innovation and advancement when it comes to web browsing. They aren't really pushing the envelope like they use to. It seems like they have gotten way too conservative and lost their edge to the competition. Chrome wins on speed and Opera wins on features and innovation today. Where does that leave Firefox? Even the Minefield alphas still lack any real creative innovations yet it seems. Sadly, the Firefox developers don't appear to be anywhere near as aggressive or as gutsy as they use to be in terms of leading the pack and pushing the web browsing technology envelope. All the excitement in this space now seems to be firmly split between Chrome and Opera.

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v4.0 Beta 8 on Dec 21, 2010

Still produces a huge-graphical PDF when printing to PDF a text page. Chrome is better for me.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.13 on Dec 10, 2010

Still a decent browser, Most of the PC's I care for have it installed & the owners are more than happy.

sn0wy82

sn0wy82 reviewed v3.6.13 on Dec 9, 2010

The only browser I'll ever use!

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v3.6.13 on Dec 9, 2010

Loooove this browser :)

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Dec 2, 2010

I'm loving this. Firefox with no addons or extensions is something I wish was permanent. It's always been the weak link in this browser anyway. The only reason I don't give it 5 stars is its a beta.

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 14, 2010

I am sorry, but I do not see much about this firefox4 that I like, I took it out of my computer. When they removed the status bar that totally ruined it for me. I also found the url bar was quirky but it is a beta. I did not see it as much faster than firefox 3.6. I am going to move on, all this browser war junk is getting more than boring now.

Slavic

Slavic reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 12, 2010

For me, the best FF4.0 beta was Beta 3 (it's still available on filehippo.com): no Sync, no Panorama, simple single-column menu on Firefox button and the status bar where it has to be (!). Unfortunately, after that beta developers have chosen the wrong road. It's still possible to make available the previous UI and make all excessive features optional, but I heavily doubt in that...

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

MUCH improved from the beta 6 as far as speed. I'm seeing across-the-board gains in perceived responsiveness, startup speed, and rendering speed on every machine I've installed it on.

The status bar (at the bottom of the browser) has been permanently removed. You can still bring up an "add-on bar" at the bottom, but it has reduced functionality. Because of this major interface change, you need to keep an eye out for extension compatibility issues. I ran into some MAJOR showstopping ones before I got things ironed out.

Direct2D rendering is finally good enough for daily use by most people with compatible hardware. And the new addons browser is finally working.

belylal

belylal reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Firstly, it's better than the previous versions.
Add-ons didn't really work for me, it's not much faster than previous versions, it's visibly slower than Opera and/or Chrome...and, it started laging after a while, but then it could have been just the site I was on at that moment (Facebook)...
Better than the previous versions, any, but for me, not good enough to be my primary browser...

Yours Truly

Yours Truly reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Mostly I like what I see and experience in the freshly released Firefox 4 beta 7; however I do not care for where the Firefox Button (button with sub-menus) is placed. I'd prefer to see the Firefox Button and the Tab Bar be combined to save space (then that extra space could be allotted to web page viewing). If not the Mozilla organization, then I am hoping that someone will develop an extension to do just that, combine the Firefox Button with the Tab Bar, and reclaim wasted space to be used for the view port area.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Where did the progress bar go?
I've looked all over in the view settings and in the options & can't find it.
I also want the stop button on my toolbar & can't find that either. Oh never mind, I found the darn stop button (on the other side of the url bar) what is it doing over there?. Plus I don't want the refresh & stop combo.
Surfing is fast, but the add on pages take forever to load.
At least download helper works with this one.
With all the things I have said in this posting, I still give it a 5.

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Default browser now. Renders all sites correctly. Speed is improved.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Much better than Chrome

mlazzaro

mlazzaro reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Running very fast to me. All my addons are updating to version 4, only echofon stop working in this version.

Bart Welson

Bart Welson reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

Still as slow as before, horrible UI, snail load times, good options removed and replaced by junk.

RitoSwan

RitoSwan reviewed v4.0 Beta 7 on Nov 11, 2010

The fleeding userbase is right, Firefox is a dying cow.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.6.12 on Oct 28, 2010

this is very fast
try
http://www.crystalidea.com/speedyfox

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v3.6.12 on Oct 28, 2010

What happened? More and more slow! Chrome or opera on horizon with same add-ons and bye FF!

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.11 on Oct 19, 2010

Lagging further behind Chrome on speed, although the future might change that. Still a nice browser & unbeaten with extensions & themes. Although for sheer speed it looks like Opera is the tops, my brain don't support milliseconds though.

krakokainer

krakokainer reviewed v3.6.11 on Oct 19, 2010

this browser is kickass yo

SuzzyWoozy

SuzzyWoozy reviewed v3.6.11 RC3 on Oct 15, 2010

come on guys! even Internet Exlorer 9 is faster than this!

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.6.11 RC3 on Oct 14, 2010

this is a nightly build

jorgosch

jorgosch reviewed v3.6.11 RC3 on Oct 13, 2010

Did they fix the bug in this release that no history was shown or used as suggestion in the location bar?

soundchazer

soundchazer reviewed v4.0 Beta 5 on Sep 10, 2010

It is not ready yet... it behaves more like an alpha than a beta. Several pages that I visit will not load correctly (if at all), it crashed on me twice in one day, it mucks the cookies (I went back to 3.6 only to discover I had to clean my cache and certain cookies since I lost access to yahoo mail and gmail).

Oh... and this is a CPU and memory hog... would take a constant 25% of my CPU processes.

I'm baffled with all of these issues this is called a beta.

JeremyP

JeremyP reviewed v4.0 Beta 5 on Sep 8, 2010

All pages I went to were blank, and when Firefox was loading I got an error about an internal network security error.

Don't think I'll be running this Beta, thanks.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v4.0 Beta 5 on Sep 8, 2010

Buggy
videos do not load

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.9 on Sep 8, 2010

No problems with ESET SS here, good browser but not as good as Chrome.

Robmaniac44, I thought you were using 'Seamonkey', if you can't find a good browser for Windows, I think your problems are not the browsers. Just a thought. :-)

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.6.9 on Sep 8, 2010

Thats ESET problem not Mozilla...

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v4.0 Beta 5 on Sep 7, 2010

@Galifray

I've seen that many, many times before, and it's always been something in the user profile that causes it. Once you create a new user profile for Firefox, the problem goes away.

I've never had the problem on my own system, so I'm not sure exactly what causes it, but I've seen it on plenty of machines I've worked on.

@JeremyP

Close Firefox and then start it again. The problem will go away.

Review:

LOTS of major changes in beta 5 over beta 4. Kind of surprising, actually. New download status behavior, new drop-down interface, hardware rendering now enabled by default if supported, and new font rendering.

So far, I haven't had any stability problems, but the hardware rendering system still has a few bugs to work out. For instance: videos embedded on web sites often don't render properly, even when they're not even playing.

I can't really decide if I like the new font rendering system or not on Windows. It's just... different. I guess time will tell.

Most of my extensions have progressed to the point that they at least offer nightly builds on their websites that work with these betas, and more are being updated every week. So nice, steady progress on that front.

Tab candy is nifty, but needs to be refined before I'll use it on a regular basis. Looks promising, though. And that kind of innovation is part of what keeps me coming back to Firefox.

Performance improvements over 3.x are slight, but noticeable. It's not gonna be the fastest kid on the block no matter what, but that's not really important to me as it's certainly fast enough.

If this were a final build, I'd give it a 4 because of the bugs and idiosyncrasies to be worked out. But for a beta, it's remarkably stable and usable, and I find it to be a big improvement over the 3.6 versions.

Galifray

Galifray reviewed v4.0 Beta 5 on Sep 7, 2010

This is getting to be a bad habit. Every beta of Firefox 4.0 has the same issue when I try to upgrade. It crashes instead of upgrading. So every restart enters a repeating loop of start the upgrade, check extensions, crash, ask for error report, close down and repeat. Yeah, it's probably something to do with using the 32-bit version (because of Adobe Flash) on Windows 7x64, but still...

craigun

craigun reviewed v4.0 Beta 5 on Sep 7, 2010

I'm happy with the way Firefox is heading! This is so much better then the current version 3.6.

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v4.0 Beta 4 on Aug 29, 2010

Hopefully, this isn't the beginning of another bloatware. The list of unnecessary or inferior new "features" is increasing.

But the worst are the constant crashes. It may be the GPU acceleration which I enabled.

mancubs

mancubs reviewed v4.0 Beta 4 on Aug 24, 2010

i am a newbie to fire fox ,i have got sick and tired of explore so it means that fire fox is going o be my browsers now it kinda rocks for me have tried all the others too,

XXXXXXX

XXXXXXX reviewed v4.0 Beta 4 on Aug 24, 2010

cgmark-Thanks for the Info!

Also check this page about D2D and links to test it out:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Direct2DDemo

Firefox 4 Beta 5 running Beautiful!

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v4.0 Beta 4 on Aug 24, 2010

I have never been a big fan of add ons, so what I want in Firefox is a fast, smooth and secure browser with good built-in features. Firefox 4 beta 4 is certainly fast.

The app tabs feature is working a bit better with this new version. Firefox now remembers your app tabs after you close the browser. However, I still don't see a way to "lock" a tab, preventing me from browsing to another site on that tab.

My biggest problem with Firefox at this point is font smoothing. I am not the youngest guy in the world, and I don't have the best eyesight. Firefox by far renders fonts the worst of any browser I use. I'd really like Firefox to implement a font smoothing feature, so that it gives us old guys a chance to actually "see" text on websites. I run websites for a living, and I simply can not use Firefox for browsing/updating my own sites. This makes Firefox a less viable option of my default web browser.

But overall I am very pleased with everything else about Firefox 4, Beta 4 right now.

cgmark

cgmark reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 13, 2010

If you have windows 7 you can enable gpu support so the gpu will handle scrolling, fonts, animation, video, etc

To enable D2D and DW support in Mozilla Minefield:

* Point your web browser to: about:config
* Agree to the warning message if presented
* Search for value: gfx.font_rendering.directwrite.enabled
* Set gfx.font_rendering.directwrite.enabled to true (left click it)
* Search for value: mozilla.widget.render-mode
* Set mozilla.widget.render-mode to 6
* Restart Minefield

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 12, 2010

Wow this is a big cpu pig
now I need a new computer just for this

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 11, 2010

Nice UI but is not to the level of Opera UI,

Where is the new tab button, Missing in action,, or what,

Plugins container uses so much CPU, keeps my laptop fan working all the time, this is also in version 3

other than most of extensions do not work, it is a step forward ,

I still found opera 10.6 is nice experience, it simply rocking fast.. while others still lagging behind including chrome, IE not even in the picture.

conan1873

conan1873 reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 11, 2010

IS THIS A BETA?

CobraPL

CobraPL reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 11, 2010

THIS IS BETA
THIS IS BETA
THIS IS BETA
THIS IS BETA
THIS IS BETA

so most extensions will not work.
Is that clear ?

jorgosch

jorgosch reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 11, 2010

@Kelson64
Thanks for the heads up... no extensions, no update.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 on Aug 11, 2010

Honestly, there's no reason to bother with this beta. Firefox has always been about the add-ons, and none of them really work with beta 3. The new app tabs are still not working properly. Ultimately, this is just a basic browser, and therein lies its weakness . . . as it doesn't perform as well as other browsers on the market.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Aug 10, 2010

Acid3 test scores 97/100 for FF 4.0 beta2. FF 3.6.8 scores 94. So improvement there. Note Chrome scores a perfect 100.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Aug 9, 2010

I'm really sick of every update of Firefox breaking its addons. Every time it breaks all the addons. There is no excuse for this. It does it whether its a beta or not, any minor update, and your screwed out of your addons.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Aug 8, 2010

I like the fact that there are few extension offerings. I would like it if this were permanent.

Frankie122

Frankie122 reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Aug 5, 2010

It is faster, and more stable too.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.6.8 on Aug 2, 2010

In addition to its many other problems this browser has contaminated my ESET Smart Security so that it will only update using Mozilla Firefox. I've reported this issue to ESET and am waiting for an answer.

I wouldn't use this browser if they gave it away with a goldmine.

vortal

vortal reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Jul 28, 2010

Agree with the other comments here.
FF4 is shaping up nicely and damn it is quick.
Really want my addons now, LastPass is working but not others.
Good bye Chrome :)

sn0wy82

sn0wy82 reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Jul 28, 2010

Finally Firefox is developing into something worth using. The only downside is the slow pace of developers making their addons work with it!

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Jul 28, 2010

Wow, that renders fast. C'mon addons!

Lee Wilkerson

Lee Wilkerson reviewed v3.6.8 on Jul 28, 2010

I've been using and updating Mozilla for about a year now, and with one exception (v3.2 I think) It works just great. Better'n iexplore any day.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Jul 27, 2010

This is improving, and I like app tabs feature. However, I might be doing something wrong. Whenever I shut down the browser, the app tabs disappear. Aren't they supposed to be permanent? Also, if I have an app tab open, if I click on a bookmark, shouldn't it open it in a new tab . . and not where the app tab is? The only thing I don't like is that the app tabs do not seem to be permanent at all. Of course, I may be doing something wrong .. and if so, please enlighten me!

jorgosch

jorgosch reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Jul 27, 2010

Lots of useless reviews and fanboys. Still, it's Firefox, but Firefox is nothing without plugins.

CobraPL

CobraPL reviewed v4.0 Beta 2 on Jul 27, 2010

It is nice. Of course addons do not work YET, but browser itself works like a charm.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.6.8 on Jul 26, 2010

No problems now. But you have to do clean install of Firefox and all extensions. Especially if you used Lastpass. When you install and uninstall some extensions,, problems with crashes will start to come up. So clean install is recommended.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.8 on Jul 26, 2010

Stable, fast, free & heaps of extensions & themes. One of the best.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.6.8 on Jul 26, 2010

No issues at all period.
Hey roj. IE misses you.
How do you spell QA? Is this a trick question?

roj

roj reviewed v3.6.8 on Jul 26, 2010

Oh look, another "golll-eee I frakked up again" update, a day after the last "golll-eee I frakked up again" update.

And it's STILL doing the "server not found" BS - on 7 (SEVEN) machines, five different users and three different version of Windows. The problem has gone on for year with successive releases - that's long enough and almost as stupid as the memory leak that plagued the browser for two years.

Can you clowns even spell QA ) of course fangurlz like anomoly can't even read and understand so the question is rhetorical for them)?

ONE stars for a dev team that clearly needs to get it in gear.

sld

sld reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 25, 2010

The 1 star is for the lousy software reviewer. b3pre does NOT mean beta 3 preview, it means pre-beta 3 build i.e. Minefield nightly build. beta 2 isn't even out yet, please do not mislead your readers.

cgmark

cgmark reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 25, 2010

Notice it says PREVIEW
A preview is an early version of a beta revision

onawim

onawim reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 25, 2010

Personally, I think others are just trying to mar the product. Firefox is a good browser and when version 4 is released, it will showcase a good product even better. 5 stars and keep up the work.

XXXXXXX

XXXXXXX reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 23, 2010

This is a nightly build and it is not ready for prime time. I still rate it a 5 because the program is still in developing stages but it is the best of the best browsers.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 23, 2010

I'm giving 5 stars because this is an excellent program. But what idjit saw fit to put a PREVIEW of beta 3 up here, when mozilla haven't even released beta 2 yet ? You're getting folks posting serious reviews on this based on an assumption it's the latest beta, and it's NOT.

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 23, 2010

Beta 2 isn't even out yet. Stop posting pre-releases! I'm running the first build of Beta 2 now. App tabs are here but they don't yet eliminate the navigation bar so they're of limited use. Would be nice if there was an option to always hide the nav bar when at a specified URL like mail.google.com. I don't really need the tabs to be open all the time. Also would be nice if when I type in the nav bar, bookmarks get prioritized. Would like to run bookmarklets from the nav bar too. In general, Mozilla needs to a lot of work with navigability.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 23, 2010

Still extremely slow on start up and renders slower than other browsers. It also seems to have more page rendering issues then it used to.

Despite what blind fans say, this browser is clearly trying to play catch up with much better pieces of software like Chrome(- the security issues) and Opera. If this is the best Mozilla can do, then it's time to hit the bricks. Either that or dump more money in to promoting like they have done in the past because it surely doesn't go in to producing

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 23, 2010

Slava - though i have a 64-bit os, i don't see the utility of a 64-bit browser (or word processor, for that matter). I have never used MS IE 64-bit browser, and generally use FF 32-bit browser. This FF beta seems to run quicker. I do look at Chrome from time to time b/c of the speed, but do most serious work with ff.

Slavic

Slavic reviewed v4.0 Beta 3 Preview on Jul 23, 2010

The version 4.0b3pre is in fact the trunk build, i.e. version in development which has not reached beta status yet, it's planned as public beta some time later, around 6th August. For me, most prominent feature of upcoming b3 is the Windows x64 version, which already works very smooth, but has lack of plugins yet, I hope they will be added soon. Available here:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
Upcoming beta 2 is in 1-2 days before release after QA tests, link to build 1 is here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_4.0b2
Very promising!

saadsaleem

saadsaleem reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 22, 2010

Just make sure that you delete your complete history and off-line files if you are unable to open Gmail or render other sites properly.

roj

roj reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 21, 2010

Input Overload:

Jackass, just because YOU never had the issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Anyone with any experience in IT knows that - even neophytes. Just where does that leave you?

In any event you'll note that the changelog for this release includes fixes for "stability issues", a useful euphemism for "we frakked up yet again". You'll also note that others had the "Firefox sits there with its thumb up its azz and its mind in neutral trying to load a page" issue with the previous release, specifically the one I flayed.

Kids today...

FOUR stars for finally getting it right... after messing up yet again.

xsnred

xsnred reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 20, 2010

The only problem I have had with FF is that a page will not load , just sits there trying to load. If I hit the stop button and reload, the page comes up. I try the same page in Chrome and no problem. Chrome is certainly faster but FF is my browser of choice. I just loaded .7 so I'll see what happens there. If anyone can tell me why I get that slow load, would be much appreciated.

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 20, 2010

keeps messing my system,,,, keeps on crashing while running GM scripts, for no apparent reason.
the same script is running alright in Chrome, FF 3.5.1.

3.6.6 was a dud, lets hope 3.6.7 is better.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 20, 2010

From my point of view not quite as fast as Chrome 6 but an excellent browser that keeps getting better. One of the best!

roj, I suggest you purchase 'PC's For Dummies' as I have never had any dropped sites or other problems you have. I can assure you it's either your ISP or you don't understand PC's.

rog:- P.S. You seem a very angry person & as I'm from the UK the term 'Jackass' means nothing to me. The problems you have seem ongoing as it's not with just one or two builds you are having issues. I spend my working life in server rooms and I assure you the problem is yours. Wrap the PC up take it back to the shop (Store to you) & tell them you lack sufficient intelligence to own a PC. Hopefully after a few minutes conversation with you they will agree & give you a refund.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 20, 2010

No problem, fast 'n' smooth. Comments like those of roj always stun me. I've been using Firefox since version 2.x, I've never-ever encountered roj's tribulations :) Not one crash, with 80 extensions and all traditional plug-ins...
I think some users should take care of their computer before blaming the world and the others :)

soldier1st

soldier1st reviewed v3.6.7 on Jul 20, 2010

awesome as always.

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 15, 2010

Works perfectly for me. Disable add-on compatibility check and edited the userChrome.css to move the tabs to the title bar, giving me an extra line of web content. Still waiting on other promised features like app tabs and possibly a file browser.

roj

roj reviewed v3.6.6 on Jul 12, 2010

Once again the twits at ZillaLand show their inconsistency. This is a problem that resurfaces every couple of point releases, gets righted mysteriously and then recurs two or so releases later again.

What problem is this?

Firefox will sporadically and for no apparent reason suddenly start dropping sites. It will claim that sites are not available but if refresh is done four or five times (or the browser dumped and reloaded), the sites will magically come up. In fact it did that just now posting this review. 3.0 used to have this problem. It went away with 3.5. Now it's back.

This was also in evidence a couple of point releases ago and was "fixed" until the current release. Before that, it was in evidence several releases prior and was again mysteriously "fixed". The changelog never ever iterates what was fixed. This is repeatable on different networks using different machines and completely highlights Firefox's ever present flaw and nemesis:

SUSTAINABILITY.

I am sick and tired of seeing this browser fall on its azz due to poor development practices and testing.

Anyone for .7?

ONE star for repeated stupidity.

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 10, 2010

Holy crap. I imagine they took Opera to their developers and said "make it look EXACTLY like this"...

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 8, 2010

Visually, this is terrible. If this is the direction they are going in, than they have jumped the shark for sure. Like Windows vista/7, this trend towards min. buttons and toolbars is totally annoying. I'll stay with the 3. series and never upgrade to this version.

fudgetunnel

fudgetunnel reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 8, 2010

Broke all but one of my extensions. Feedback didn't work. Uninstalled within 5 minutes.

Not ready for human consumption.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Excellent program, I've been using it for years and it just keeps getting better.

I'm a little surprised by Hilbert's comments. The only thing his rant achieves is to show that he doesn't have a clue about how addons work. Addon makers themselves include within the addon a range of Firefox versions the addon will work in. When Firefox loads addons on startup, it will block an addon if it doesn't explivitly say it can run in this version of Firefox. Of course the addons he's trying won't work in version 4. That's because the writer of the addon hasn't included version 4 as 'working' so Firefox refuses to run it. It's just plain daft to blame Firefox for that. It's up to the addon writers to release new versions that support Ver 4.

SteveJohnSteele

SteveJohnSteele reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Good but still needs work.

Sidebar for everything... History and Favorites open in sidebar - BUT downloads STILL open in a separate window - imho all these need to open in sidebar (or tab) - add to that source code (and several others I haven't thought of)

Each tab in separate process, as well as plugins.

The ability to pause everything (flash, gif, sound etc) on tabs that are not currently being viewed.

I sort of agree with Hilbert concerning addons.
Perhaps some 'go-between' layer would allow better backward compatibility.
Browser / compatibility layer / Addons

Andy Dean

Andy Dean reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Hilbert why not have a rant at the extension makers for not keeping up.
Overall this version is running fine, a little faster than previous versions and I love the tabs at the top :)

Hilbert

Hilbert reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

UPDATE (original post at end):
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@mfarmilo: Re my criticisms of Firefox 4 beta.

Unfortunately, I'm all too familiar with how add-ons work in Firefox; moreover, how Mozilla has implemented versioning control within Firefox is fundamental to the problem. Suffice to say, except in rare circumstances, versioning should be ignored in Firefox or at most, the program should only issue warnings when users install earlier-version add-ons. (And I don’t need any spurious lectures on security or of program stability as they're not germane to the fundamental points I'm making here--security is a totally separate argument altogether and programming APIs should be stable standards subject to well regulated change control processes and not jumping about like lotto ball numbers.)

Let's look at the Mozilla Firefox add-ons problem holistically, in such an approach we're not interested in how add-ons actually achieve what they do--as that is a matter of engineering detail--but rather we should focus on how the user perceives and reacts to the outcome which they're supposed to deliver. Now, in the broader context of the PC environment, consider how these issues affect the viability of Mozilla's flagship product, Firefox:

1. Can you seriously imagine what users would say or do if Microsoft brought out a new version of Windows which would not run most of the user's programs? There'd be utter outrage and rightly so. Witness Vista--even when a small percentage of programs failed to run on it, the consequences were sufficiently bad to affect Microsoft's bottom line. The question has to be asked as to why Firefox is so special--so fickle or so fundamentally different that it cannot comply with the expected user norm, as does MS Windows.

1.1 In the absence of any better reason I've heard so far, I'd contend that the incompatibility issues, inter alia, either result from fundamental design flaws or limitations in Firefox's design/architecture--or the lack of foresight in the initial design thereof or it's that Mozilla keeps changing its mind, or it's both. Is Firefox a design failure, directionless or both?

1.2 Even if Firefox and its plug-ins/add-ons are free then users' and IT staff's time usually is not. Simply, users will not tolerate being continually mucked about in this way.

1.3 Making excuses for Mozilla simply because it's perceived to be the underdog in the long running war with Microsoft simply doesn’t hold water, it never has. Bad design is still bad design, bad coding is still bad programming no matter who does it. And here we're all ill served by Mozilla making every new version of Firefox incompatible with previous ones, especially so given the long time Mozilla has been producing Firefox.

2. From the program's inception, Mozilla has failed consistently and repeatedly to code into Firefox certain key features that are and have been a vital part of Internet Explorer's specification/function for years. Effectively, Firefox's implementation of Web browsing is a poor and substandard experience to that offered by Internet Explorer simply by virtue of it using only a subset of IE's key functions. When Mozilla decided to downsize the ailing bloated Netscape, its minimum specification should have been 'all the key operational functions of IE 5' and some icing on the cake to entice users away from IE. What Mozilla actually gave us with Firefox wasn't even all the cake let alone any decent icing! We did however get lots of anti-Microsoft propaganda and hype (even if MS well deserved it).

2.1 One case really stands out: I'm specifically referring to the fact that in every edition/version of Firefox to date including the new version 4 beta, Mozilla failed to include the key function to save a Web page as a single (archive) file, specifically Internet Explorer's 'Web Archive, single file (*.mht*)' format, the MHTML/MIME HTML, RFC 2557, which Microsoft correctly and adroitly incorporated within Internet Explorer 5 as far back as 1999--long before Firefox saw the light of day!

2.2 With respect, if at this late juncture of the browser debate, the reader fails to understand the significance saving a Web page to a single archive file, then perhaps he or she shouldn't be in this discussion. [In this information age where increasing data entropy is of concern for many--especially archivists, librarians, researchers and dare I say even students, it simply does not make sense to save a Web page as multiple files spread out over different directories so as to easily get lost or be separated in transport or in the archiving process; or for parts--files--to get gobbled up by duplicate eliminators and cleaners etc.] Incidentally, as well as IE, the Opera browser also incorporates saving Web pages as MHT files as a native inbuilt function and it has done so for quite some considerable time.

2.3 Ordinary users have very little conception about how a Web page is stored in bits and pieces and usually do not understand why when they sent a stored page across a network or the Internet that it usually displays in some very broken fashion if at all--nor should they need to as the problem ought not exist. Instead of leading by example and contributing to further development of RFC 2557 standard--which incidentally is sorely needed--Mozilla has chosen abrogate its position of power and responsibility by ignoring the issue altogether. Clearly, Mozilla couldn’t care less about such users; presumably it does not perceive them as part of its geeky market, which only further attests to the common belief that Firefox is not a browser for the ordinary user but one written by geeks for geeks.

3. Yes, I can hear '…but there's Firefox add-ons for MHTML' roar from here. Correct, there's add-ons UnMHT and Mozilla Archive Format (MAF/MAFF) for Firefox. However, this is the thrust of my point--neither of the latest versions of these add-ons works in the Firefox 4 beta. Almost every time Mozilla updated Firefox, point version or otherwise, users who wanted to save Web pages in single archive files were thwarted, they simply couldn’t use Firefox until the add-on writers had graciously rewritten their products. Essentially for users who use MHTML files, Firefox was unusable, and quite often it was so for long periods. Before UnMHT came upon the scene there was an inordinately long period where 'Mozilla Archive Format' was not updated at all which left its users who updated Firefox high and dry, the only viable option left was for them to revert back to IE which they usually did

3.1 Mozilla's failure to incorporate such a key function into Firefox was an unacceptable policy decision as it left users vulnerably exposed to a part time add-on/extension writer who had insufficient time to adequately develop the product. Moreover, it's also a clear failure of Mozilla's policy of 'we-can't-get-a-big-bloated-program-to-work-properly-so-let's-build-a-small-one-by-leaving-key-functions-out-and-then-leave-users-to-the-vagaries-of-part-time-add-on-writers. Heaven forbid, is this really the best way to develop key software in the 21st Century? I think not.

3.2 Right, I accept that Microsoft was initially responsible for the problem by giving Internet Explorer away 'free' and thus undercutting the viability of other browser manufacturers. Nonetheless, Mozilla has perpetuated the problem and it must accept much of the responsibility for it. It has never acknowledged the serious limitations of its present add-ons development methodology--at least to ordinary users--nor has it taken adequate and prudent steps within the development process to overcome such limitations, it blithely goes on its merry way with an attitude of hang the concerns of ordinary users. This attitude is especially abhorrent in recent years given now that Mozilla's financial viability is reasonably well assured.

4. For many thinking IT people, Mozilla's Firefox was potentially a godsend as it offered great potential for escaping the clutches of the buggy virus-prone Internet Explorer. However, in practice, this often turned out not to be the case.

4.1 Many IT departments, Help Desks etc. found that Firefox compatibility issues and ongoing updates to be a major operational and deployment headache and they continue to do so. These issues are not just hypothetical problems but rather ones of considerable operational significance that have a substantial affect on the operation of an IT department. Here's a short and incomplete list:

* As stated, Firefox broke and continues to break plug-ins and add-ons whenever it is upgraded. This problem represents significant deployment and maintenance costs for such operations.

* Firefox has ongoing compatibility issues--a la the MHT/MHTML problem. Moreover, it's very questionable whether recent changes in Mozilla's development policy with respect to add-ons etc. will solve the broader problem of what is to be included with or excluded from Firefox's inbuilt functions.

* Firefox obfuscates users' data files, thus it's difficult for users (and time consuming and costly for IT staff) to trawl through Firefox's user-file detritus to find lost data or to transfer it to other programs. (In the real world of daily IT operations, this is a much bigger problem than most geeks and Firefox aficionados would ever suspect.)

* Even the seemingly simplest of issues has become a significant issue for many IT departments. For example, Firefox 'Bookmarks' are not directly interchangeable with those of IE's 'Favorites', nor are they directly exportable to IE's format (and to a degree they are obfuscated when the 'Bookmarks' file is examined by other programs, text editors etc.). Whilst Firefox has an importer and backup for 'Bookmarks', it has no export function--as is the case with so many programs whose programmers arrogantly assume that their program is the definitive one from which no one would ever need to export data. Again, to solve these problems users have had to resort to various add-ons that usually break every time Firefox is updated.

4.2 Instead of Firefox being the best solution for many IT departments it has become more trouble than it is worth, thus more often than not, the choice has been to remain with troublesome, virus-prone Internet Explorer--but it's a product whose plug-ins rarely broke! Even now, I know of organizations that continue to use the dreadful IE 6 simply because zealots and geeky programmers at Mozilla prefer to give development time over to their own interests in preference to that of the ordinary hapless user. It's quite a disgrace really, the fact that Mozilla thinks and works in this way means it's done the computing industry a significant disservice.

5. To make matters worse, Mozilla often does not fix well know problems, even serious bugs that its programmers have known about for years still remain within Firefox. For example, the well-known and annoying bug in Firefox's printing where printed pages contain badly formatted data and or where only a few pages of say a dozen or so of those displayed are actually printed, is still present in the new Firefox 4 beta. Here's a current example of this printing problem which I came across whilst testing the Firefox 4 beta. It's a common enough Web page in which one would not expect to experience a printing problem:

http://www.search-autopa...cleDetail.jsp?id=130652

The Web page only prints to about half way through the displayed screen content (for me it printed up to the end of the sentence which ends '…where paint is not to be removed').

5.1 I personally have referred this problem to Mozilla on occasions over recent years and I know others have too, yet this serious Firefox bug still remains ignored by Mozilla's developers and has done so for far too long. This is such a major bug, that for some IT departments, it alone is considered serious enough to have Firefox banned on the grounds that it does not meet the fitness for purpose criteria, which essentially means that it does not work in a key and vital area of its functionality. Again, it's just another instance of where zealot Mozilla geeks prefer to work on their own more popular agendas rather than fix key (but boring) issues which are important to ordinary users. BTW, current versions of Opera all print the aforementioned page without difficulty.

6. If you think I'm overstating the case then you solitary programmers and computing types should think again. You simply have not worked in a Help Desk or IT department where Firefox updates are just dreaded, as dozens of users will experience plug-ins and add-ons that afterwards will no longer work. Nor have you felt the wrath of management when things suddenly fail to work after a Firefox upgrade, or of the effects on the morale of IT staff when your accounts department fails to pay overtime or consultant's fees incurred in rectifying Mozilla's f%#@-ups.

Firefox is not a standards-setter but rather a poor follower. Except in areas where its geeky programmers want to lead it, Firefox leads only from behind and it always has. Opera for example has always been a much better leader; even though it's not a market leader, but it's usually the one from whom others including Mozilla have regularly pinched new browser ideas. Unfortunately for many ordinary users, machinations over Firefox updates and add-ons will be of little or no concern as Firefox remains without sufficient enticement to make them change from Internet Explorer.

I've been a longstanding critic of Microsoft for many years so it's been hard for me to write such critical words about a product that ought to have eaten IE for breakfast years ago. That's a fact, believe it as you may[1].

What I find so disconcerting is why so many users and programmers alike are so thankful for such small mercies. Why is it that so many are prepared to continually put up with software that has been so badly engineered, both functionally and ergonomically, which if it were any other product other than software, would be the subject of consumer legislation and lemon laws--but when given a minor paint job here or there--it is then perceived by them as a major breakthrough or advance in the state of the art? It is little wonder that we remain mired in MS Windows security issues and such whilst there's so little critical debate over this issue of software quality. When it comes to software, it is as if the Internet has forced us all into a consensus of accepting that the lowest common denominator will actually do, it's effect is as if we'd been weened forcibly off the notion that software quality and the performance of software actually does matter.

Furthermore, it's been thus for a long time. In September 1994, SciAm published a seminal article by W. Wayt Gibbs on the problems of software development, 'Software's Chronic Crisis - Trends In Computing'. This perceptive and insightful article, which ought to be compulsory reading for all within the software industry especially developers, explores the problematic depths of software development, and it is just as relevant today--probably more so--than when it was written some 16 years ago. All Mozilla Firefox development issues to which I've referred are encapsulated therein, issues are so concisely explained that even Firefox's developers should have little difficulty in understanding them:

http://www.cis.gsu.edu/~...SciAmSept1994.html#Ref1

Key issues and problems have changed little since then, if anything they're worse now than they once were. Since this article was published we've witnessed the whole vulnerability debacle of Microsoft's Windows and Internet Explorer with their seemingly-endless number of security holes not to mention thousands of bugs, ongoing fixes and of course paid upgrades which automatically propel users into the next level of the same. In practice it seems we've learned little or nothing since then, even supposed mavericks such a Mozilla have fared little better, for they've just produced more of the same with cherries on top.

An original September 1994 issue of this SciAm takes pride of place in the computing and programming section of my bookshelf where it remains a constant reminder and leveler whenever I get too excited over software that the industry purports to be new and wonderful with bells on top. Perhaps BetaNews/FileForum's readers could do worse than to place copies in their own libraries.

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[1] I don't believe anyone would have the stamina to consecutively read another post of mine, but the proof is here: http://www.betanews.com/...lorer-6-ills/1265215653

P.S.: it seems I've been dueling with @mfarmilo previously, he's also the recipient of this other long post about Microsoft (URL directly above). Perhaps we should meet for coffee one day, I'm sure we'd get along famously. :-)

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ORIGINAL POST:

Here's my uninstall feedback comments to Mozilla:

"Plug-ins/Add-ons, as usual, are broken AGAIN!! What the hell's wrong with you all at Mozilla that every major and many minor versions of Firefox have been incompatible with earlier add-ons??? You've been screwing up the add-ons for years. This time it's a record--of the 9 common widely-used add-ons that I've tried on Firefox v4--NOT ONE single one has worked!!

DO YOU IDIOTS REALIZE, THAT FOR THE USER, THIS IDIOCY IS EQUIVALENT TO THAT WHENEVER MICROSOFT BRINGS OUT A NEW VERSION OF MS OFFICE/WORD THAT IT WOULD NOT READ DOC FILES FROM THE PREVIOUS VERSION? RIGHT, NOT EVEN MICROSOFT WOULD DO SOMETHING AS IDIOTIC AS THIS.

WE'RE 30+ YEARS DOWN THE TRACK IN PERSONAL COMPUTING--70 IN MAINSTREAM COMPUTING--AND PROGRAMMING IS NO LONGER AN EXPERIMENTAL EXERCISE ANYMORE. GOT THAT! YOU--MOZILLA--STILL APPARENTLY HAVEN'T HEARD OF THE TERM 'BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY' OR THAT IT'S A SERIOUSLY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR MOST USERS--NOT TO MENTION THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF LOST AND WASTED HOURS YOU HAVE CAUSED PLUG-IN DEVELOPERS BY HAVING THEM REWRITE CODE.

IT IS NOT ONLY A DISGRACE BUT IT'S TRULY UNPROFESSIONAL; ALSO IT'S A WASTE OF HUMAN EFFORT TO MUCK SO MANY ABOUT. HOW MANY MILLIONS OF TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD THIS IS A MAJOR/SERIOUS ISSUE?? SUCH ARROGANCE IS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE; IT COULD NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT IN THE SOFTWARE INDUSTRY AND BY A MOB WHO HAS TAX EXEMPT STATUS--IN NO OTHER INDUSTRY ANYWHERE WOULD SUCH UNACCEPTABLE CONDUCT BE TOLERATED.

AS USUAL, I WILL CONTINUE TO USE OPERA, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND TO MY CLIENTS THAT THEY AVOID FIREFOX AND OTHER MOZILLA PRODUCTS. YOU LEAVE ME WITH NO OTHER CHOICE."

Why are many of you other reviewers so content and happy to score broken goods so highly? No wonder the quality of software is in such a bad state.

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Using it since yesterday, no problem so far. Good.

belylal

belylal reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

This version of Firefox is just as fast as Opera or Chrome, but better. It just feels better, more professional. Add-ons still not working but the way this is going that won't be a problem in the future. I've been using Chrome for a while now and it's great, compared to this version of Firefox though it's just to minimalistic, too simple. Firefox gets the job done just as nicely and just as quickly without being minimalistic.
Firefox is back on track with this one...

pjb

pjb reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Nice update from the previous B1. Works really well, especially using the tip from thartist via KillerZ123 - addon's work ok. The only ones I have had to disable are Xmarks (as it won't sync) and Tab Mix Plus (as it causes my tabs to become irregular sizes)

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Noticeable speed increase.

Don't care much for tabs on top but at least they've kept an option to keep them as before.

Can't wait for final version!

tontito

tontito reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

nilst2006 that really looks like a stupid comment.

test the software then comment.

I whish i could delete your comment...

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

A lot better than before.
But the design looks almost exactly like Opera. I mean, all browsers looks very similar these days, but here even the coloring, buttons, etc looks EXACTLY like Opera. Lame ;/

cool_guy

cool_guy reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

Beautiful and sleek design. The new revamped UI is absolutely beautiful. Looks awesome on Aero Well done! We need something like this for Thunderbird. I have placed the tabs at the bottom as they seem to be better matching the Aero UI in my own opinion.

Can't tell on Windows 7 whether there are any start-up performance improvements due to superfetch misbehaving. Every time you start Windows (sometimes it would take FF 1 second to start literally and sometimes 7 seconds). 5 stars from me but pay attention on the start up speed or the score will go down.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 7, 2010

ugly and slow as hell!

thartist

thartist reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 6, 2010

ADD-ON COMPATIBILITY: disable add-ons compatibility check under about:config by adding add new boolean 'extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0b' and set to false. Restart FF.

Credit to KillerZ123, works perfect for my addons.

xsnred

xsnred reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 6, 2010

I read a good review over at Lifehacker which some good screen shots too. My jury is still out on this new build. Redesigning the UI is all good I guess, but I hope it will be as functional as 3.6. I have been a big fan of FF but lately I have been using Chrome a lot because of the clean interface and speed. I like simple and FF4 doesn't look clean and simple. I'm sure it will be extremely functional for the business community that needs all the makeover you're going to get. I'm only giving it a 1, but then again I haven't tried it yet. Sorry, don't like betas.

smaragdus

smaragdus reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 on Jul 6, 2010

An awful course of development of both Firefox and Opera, why should they copycat the terrible piece of wood called Chrome? Firefox 4 does not look good. I am not apt to correct its terrible design with the use of themes. The tabs are anti-ergonomic. It seems that Firefox and Opera will force me to make either Safari or K-Meleon my default browser. A great disappointment.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.6.6 on Jul 3, 2010

@ ZenWarrior - delete Mozilla folders in Documents, should helps...

Stevefarrell

Stevefarrell reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 30, 2010

I tried this beta 1 until I discovered that the public beta 2 is available. Its called 4.0b2pre. Now just hoping they include the GPU acceleration in the next build. This new build is certainly faster than 3.6.6 but most of my addons are incompatable.

TheDevilHimself

TheDevilHimself reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 30, 2010

Now I have tried Mozilla Firefox 4.0 beta 1 for a couple of days, and it works perfect, its fast and smooth, no s*** here. I use a medion Akoya mini computer and I haven't noticed any problems at all. Normally I use Google Chrome latest beta version and I like it so far, but this new Mozilla beta version is good and I will shurely continue for a couple of days more.

rstat1

rstat1 reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 29, 2010

@b0mmel I'm pretty sure the UI is still a work in progress. Which means its gonna look unpolished.
Note that this isn't even 4.0 Beta 1, its a candidate build to be labeled Beta 1 should it pass the necessary testing.

lucianct

lucianct reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 29, 2010

the UI in windows7 could have been better. the strata40 and stratabuddy addons do a lot better job with firefox 3.6 than firefox 4.0b1 without any addons

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 29, 2010

Seriously underwhelmed. The interface looks very unpolished, the browser is slow to start and lags when scrolling on many sites. Feels like driving a 20 year old worn out car. Tested it only on a netbook, but Chrome 6, IE9 DP 3 and Opera 10.60 all perform excellent on it.

I realize this is Beta 1 but I expected a lot more.

Actually 1 star but I'll give it 2 for the sake of the old times.

elitegangsta

elitegangsta reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 29, 2010

Nice operation, seems pretty stable on my system. Top tabs need to shift left about 4 pixels, only flaw i've noticed so far. I'm liking the new interface though, nice and clean.

pjb

pjb reviewed v4.0 Beta 1 Candidate on Jun 29, 2010

Works well, tried it this afternoon.
Add-ons tend not to work at the moment, but that is down to the provider.
Am sure add on updates will arrive shortly.
The GUI is ok, would like to see the first tab flush left with the rest of the left interface,

xsnred

xsnred reviewed v3.6.6 on Jun 28, 2010

I, like DaComboMan, have tried every browser out there but I always come back to FireFox. That doesn't mean it is the best, it means it's the best for me. I read all the bad reviews about crashing and what nots but I very rarely have a problem. I use it mostly at home and don't need 45 tabs opened and then complain that it crashes. To clarify something, I do like the other browsers and think they perform to what the makers say, but I like Firefox for me.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.6.4 on Jun 25, 2010

Pros:
You can put all plugins into "out of process" block with just one change in about:config.
Since I installed Flash 10.1, I have not seen any crashes or crash logos due to Flash. It is a huge deal.

Cons:
Could be faster. It is plenty fast for normal use, but you do not want to be slowest browser on the net.
Problems with some JavaScript applications. I had to block Disqus talkbacks because it crashed Firefox all the time. Engadget.com used to freeze for 20 seconds every time article opened.

ZenWarrior

ZenWarrior reviewed v3.6.4 on Jun 24, 2010

I've not been able to start Firefox without it immediately freezing since updating to 3.6.4. Goodbye, Firefox.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.4 on Jun 23, 2010

I used to be an Opera user for years but moved to Firefox a few months ago & it just keeps getting better. A great browser.

UPieper

UPieper reviewed v3.6.4 on Jun 23, 2010

V3.6.4 is much better than previous 3.6.x versions as far as memory consumption is concerned

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v3.6.4 on Jun 22, 2010

Have been testing all latest releases from Opera, Maxthon, Google Chrome and Safari but still keep coming back to Firefox. Allways a dynamite browser!

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v3.6.4 on Jun 22, 2010

This is the best browser. Fäck chrome !!!

bopb99

bopb99 reviewed v3.7 Alpha 5 on Jun 15, 2010

Find this release very interesting with the speed improvements they have done. Can't wait for the final version.

@thartist
Oh please.
You find it boring, whoehoeboehoe...

It's a normal UI for a browser.
That it doesn't gets flashier constantly is something you will have to live with.
Besides, it's better than Chrome's or IE's UI.

About the addons, they also check for the version number. That's why there is that message about saying you need firefox.

thartist

thartist reviewed v3.7 Alpha 5 on Jun 14, 2010

hmmm this alpha5 looks as boring as firefox always did even with the new glass.
i'm holding my expectations till the 4.0 new interface is implemented.

juanito1968

juanito1968 reviewed v3.6.4 RC1 on Jun 3, 2010

This is not RC1; is the Build # 6 of the Beta release.
Check http://releases.mozilla....ightly/3.6.4-candidates/ and/or http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...ightly/3.6.4-candidates/ for any further information.
FileForum or Mozilla mistake?

fudgetunnel

fudgetunnel reviewed v3.6.4 RC1 on Jun 2, 2010

Yes, RC1 still has the memory leak.

Try this:

Start fresh browser.

Crt-alt-del > Windows Task Manager> Processes> Firefox.exe (and plugin-container.exe)

Note memory usage.

Open 5 Youtube videos in seperate tabs. Play for a few minutes.

Close all tabs.

Note memory usage now.

Both the Plug-in Container and Firefox executable will remain bloated.

Fail.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v3.6.4 RC1 on Jun 2, 2010

So far so good. New separate processing threads for browser plug-ins (Adobe Flash, Apple Quicktime and Microsoft Silverlight to start with) reveals itself by means of a 'plugin-container.exe' localized in the Mozilla Firefox folder, and works at this time perfectly well. Strange to read a flash file and see the firefox.exe cpu rate stay way down.... whilst 'plugin-container.exe' is doing the hard work! Nevertheless, total cpu usage for firefox.exe + plugin-container.exe when reading a flash file was lower than for firefox.exe alone on version 3.6.3.
Splendid, crossing fingers for more positive experimentation.

alanladd

alanladd reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 3 on May 19, 2010

Would love to rate Firefox 3.6.3 however, I can't as Firefox will not open for me. My previous version (don't ask because I don't know and I uninstalled it) worked fine but I decided to update. Went for 3.6.3. Installed but will not open. Uninstalled 3.6.3 and downloaded 3.5.9 but that won't work either. Am about to give 3.7 alpha a go but I'm not holding out much hope. GIVE ME BACK MY FIREFOX - I hate to slowness of IE.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 3 on May 17, 2010

I am reporting on Firefox 3.6.4b4. Do not install it. Day after I installed it, Firefox stoped working. It went to offline mode and stoped functioning.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 3 on May 8, 2010

@ ubermann - no memory leaks anymore...
Firefox has now the best memory management... :)

http://www.tomshardware....hrome-opera,2558-4.html
http://dotnetperls.com/chrome-memory
http://arstechnica.com/o...y-than-ie-and-opera.ars
http://avencius.nl/conte...-opera-950-memory-usage
etc... ;)

ubermann

ubermann reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 3 on May 7, 2010

Still Memory leaks?
I gave up on firefox since 3.x

4122

4122 reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 3 on May 6, 2010

Very stable....even with the latest beta version of Flash. I'm not experiencing any of the stability problems Borisf98 is even though I'm running a bajillion extensions myself.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

Vivek Kowshik

Vivek Kowshik reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on May 5, 2010

A print bug that I had pointed out in version 2.x has now reappeared in 3.6.3. Almost any website which is spread over multiple pages, gets completely disoriented and has missing sections and blank pages for no reason, when printed to a pdf document. This is immediately visible when we see the preview of a page. Increasing the zoom factor causes more of the contents to get lost.
This is a big problem when we need to store a pdf for future reference. It appears there is very little attention being paid to the printing ability of the browser these days, and more time being spent on just about everything else.

Galifray

Galifray reviewed v3.7 Alpha 3 on Apr 26, 2010

After a long absence from using Firefox, I decided to try out the latest build. I found it funny that Mozilla's Add-ons Site kept telling me that I needed Mozilla Firefox to install add-ons. Amusing, if only for the comedy of being told on Firefox that I needed Firefox, and YES, it was with the few add-ons that were supposedly for use with 3.7 a4. Even with Nightly Tester Tools installed I got the same message about needing firefox. Though oddly, I could install the same extensions and themes via the add-on dialog and search that is part of the browser. Oh, I like the new settings, especially the privacy setting, but... Firefox is banished from my computer once again.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on Apr 25, 2010

Not under any circumstances update to 3.6.4beta or any version with plugin container. Mozilla should not be pushing it. It is not ready. Also do not install latest Flash betas and release candidates. I had my Firefox crashing twice per hour. I thought it was because of one of my 80 extensions and gazillions of scripts I installed. But it was not the case. After I downgraded to Firefox 3.6.3, removed Adobe Shockwave, and uninstalled latest Flash, problem seemed to be solved. Knock on the wood.

softapo7

softapo7 reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on Apr 24, 2010

This one is fast, faster than Chrome or Opera. Best thing out there.

fudgeworth

fudgeworth reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on Apr 23, 2010

Still has memory leak.

Try this:

Start fresh browser.

Crt-alt-del > Windows Task Manager> Processes> Firefox.exe (and plugin-container.exe)

Note memory usage.

Open 5 Youtube videos in seperate tabs. Play for a few minutes.

Close all tabs.

Note memory usage now.

Time to fix this fellas.

budzis

budzis reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2010

-> Uriel

Google Chrome is open source too.

Uriel

Uriel reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on Apr 21, 2010

The main problem concerning Google Chrome is that they have a lot of data about you. They do record everything. Forever. In many ways, the information they have paints a more complete picture of you than even your best friend would know about you. So if you forget when your friend's birthday or what their favorite color is, give Google a call. They will tell you. Firefox, on the other hand, is open sourced. Experience programmers check the code all the time and know it is safe.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.6.4 Beta 1 on Apr 20, 2010

On a 3+ year old system upgraded with a 1.5 year old processor, 4 GiB RAM, Firefox is using 90 MiB after 1 hour of use. I've visited about 60 sites, have 6 extensions installed, and have used it heavily. I use Firefox constantly. I wouldn't mind if it used 10x the memory it uses now. After all, *that is what memory is for.*

CPU wise I can't get it to crack 10% unless I load say a video on youtube. It then cracks about 30-40% in 1080p. Again, this is what I expect. I'm not running the latest and greatest hardware here, so I know it only gets better with better hardware.

I do have a concern with the new plugin-container process. I never had issues with plug-ins previously. Why would I want a process simply to monitor the behavior of the plug-in? If a plug-in crashes on a particular site, I simply no longer visit the site. My plug-ins are more important across all the sites I visit than the sites I visit. Thankfully I don't see crashes with plug-ins. I removed java years ago from my personal systems because it's simply too insecure and bloated. I am seriously considering removing Flash, because I do want to progress the standards-based ideals of html5. But for now it stays, lazy I suppose.
4.7 stars, rounded up to 5.

glassdesigns

glassdesigns reviewed v3.6.3 on Apr 6, 2010

I love this browser because I have it customized just the way I like it. Unfortunatly its performance just keeps getting slower. Due to the slow performance I find myself using Chrome more and more. Chrome might not have the extensions I have grown used to in FF, but this is a compromise I have been willing to accept in order to gain performance. Come on Mozilla, if Chrome can run smoothly, why can't FF. Two stars for you, for lack of keeping up with the compatition.

dotnetnightmare

dotnetnightmare reviewed v3.7 Alpha 3 on Apr 6, 2010

3.7a4 is the current alpha I am reviewing. The launch speed is dramatically improved and page rendering is fast! I used this in side by side comparison with chromium and F.F. was faster at loading web sites! I hate chrome {DISCLAIMER}. FF has a better visual appeal and those that use Windows 7 want an attractive interface. I have nightly tester plugin to force install omnibar and new glasser (SzymekPL version) and with Midnight Glass Aero 7 theme from DeviantArt, this is stunning. Speed, Performance, Appearance, Stability, from a browser that is aged and mature in development. Nothing is ever this good. Maybe they could develop my next wife.

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v3.6.3 on Apr 5, 2010

I stick with Firefox due to its plug-in community, and the 3.6 release FINALLY fixed a many year old packet protocol bug. It's memory usage infrastructure though has got to change. If you leave Firefox open for a few days, memory usage swells to 400 + meg causing sluggishness and stuttering in the browser. Opera on the other hand can sit for a week and rarely pass 20.

Meeky

Meeky reviewed v3.6.3 on Apr 4, 2010

Slow as molasses, memory leaks everywhere (as a test, go ahead and leave a tab open overnight and see the memory rise for no apparent reason), more crash prone than 3.5.x versions, etc.

Mozilla seems to be going backwards with their browser. Suffers from too many programmers and not enough quality control. When Chrome gets more polish and extensions, I'm dumping Firefox.

Oh and a tip: If you want a faster Firefox experience, try Pale Moon. It's like Firefox but for people whose computers are newer than their college bound children.

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.6.3 on Apr 2, 2010

If you havent taken the time to GOTO
Firefox Features page you should do and really have a good look around you may find out some things you had missed. Just yesterday I wanted to zoom in om a graph JPG and I though what was that pluggin I saw once... Today I went to the features page and found:
""""""""Quote""""""""""""""
Full Zoom
Visit your favorite news page and read the caption under the picture—or view the picture itself in a size you can see. An elegant new zoom feature lets you swoop in and see entire web pages. They scale in the way you’d expect them to, with all the elements of a page’s layout expanding equally, so you can zero in on what matters.
""""""""/quote"""""""""""""""
LOL its been there for a while now and I didn't even know D'oh!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 25, 2010

No memory issues, ever. uses about 100-200MiB typically, which is fine on systems with 2+ Gigs RAM. No other browser has the extensibility that Firefox, and trust me I try out the alternatives CONSTANTLY. I have given up on Opera until they get an extensible architecture like most decent browsers. MY INTERNET, MY WAY.

sammCA

sammCA reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 25, 2010

This 3.6.2 seems to have fixed a performance problem with alpha blending (background darkened) and temporarily overlayed DIV boxes/images.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 24, 2010

Finally Firefox starts normally. Now it takes 3-4 seconds, before it took 9-10. Menu does not freeze anymore. But it started to crash much more often. Nevertheless, looks like they fixed most of bugs in this version.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 24, 2010

No memory problems here. borisf98 with 70 extensions it of great wonderment to me how Firefox even manages to start up. Still can't make my mind up which I prefer either Opera or Firefox, I can't stand Chrome.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 24, 2010

I haven't seen any actual EVIDENCE of (a clean install, no add-ons) Firefox having a memory leak since the 2.x versions, just lots of supposition. Firefox 3.5+ actually performs VERY well compared to other browsers as far as memory usage if you normally keep more than a couple of tabs open.

Police your add-ons, police your add-on, police your add-ons. Can't say it enough.

Mozilla's busy working on multi-process/sandbox browsing as we speak. That should help the situation with poorly-coded add-ons, or at least make it a lot more transparent.

I like Chrome and Opera (especially Opera Mini) and even IE8, and I use them all daily, but I always come back to Firefox.

verdecove

verdecove reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 23, 2010

Memory problems. Leaks memory like I have never seen it before.
I close FF and if try to reopen it for another session and it tells me I need to close it first.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v3.6.2 on Mar 23, 2010

Ff leaks memory so badly that I had to install CleanMem, which is an excellent tool, but still, one shouldn't have to use a memory tool just to run a browser. Maybe it's some of the extensions I use which are the culprits. I don't know how to determine that, none the less, I can only give this a 4.

Then again, no browser that I know of today deserves a 5.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.7 Alpha 3 on Mar 21, 2010

5/5

ukexpat

ukexpat reviewed v3.7 Alpha 3 on Mar 18, 2010

Folks, it's an ALPHA, that's even earlier than a beta, so it is bound to be buggy and break extensions...jeez...

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.7 Alpha 3 on Mar 18, 2010

They win a prize for the a very buggy alpha
and they break alot of web sites
worst alpha ever!

stevvie

stevvie reviewed v3.7 Alpha 3 on Mar 17, 2010

ALPHA 3? but Alpha 4 is here already and it's the WORSE one yet. More and MORE addons are broken. There's more USELESS stuff being added and messed with EVERY time they do a nightly build. OHH and it's still MILES slower and Incompatible than Opera NOW. At this rate they will have almost none of the great addons working by the RC and thats what makes firefox great, The addons.

Kelson64

Kelson64 reviewed v3.7 Alpha 2 on Mar 3, 2010

Let's not forget that this an Alpha - and Firefox alphas have traditionally not been that good. This is especially true when compared to Opera's recent Alpha release, which blows Firefox's Alpha right out of the water.

Firefox is still going to have its dedicated users. There's no question that it is a good browser. The question is whether Firefox 3.7 will gain in the speed and stability areas. If they don't, this browser could be in some trouble. But as I said, this is an Alpha. It's too early to tell.

JeremyP

JeremyP reviewed v3.7 Alpha 2 on Mar 3, 2010

I'm on 3.6; changelog for this noted the plugging of many memory leaks, yet to my mind it is even worse; at times, with 6 or 7 tags I have gone well over half a gig, closing all but one, nothing is released. This is clearly a factor in slowing down Firefox; I am loth to use another browser as I like and am used to the interface.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v3.7 Alpha 2 on Mar 3, 2010

Mozilla may drag behind with regards to latest Opera but an opinion/review is wanted here on an Alpha which i find quite good on my OS!

Can't wait for final version!

stevvie

stevvie reviewed v3.7 Alpha 2 on Mar 2, 2010

This used to be the best browser by far. But the lately it's getting slower and more pages don't show correctly and more plugins don't work or don't work as they should. Plus Opera 10.5 has upped the game and is more compatible and FASTER by far than firefox, come on Mozilla

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.5.8 on Feb 27, 2010

It's really sad. I've used this browser for many years and it was definitely the best. Now I won't touch it. I call it the update a day browser. I get warnings from NOD32 when I try to install it. I can and do ignore Windows warning messages, but when I get warnings from NOD32, I pay attention.

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v3.5.8 on Feb 18, 2010

@JEDWARDP-

Quite right, it was do to Ghostery extension and I have removed that and all worked properly. But this was not evident in the beginning, it took a bit to find it but I did with the help of others on the Mozilla website. So Ghostery was removed and all works alright now. Just to say, some extensions are quite problematic at best, so all should be aware of that...

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v3.5.7 on Feb 14, 2010

When I experienced the problem described by reviewer LakotaElf, it was due entirely to a buggy extension (Ghostery, in my case), rather than with Firefox itself.

Otherwise, it has been, and continues to be, the best browser I've used on both Windows and Linux, and continues to best both IE and Opera.

Phat Esther

Phat Esther reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 12, 2010

Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.

213 20100208231821

500 Unknown command.

dwight_stegall

dwight_stegall reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 11, 2010

This is in responce to what someone said above about "What's the point? They announced 3.7 was dead."

During the releasing of FF 3.6 I talked with the head of Firefox on their IRC Channel (who's name escapes me at the moment) that 3.7 wasn't necessarily dead. He said they hadn't made any decision about what to do with it. Evidently they decided to proceed with it. :)

I like this Alpha2pre. It runs like a race car.

xkronite

xkronite reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 10, 2010

3.6 ? 3.7 ? 4.0 ? All I can say is thing FLIES !! Once you get past the few minor add-on "incompatibilities" it blows 3.6 away. In fact it appears even more compatible with previous add-on's than the switch from 3.5 to 3.6. A little User Agent tweaking here and a little force install there - and NO issues AT ALL ! Can't wait to see the final cut - Awesome job guys !

stevvie

stevvie reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 10, 2010

but Alpha 2 has been available a fewdays, so whats with the alpha1 links ?

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 10, 2010

Another one confused here. I too read just the other week they were going straight to 4.0 now, and 3.7 had been dropped.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 10, 2010

What's the point of this, they just announced that there would be no 3.7

some guy

some guy reviewed v3.7 Alpha 1 on Feb 10, 2010

first woot

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0.17 on Feb 9, 2010

The only truly functional version of Firefox. The 3.5 versions are are a joke, and not a funny one. I prefer to use it without addons which are the source of most of Firefox's problems. I'm waiting for a Firefox that has the necessary addons pre-loaded. If you want choice go to a candy store. I want a browser that works right from the box.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.6 on Feb 8, 2010

I am taking down all complains from earlier post. They were caused by buggy extensions and not by Firefox itself. However I want to add some more complains.

1)Firefox starting time is way too long. I have decent processor and memory RAM. So 6-10 seconds to open a program windows without loading first tab is almost unacceptable.

2)Many extensions conflict with each other. It is about time to force testing them for incompatibility.

3)Before installing extension, and I have about 70 of them, I want to know how much it will slow my browsing experience that I may be able to find alternative one that hogs less resources.

Still, I do not see myself quitting Firefox. IE does not have any extensions. Chrome reports 100% of what you do to Google. Opera looks ugly. I have left with hope that Mozilla will start making more than slight improvements that it has done so far.

Casper75

Casper75 reviewed v3.6 on Feb 4, 2010

It was somewhat hard for me to actually rate this but I have been a FF user for years & I've always looked forward to new releases of the browser only to be disappointed with it's speed & performance, There is also the problem of the memory leak issue which has been around for a long time & yet Mozilla has failed to address this issue. As for customisation Firefox dose do well with many add ons & themes available & that's the only reason why I'm giving it my rating.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v3.6 on Feb 2, 2010

What's up with Mozilla addons page? I can't reach it about 5 days for now. I can not install adblock plus from the official homepage as well.

nms04

nms04 reviewed v3.6 on Jan 24, 2010

better than 3.5 ... but i realy can't see the point to use ff as my primary browser ... way to slow (ever tried to invite up to 800 facebook friends to an event by using ff??? it's slow as hell!) ...
my browsers of choice
1. opera
2. chrome
3. ff
4. ie

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v3.6 on Jan 22, 2010

I'm still having a hard time being impressed with this browser. Firefox keeps releasing new versions of this program but with very few actual, visable, noticable advances in technology in them. I just don't see this program advancing much at all over the past eight months (from a usability standpoint), while its competitors appear to be advancing significan'tly. I STILL don't see anyone interating a screen capture feature the way Maxthon 2.x has been able to do now for well over a year. (Easily one of the most useful features ever built into a browser!) Why exactly should I be using FF religiously again? Somebody remind me. This program just feels dated relative to its competitors today.

catchpole

catchpole reviewed v3.6 on Jan 22, 2010

IE/Opera fanboys goin crazy

dhry

dhry reviewed v3.6 on Jan 22, 2010

Haha. Just in case you didn't know, "It Broke My Plugins" whiners, you can add extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6 and extensions.checkCompatibility in your config to force all plugins to load into any version, betas included. I use this and every beta and RC of FF 3.6 successfully loaded every single one of my 15-odd plugins, including OpenDownload. It definitely loads slow on my Core2Duo with a WD Black SATA drive, but for some reason with exactly the same plugins and version on a slower laptop, it loads in about 2 seconds instead of the ten it takes on the desktop. I'm still trying to make sense of that, but great browser nonetheless.

mdmower

mdmower reviewed v3.6 on Jan 21, 2010

Pros:
- Well recognized on the web, so almost all web pages render correctly (web devs actually make code allowances for Firefox to render correctly... yes even Firefox isn't perfect when it comes to standards interoperability).
- Too many add-ons to shake a stick at.
- Personas are a neat addition to make standard.
- Live bookmarks
- Content (blocking) policies for XUL devs

Cons:
- The browser is quite slow to load (with and without all add-ons disabled)
- Browser requires restart when add-ons are installed, updated, disabled, or enabled.
- Whole browser runs as a single process, so one bad website can cause a whole session to crash.

Other:
- To the user looking for a screen capture utility, try the FireShot add-on for Firefox.

FatBastard

FatBastard reviewed v3.6 on Jan 21, 2010

Internet Explorer is sooo twentieth century...

roj

roj reviewed v3.6 on Jan 21, 2010

Holy Crap!

It didn't break a single one of my nine plugins, including the Black Stratini skin (I like my FF to be as much like IE in appearance and functionality as npossible without the drawbacks).

Be Still My Pounding Petunia Patch!

EDIT:

It killed two extensions.

TWO stars for the same old half-azzed BS.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.6 RC2 on Jan 21, 2010

Other than the google sharing xpi. & the user agent switcher xpi (iphone 3.0), Opera blows ff away. I like opera cause it allows for site specific preferences. With FF, it's all or nothing. Plus FF portable uses tons of resources just sitting open on a blank page.
Personas (one-click skin changer) for FF is nice too. Too bad it can't compete with opera. Just wish I could get the google sharing xpi to work for opera. I switched from google to yabigo (yahoo, bing, google) search. FF has it's uses. Too bad they are so few. Oh yeah, all my (3) addons broke in 36rc2 so still at 357 portable

Jen Smith

Jen Smith reviewed v3.6 RC2 on Jan 18, 2010

Noticeably smoother performance over 3.5. Seems pretty solid, been using 3.6 since beta and have yet to have any issues with it. No compatibility issues with any of the addons that I'm using. Still fairly weak with Windows 7 integration though, but not a critical issue for me. For me, still the best and most flexible browser out there.

taxis

taxis reviewed v3.6 RC2 on Jan 18, 2010

Pro:
- stable
- open source
- user-friendly
- reasonably efficient (slower than Chrome, but faster than IE)
- add-on concept allows individual trade-offs of simplicity and functionality

Contra:
- no preconfiguration for high privacy (e.g. preconfigured to send data to Google to obtain automatic search suggestions), no help for the technically naive user on privacy threats and settings related to privacy
- misleading advertisement (suggesting you don't have to worry about security once you switch to Firefox, "100% Bio" ads in German language)
- compatibility of add-ons with newer versions not yet solved

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.6 RC1 on Jan 15, 2010

There's just no compelling reason to run Firefox in Windows. Setup and configuration time is a huge negative. Addons, addons, I don't need no stinking addons.

The people who write Firefox seem to have no idea about what people use a browser for anyway.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v3.6 RC1 on Jan 11, 2010

Much better than beta 5, which was very crashy. This one seems far more solid. Now all we have to do is wait another couple of months for all our personal favourite addons to be properly updated. Addons. Firefox's greatest strength and its greatest weakness.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.6 RC1 on Jan 8, 2010

When I'm browsing on a netbook or an older or underpowered notebook or other mobile device, I prefer Chrome. Hands down. When I'm browsing on a modern desktop or desktop replacement laptop, I prefer Firefox. Hands down.

When using contemporary mid-to-high end hardware, (almost) every browser out there renders most pages near enough to instantly that the benchmark performance of individual browser versions really only matters to geeks and dedicated webapp users. There are exceptions, of course, although I can't imagine they're all that widespread.

I like the improvements they've made to 3.6, which I've already detailed in my reviews of earlier builds. But the Windows 7 jump list support as well as tab thumbnail previews are still GLARINGLY absent from this release candidate. Mozilla really have fallen behind their competition in this regard, and I know the architecture supports these features because I've seen them tested in nightly builds. So if these features don't make it to the already-delayed 3.6 release, I'll begin to have serious concerns about whether or not the Mozilla team can keep up with the rapid-fire pace of browser development these days.

I know they're working on a complete revamp of the interface, but they've had almost a year to get jump lists and tab previews working for Aero. Because of this, excuses would only wear paper thin at this point. They need to get some features that are tangible to the AVERAGE end user out the damned door or they're going to be perceived to be treading water no matter how many improvements they make under the hood.

Anyway, performance is good, features (aside from the glaring exceptions above) are top-of-class, extensibility is second to none, and integration with/support for major web sites and enterprise services is second only to Internet Explorer.

And while Chrome has many of the extensions made popular with Firefox, the plugin back-end of Chrome simply isn't powerful enough (yet) to implement some of the more advanced capabilities offered by Firefox plugins like NoScript, which still make Firefox the most secure browser in the world when used properly.

Still the best all-around browser unless performance is a major concern. Hopefully I'll be able to give the final release a 5. I was expecting just a bit more from this RC.

CobraPL

CobraPL reviewed v3.6 RC1 on Jan 8, 2010

"Very advanced" and "better" Opera 10.50 fails, as always, to handle correctly Country Story game on Facebook. FF and IE8 work ok. So, simply, Opera does not handle all webpages correctly - especially if flash is on them.

WhiteZero

WhiteZero reviewed v3.0.17 on Jan 6, 2010

It's 3.5.7, not .17

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v3.5.7 on Jan 6, 2010

I have no idea why Firefox does this, but the problem I have with it, is when I close it down, it does not close at all. I have to shut it off via the task manager. Most generally I will have to do this 3 times out of 5 or others things like ccleaner will not clean it out, thinks it is open yet and it is. This seems like a simple thing to fix, however, I am no expert, but it is becoming now a annoyance as it has been going on for several update they have made. Anyone have any idea why?

This is the only browser that I have experienced this phenomena with.

So I can only give it a three star rating. I am not sure it even deserves that, but I do like Firefox. I must say, Flock browser is looking good these days.

maddy143ded

maddy143ded reviewed v3.5.7 on Jan 5, 2010

i have been using FF lately, but only to play mafia wars or other zynga games. as most of my extentions require grease monkey. nothing else works.
other then that my numberone browser is opera. i have about 10-15 tabs open in opera at any moment, and never have i seen it hang or crash due to that. firefox/ I.E. and even chrome use similar resources to just open one or two tabs vs. operas 10 or more tabs. i just wish that opera had better Flash and other media integration then i would remove all other crap orm my desktop.
i have been using opera since 2000 and i will probably use till 2020. and more.
how people can keep praising Firefox or chrome as fastest is beyond me. i have a 512k dsl connection, and most of the time i receive around 55kbps dl speed for torrent and all. in this net scenario when i open my opera with all its tabs (usually not less then 10) it not more then 40 - 50 secs to open all of them . and as for tabbed browsing opera had tabbed browsing even when there was no Firefox.
enough about opera. its after all the best.
Firefox 3.5.6 was the slower then 3.5.5 so will see if 3.5.7 has any improvements. other then that its actually a hassle to find and install all those add ons to just make the browser work as i want it to. if we all had so much time it would be better to design our own browser. why cant the designers of FF build it in such a way that it actually i don't have to install a add on if i want the FF optimized and use less resources. i mean if they can build a browser surely they can add the same optimizations done by Firefox optimizer?

Zero-Point

Zero-Point reviewed v3.5.7 on Jan 5, 2010

Midnite12, let's not get ahead of ourselves--Firefox has NEVER crashed for you, AND you've been using it since day ONE?!

In any case, I find it amusing how barebones Firefox is; you really need an addon for every feature. Case: you need an addon to give it performance. They might as well have kept it at Phoenix v0.2 (I can't remember exactly which I started using it at, 0.2 or 0.3, maybe 0.1). That really was barebones, although it was zippy--out of the box.

I don't use Firefox as my primary browser (Opera), but I keep it around for rare circumstances where Opera fumbles. I am using it less and less by just going to those sites with IE, though. My main reason: addon management. If I am not going to really gain any features without addons I might as well use something already installed and widely available.

biggman15

biggman15 reviewed v3.5.7 on Jan 5, 2010

@Aegis69
Wow! that really helped! Thank you!
My firefox has been running sluggish lately, and I think you just saved me from having to do a clean install!

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v3.5.7 on Jan 5, 2010

For those of you complaining about Firefox speed, startup or whatever, try this addon;

https://addons.mozilla.o...-US/firefox/addon/11198

Check the 2 boxes, and hit the button, Its automatic after that.

How a $50million a year company could have missed this simple optimization is beyond me.

alexdalarge

alexdalarge reviewed v3.5.7 on Jan 5, 2010

Firefox is so slow now a days I don't bother using it. The only good thing it ever had was extensions, now Chrome has got them I don't think I need to open Firefox again. If you want to test betas try Opera 10.5..
Fastest browser about. Unstable at the moment, still don't crash as often as Firefox though.
I won't be downloading this or updating Firefox..
Firefox is the new IE.. Everyone and their gran is using it.

@ Midnite12 Firefox isn't the fastest, Opera 10.5 is. Do your research. As for the most secure, I'm ROFL. Try looking up Secunia browser vulnerabilities and then say that xD

MikeTechno

MikeTechno reviewed v3.6 Beta 5 on Dec 30, 2009

Firefox is falling farther and farther behind now every week it seems. With Opera now out with their very advanced 10.50 pre-beta release and Google Chrome continuously moving forward all the time, Firefox has a long way to go to catch up. I'm even using the pre-beta release of Firefox 3.7a1 and there is nothing in there that even comes close to what Google and Opera are doing already. Not sure why Firefox has fallen so far behind but unless they start paying attention to what the competition is going and make some effort to answer their advancements, they are going to be left in the dust.

Alpha258

Alpha258 reviewed v3.6 Beta 5 on Dec 21, 2009

I have been using Chrome for a good while but I still have to come back to using FF because it is a smarter browser. While Chrome is fast, its still a bit like a top athlete that had no real education.

When designing websites putting localhost in the address bar of Chrome make it foolishly do a Google search for localhost when FF does the right thing and bring up my Xampp menu. Chrome portable has since been deleted from my usb memory stick and FF has earned its place.

MichaelDHam

MichaelDHam reviewed v3.6 Beta 5 on Dec 20, 2009

I know it is still in beta and as for what I use Firefox for it WILL NOT load game on my Facebook account as the 3.0 still ...also 3.5 version got to get worse in it's regenerations that went forward. I like Firefox and will keep trying these beta's till they I hope get it right..it is speedy and that is good..when they get the loading of games from freezing up...then I will go back to it ...if not...will have to try others and yes..even IE whatever version it is...for a more permanent browser.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v3.6 Beta 5 on Dec 18, 2009

working great here too. swicthed back from Opera. this beta version seems much better than beta 4. its fast.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.6 Beta 5 on Dec 18, 2009

Yeah this version is working great.

FF-->Chrome-->FF. I go back and forth. Two great browsers.

Midnite12

Midnite12 reviewed v3.5.6 on Dec 15, 2009

As of today, 3.5.6 is still Beta, but should be final by tomorrow or soon after. I fail to understand why some of you state that FF crashes, since I have never, ever experienced that and I've been using FF since day one!!
Perhaps something in your Windows settings is causing that.As for the Ad ons, only use the important ones and that will keep FF lean. Want to reduce the amount of system resources FF uses, install Firefox Ultimate Optimizer and see the difference.
This is still the best, fastest, most secure and reliable Browser available, bar none!!

the_root

the_root reviewed v3.5.6 on Dec 15, 2009

This is still a Beta.

MichaelDHam

MichaelDHam reviewed v3.6 Beta 4 on Nov 30, 2009

The 1st time I used it on Facebook, especially in games online it froze up and still does. Also rendered the wheel on my mouse to be useless when scrolling. Other than that, it's speed was really nice. Hope Mozilla patches this one soon. I really like Firefox, just not this one "yet"...yes I know it is BETA.

4122

4122 reviewed v3.6 Beta 4 on Nov 30, 2009

UPDATE TO BELOW: GreaseMonkey was just updated to work with 3.6. Upping my rating to a 5. I'll be back later to adjust if necessary.

Great piece of software. I'd be using it now except GreaseMonkey doesn't work right even with tweaks thus one star deduction from the rating.

Everyone should quit using Nightly Tester Tools & start using Addon Compatibility Reporter. It provided functionality to report back to the Mozilla team which add-ons are working & which ones aren't.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.6 Beta 4 on Nov 30, 2009

Would be great if greasemonkey worked. And yeeeeeeeeeeeeaah I mean without the tester tools or extension tweaks.....

xsnred

xsnred reviewed v3.6 Beta 3 on Nov 18, 2009

Here is the definition for Beta for those who complain that this kind of software is crap.

Preliminary or testing stage of a software or hardware product.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v3.6 Beta 3 on Nov 18, 2009

With "Nightly Tester Tools" add-on, all of mine work just fine.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.6 Beta 3 on Nov 18, 2009

This beta:
- Started in safe mode the second time I launched it.

dhry

dhry reviewed v3.6 Beta 3 on Nov 18, 2009

This build of beta 3 disabled almost ALL my addons, despite the fact that I set extensions.checkCompatibility to false. Not good. Went back to beta2 (which seems pretty stable)

I agree with previous reviewer; I'm a new convert to Firefox Preloader. Thanks for the tip!

Edit: Installed "Nightly Tester Tools" addon. Restarted FF build 2. Upgraded to build 3 from within FF. Restart. Addons disabled once again. This build is BROKEN. Going back to build 2 until they fix it.

Edit 2: For those interested, I got the following solution from a developer, which worked. "The preference has changed so that it only applies to a specific application version. You would need to set extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6b to false to disable compatibility checking for the Firefox 3.6 betas. Alternatively, you can install the Add-on Compatibility Reporter[1] extension which will set the preference
for you and also allow you to report incompatibility to the add-on author. See http://kb.mozillazine.or...ompatibility#Background for examples of preference names for other versions."

Upgrading to 5 stars again.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 16, 2009

I love FF, but this is the worst version that I have ever used. It crashes, and is slow. After closing my tabs, I closed the browser and when I reopened FF, it opened all of my tabs back, each in a new window. Come on people, this is getting to be to much. I will go back to 3.0.15.

us3r

us3r reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 16, 2009

Firefox is getting worse and worse every release. Even normal web browsing is getting painfully slow with the latest releases. I like the extensions and all the customization stuff, but this fk turtle is too fk slow to browse the web. Even Internet Explorer is better on that field.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 13, 2009

By attempting to be all things to all people Firefox has become nothing to anyone. The last version, 3.54, crashed my system. They desperately need to make this browser leaner and meaner. That means eliminating many of the addons.

I'm currently using Seamonkey which has fewer choices, but is very fast and much easier to use. They have eliminated Turbo and that was an excellent choice.

Galifray

Galifray reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 11, 2009

After years of using Firefox, I left it behind when Safari and then Google Chrome came out. I am mentioning that so you understand my point of view. I decided to try Firefox 3.6 beta 2 and to see for myself if my issues with Firefox had been solved.
The verdict, no, my issues since 3.0 have not been solved. They are, in fact, worse. I don't need nor want a corporation to be my nanny telling me where I can or cannot go and what extensions I can or cannot install into the browser.
Sure, many won't mind or may like having their hands held, but not me.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 11, 2009

If you install Firefox Preloader it will start up faster than any other program !
it takes a half of a second to start on my computer now....

starts up slower is a thing of the past

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 11, 2009

"Prospero424:
If you're running the 3.6 beta 1, you will be automatically updated to beta 2 and for subsequent releases after that. If you're running the 3.5.5 stable version, you will be automatically updated to the 3.6 final once it's finished.

I honestly don't understand how this could confuse anyone."

Perhaps because Mozilla has never "automatically updated" people to new point revisions previously? There was no automated upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0 or 3.0 to 3.5, the user has always had to manually install it or request it on prompt. The only automated installs have been 3.0.x or 3.5.x

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 11, 2009

5/5

@ Blaxima - dont forget that Firefox in OPEN SOURCE !!!
thats why you see ALL bugs...
you will never experience this in Opera or IE... because they are CLOSE SOURCE... and you even dont know kow many bugs was there...

thats why you argument is invalid...
but you probably not understand because you are Opera fanatic fanboy...

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 10, 2009

If you're running the 3.6 beta 1, you will be automatically updated to beta 2 and for subsequent releases after that. If you're running the 3.5.5 stable version, you will be automatically updated to the 3.6 final once it's finished.

I honestly don't understand how this could confuse anyone.

(mjm01010101: Mozilla does indeed automatically update to point releases, just not immediately. They give corporations and other controlled environments a good long while to migrate first before they basically "end of life" the old point release by pushing out the new one. If you were still running a 2.x version, for example, you would indeed be prompted by the automatic updater to migrate to 3.5.x at least once. Mozilla is planning on releasing 3.6 as an automatic update to 3.5.x immediately upon release (as they do for minor releases) because there are no major interface or architecture changes. FYI...)

Firefox has the most vulnerabilities REPORTED most of the time simply because it's the most actively developed open-source browser out there. Believe it or not, this is a good thing. Heck, the guy who ran the study being quoted even said he runs Firefox personally and that there's no reason to switch or to consider Firefox "less secure" than other browsers.

Besides, if you run Firefox with NoScript, you're far safer than you would be with ANY other browser. I'm not aware of any other browser that lets you control scripting and code execution privileges on a per-site basis like it does. Highly recommended.

Anyway, the Beta 2 seems to have fixed a couple of little bugs I noticed with Beta 1, including a really annoying one where the Firefox window would just disappear completely on startup unless you were opening Firefox maximized. Also, the Windows 7 taskbar thumbnail previews for open tabs seems to work much better now.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.6 Beta 2 on Nov 10, 2009

Why does FF keep getting a separate download for each release while all other programs just get updated?

Well someone said I was making things up in regards to my complaints towards this over hyped piece of steaming tripe. So then I offer this http://www.computerworld..._44_of_all_browser_bugs

jendal

jendal reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 6, 2009

Firefox 5/5
Internet Explorer 2/5
Chrome 5/5
Opera: 3/5

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 6, 2009

@ Blaxima - a looser you are...
or simply Opera troll, giving 5/5 for Opera and only 1/5 for Fx, funny...

Opera is slower than Fx and use more ram... Chromium now is the fastest and Opera is only faster than IE...
stop f**ging about it, its true...
look test etc, even betanews have it...
http://dotnetperls.com/chrome-memory
http://arstechnica.com/o...y-than-ie-and-opera.ars
http://avencius.nl/conte...-opera-950-memory-usage

Fx like Opera or even Chromium is the same secure...

but whatever I will told you you will still give 1/5, because you are Opera fanboy...

@ roj - so report bug on bugzilla, lulz...

KayNine

KayNine reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 6, 2009

Well... I used Opera even before it was free, and I think I'll always will. But occassionly I also fire up Firefox, as well as Safari. I'd say: if it's not Internet Explorer, it's a good browser. Well... Chrome is a different chapter... I haven't decided yet wether it is to be trusted or not. Still I gave it a try and am not convinced at all by it's usability.

But for the other three (FF, Opera, Safari): they are good and on par, every one has it's advantages and disadvantages, we're not living in a perfect world. Choose by your liking, but rate fair!

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 6, 2009

So far I haven't seen the usual obnoxious Opera fanboys who basically come here just to rate down Firefox provide a SINGLE piece of evidence that shows Opera is faster and/or more resource efficient. None. They haven't even bothered to make up the usual sort of travesty of a weighted benchmark. They must be getting desperate.

You guys know that you CAN prefer one browser and still admit that another is good, right? These are web browsers, not football teams.

Anyway, actual benchmarks performed by neutral parties have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Firefox's resource usage is on par with all of the other major browsers, even though this wasn't always the case; Firefox version 2.x was a PIG. They have also shown that it's about in the middle of the pack as far as performance - below Safari and Chrome but ahead of Opera and Internet Exploder. I'm not just talking about Betanews' own browser benchmarks, I'm talking about pretty much EVERYBODY'S benchmarks. You can dismiss people who actually, you know, recognize reality all you want, but it won't change the facts, especially when you provide no evidence at all other then your personal convictions to bash this browser.

I use Chrome, IE8, and Opera (under Unix) on a daily basis, but Firefox is and will probably remain for the foreseeable future my mainline browser simply because I have more control over its capabilities and because it is so widely supported by software and internet services. While I like these other browsers (yes, even IE8), I find myself missing features/add-ons of Firefox when using them and switching between one of them and FF out of convenience or frustration.

But really, I don't even feel I need to convince anyone. The fact is that it's pretty darned easy to distinguish between the usual sort of measured reviews mixed with constructive criticism and the spittle-flecked rantings of single-browser fundamentalists who seem far, far less interested in actually reviewing software than they are in territorial urinating.

roj

roj reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 5, 2009

Crashes sporadically when closing with multiple tabs open, Dumbazz error - typical "memory at xxx cannot be read" even after clearing all cookies.

Can you say "3.5.6"? Yes, boyz and girlz, I knew you could.

ONE star for poor QA.

madmike

madmike reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 5, 2009

Troll my a rse ,lol well you cant knock firefox too much, it got people away from IE - which is a good thing. This updates doesnt seem better or worse, but I thing the future for F/Fox looks a tad shaky as Chrome - The B`stad child of Google is gathering pace.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 5, 2009

404: Page not found after installed.
Firefox: we'll update you, it may not be a quality update, but we'll update you anyways.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 5, 2009

Fact- Blaxima is a troll. If u took the time to test this browser for real, not just spewing ur bs, You would see its one if not the best browsers out there.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.5.5 on Nov 5, 2009

My testing and overall impression still remains the same as it always has and that's in spite of all the (false)claims and rhetoric FF is resource heavy, slow and not feature rich. The plug-ins are still great but I credit the community for making them and thats only because FF lacks those features out of the box. Honestly, FF is the Apple of browsers, all hype but in reality tripe.

If people would actually give some of the others a REAL chance you would see how this piece hampers your browsing experience. IE is not what it once was, Chrome is a snappy bare-bones browser and Opera is a feature rich one.

In the end all the rhetoric does is hurt people who cheat themselves of something better thanks to their blind brand faith.

EDIT @Sven123456789, you mean the way you did with Chrome, Norton, VLC, etc.? Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.6 Beta 1 on Nov 1, 2009

For whatever reason, the actual Firefox interface (in Windows, at least) in version 3.5 - window and tab management and the responsiveness of buttons, etc. - always seemed a lot slower than 3.0 even if the underlying rendering engines were faster. This was true on every machine I tried it on be it a slightly aged Athlon X2 Windows XP system, an obsolete Pentium 4 system, or a brand new quad-core beast running Win7 x64.

This 3.6 Beta seems to have not only fixed that, but to have improved the responsiveness notably even over version 3 and the older 2.x versions AND the rendering engines have been improved. Sure, it still starts up slower than the competition, but that's a price I'm willing to pay for the extra features I rely on. It's more than fast enough on my modern machines, and resource usage is comparable to the most highly-regarded competition, now.

Some of my add-ons have been updated, most haven't. But that was easily fixed by just installing the Nightly Tester Tools add-on and clicking on "Override all compatibility" to disable the version check. Update: Mozilla has released their own extension called "Add-on Compatibility Reporter" that offers this same functionality (enabling extensions that haven't been updated for new versions) along with automating the problem reporting process for individual add-ons. Great idea, and it seems to work fine.

The interface improvements they added for Windows 7 will be nice when complete, but they still need a little work before 3.6 is ready for a final release. For instance: most of the time the thumbnails of the tabs that are supposed to pop up from the Windows 7 taskbar when hovering over the Firefox icon degenerate into blank placeholders after a few minutes of activity, and Firefox has to be restarted to get the true thumbnails of your open tabs back. The ctrl-tab tab switching mechanism seems to work flawlessly when enabled in about:config, though.

Also, the new mechanism for updating the user about out-of-date plugins (rather than just add-ons) is something that has been sorely needed, and something that the other major browsers need to get on top of. Mozilla's back end for this functionality is going to take some time to develop, though. There's a lot of popular plugins that they don't track yet.

Bart Welson

Bart Welson reviewed v3.6 Beta 1 on Oct 30, 2009

Same s*** in a different bottle.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.0.15 on Oct 29, 2009

I still use it.......
3.5 does not work with my computer

smarterthanyou

smarterthanyou reviewed v3.0.15 on Oct 28, 2009

Why is this version of Firefox still being developed? Considering Firefox is used by very few businesses and is used mostly for personal use there is no reason to continue to fix bugs once a new version (like 3.5 or 3.6 for example) comes out. Firefox is the best web browser ever invented, but three stars for an useless update.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.6 Alpha 1 on Oct 28, 2009

5/5...
but stlll waiting for speed improvement, especially startup & AJAX & CSS

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5.4 on Oct 28, 2009

hedley = typical operaf** troll

some guy

some guy reviewed v3.5.4 on Oct 27, 2009

funny you said that I just tried to log in with fire fox 3.5 under linux Ubuntu 9.04 and it FAILED to allow me to put my user and pass word in. The only reason I use Fire Fox is because of the twits at Opera still don't get the concept of adblock+ if they would put such a system in Opera my mind would be made up. I find Opera to be more stable on most site's like Digg.com and so on. No fan boy here he who makes the better browser wins...

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v3.5.4 on Oct 27, 2009

@hedley...wow way to nitpick!

Opera certainly has a LOT more issues than you can shake a stick at...

As usual stable, fast and all the add-ons you'll ever need. Can't wait for version 3.6.

hedley

hedley reviewed v3.5.4 on Oct 27, 2009

First load after upgrade is slow for all browsers.

well i dont have this kind of problem in Opera Browser

gundamboyzack

gundamboyzack reviewed v3.5.4 on Oct 27, 2009

The download is for 3.5.4 Beta 3...
Once again we jump the gun.

wyldman

wyldman reviewed v3.5.3 on Sep 10, 2009

First load after upgrade is slow for all browsers.
Firefox always rocks.

And yes I use several other browsers.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v3.5.3 on Sep 10, 2009

True Love. Remember that movie with Grace Kelly and Bing Crosby? I accept the laughs for the comparison, but more I live with Firefox, more I love. Some softwares are like that, not only you don't get fed up, but you actually appreciate them more and more. Firefox is a fantastic browser, providing freedom, security, quality, speed. Firefox must certainly love ma as well!

TomWibbaert

TomWibbaert reviewed v3.5.3 on Sep 9, 2009

I wonder what it all needs to take a full half a minute on its first load.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5.3 on Sep 9, 2009

If you don't like Firefox, why are you continually using it?

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 25, 2009

@ Sephiroth... - Fx is now faster and uses less memory than Opera...
http://dotnetperls.com/chrome-memory
http://arstechnica.com/o...y-than-ie-and-opera.ars
http://avencius.nl/conte...-opera-950-memory-usage

and who cares about passing Acid3... its only static benchmark like 3DMark...

and you are Operaf** like I can see, because giving 1...
nice fanboy we got here...

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 25, 2009

Why FF its so slow in the last release?, old version work fine but not anymore. And when FF will pass Acid3?

@Virtual_ManPL: I not fan of anything, I use FF until the last version that work really slow in my machine, and not say anything about Opera in this comment, you did this, if you can't tolerate one star, screw you! I tell the true.

GerritWittesaele

GerritWittesaele reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 24, 2009

3.5.2 is a huge step forward regarding resposiveness, but still
it suffers from the royal pain in the a** Adobe.

Crusader

Crusader reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 20, 2009

Each new version is better. Very fast and easy to use. Great navigator.

nugro

nugro reviewed v3.6 Alpha 1 on Aug 11, 2009

greasemonkey doesn't work :( but expected of an alpha, no hiccup so far.
excellent piece of software, deserve 5 stars but i still prefer Opera.
now just where is the cosmestic change?

@Sven123456789
enable smooth scrolling on advanced option, d'oh

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.6 Alpha 1 on Aug 10, 2009

Seems just a bit quicker than 3.5 in Windows 7 on my system. Also, it fixes the only real complaint I had about 3.5, which was the lack of responsiveness of toolbar buttons during heavy I/O activity. Really annoying...

Once my plugins are updated for 3.6, I'm going to make the switch whether it's released as final or not.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.6 Alpha 1 on Aug 10, 2009

So far so good. Used this for a few hours. Adblock worked, so thats always an important add on to have. If i have one minor gripe, the scrolling on a webpage using ur mouse seems a little touchy in this version.

commander2001

commander2001 reviewed v3.6 Alpha 1 on Aug 10, 2009

runs nice and fast love it so far

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 5, 2009

Just keeps getting better and better.

elitegangsta

elitegangsta reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 4, 2009

Been working excellent as always from Mozilla on my systems at both home and office. Windows Vista, 7, and XP tested. Highly recommend and have found nothing to complain about yet.

Fast, stable, light, clean, simple to use, renders pages excellent, customizable, fairly secure. What else is there to want?

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 4, 2009

This review is for the portable version 352. Minimized or open it uses ~ 70MB. I was not impressed with the dailymotion video At All. Quality was not even as good as utube. I use ff portable only for the torbrowser. K-meleon ccfme 096.3 blows ff away with half the mem usage and half that when minimized, & k-meleonccfme is portable by default. Also there was no way to block flash in ff port which in k-meleon I block by default.
Very nice browser but just a tad bloated? K's not perf but works well for the most part.
Efficiency will always win.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5.2 on Aug 4, 2009

3.5.x had had a few serious bugs in it. It was the first time FF had crashed on me in a long time, and I also got "Firefox is still running now quite a bit."

Strange because I ran the RC's for ~5 months without issue.

This is sad. Don't tell me to rebuild my profile. I worked hard to get my profile where it is today.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.5.1 on Jul 30, 2009

I'm using this as my default browser. It's the first time I've done so. Very fast and easy to configure.

us3r

us3r reviewed v3.5.1 on Jul 28, 2009

This browser is so slow. If not the add-ons I would switch to other browser long time ago. Firefox 3.5.1 has terrible performance on Windows XP. It runs a little better on Win 7 but not that much. I'll try Chrome 3 for some time. If it proves stable and functional enough I will switch for good. I just can't stand the slowness of Firefox anymore.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5.1 on Jul 22, 2009

@ ailef - for me update works...

roj

roj reviewed v3.0.12 on Jul 21, 2009

Having used 3.5x, I can say that this version has a HUGE bug where sites that are interactive (such as online ordering sites, banking sites or art galleries) time out and drop connections CONSTANTLY. 3.51 does not exhibit this extremely annoying behavior.

My advice:

Get off this broken platform and upgrade.

NOW.

THREE stars for a product that I didn't realize was as defective as it is until I experienced an alternative from the same devs.

ailef

ailef reviewed v3.5.1 on Jul 18, 2009

hey firefox people ! it's when you want to fix the update for vista x64 !
always the same thing, the update never stop trying update but is not able to, when will u fix that ? in 10 years ??

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.5.1 on Jul 16, 2009

Mozilla to release urgent 'chemspill' Firefox update next week

View the release notes

Description of Release

This is a chemspill release which will address a critical bug found in Firefox 3.5. We are taking a few ride-along fixes as well.
Specific Plan for 3.5.1

We need to verify bug fixes, especially the fix for the bug that prompted this release bug 503286. In addition we will go through the usual checks for our maintenance releases: smoketests, basic functional tests, l10n spot checks, and updates checks.

Test Results

* Verifications: nearly all completed
* Smoketests and BFTs: PASS
* l10n Spot Checks: PASS
* Updates: Pass(beta)
Thanks for helping us beta test Firefox 3.5.1

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v3.5.1 on Jul 16, 2009

Pros: Rock Solid, Lightning fast (250% faster than 3.0 version), tracemonkey engine executes JavaScript fast as well, Private Browsing is awesome, tons of great new features and more granularity in privacy cleaning and the list goes on of all the excellent features.

Cons, Conflict with steam, Tracemonkey engine exploit (3.51 fixes this)

Jtaylor83

Jtaylor83 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 12, 2009

3.5 is a pain in the butt. New changes to the tools menu which it sucks: Clear browsing history to Clear Recent History and the new private browsing which I'm about to test it.

Firefox is not a resource hog, it's buggy and it's junkware. I don't like the new features. Email Mozilla and tell them to change it back or else you'll switch back to IE8.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 12, 2009

It's not so good as it was expected. A bit faster than 3.0.11, but not as fast as was announced. Slow start up time. Page rendering is at the top as always. But speed? Opera is still in beta, but it's much faster. i think, the final version of Opera will beat the Firefox in all aspects. Using both - FF (as default browser) and Opera.

starwars97

starwars97 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 10, 2009

Firefox is so wrost ever! Internet Explorer 8 rules!

alshawwa

alshawwa reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 8, 2009

still the best " in my opinion" , you cant judge who is better than who if you cant feel the deference , on my machines , firefox outperforms the others " chrome safari IE 8 and opera" i dont do benchmarking , but its based on the websites that i frequently visit , with firefox they render faster load faster and its doesnt crash.

Ozon

Ozon reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 4, 2009

Sure is fanboy in here. I have to laugh at the benchmarks vs. real usage. Sure, the benchmarks makes it look fast but that's on vanilla Firefox and we all know damn well nobody uses vanilla Firefox. How about they add the top 5 or 10 addons to see the real world difference? Firefox hogs memory, hogs CPU, the tear away tabs idea were taken from Chrome and Opera and implimented in a clucky way and worse of all, you can't turn it off, Flash makes the browser crawl to a standstill, auto detect unicode encoding sucks and throws up blocks even when you have the necessary fonts installed, the Find As You Type feature on the Firefox site has a screen shot of the Next and Previous buttons and when you actually use it, it's some crappy bar with no features except the text field, etc.

Look, this browser is good but don't just ignore some of its shortcomings just because you happen to use it. That's just plain dumb.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 3, 2009

Hmm, no changes compared to RC3...
but still for me the best browser...

customizable with addons is AWESOME !!! xD

P.S. Why ppl still taking about memory problems...
Firefox have the BEST memory optimization (finally...), based on tests and my experience...

2GB is STANDARD in todays PC, tomorrow will be 4-8GB...
who cares when other browser can eat 50MB memory lower...

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 2, 2009

I hate to do this but so far I have lost all my Gmail passwords and two other passwords for forums I visit as a result of updating to 3.5. I strongly suggest that any one updating from a 3.0x version use the Password Exporter 1.1 or copy down all of your important passwords before updating. In fact I wish I had backed up my profile. I know better and yet I did not simply copy the profile to a safe place. My fault.

I am voting 3/5 because I believe caution is needed with this update and perhaps a lower rating will help make that point.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 1, 2009

Well I don't see any change in this "final" from the last RC which means yet again in my testing this uses far more memory and more importantly higher cpu load (as the image in my last post shows). Honestly, it has always and still does feel pretty sluggish to use.

@ Aegis69-
It's funny you should quote half of my sentence and exclaim that I shouldn't add useless posts because a simple click on your name shows nothing but your spamming of the other browsers with (once again) assertions they use massive amounts of memory (neglecting cpu load) through no tests of your own. I don't know about you but I use my computer and not one in some test lab so the results I get matter to me most (hence my "useless post earlier).

It's easy to see when school is out for the summer but Aegis69 my friend, you've still got a lot to learn.

@Virtual_manPL-
You were tasteful in your response but just to let you know, a portable version is not a modified version. All that is done is an exe is created basically by copying some regestry keys and that exe runs along side the unmodified program and creates a profile folder locally (ie a usb stick). Therefor the problems that are expressed are issues with the core not the portable exe. Since I use Opera Portable it was only fair to compare it to Portable Firefox.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 1, 2009

The memory usage issue is kinda silly, because by any measure out there Firefox no longer uses EXCESSIVE amounts of memory unless there's a serious problem.

But I may as well report my own results. I compared memory usage on my Windows 7 x64 install with a fresh install of Opera 9.64, Safari 4.530.17.0, and Chrome 3.0.189.0. I opened up 12 tabs from the most common sites I visit (I usually have about 8-15 tabs open, so I settled on an even dozen). These sites include a couple of heavy flash sites (YouTube and Last.fm), a couple of text-heavy sites (long threads on forums like Fark and technical forums), a couple of commerce sites (like Newegg and Amazon), a couple of news sites (like Ars Technica and CNN) and a couple of software download sites (BetaNews and Download.com)

Firefox 3.5 Final - 139,444KB
Opera 9.64 Final - 160,732KB
Google Chrome 3.0.189.0 - 258,556KB
Safari 4.530.17.0 - 154,252KB

But here's the kicker: this was with SEVENTEEN extensions and TWELVE plugins installed in Firefox 3.5: Personas, Weave Sync, and a bunch of some of the most popular extensions and plugins.

And Firefox still runs faster than Opera, though a bit slower than Safari and Chrome, though Opera, Safari and Chrome do start up MUCH faster (this is still Firefox's Achilles' heel, and probably always will be)

Your mileage, of course, will vary. Everybody uses a different set of websites and a varying quantity of open tabs on a regular basis, but I did try to get a good spectrum of classes of sites and I think 12 open tabs isn't unusual by any reasonable measure.

Side observation: Opera was the only browser that didn't let me simply drag my open links from a Firefox address bar to its own address bar. I had to manually copy and paste.

Anyway, these are all excellent browsers, and I rate all of them highly, here. Firefox is simply my favorite, and it just happens to use less memory. Honestly, memory usage isn't something I think about anymore unless it's ridiculous (I remember Firefox version 2 using over half a gig of memory with just a few tabs open after a few hours!). I'm much more concerned with features, responsiveness, and ease-of-use.

The minor problem I described below is still present, unfortunately, but I can live with that for now.

Otherwise, version 3.5 has given me everything I hoped it would. And the new version of Mozilla Weave with ID support is incredible.

The best got better.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.5 Final on Jul 1, 2009

1 Opera
2 IE
3 FF
4 Safari
5 Chrome

Casper75

Casper75 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Whenever their was a major release of Firefox & the speed of the browser was mentioned as one of the exciting new features I was extremely disappointed because it just wasn't true but FF 3.5 has totally restored my faith in the browser, I love the private browsing feature which is on all the time & the speed has improved a great deal & it leave FF 2 & 3 for dead. As for the problem of memory use I have had no issue in relation to this what so ever & nearly all my extensions work fantastic so if you are someone who has ditched Firefox in the past then maybe you should give it another try.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

I rate it a 4 just because of a customization issue.
The new tab icon on the tab bar can not be removed.
You can not close the current tab if only one is open, without creating a new tab & then closing the first one. Hiding the tab bar does is not a fix for this. Before clearing my private data I have always closed all tabs, just a a safety practice to make sure everything is cleared. Now I have extra stuff to do that I didn't have to deal with before.
Those are the only issues I have with the 3.5 version.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Nothing special

coover

coover reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Better than Google Chrome 3 ... Chrome 3 has rendering problems and the Chrome Bookmarks Bar must be left open in order to access Bookmarks. In addition, the Firefox installer allows you to see that the installation is actually taking place. Chrome's installer does not.

Better than Opera ... While Opera render's properly, and, in fact, does most things very well, it does not have an option (as Firefox, IE 7 and 8, Safari, and even Chrome does) to open automatically to more than one "home" page. Yes, with Opera, it only takes a couple of clicks more to get those pages in tabs, but IT DOES TAKE A COUPLE OF CLICKS MORE to actually do so. Without the ability to open multiple home pages, Opera is an inferior browser.

Better than Safari? ... maybe, probably, I haven't really given Safari a fair examination. In the brief time I've spent with it, i don't like it.

Better than IE? ... Actually, i like both IE and Firefox. IE has it's advantages, Firefox has it's advantages. I guess it really amounts to whether or not you actually hate Microsoft and whether or not you like and use Firefox extensions. The extensions are really Firefox's strength and it's weakness. Why a weakness? Because the extensions are not written into the browser or approved by Firefox, and they seem to break every time an update is made to the browser. Updates are frequently made to keep the browser secure, but sometimes Firefox users, afraid that they'll lose their favorite extension, decide not to update. That can be a fatal mistake.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

And in the end....
1º Firefox (great job in 3.5)
2º Opera
3º Google Chrome

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Testing Firefox 3.5 final against Opera 9.64. Both Vanilla installs on a clean XP SP3 Virtual machine.

Tabs opened (and in this order)
bbc.co.uk/news
fileforum.betanews.com
cnn.com
reuters.com
slashdot.com
digg.com
reddit.com

Firefox memory usage 94,300K and increasing CPU fluctuating between 0-20%
Opera 92,072k cpu fluctuating between 0-2%

Close Reddit.com
Firefox 99,192K cpu fluctuating between 0-40%
Opera 53,448k cpu fluctuating between 0-9%

Close Digg.com
Firefox 102,368K cpu fluctuating between 03-19%
Opera 53,664k cpu fluctuating between 0-2%

Close Slashdot.com
Firefox 90,888K cpu fluctuating between 03-25%
Opera 52,276k cpu fluctuating between 0-2%

Close Reuters.com
Firefox 87,016K cpu fluctuating between 0-20%
Opera 52,188k cpu fluctuating between 0-5%

Close CNN.com
Firefox 81,980K cpu fluctuating between 0-33%
Opera 52,188k cpu fluctuating between 0-8%

Close Fileforum.betanews.com
Firefox 79,028K cpu fluctuating between 0-11%
Opera 46,708k cpu fluctuating between 0-8%

Close bbc.co.uk/news
Firefox 70,136K cpu no fluctuation
Opera 46,569k cpu no fluctuation

These figures are from windows task manager only.
I don't know why cpu is fluctuating so much on Firefox, maybe it's because it's downloading the blacklisted sites in the background?
Either way Firefox still consumes more memory than Opera whichever way you cut it. No doubt Aegis69 will throw another kiddy tantrum about this.
Anybody care to do a similar test with the Opera Betas?

Joco

Joco reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Wow! It's fast! So far working better than 3.0.11, some Add-ons no longer work but I guess they will be updated in a near future.

Vexii

Vexii reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Very nice and fast. 5 stars

egg83

egg83 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Waited till final release came, am testing, performs very well. Noticeable speed increase while surfing, no rendering problems thus far. Private browsing mode is nice. A few plugins are broken, but probably will be fixed ASAP. Great job, Mozilla!

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

Response to Blaxima who says "For me I could care less what some links say..."

Ok so you are gonna ignore all the evidence like a religious person?? Great. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, then buzz off and don't bother voting.

AlphaBetaGamma

AlphaBetaGamma reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

It's faster for me than 3.0.11 on Vista x64, and Adblock Plus and NoScript work fine, so what's not to like?

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5 Final on Jun 30, 2009

An excellent release.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 28, 2009

Didn't notice any difference between this and the previous RCs, but I did notice something that didn't happen with the 3.0.x versions that I hope they fix before the final release:

With all three of these RCs, clicking on certain parts of the interface (folders on the bookmarks toolbar, for example) doesn't work while the browser is performing some activity, such as loading a page. You have to click several times or wait for the browser to finish whatever its doing, THEN click the button you want.

Now, this may not seem like a big deal, but it gets REALLY annoying after a while, and the problem is substantially aggravated if you're using older hardware.

As I mentioned: this never happened with releases previous to the 3.5 builds, and it happens now with all three hardware and OS combinations I use on a daily basis.

Please fix, Mozilla! 3.5 is fantastic, otherwise.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.0.11 on Jun 26, 2009

@ TC17 - no1 cars what do you will use...
and changing Firefox to IE... HAHAHA...
I will understand to Opera or Chromium, but IE... LMAO...

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 26, 2009

@ Prospero424 - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
you should report it...

IMO better than Opera, Chromium and Safari...

the LOWEST overall memory usage, yep its true if you use build from Mozilla, not others modified builds...
http://dotnetperls.com/chrome-memory
http://dotnetperls.com/browser-memory
http://avencius.nl/conte...-opera-950-memory-usage
http://www.kejut.com/browsermemory
etc...

and see by yourself not opening only 3 tabs... but in OVERALL statistic when surfing...

FASTEST than Opera in AJAX & JS due to now engine with JIT, but it will be probably changed due to Opera 10 introduce Carakan engine and Opera will be boosted up ;)

but nvm memory usage (I have 2GB RAM for something, not for doing nothing...) and speed less or more... [but I dont negate the lower RAM usage and faster browser are better)

Mozilla Firefox for me is powerful because of the addons like:
-Adblock Plus
-DownloadThemAll!
-FireFTP
-Flagfox
-Greasemonkey
-NoScript
-Personas for Firefox
-Session Manager
-Yes popups

and of course Opera innovations like:
-Fast Dial
-Mouse Gestures Redox

I cant browse without it ;)

But still Firefox have the largest time startup when you are opening the first time browser after PC restart...
Its SHAME !!!

Peace !!!

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 25, 2009

Seeing as some people feel name calling is an appropriate response I will try another approach. It really doesn't get any simpler than testing things for yourself.

My portable Opera 10 beta build 1589 (which is not a MS product) vs. a barbones(ZERO plugins)portable FF 3.5 RC2.
Both just opened with the same 3 pages and no browsing on any of the pages.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9349/compare.png

Notice not only the memory usage but the cpu usage as well and like I said this is before any browsing which sends FF much higher because of the way it caches pages.

For me I could care less what some links say because it's my computer and my usage that ultimately affects me

Firefox just doesn't have the usability of Opera without the need of plug ins which more times than not creates incompatibility with new builds and of course higher memory consumption. Page rendering for me was the only advantage FF had over Opera but that hasn't been the case for sometime now.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 25, 2009

Firefox Achilles heel IS the extensions and themes system, and I agree they have NOT done a good job communicating this to developers and end-users how these changes to basic operation can and will effect system stability or upgradability.

I have had extensions effect functionality of the browser.

Having said that, I've seen the same happen to Microsoft Outlook and Word far, far more often, to the point of corrupting files like normal.dot and the .NK2 file within Outlook.

You have to take some degree of responsibility when you design extensible and open platforms. I think Mozilla has improved, but it isn't as good as they can get.

So I'm rating this a 4 this time, but overall my average of Firefox is probably 4.9. It is just so much more powerful with ABP, noscript, greasemonkey, to name a few, that this instability is WELL WORTH IT. I still never see crashes in Firefox, the cause of a crash is java, and even then it's rare.

As for the memory use: I can confirm Opera uses 6MB less than Firefox with my sample tabset open.

But on a 6 gig 64-bit system, that is .1% difference. I would have to open hundreds of instances of firefox for it to make a measurable impact on my system. Opera can't block scripts like FF can, block ads granularly (only by static file,) it can't customize Craigslist with image previews like I can with greasemonkey, it can't customize Google Reader with 4 different customizations.

I don't understand this memory argument issue when we're talking a less than percent difference in browsers, and DECREASING over time!

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 25, 2009

Aegis69, there's something seriously wrong with you. That "moron" that you referred to doesn't mention MS at all in your quote. Quite how that makes the person an MS shill in your mind is anyone's guess.
Have a cup of tea and chill out. He's talking about a browser not your mum. Get over it.

Back to the review. This release still takes up way more memory than Opera and most definitely still feels slower to use benchmarks or no benchmarks.
I'll stick with Opera and carry on using Firefox for development only because Firebug is so useful.

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 25, 2009

I do not see many changes. Somewhat faster for loading pages, memory use is as high as always (187 MB at this moment), not that this matters much to me. It does not work in many financial and banking pages. I use it because of the extensions.

GezusKryst

GezusKryst reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 25, 2009

I don't know about performance, and did you really time it to see if you go those improvements? But the memory usage is much better.

IE8, with its separate processes for each tab, almost seems like a step backwards. Every tab takes an additional 20MB of memory on my system, and more when pages are loaded into them.

Firefox is staying pretty lean, even with multiple tabs open.

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v3.5 RC3 on Jun 25, 2009

A million times better than any other browser.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 22, 2009

It's a five, fast and stable, been using it since betanews supplied the link yesterday. I've been everywhere, and it has not failed me once, a smashing browser.

wilson389

wilson389 reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 21, 2009

From a novice user point of view, I am pleased and satisfied with the layout rendering and the performance of this release. I do not find any big flaws so far, but there are a few issues I would like to mention about.

Although Firefox 3.5 has DNS prefetch by default, the feel of performance improvement is not as obvious as the Firefox 3.0 with "DNS prefetch" add-on. I also noticed that the browser may have problem in rendering tables in forum. The contents in the table are shrinked and compressed to one side. Some minor issues.......I like the icon of Firefox 3.0 better than the new icon of Firefox 3.5.

The multiprocess in the future releases sounds wonderful to me, I 'm looking forward to this feature.

9kkd02p3p2

9kkd02p3p2 reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 20, 2009

All this talk about incompatible add-ons was true. But not any more.
Mozilla has created Jetpack to deal with this.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 20, 2009

First off, I'd like to say that anyone who's had an extensive career in the IT industry knows that those - regardless of claims they may make to experience and expertise - who respond with name calling and insults rather than addressing valid, politely-made points are almost invariably not to be listened to. The "fanboiz" stuff is almost always a case of psychological projection.

Second, tabbed browsing in Firefox is NOT an add-on. No, they weren't the first to implement it, but is that really important at this point?

Thirdly, if there is, as so many "experts" here like to claim, a way that Mozilla should have implemented the add-on system that preserves flexibility and power while never "breaking" any third-party software WHY HAS NO ONE ELSE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS? If it's as easy as you suggest, why don't you go out and do it? I suspect most people with pretensions to expertise here wouldn't have the first clue as to how to even begin to answer that question.

Yes, occasionally breaking add-ons causes problems that I have complained about right here in the past (I mention it in my reviews of Firefox 0.8 in 2004 and of Firefox 2.0.0.12 in 2008), but the fact is that no one here knows how bad the alternative could have been. And personally attacking the developers over something you almost certainly know little or nothing about is, at the very least, dishonest and counter-productive.

I agree that the performance improvements have been overblown by many in the tech journalism field as well as some reviewers, but that's not to say that they're completely unnoticeable or nonexistent. It's just that the improvements are only visible to most people in certain environments. In this case, it's usually in media-rich implementations, which are increasingly important to most people. But no, the performance improvements aren't exactly going to blow your doors off unless you use a lot of webapps.

I'm still not aware of any credible source who's been able to prove that these latest versions suffer from a "memory leak". Yes, the browser will often use more memory over time. This is normal behavior as long as it's not allowed to interfere with the performance of other application during nominal use and, of course, as long as the memory usage isn't unreasonable with regard to the tasks being performed. As I've pointed out before: Firefox still uses less physical memory with more than a few tabs open than other browsers (like Safari and Opera and Chrome), yet nobody accuses them of having "memory leaks". This has been confirmed by independent sources like Browser World, Slashdot, and Cybernet. But it's only fair to note that memory usage inconsistencies can be and often are caused by add-ons, so always be on the look-out for that.

Anyway, it's perfectly fair and beneficial to point out ways in which Mozilla could improve Firefox. They've still got some work to do, and these suggestions and complaints are a part of what these reviews are all about. But constant (and sometimes baseless) harping and moaning laced with personal invective isn't going to improve ANYTHING.

Oh, and "innovators" spearhead things like (as pointed out above) Jetpack: https://jetpack.mozillalabs.com/ and Weave: https://labs.mozilla.com/projects/weave/

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

I just have to respond here to some of these ill informed posts. Most of the add-ons make this browser more usable but it also makes the slow loading Gecko engine even slower. Whats worse is that a good majority of the add-ons achieve usability that is taken from another browser that has such features out of the box already. This is why it is better to customize through ini's and custom buttons rather than an add-on system which impacts performance. Don't get me wrong, there are a few very useful add-ons.

Despite all the rhetoric around here the performance difference is not all that noticeable and neither are the claims of the fixed memory leaks. Stability seems to becoming more of an issue.

Innovators invented tabbed web browsing, imitators use add-ons

univofky

univofky reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

TP, this is not the ideal solution, but it is a solution. Take one of your addons, like Save Image in Folder 1.2.6. Use IE to download the .xpi file. Unzip this file. Open "install.rdf" and change MaxVer to 3.5. Rezip all files back and make sure extension is .xpi. Using FF, File, Open and open the xpi file. Installation will proceed normally for the addon mentioned above (I just tested it). Your mileage will vary. I tried to explain earlier that sometimes the fault lies with the xpi and not the browser. The source code for FF is beyond me and I can't explain why .xpis sometimes fail regardless of changing this variable.

roj

roj reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

I have to say a lot of people are behaving like the typical ZillaLand fanboiz, right down to the "let me read with what I sit on instead of what my eyes are mounted in".

I like the browser.

I use it daily.

It's my browser of choice.

It's architecture was "designed" (I use the term extremely loosely) by a bunch of 13-year old wannabe propellerheads and is neither intelligent nor sustainable, a FACT highlighted by the broken plugins with each point release.

The fact that the browser has come as far as it has is VERY laudable given its inherent disadvantages BUT IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE.

ZillaLand needs to get its head out of the ground and actually DEVELOPE an architecture.

I've worked in this biz for 20 years and have participated in more software projects than most of you have underwear and the current road is NOT the way to go.

Of course, the average system acumen level as evidenced by the replies here is pretty much in common with those who developed the architecture to begin with (about as deep as the average teaspoon) so it's not surprising that we get l33t l1ttl3 boi gam3r responses.

The senior members here however will note, recognize and acknowledge the truth.

THREE stars for a browser that has achieved what it has primarily by brute force developement rather than intelligence nd no amount of rhetoric, regardless of source or tone, is going to change that simple, blatantly obvious and utterly undeniable FACT.

tp

tp reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

I quickly noticed the performance increase.. And much better plugin readiness from the last major release.. Only 11 of my 45 addons aren't ready.. Enough that I won't be rolling back... These are the addons that I will miss:

- Histogram Viewer 1.1.0
- LogMeIn, Inc. Remote Access Plugin 1.0.0.406
- MeasureIt 0.3.8
- Save Image in Folder 1.2.6
- Yet Another Smooth Scrolling 2.0.20

I just have to chime in response to roj (his post is above me how appropriate). It is possible to be a know it all without bashing regular users just because they are not high and mighty developers like you boast to be. Somehow I knew that giving a simple opinion was going to arouse the likes of you...

Update in response to univofky : I did find the tweak to disable compatibility checking..(adding boolean 'extensions.checkCompatibility' = false in about:config) It seems to work fine and I will just use that and re-enable it periodically until things catch up...

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

Pretty good. I can see the speed increase. So far no problems to report. Like usual, and its not the browsers fault, only 7 of my 14 add on's came over. But the all important adblock worked.

4122

4122 reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

I love the ability to add extensions and customize my browser to operate the way I wanted it to. Remove the ability to use addons and extensions one may as well use IE, Opera, or Chrome.

If you still want to use Firefox and don't want to use any addons you can do that, too. Just don't try to take away my addons which make my browsing experience very enjoyable.

MichaelDHam

MichaelDHam reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

Installed RC 2 and have *not* had a problem at all, did have it shut down in 3.0.10 version once due to a website problem I believe but seemed to work better in 3.0.11 and all since including this one. I was a devoted IE fan till a friend got me to give Firefox a shot and not will not use anything else. These RC's are ready for final release in my eyes and my opinion. All that seem to have the problems seem to be here and there for the most part and the world as to with electronics
is not perfect in all cases and depends on the individuals set up for the most part.
Firefox is alway a KEEPER! Hopefully the full release will be soon!

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

My favorite browser. I recommend Tete's build for faster performance - http://www1.plala.or.jp/...009/en-US/software.html

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

As far as I'm concerned this is RTM quality, and has been for months.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v3.5 RC2 on Jun 19, 2009

TP, this is not the ideal solution, but it is a solution. Take one of your addons, like Save Image in Folder 1.2.6. Use IE to download the .xpi file. Unzip this file. Open "install.rdf" and change MaxVer to 3.5. Rezip all files back and make sure extension is .xpi. Using FF, File, Open and open the xpi file. Installation will proceed normally for the addon mentioned above (I just tested it). Your mileage will vary.

waffull

waffull reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 18, 2009

Must speedier.. Looking forward to a final release and hope that better gmail 2 is updated:) Can't give it a 5, after all, it's only an RC:)

DoHickey... You can set ff to not show the tab bar if you only have one page open (Tools --> Options --> Tabs --> Uncheck: Always show the tab bar)

That may solve part of your problems and also give you more screen real estate:)

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 18, 2009

So far only 3 things I do not like about this version.
I can't seem to remove the new tab button from the tab bar.
If only one tab is open I can't close it to bring up a blank, I have to open a new tab & then close the first one.
A couple of sites wouldn't work, the weather radar wouldn't loop.
I have all of the plug ins required to do this.

Other than those 3 little things, it's not bad at all & it's fast.
Good work Moz

PS. Thanks Waffull, but I like having a blank page up before I clear personal data. So if I can't clear the page & have a blank, I have a problem with it.
The current version does this & I'd like it to carry over to the new version.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 18, 2009

Excellent program. I downloaded this build myself straight away yesterday when I saw it here. But looking on the Mozilla forums today they're currently saying the final RC1 has still not been released.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 18, 2009

All but one of my ~20 add-ons worked even with the preview (beta 99) build as well. That's a MUCH better ratio than past milestones had.

Speed's great, no compatibility or rendering problems. No crashes under Windows 7 64-bit or Windows XP 32-bit.

As far as the add-ons architecture debate: yes, Mozilla has historically had problems with "breaking" add-ons with milestone updates. Could they have done a better job? Sure, and I've criticized them for exactly that right here on BetaNews in the past. But the fact is that neither you nor I know the specific technical hurdles they were facing, and pretending you do for the sake of argument is a bit sanctimonious.

The fact is that no other browser has an add-on/extension system NEARLY as diverse or powerful as Firefox does, nor are they nearly as consistent across platforms. Opera has a few good ones, but the sheer volume and raw capability of them isn't even close. Google Chrome says they're gonna have them sometime in the indefinite future, and they still don't even have a usable Linux version. So criticizing Mozilla for not doing what NO ONE else has been able to do also seems a bit unreasonable.

But if you really think the architecture could or should be designed to make any plug-in authored at any time in the past or the future work FOREVER, that's not just unreasonable, that's stupid. But perhaps that's not your contention.

Not a perfect browser, and not the fastest browser, but definitely the most capable and flexible. I only use other browsers as backups these days.

Oh, and BTW. This version installed right on top of Firefox 3.0.10 while the betas (including the preview) installed in a separate directory in case you wanted to go back to the old version without reinstalling. So perhaps we won't be seeing an RC2 after all despite the implications of the "RC1" title. Also, the "about" page simply reads "Version 3.5". It doesn't even note that it's a release candidate. I thought that was interesting.

mfarmilo: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/whatsnew/

4122

4122 reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

I have to be the conflicting opinion here. I upgraded from v3.0.10 first to v3.5b99 and now v3.5 RC1 and all 27+ extensions I am using are working perfectly.

I have to commend the extension authors this time around getting their products in shape for the v3.5 release ahead of schedule.

TIP: Make sure to visit http://addons.mozilla.org and manually check for updates to your extensions. I found at least three had silent updates that did not bump the version number, but did bump the maxversion in the extension's code.

P.S. These ratings are to rate the browser itself not the extensions. If you have a complaint about extensions there are other places to do that.

Mumoto

Mumoto reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

lol, Roy that's like saying "Make Windows vista applications work on Windows 3.1"

Ofcourse new versions of Firefox will BREAK addons, if you have problems with that use the older versions or tell the addon-developers to come off their lazy asses and update their addon.

Furthermore 3.5 RC1 seems to be a hell of a improvement over 3.0.1

emanresU deriseD

emanresU deriseD reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

Roj is absolutely correct. The continual breaking of extensions and plugins has ALWAYS pissed me off. It's a ridiculous state of affairs. Users end up reliant on freeware authors who may never update their software.

Note to the confused: This IS a review of the browser, not of extensions. It's Firefox that has such a lousy extension update system.

roj

roj reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

As per normal, it breaks plugins. That is a MAJOR Achilles Heel in the FF "architecture" (I use the term loosely) and speaks volumes as to its lack of sustainability.

How about you guys in ZillaLand actually deal with that issue permanently for FF 4.0?

To those who do not have the acumen to comprehend the trivialities known as "backwards compatibility" and "architecture", let me spell it out for them in Mister Rogers terms:

A Point Release Should Not Break Plugins.

Hell, even new releases should not break the plugins of the previous release, especially since (unlike operating systems) there are not seven year intervals between those releases.

THREE stars for a good browser with a half-assed architecture.

Let the flaming begin - I'm sure the "Faithful" will now get their panties in a bunch over the undeniable and obvious.

PS:

The extension "architecture" IS part of the browser and when it falls on its ass, as it invariably does, THIS IS the place to showcase that criminally repeated stupidity.

Juhandra

Juhandra reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

Beats the other browsers by a mile.
Slick, configurable as you like, fast, and stable.

Vimes

Vimes reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

Excellent browser. Well supported with an impressive choice of plugins which, imo, make this the browser of choice. Although Chrome is now starting to use plugins it will take a while before they mature. I do like Chrome but it is the plugins for FF that make me keep coming back to use it.
If only Opera would develop a plugin system similar to FF, rather than the widgets it uses, it too would be on my short list of browsers to use.

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

Best browser ever. I use it at work and at home. The Read It Later plugin makes it easy to bookmark sites and access them at home and at work. Adblock Plus removes all kinds of ads. It really makes websites load faster and makes them look like the webdesigner intended to.

kindbud1

kindbud1 reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 17, 2009

come now, shallot. don't be an operatard.

shallot

shallot reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 16, 2009

Or just use Opera...It has everything you need built right in...You don't need to maintain Gazillion addons and extensions which makes FF usable...

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 16, 2009

I basically love Firefox and have been running the 3.5 betas with really good luck. This RC1 will not even start up at all. Not ready for prime time. Because of this I give this release just 1 star.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 16, 2009

Install MR Tech Toolkit to make your addons compatible, it might not work with all of them but it worked fine with mine.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/421

Att: Sammo

Start Firefox in safe mode, disable a few extensions till you find the one casing the problem. FF 3.5 RC1 works perfectly, you'll find its an addon causing problems.

dink

dink reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 16, 2009

Most of my add-ons are incompatible with the rc. Gonna have to go thru the same thing again as I did when FF3 first came out. Not happy about this. Hopefully this will be resolved before the final release

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 16, 2009

Sweet. This means 3.5 release likely in the next 1-3 weeks.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v3.5 RC1 on Jun 16, 2009

3.5b99 is running flawlessly. Much faster, accepts most add-ons, resolves pages nicely... I was hoping Mozilla would counter the speed of Google Chrome and it looks like they have. Bravo!

keir

keir reviewed v3.0.11 on Jun 13, 2009

wow. I think it did close for no apparent reason once last night, but although it's early days it looks like in 3.0.0.11 the memory I like I've had for so long I can't remember when it started is finally gone, or at least much improved.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.11 on Jun 12, 2009

TC17:
It's you.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 12, 2009

This is the first version of the 3.5 development builds that I've felt perfectly comfortable using on a daily basis. The past betas just weren't "done" enough.

No problems with rendering, improved performance, especially on Java-heavy sites, and all my vital add-ons (most really popular ones) are working.

Also, I like the little (and big) interface and aesthetic changes they've made.

It actually uses LESS physical memory than Chrome does with more than a few tabs open, even if the tabs aren't separate processes like they are in Chrome (which I like and rate highly here). And now Firefox's performance is at least comparable, even if Chrome is still a bit faster.

Input Overload

Input Overload reviewed v3.0.11 on Jun 12, 2009

As I write this on Firefox it's using around 3400 meg of Memory & very few CPU cycles. I was an Opera fan for many years & moved over to Firefox a few months ago. Firefox is a great browser & 3.5 will be even better if the beta's I've tried are anything to go by.

jafo818

jafo818 reviewed v3.0.11 on Jun 11, 2009

TC17 obviously it's your installation or extensions... I've used Firefox 1, 2, and 3 extensively and never had the 99% CPU problem you describe.

alcvanamelsvoort

alcvanamelsvoort reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 10, 2009

I've been a Firefox fan since version 1.0 but would change immediately to Chrome if it worked with Lastpass and Xmarks or similar. I find no improvement in speed or memory, none whatsoever.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

No extension issues (I have 7 common ones installed.)
No rendering or performance issues. Extensions in Firefox bring me far more functionality than any other browser, so I don't even really bother anymore. Loading a page with no ads versus loading it .09 seconds faster, I'm going to go with no ads.
Never could get multiple tabs as a homepage in Opera. Their help system was ghastly, as well.

alcvanamelsvoort (above) You GOTTA be smoking something if you don't think there are speed improvements to Firefox since version 1. Load up 4 tabs for a homepage in FF 1.0, and 4 tabs for a homepage in 3.5pre and tell me there isn't a difference in loading the pages and responsiveness between switching tabs.

methuselah

methuselah reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

b99 feels a little faster than beta 4. (although that might be due to some 3rd party extensions not being updated yet.) Adblock+ and NoScript goth working, which are the most important ones for me.

reidyn

reidyn reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

I would have preferred to be able to award a solid 4 1/2. This is a better browser than 3.0 and as explained by the Foundation, the overhauled Javascript engine and several other internal changes have warranted a .5 version leap. Quite a feat, to improve the Javascript performance by 250%.

To address a couple of remarks below, I too am disappointed that the extension writers didn't just go ahead and set "maxver" to 3.5 final after the extensions related code had been totally nailed down (beta 3 or 4, I forget). That would have prevented so many extensions from appearing to break when in reality they will work fine. Mine all did. That's the extension authors' faults, more so than Firefox, though I wonder if it might be possible in the future to do something like what Google is doing and arranging for extensions to work independent of what happens in the browser along the way. Go get the Ngihtly Tester Tools extension and use it to force them all to work in the meantime. That's quite easy and it does the trick.

As for performance, let me be more precise than the reviewer directly below me. At least with respect to Javascript performance, it goes like this: IE is very distantly behind the rest of the pack. Opera is actually next to last but still well ahead of. Firefox is somewhat ahead of Opera. Chrome and Safari are running neck and neck vying for #1, but final Safari 4.0 and the latest Chrome dev build has Chrome ahead by a nose. Both are quite a bit faster than everything else. I really don't have objective performance figures for overall page rendering. Various reports put all of the browsers fairly close together on that. As for responsiveness, subjectively I'm giving that to Chrome, followed by Opera, then not terribly far behind is Firefox, and IE is well behind. I don't know where to place Safari because it feels kinda fast one day and kinda slow the next. Firefox is much more responsive with no extensions than it is when you do as I have and load it up with a ton of them.

With memory usage, I totally disagree with the poster below. I've seen others conduct memory usage testing, and I've conducted my own, with interesting results. Firefox is actually pretty much leading the pack over a typical usage session for memory usage. Safari, in my testing, was much higher on memory usage than everything else, and the rest all fell somewhere between Firefox and Safari. I kind of expected Opera to be at the top and didn't find this to be true.

Firefox is still king of the hill with respect to extensions, as no one can even touch its current ecosystem. I'm personally using Chrome most of the time because of the raw performance (responsiveness, rendering, javascript) but when I'm not using Firefox I seriously miss the extensions that I've come to enjoy. Furthermore, Firefox has an unparalleled bookmark management system with a fantastic inclusion of tags. I'm waiting for the others to catch up in this respect. Because of this, and the XMarks server sync addon, I'm still using Firefox as my primary bookmark manager. I just wish I could sync with the others more easily.

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

Build 99 no beta 99

coover

coover reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

As usual, Firefox's major weakness reared it's ugly head on this version ... half the extensions do not work. This is extremely common with all Firefox updates. Eventually, the extension writers will catch up with the browser writers, but it won't happen immediately.

The browser is still a memory hog, which, I guess is ok if you have lots and lots of extra memory, and it is still a bit slower than Google and on par with Opera and IE in speed.

If this is your favorite browser, I'd guess it will stay your favorite browser. Nothing seems broken except several extensions.

arvind

arvind reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

Been using Beta 4 for a while now.. but damn, this version is really fast!

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

Very fast, lots of new features and standards compliant, stable. Also can't wait for the RC!

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v3.5 Beta 99 on Jun 9, 2009

Can't wait for the official RC !

Only a few extensions fail to work.
Speed is excellent (page rendering), at least at par with Opera 10.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v3.0.10 on Jun 8, 2009

I'm very close to totally giving up on any Mozilla product. For years now, Firefox has had the problem of 99% cpu usage. And its not all flash content causing it either. Yet it NEVER gets fixed. It will work fine for a while, then it will start acting up, and it doesn't matter whether its in XP or Vista. Its extremely annoying and I think I'm going to start using some other browser... probably IE8.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Jun 4, 2009

Same resource consumption than v3 and little more faster than previous versions. Opera 10 beta1 is way more fast and it consume less memory..
Loading warp.net without flash plugin demmand 42MB of RAM with FF, same site with Opera 10 loading all the flash stuff took 36MB and even with the animation Opera load that site faster.
Anyway FF still being a great browser (compared to GC or IE), and his strongest point are the plugins, I still keep it for plugins like Scrapbook.

statm1

statm1 reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on May 29, 2009

Oh come on Mastertech.. Do you even know why the ACID3 test was made? The author purposely picked things that no one really needs to have right now to be in that test. ACID 2 was necessary. But ACID3 is just where we should head to not automatically be.

All current (Windows) browsers right now IE8, Chrome 2/3, Firefox 3/3.5, Safari 4, Opera 9.6/10, they are all standards compliant browsers, because they all support CSS 2.1. IE8 is the only one of those, to my knowledge, to support every single aspect of CSS 2.1. The ACID2 nor the ACID3 does not test every single aspect of the 2.1 spec.

And since HTML5 and CSS3 are not a final standard yet its alittle hard to support them fully since the specs kinda change.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on May 12, 2009

Standards support my ass, Firefox still does not pass Acid 3!

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

roj

roj reviewed v3.0.10 on May 4, 2009

Ever since the .9 release, I've been getting myriad "cannot connect" errors on multiple different machines under both XP and Vista. When you look the error up, you get some trite nonsense from ZillaLand claiming a firewall setting is at fault. Guess what? I don't run a firewall.

Get off your azz and fix this nonsense, ZillaLand. It's clearly something you did wrong since .8 as when I revert to .8, all is sweetness and light. We know .9 was a mess and .10 was supposed to clean up said mess.

Get a bigger broom.

THREE stars for an extremely annoying BUG.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on May 1, 2009

Work like hell with JIT default enabled !!!

@ nilst2006 - than report bug...

@ anomoly - and we browsing net with minimized browser LULZ...

stop fucing about memory leaks etc, look on this test...
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8030/94797547.png
and see Fx isnt that worst like you can see...

and P.S. Memory is cheap in these days LMAO...

nilst2006

nilst2006 reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 29, 2009

Can't import bookmarks from IE or Opera. Script Error. Can't restore from json or likewise. Script error. WORST version ever !!!

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 29, 2009

K-meleon blows this crap away
k-idle and minimized uses like 5mb of mem
ff-same uses like 64mb
if it weren't for that I may have played with it more

Nefarious

Nefarious reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 29, 2009

I like the beta a lot, seems faster than it was before and still keeping the old stuff working.

The correct way to try a beta and still use your outdated addons would be getting the "nightly tester tools" addon and using "overwrite all compatibility" for the ones that didnt got directly working at least until the addon gets an update.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 29, 2009

I like it....a lot.

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 29, 2009

The best by a long shot, plugins or not. As per plugins not working when upgrading, you can't blame the browser just because no one has updated the plugins to work with newer versions of firefox.

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 28, 2009

I hate to say this as I have used Firefox a long time now, along with a couple of others. But it seems to me that Firefox is going downhill, beta or not. It is a resource hog and has been for a long time. Every time we upgrade, plugins do not work or something else breaks. I think I am tired of this now and will move on to another browser. I would like something that works nicely when it upgrades, I am beginning to wonder if anything does. 3.5 beta 4 does not cut it with me at all, not at all. Good bye Firefox...

Djuzan Belic

Djuzan Belic reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 28, 2009

The miserable CPU hogging and memory hunger are still there, nothing has changed under the hood.

T_LOKZz

T_LOKZz reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 28, 2009

For it to get better changes have to be made. Face it Firefox is losing a lot of users to Chrome, I am a Chromium user myself. They need to make some major changes. Just be like everybody else and wait for a plugin update that makes it compatible or do it yourself.

coover

coover reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 28, 2009

Plugins - Firefox's "strength' and Firefox's "weakness". I have just installed 3.5 Beta 4 (interesting numbering as Beta 1, 2, and 3 were all version 3.1) and as soon as I did, I got a list of plugins that no longer worked.

When Firefox was introduced, plugins were frequently cited as the reason people changed from another browser to Firefox. But everytime Firefox "improves" the browser, it breaks the plugins. Can't we get a browser which doesn't need plugins that break whenever the browser is updated?

Firefox is a good browser, but it could be better. Build it so it does not break plugins or doesn't need plugins.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 28, 2009

Speed is fine when you include extensions that remove the crap portions of the web.

us3r

us3r reviewed v3.5 Beta 4 on Apr 28, 2009

I like Firefox for its compatibility with many websites, innovative features, lots of useful addons, but the developers should give it some speeeeeeeeeed. This browser is so slow comparing to its competition like Opera or Safari. And why Firefox 3.5 does NOT pass Acid 3 test with 100% score?!

http://acid3.acidtests.org/

http://people.opera.com/...tern/performance-1.html

http://people.opera.com/...tern/performance-2.html

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 28, 2009

Simply the best browser for me...
Extensions are pure win !!!

@ DaComboMan - simply disable compatibly check...
about:config =>
extensions.checkCompatibility "false"
and
extensions.checkUpdateSecurity "false"

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 28, 2009

With all respect for Firefox beta, this one failed to import at least 80% of my extensions. Wait for the official version.

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

Opera has all the g**ness I need in order to be a fully g** g**tard, without installing extensions which is hard.

wyzwyk

wyzwyk reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

While some other browsers may get better marks on the ACID 3 test, open faster, render pages quicker and are more secure Firefox remains king of the browsers by virtue of its enormous feature set. The add-ons give the user the ability customize the look and feel that the other browsers can only dream about.
As for bigmamma......Presently Firefox has about 22% of the market share and Opera 0.7%. That means that for every Opera user there are over 31 Firefox users. Kindly tell us Bigmamma, if Opera is such a superior browser compared to Firefox then why isn't it reflected in the numbers? You give Firefox one star? What kind of nonsense is that? Be gone with you little Opera troll.... back under the bridge from where you came.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

ye ha!

kindbud1

kindbud1 reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

bigmama is obviously a complete operatard.

firefox is awesome.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

Excellent!!

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

Not sure what the issue is with some users and there extensions. I got 17 of them, and all of them came over. The newer beta versions, 3.1 or 3.5= whatever they call it, is a different story. As for the troll who gave this a one, come on. None of the top browsers are bad. Your just being a moron.

Lawrence01

Lawrence01 reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

I love firefox!

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

Ugly. Opera has whatever I want without adding several extensions. Opera gives you a better browsing experience

JParish

JParish reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

@ballyhairs: Actually, Firefox was not the first one to make tabbed browsing. I can remember using NetCaptor way back in the day (1998). I don't know if any else did it first...

Firefox is a great web browser.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.10 on Apr 27, 2009

"You’re now running Firefox 3.0.1."

Yeah they *might* want to consider renaming that version number for purposes of clarification.

edit: Looks like Mozilla fixed this.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 22, 2009

Nice - after updating to 3.0.9 all extensions quit working. Fix is here:

http://support.mozilla.c...omments_parentId=334120

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 22, 2009

@steviejay2002
Obviously you don't know anything about Firefox, you just made fool of yourself by even mentioning such a thing that Firefox invented, they call it customize andt here you have whole lots of things to drag and drop... new tab, huh? lol
The best browser ever, still missing save settings and add-ons option, I guess I will have to keep on using MozBackup till it becomes a built in option.

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

@ steviejay2002
The New Tab Button can be accessed the same way as it has for every version of Firefox, right click anywhere on the Navigation Bar and select customize, bingo there's a menu with all the little buttons you could wish for including the New Tab button, just drag the button you want to where you want it ................. something I think even opera and IE users can manage, although maybe not.

used FF for years here and love it

steviejay2002

steviejay2002 reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

Yeah the missing 'new tab' button is something IE & Opera have had for ages. Can't think why one isn't in FF, CTRL & T just isn't good enough

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

I prefer Opera and IE8 as alternative. I cannot use Firefox. Opera has the features I want without installing extensions...

Mumoto

Mumoto reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

mjm01010101:
There are several reasons for software to not work properly on some systems.

For example:
- Too many processes running
- P2P downloading
- Spyware/viruses
- Computer configuration messed up

Vista is a hog itself unless you tweak it down like I did.
Performance-wise 64-bit SHOULD run faster most of the time but we're talking about a webbrowser not Crysis.

64-bit Vista and XP have crap hardware and software support sooo I rather wait a few OS'es before switching over.

andeemac2006

andeemac2006 reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

To the guy that had the message about removing IE8 might harm Fiirefox,
Well all I have to say is That XP SP3 was brought out to make people move to Vista !!!! it nearly messed up my Instalation of Xp SP2 that i had on my old PC for 4 years
This is what they do when your not doing what they want .

FixXxeR

FixXxeR reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

mjm, how does using 64 bit operating systems give you more credibility? Is it just because he has 4GB and is running 32 bit? That is not an argument. I still do it and wont use 64 bit until my hardware is better supported. To me, 32 bit is still the SMART way to go. A browser should work the same on either platform, or close to the same.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

mjm01010101@:

I'm not sure how using a still under-supported OS environment lends someone credibility when reviewing a browser that should work just fine on either platform....

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.9 on Apr 21, 2009

borisf98, perhaps you should be using a 64-bit Operating system before you review software? It might give you a touch more credibility.

Sure it is an argument. You plainly tout your ignorance when you run an operating system and waste a Gig of RAM.

utomo

utomo reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Apr 13, 2009

add an easy way to speed it up
something like this

http://www.google.com/se...=ie7&rlz=1I7IRFA_en

utomo

utomo reviewed v3.0.8 on Apr 13, 2009

New Browser mostly Use New Tab Instead of new Windows.
But Look at The Firefox.
There is No Button which can be used to open new Tab. Only New Windows (which is not too much used)

Look at other Browser. all Have new way to open new tab.
IE 7 and IE 8, Chrome, Opera, ETC

Note : I know we can use CTRL + T but a Button will be easier.

myboy

myboy reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Apr 5, 2009

Browser is relatively stable. Sky-high memory usage when visiting sites with Flash. For some reason, a few settings that would make it use less memory are not an option by default (such as config.trim_on_minimize or for those with less memory, browser.cache.memory.capacity). Also enable TraceMonkey for faster browsing.

They should incorporate the extension Download Statusbar and be done with it. The default manager sucks.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v3.0.8 on Apr 5, 2009

This version works rather well, I'm happy with it.
Not much else to say, it works and I've had no problems.

One question that I hope someone can answer.
When uninstalling IE-8 why do I get a message box saying that Firefox will be effected when I uninstall IE-8?.
If Firefox is a true separate entity from IE, why would I get this message?
Something seems fishy about this.

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.0.8 on Mar 28, 2009

2 last releases are full of bugs

3.0.7 is a memory hog which was not the case with previous releases.

3.0.8 disabled all plugins in navigation bar.

Hopefully next release will fix those problems. Vista 32/ 4GB RAM.

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v3.0.8 on Mar 27, 2009

Still the best!

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.0.8 on Mar 27, 2009

Please use this link if the ftp is over loaded
www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download

All my plugging worked with this update and install was fast and clean.
[url=http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0.8/releasenotes/]See what's new in Firefox 3.0.8[/url]
[url=http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/]View the top new features[/url]

giwo

giwo reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 16, 2009

While Firefox 3.0.7 rarely seemed slow to me, I've noticed an improvement in 3.1b3 when loading just about any web site. Also privacy mode does exactly what the name suggests, allowing the user to browse without concern for cookies or history. Another nice new feature is the ability to clear browsing history for a limited time frame, ie the past hour.

So far I have yet to encounter any glitches or crashes while using this build, a definite improvement over 3.1b2, which had several issues finally resulting in me reverting back to 3.0.x.

With the constantly improving (and already great) browser from Mozilla paired with AdBlock and NoScript, I can't think of a single reason to use another browser.

mfaccone

mfaccone reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 15, 2009

I used to hate Mozilla and Firefox. But as of the last few builds, I've come to like it better than IE. It really has matured well.

GrailKnight

GrailKnight reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 14, 2009

Working fine here. Faster then ever and low memory usage.

Its a keeper.

Djuzan Belic

Djuzan Belic reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

It's still as slow and memory hungry as it ever was.

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

No problem so far! All sites are loading really quick, great improvement from 3.0.7.

Read reviews saying that Safari and Chrome seem to be faster, but hey, Firefox is highly customizable! This makes up for the defects. Its a complete browser!

Competition comes when Safari and Chrome start incorporating add-ons. But I think, that will affect its performance. We'll see.

Heres a tip btw - Completely uninstall Firefox, as in remove from local settings etc and from the registry too - then install FF3.1 b3 - I've noticed a HUGE improvement when I did this. Its sure worth a shot!

tomkaten

tomkaten reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

This is truly the best browsing experience available these days. Extensions are what makes this browser amazing.

Speed ? Well, it's not slower than anything out there, certainly not slower than Chrome or Safari and it crushes them both on features.

So there you have it... Firefox is fast, ultra customizable, slick and just plain usable. Who wouldn't want to use it ?

I've been using the 3.1 beta since it first came out without a glitch. No random locukups, no funny looking elements, nothing. Two minor problems on two different sites, both addressed in this version, which seems even faster and more responsive. All my previous extensions work just fine, with the exception of my most vital one: Firegestures, lol. But the Nightly Tester Tools fixed that in no time, with no side effects.

I highly recommend this beta. It's rock solid, fast and feature-full. My single standing gripe is related to the cold startup time, but it's worth the extra two seconds for all the goodies you're getting.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

Editing my review after about a month of use. This browser has crashed about 3 times in the past week, so I reverted to a fresh profile 3.0.9.

Hopefully they fix up the remaining bugs.

johnk119

johnk119 reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

is this a joke?

emanresU deriseD

emanresU deriseD reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

The extension system sucks, with some things that should be built in pushed aside. The update system REALLY sucks, and it's extremely annoying when an update comes out. It's too stupid to know if the current user is a "Limited User" (under Windows XP), and it will keep trying to update itself--over and over, ad infinitum. But of course it cannot, because the user does not have access rights.

But what REALLY sucks about Firefox is that while it performs well out of the box, it's devoid of features. And after you've accumulated a few extensions to get the features you want, the performance goes down the toilet. Just WHY do I need to install an extension to obtain "Add Bookmark Here" menu functionality? Why, when I want to manage a bookmark folder, do I either need to open the Library window and hunt for the folder manually, or install a "Manage Folders" extension? Oh--let me guess--some morons will whine that these extra menu items constitute "bloat"!

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

The best just keeps getting better!

What-A-Waste

What-A-Waste reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 13, 2009

Is it just me or are other Firefox users unable to rearrange/resize window panes within Yahoo Mail?? But no wait.. It must be a bug for FireFox and Windows because on my Mac OSX 10.5.6 I can rearrange/resize window panes in Firefox just fine..

If I try to rearrange/resize in Windows, I can grab a window frame edge and move it, but it won't set when I release the mouse button.

Anyone seen this within Vista and XP??

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

Paul Skinner: Nobody gives a damn about Windows 3.1. It's like complaining that you can't drive your Ford T on the express way because the car doesn't meet the minimum speed requirements on those kind of roads.
I see you point in complaining about the postulated support for Windows 3.1. The Firefox team should remove that part and just deduce it to any 32- or 64-bit Windows version.

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

I know this may be a bit too much info but I think its important.
Just think it would be nice to link to the Beta information
http://www.mozilla.com/e...efox/3.1b3/releasenotes/
Firefox 3.1 Beta 3 Release Notes

This is the fifth development milestone and third beta release of Firefox 3.1, the upcoming version of the Firefox web browser. Please read below for more information.

About this Beta

Firefox 3.1 Beta 3 is the fifth development milestone and third beta release of Firefox 3.1, the next version of the Firefox web browser. While this release is considered to be stable, it is intended for developers and members of our testing community to use for early evaluation and feedback. Users of the latest released version of Firefox should not expect all of their add-ons to work properly with this beta.

What’s New in Firefox 3.1 Beta 3

Firefox 3.1 Beta 3 is based on the Gecko 1.9.1 rendering platform, which has been under development for the past 9 months. Firefox 3.1 is an incremental release on the previous version with significant changes to improve web compatibility, performance, and ease of use:

* This beta is now available in 64 languages - get your local version.
* Improved the new Private Browsing Mode.
* Improvements to web worker thread support.
* Improved performance and stability with the new TraceMonkey JavaScript engine.
* New native JSON support.
* Improvements to the Gecko layout engine, including speculative parsing for faster content rendering.
* Support for new web technologies such as the and elements, the W3C Geolocation API, JavaScript query selectors, CSS 2.1 and 3 properties, SVG transforms and offline applications.

Developers can find out about all the changes and new features at the Mozilla Developer Center.

realalexpc

realalexpc reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

firefox is a superb browser and is changing all the time. if not for the fact that javascript animation performance is the slowest of ALL browsers and almost half as fast as Google Chrome.

my question is, when, oh when, will firefox improve the graphic and animation speed of firefox to be even remotely close to chrome?

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

I have had no problems with Beta 3 in Windows 7 but it keeps crashing in Windows Vista. Anyone else having that problem?

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

Pretty good product.
Doesn't live up to its billing of working with Windows 3.1 though :P

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

I've been running 3.1b3 for a few days and I can tell you that it is the fastest Firefox yet.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 12, 2009

With 3.06 I had occasional freezes and problems with pages loading forever. If I closed down the browser and tried to reopen it I'd get a message saying it was already running. Using Task Manager to try to end the process had no effect and I was forced to reboot Windows.

So far, with 3.07 I've not had this problem.

Of course, the problem may have been in an extension rather than Firefox itself...

chadamus

chadamus reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

This gets me every time 'Mozilla Firefox for Windows 3.1'...

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v3.1 Beta 3 on Mar 12, 2009

been running this beta 3 update for a few hours now and all is fine. no crashes. a good speed improvement over 3.07 i like the new icon to open a new tab. pressing ctrl-t does the same though.

anonswgeek

anonswgeek reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Mar 12, 2009

3.1b3 has been released today. i notice a good speed improvement over 3.07

JRobert

JRobert reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 9, 2009

(silly trolls!)
Just as solid as the last point release, with, presumably, a few fixes. Absolutely no issues after upgrading (OS 10.5.6).

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 9, 2009

Best browser in the World!

Skyfrog

Skyfrog reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 8, 2009

Works perfectly fine, and not slow at all unless your computer sucks. Pay no attention to the nitwit trolls.

JCookes

JCookes reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 8, 2009

Gets slower, and slower, and sloooower, and slooooooooooower.

Try Opera 9.64 for a REAL browser.

FF is only good for the work third-party people do, the browser is pure crap.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 7, 2009

Pretty much useless. Not only did Firefox crash, but it took my system down with it. Either fix the browser or take it out of the game.

XtC4UaLL

XtC4UaLL reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 4, 2009

@johnk119:
Changelog 3.0.7: http://tinyurl.com/auddbl

@emanresU deriseD:
In the Mozilla release process RCs *are identical* to the to be released versions if no other RCs are needed.

johnk119

johnk119 reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 4, 2009

How about telling us what's new in this version?

buenamierda14

buenamierda14 reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 4, 2009

Get the message "Thank for you..blah...this beta.
"About" doesnt show this as a beta though.

Has happened before.

emanresU deriseD

emanresU deriseD reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 4, 2009

"Thanks for helping us beta test Firefox 3.0.7"

Eh?

The About box doesn't show that it's a beta. Update Notifier caught the update and didn't say it was a beta. This site doesn't say it's a beta...

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 4, 2009

Better than Chrome: Has extensible architecture, better privacy, better installer. Firefox doesn't crash, Chrome does.

Better than Safari:Better installer, doesn't have Apple smugness, extensible. Another browser that loves to crash.

Better than Opera: Not by much, but Opera doesn't have adblock+, noscript capability without serious tweaks and even then it's not the same. If I didn't use FF, Opera would be my #2.

Better than IE: Well, anything is better than IE, come on! IE makes you reboot your whole machine just to patch it! This browser is riddled with zero-days that even security companies are too bored to publish! This browser has terrible standards support! This browser sucks dockeysack at javascript and rendering! Horrible!

roj

roj reviewed v3.0.7 on Mar 4, 2009

Add-on quality and the updating process for same leave A LOT to be desired - they're both a mess. The whole plugin architecture is fundamentally flawed in that regard and the folks at ZillaLand show no signs of maturing enough to address this. Despite the claims of the fanatik fanboiz, Mozilla is NOT the future because it's not sustainable for the reasons iterated above and is nowhere Joe Average Consumer oriented enough. That entire aspect needs to be rethought form a consumer and business perspective to be credible.

That being said, this is my browser of choice. I put up with the spotty add-on architecture and quality control because it does what I want. IE8 is indeed significantly faster and so on and so forth but I personally prefer the mix and match concept that Firefox gives me.

Would I recommend this for everyday consumer use?

Not on your life.

The product and concepts are FAR too rough-edged. Would I recommend it for enthusiasts who know what they want and are technically savvy enough to go looking for it?

Yes.

I give this FOUR stars because despite its obvious shortcomings, it gets the job done for those who appreciate what it has to offer and can put up with the foibles.

But to those who crown this as the king:

The Emperor is NOT wearing new clothes.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 24, 2009

With the availability of new addons for Internet Explorer, Firefox is well behind the curve as far as speed, setup, and ease of use. Mozilla needs to get its act together or its use will shrink.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 3, 2009

It loads up in roughly 1 second on my Core 2 Quad 3.33Ghz machine with multiple tabs being restored and with over a dozen add-ons installed. Not that unusual with a fast CPU and hard drive.

No, not as quick as Chrome in loading up and in running many webapps. But I use both on a daily basis, and I have to say that Firefox's performance as far as handling lots of open tabs and switching between them is noticeably faster than Chrome (once it gets loaded up, heh), especially on older hardware like Pentium 4 platforms.

Of course, for security reasons Chrome creates an entirely separate thread for each and every tab, while Firefox does not. That most likely has a lot to do with the performance quirks.

Firefox may not be the fastest or the flashiest, but it is by FAR the most flexible and (at least from a developer's point of view) most powerful browser, and the performance is quite good even if it's not at the top of every benchmark.

Still the King.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 3, 2009

artfuldodga
Reviewing 3.0.6 (Feb 3, 2009)
"takes less than 1 second to load, ablock, noscript, and a few other security related addons loading. core2 duo T8300 2.4ghz "
Really, less than a second, phew. That's bloomin' impressive artfuldodga. Anyone yet managed to break the half second barrier ? Now that would be awesome, up and running in half a second, we can but dream. I'll give it a 4, nice browser but not as fast Chrome, and certainly not as fast as the version of Firefox that the artfuldodga has been supplied with !

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 3, 2009

Works well, I like it and always have. But why does everyone act like UFO's landed when FireFox makes a new build. They do it often as all software makers do or did I miss something.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 3, 2009

I timed this on a core2duo e8400 and it took 4 seconds to load 4 tabs to completion with adblock + and noscript loaded.

Opera took 4 seconds as well with the same tabs.

Djuzan Belic

Djuzan Belic reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 3, 2009

I'm a long time Firefox user, but for me (as for about any other user) the browser gets slower and slower to start over a period of time.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.0.6 on Feb 3, 2009

Still boots slooooooow and page rendering for me is slower than Opera 10 and Chrome. Still IS and always has been a resource pig.

I used this on sites my old Opera had problems with but while Oprea 10 seems to choke up on much fewer sites now the thing is that this chokes up on most of those sites now too which was never the case

These last 2 releases have been quite unstable for me as well. FF seems to be slipping even lower than I thought they were which isn't a good thing with Chrome performing the way it does. People will probably migrate to Chrome (instead of Opera) if this keeps

huerix

huerix reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 21, 2008

I don't know if it is one of my add-ons, which ALL seemed to be disabled at first with this release, or the build itself, but I have been having freezing issues; not stabile enough for me when all the others so far have been!

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 20, 2008

Doesn't add its own listed addons. It listed All-in-One Sidebar as an addon but didn't load it. At present, you're better off with the Seamonkey Browser. It's much faster and probably more secure.

tylerhw

tylerhw reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 19, 2008

This venerable browser still excels over all of the rest. Although Google Chrome is turning into quite the handy web browser it's still missing add-ons to make up for missing functionality. 5/5 for being the best browser out there.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0.0.20 on Dec 18, 2008

If people were to move with the times Adrian, they would be using Opera which is far better than the (once again) overated FF3 which is only a slight improvement on v2 and still suffers from the pain in the arse of plugins and themes needing to be updated, however I give Mozilla credit for still supporting this version. Too many times people are forced to migrate away from things they are more than satisfied with so its good to see Mozilla is letting people have a choice!

As for this release I honestly don't see any improvements or degration. Its still a compitent browser but the slowness of it have made me use Maxthon as my rarely used second browser now

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.20 on Dec 18, 2008

So much for .19 being the last version!

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v2.0.0.20 on Dec 18, 2008

I'll stick w /v2 till they update all the themes & addons I've come to enjoy & depend on are ported over to v3

butthead

butthead reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 18, 2008

Still missing basic features like proper spatial navigation, mouse gestures, ui for cloning tabs, function to merge windows etc etc. Add a horrible about:config implementation, nonexisting display of program & profile paths, poor installer (difficult to run several instances of the browser), horrible setup and handling of profiles, messy preferences ui etc etc.

Firefox lacks basic browsing feature and is definitely the copycat in the browser market, but not a good one.

I've used this browser since its 0.x days, but the development is not promising.

kindbud1

kindbud1 reviewed v2.0.0.20 on Dec 18, 2008

I agree that people should update to FF3, but that's no reason to give this a 1. Don't be a retard.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v2.0.0.19 on Dec 18, 2008

move with the times people!! 3.0.5

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v2.0.0.19 on Dec 16, 2008

Avoid 2.0.0.19 since it's really a downgrade, the only change is they removed the phishing protection. It's also the last version, the 2.0 line is now discontinued. If you must stick with 2.x stay with 2.0.0.18 for a while longer, though eventually you will want to move to something else for security reasons. Kind of a shame, I really hate Firefox 3.

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

Please amend the link "Homepage:"
from: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

TO: http://www.mozilla.com/e...efox/3.0.5/releasenotes/

It only takes seconds to save sight users combined hours of searching and aggravation. Lets keep this sight the best by doing our best. ;^)

What’s New in Firefox 3.0.5

Firefox 3.0.5 fixes several issues found in Firefox 3.0.4:

* Fixed several security issues.
* Fixed several stability issues.
* Official releases for the Bengali, Esperanto, Galician, Hindi, and Latviann languages are now available.
* Replaced the End-User License Agreement with a new "Know Your Rights" info bar on initial install.
* When installing multiple signed XPIs simultaneously, previous versions of Firefox would fail.
* Fixed several issues found in the accessibility implementation.
* Added the ability to send OS-specific system notes in the crash reporter.
* See the Firefox 3.0.4 release notes for changes in previous releases.
complete list of bugs fixed

get the latest version of Firefox 3 here
Download a Firefox version that speaks your language

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 16, 2008

Please amend the link "Homepage:"
from: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

TO: http://www.mozilla.com/e...efox/3.1b1/releasenotes/

It only takes seconds to save sight users combined hours of searching and aggravation. Lets keep this sight the best by doing our best.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.19 on Dec 16, 2008

MHTML is not a finalized standard, and due to the files looking different on pretty much every browser, I can see why Mozilla ignores it. Not even IEx or Opera can save every page with consistency.

Users should have migrated off of this version of Firefox by now to version 3.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

best browser on earth.

keiichi999

keiichi999 reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

FF already has a patch system :P

kindbud1

kindbud1 reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

Yeah, beta test?

The About Box seems to indicate a final version.

Odd.

arossetti

arossetti reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

Thanks for helping beta test Firefox??? Guess this isn't quite final...

netean

netean reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

I'm getting fed up with download the whole application just for a couple of bug fixes.. Can't they implement a patch system, it would be so much easier!

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.0.5 on Dec 16, 2008

I was mistaken. Problem was with ZoneLabs Firewall which for some reason does not like FireFox.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 10, 2008

everytime I install one of there betas I loose all my bookmarks!?!?!?!

so i'm waiting until final

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 10, 2008

Excellent for a beta.

The new Java rendering engine really is noticeably faster. I was a skeptic until I tried it on several of my machines. If you don't believe me, just compare 3.1's performance with 3.0's while browsing quickly through something like Last.fm. It's just far, far smoother.

Privacy mode is nice, but not exactly an innovation.

Yeah, most of my extensions haven't been updated, yet, but that's far more a fact of life these days than it is a complaint.

No rendering problems I can find during normal use...

I wish they hadn't postponed the new tab switcher, but if it's not ready yet it's probably for the best.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

Do not smite the beholder of life and death.

LakotaElf

LakotaElf reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

Yes Firefox is good and I use it, but the way some people in this forum act you would think Jesus had returned. It is computer software, not a matter of life and death.

bittermann

bittermann reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

The best browser just got better. Fast stable and way more secure than IE. As long as they keep fixing the security flaws as fast as they find them they have a winner...

Aegis69

Aegis69 reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

Storytellerofsci-fiction thats a great name for you, since the story you are telling is pure science fiction.

Firefox is about the bust out, this release is huge and will be a game changer.

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

Storytellerofsci-fiction is speaking of a trojan which AFAIK does NOT exploit Firefox... it simply installs an add-on in Firefox.

However, Firefox IMO takes sufficient steps to prevent malicious add-ons from being installed from within the Firefox UI (which is not the case here!)

I repeat... the trojan infects the user's PC through other means (trojans typically have the user open an e-mail attachment or download and run a file manually, IIRC this one is a download) and does NOT exploit any flaws in Firefox. Any legitimate program can add add-ons to Firefox, and so when your computer is already completely compromised it's no surprise that malware can do exactly the same thing.

For more information read this: http://blog.johnath.com/2008/12/08/firefox-malware/

mdmower

mdmower reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

This beta is running without incident on my Vista 32-bit thus far. Most of my add-ons are now available for 3.1. Rendering speed is leaps and bounds faster than 3.0.

Storytellerofsci-fiction, would you care to back up your claims with any EVIDENCE?

Storytellerofsci-fiction

Storytellerofsci-fiction reviewed v3.1 Beta 2 on Dec 8, 2008

I can't believe people buy into Mozilla's crap in the ways that they do. "A more secure and safer browsing experience", oh please sell that "crap" to someone "who refuses" to learn any better.

You can't add a bunch of extensions (I.E. Add-Ons) to "anything", without allowing a lot of places to crack the Utility.

Their selling "pie in the sky folks and your buying it". Stay faithful they'll disappoint you all eventually or you'll just "wake up". I use Firefox 3 but don't be looking for a crap load of extensions in my Browser....ha ha ha.

What bull****. I have to giggle so bad when folks talk about how secure it is. Hell there was a exploit just released to target Firefox that hides itself as a Greasemonkey script... Too Funny.

I guess 20% percent of Browser Market share was the tipping point for the Malware writer's Firefox is in their gun sites now. Enjoy your more safer browsing experience folks.... ha ha ha. Do you actually read the articles before you post the links folks.......

http://www.techjaws.com/tag/firefox-exploit/

Or go over here for more detail that an exploit dude.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/154931/.html?tk=rss

It just doesn't sit there hiding and doing nothing read a little more talk a little less..cya.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Nov 28, 2008

It seems that Seamonkey is making faster progress than Firefox and in many ways is the better of the two browsers. The hassle of testing this browser isn't worth the risk. Especially as I'm running 64bit Vista.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v2.0.0.18 on Nov 27, 2008

Open .MHTML in any browser is the minimum.
Firefox not able open .MHTML files.
How old are Netscape, Mozilla or FF project or called anyway?
Least could be a minimum.
other
Many people runnin XP,Vista and wondered why making program for Win9x?
simple
Win9x better than XP

borisf98

borisf98 reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 24, 2008

3.04 version works fine on Windows XP, but does not on Vista SP1. Multiple crashes and freezes.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 23, 2008

I don't understand why Firefox NEVER can display flash animations without dragging your high powered cpu down to a crawl. Its been this way for years. And its dang annoying when IE doesn't even have this problem. Firefox seems to always be loaded with bugs, something IE also rarely has. The ONLY reason I continue to use Firefox is due to the spyware built into IE by Microsoft.

SlapShot

SlapShot reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 22, 2008

I love using Firefox but this latest release, 3.0.4. is just awful, a lot of crashes

ubermann

ubermann reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 18, 2008

V3 is slowly starting to act more and more like iexplorer.
V3 got horrible bugs and you can see that on many many users reporting that its a memory hog with up to 100meg used RAM.
It sometimes cant kill its thread and stays active in background without notice to the user and makes your OS pretty slow without the user haveing any idea what is wrong.
Its becoming the target for more and more virus and script writers as its getting used by alot more people so that is the new target.
And its far from fast any more.

V2 was ok to use and i have no complains at all.
But tabbed browsing i have to call Opera cuz firefox in standard mode does not use tabs very good but opens up the program instead and that demand RAM.

For new computers this is not a big problem but it is still a problem that is not solved yet and does not seem to be solved either.

Kill of V3 and continue V2 as that one was on right track.
Opera is ALOT better if you give it 1 day or 2 and i can promise you that you wont switch back again.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 13, 2008

after upgrading to 3.0.4 from 3.0.3 my firefox keeps crashing the instant I open it. They effed up something royally.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 13, 2008

@ horsecharles - powerless because extensions not being compatible ?!
what are you talking about...
You can simply compatible all extensions with NTT extension or in about config...

and I test hourly build Fx3.1 and Its faster than Chrome, Opera...
only Safari is better...

see by yourself...

http://dromaeo.com/
http://www2.webkit.org/p...ider-0.9/sunspider.html

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 13, 2008

I can't believe how slow this thing still is. Loads slower than Photoshop CS4 and thats just to speed dial. Renders slower than Opera and while the plugins are great having to constantly rely on people to find the time to update every plugin most new releases break is a joke. It's still a memory hog despite what fanboy(and girls) say. I trust what my process manager says over their hot air.

BUT, BUT, my biggest gripe about this program is the way it mimics apple in its intrusiveness. When I use a portable app I want it only my usb stick and I don't want it creating folders on the C drive. Bottom line here is that it installs itself in areas I don't ask it to

roj

roj reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 12, 2008

Who cares about install time? That's pretty cheap if that's all you have to brag about - and indeed that's all there is to brag about. When it starts for the first time after any login, it's dead slow out of the starting gate - and everyone knows it although the apologists bend over backwards to make excuses for it.

I also agree that it has no corporate or mass market future, not the least because it's not sustainable from an extension perspective and without those extensions, it's useless. New versions inevitably break things and pages that display perfectly in IE (right here on FileForum is a good example) do not under FF. Of course there will be arguments that the IE Tab extension remedies that - but the extension architecture is broken as iterated above, so the "point" is moot.

It's a nice enthusiast browser but the hype about enhanced speed and security over the competition are just the result of fanboi blinders and have absolutely no foundation in reality.

I'll give it a three and a half star rating rounded up to FOUR because it's usable in its current incarnation - which is more than I can say for its predecessors. That of course is contingent on adding at least six or seven carefully chosen extensions which of course will undoubtedly break (AGAIN!!) when 3.1 makes it out the door.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 12, 2008

Install using the -ms switch and it installs in under 7 seconds.

Let's see IE or any other browser do that with a patch/security fix.

Yes the -ms install is unattended silent install.

Many corporations run and support it fine. I work for one of them, and we encourage FF use throughout our domain and support it fully. I have taught a few classes to our users the direct advantages of using Firefox with extensions over IE, and we see about a 40% adoption rate. I don't knock IE in these classes, I just show how firefox can do things a tad better.

Any corporate IT manager can package FF as an MSI or script out installs in seconds. You can easily lock it down to prevent tinkering, in addition.

We have FF set as default browser in a kiosk environment. There has never been an exploit with hundreds of users tinkering.

In our practice area, even our main vendor supports firefox, and our single largest client encourages its use over our site-to-site VPN because of the ease of use with setting up profiles and proxies.

Now I will admit extensions and themes breaking on major releases. I'll readily admit that that is FF achille's heel. Even modern themes for the current version have quirks, so I myself stay away from them. But you put extensions such as adblock, noscript, and greasemonkey, and it really lets you control the web, as opposed to vice versa.

And I like Chrome's feel, but it isn't extensible yet and I doubt they'd be cool with adblocking, since that is google's bread and butter.

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 12, 2008

HEY MJM: What does that -ms parameter do? Unattended install? Got a linky explaining it? Thanks

REVIEW:

This is not a bad browser at all. But it is not nearly as good as it could / should be for an OpenSource project, imo.

I think the concept of a slim initial client that can be extended via plug-ins is a sound one. But the way that it is implemented in this project leaves a lot to be desired.

Updates to the browser have frequently broken not only plug-ins, but skins as well, and that is simply not necessary if the coding was done more effectively, with compatibility in mind.

Many tools that USED to work with Firefox no longer do, and waiting for those that are left alive to be updated to work with the latest Firefox release can be incredibly annoying.

I very much like that Mozilla has not gone the way of IE 7 and Opera 9 and changed the order of interface elements.

I have grown used to having the order of appearance as follows:

Menu Bar
Tool Bar / Address Bar
Links Bar
Tab Bar

I find it to be familiar and productive, and think that this skin - PAST MODERN - is an incredibly well-done and efficient creation, in terms both of size and functionality and represents the way third party contributions should be done, imo.

https://addons.mozilla.o...n-US/firefox/addon/7249

I'd still prefer to give this program a core value of 3.5 instead of a 4, but feel on the Windows side at least, it is closer to a 4 than a 3.

Firefox for Linux is a completely different animal, and if I was rating the Linux version, I'd have to hammer it for how poorly it renders fonts in comparison to Opera.

I like that you can easily disable the "Awesome Bar" and that you can enable active Spell Checking, which is a very, very good feature and very well implemented in Firefox, imo.

So, with all of that said, and the fact that this brand new release seems to work fine installed over the top of the previous release (nothing seems broken), a rating of 4 it gets.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v3.0.4 on Nov 12, 2008

Virtual_ManPL Nov 1, 2008
Version: 3.0.3

The BEST browser for me !!!
Secure, fast, stable and powerfull with extensions !!!
________________________________________________

Yah, right... see how slow, unstable & powerless this build(as most new builds) is vis a vis extensions not being compatible.

Also, pray that an announcement re a total new redesign from the ground up for v 4 or 5... and perhaps a totally different new name... doesn't rear its ugly head.

Rating:

for personal use, if you can tolerate the constant redesigns & resulting incompatibilities-- 2.5

for production / mission-critical: 1-- and that's being generous.

BelgianWaffle

BelgianWaffle reviewed v2.0.0.18 on Nov 12, 2008

I would really prefer Mozilla putting in effort fixing holes and all the other problems in version 3....

ubermann

ubermann reviewed v2.0.0.18 on Nov 12, 2008

Ahh i hope they continue v2 as v3 made me go over to Opera (found it much better. when you try it for 1 day or 2)
I have had several computers and on everyone since the birth of V3 i get a bug where firefox is still running in the background after i closed it down.
I have seen it on my brothers computer also.
Its no small bug cuz its sitting in the background and eating ~50 meg ram and consuming alot of cpu time.
I never ever had that on V2 and i dont use ANY addon or such for V3.
But after trying opera it was like when i switch from explorer to firefox, it was so much easier to browse the web.
Firefox dont even use the so called tabs when you start it.
In opera you only use 1 window with tabs so its alot nicer to your RAM and it feels alot faster everything i do in it.

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.0.3 on Nov 1, 2008

The BEST browser for me !!!
Secure, fast, stable and powerfull with extensions !!!

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Nov 1, 2008

The BEST browser for me !!!
Secure, fast, stable and powerfull with extensions !!!

Virtual_ManPL

Virtual_ManPL reviewed v2.0.0.17 on Nov 1, 2008

The BEST browser form me !!!
Secure, fast, stable and powerfull with extensions !!!

But its time ppl to migrate on Fx 3

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Oct 16, 2008

Seems OK. I'll wait for the final, though.

CyberDoc999

CyberDoc999 reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Oct 15, 2008

Wow!

morganevans

morganevans reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Oct 15, 2008

@camelon02: It's your mouse. Right click works fine for me.

@mjm01010101: Stop whining about insignificant features like 3D tab switching - you don't have to use it Extensions are part of Firefox's life-blood, so please don't knock the effort of a hell of a lot of people. Again, you don't even have to use them.

camelon02

camelon02 reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2008

This is the first time I've had an obvious problem with a beta or alpha version of Firefox. Right-click would not do anything for me in the 3.1 Beta 1. I was able to use the 3.0.3 without any problem, but no matter what site I am on, my right click on the mouse and on my laptop touchpad would do nothing. Yikes!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.1 Beta 1 on Oct 14, 2008

For the first time in a long time, I am marking down Firefox. This is the start of feature creep that is outside the realm of the original tenets of this browser: lean browsing, standards compliance, secure browsing.

Somebody please fork FF and bring it back to its roots of browser ONLY, no extraneous extensions or add-ons or 3-d effects.

Sad. :(

morganevans (above) If Betanews wants its users to review software, that is what I will do. It is not whining when I am dissatisfied with the direction a product I love is taking.

wdc

wdc reviewed v3.0.3 on Oct 1, 2008

stupid toolbars and buttons, staying with v2.xx

rhy7s

rhy7s reviewed v3.0.3 on Oct 1, 2008

Steve1209 said:I had a Firefox ICON & an IE ICON on my desktop, I wanted to compare the two. When I clicked on my IE ICON it had been changed to open Firefox instead of the IE8 beta which had been working before.

You sure that wasn't a url link? Firefox won't have replaced IE8, but it does give you the option of being your default browser. Re: the release, solid as usual, no complaints.

rebradley

rebradley reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 29, 2008

This is the first time I've ever had a problem with Firefox. The password manager is broken. You have to log on to passworded sites every time you restart firefox 3.03. Hope that 3.04 comes out soon and it fixes this. If not I may have to check out some alternatives.

Steve1209

Steve1209 reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 28, 2008

Hi rhy7s,

NO it wasn't a URL, my IE8 ICON on my desktop was changed to open FF after I downloaded this version! I understand the default browser BUT why would FF change IE8 beta 2 desktop ICON to open FF, just to make sure I'm going to do this download again & make sure what happens, I'll update this again when I'm done with this reply!

Steve

ArKay74

ArKay74 reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 27, 2008

Security fixes, nothing to review but nice to have I guess.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 27, 2008

Couldn't download it either from here also. But went to Firefox's homepage to get it. Which is listed above right. Seems to be a small fix.

mikeyx11

mikeyx11 reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 27, 2008

Great software. Nothing beats Firefox when used with extensions such as Adblock Plus, WOT, Piclens and Video Downloadhelper.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

That was a quick release, but 3.0.2 was apparently broken. Changes: "Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved passwords or save new passwords."

Genital.Joe

Genital.Joe reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

"Good alternative browser" bigmama? Alternative to what?
Lovely review.

This with AdBlock Plus, and R.I.P. extensions is pure safe surfing heaven. Nothing comes close. With the extensions and themes, what better alternatives are there?

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

Moz blocking.

spiked

spiked reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

This is currently declared beta, but I believe the directory path on the ftp site reflects the fact that this is a VERY minor fix to 3.0.2 and thus the beta will probably become a final release as-is, after a short sanity-check period. Firefox 3.0.3 fixes only one bug which unfortunately happened to be considered a show-stopper for some users of 3.0.2 (unable to retrieve saved passwords or save new passwords).

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

good alternative browser

Andy Dean

Andy Dean reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

Not a beta. It's under the releases section on their ftp site.

LordSky

LordSky reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

This is a beta1 release to fix the retrieve/storing password issue.

http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0.3/releasenotes/

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

wow that was quick!!

catchpole

catchpole reviewed v3.0.3 on Sep 26, 2008

new update already? last one was about 2 days ago...weird. still best browser there is.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 24, 2008

The king of browsers

Somnambulator

Somnambulator reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 24, 2008

i dont think it's a beta since it shows up on FF updater (gives an erorr that it cant DL)

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v2.0.0.17 on Sep 24, 2008

Personally, I do not like FF 3. I don't like the incompatiblity with my most used addons, I don't like the database bookmark system, and I don't like the location bar functions.
Not to mention, I have a good 7Mb DSL service and a fairly fast computer, I noticed no speed differential in the two.

I hope they keep FF2 around a lot longer, it does everything I need in a browser.

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer XP Pro over Vista, too. Go figure.

acey99

acey99 reviewed v2.0.0.17 on Sep 24, 2008

ok, as much as I love FF. I gotta know, why release more of the bug ridden 2.0 series, hasn't everybody been pointed to FF3 ?

Note to the mozilla group:
Kill FF < 3

why,why why? :(

Ryusennin

Ryusennin reviewed v2.0.0.17 on Sep 23, 2008

Security update.

http://mozilla.com/en-US...x/2.0.0.17/releasenotes/

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

Excellent final release 3.0.2!

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0.2/win32/

OR

http://releases.mozilla....la.org/firefox/releases/

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

http://www.mozilla.com/e...efox/3.0.2/releasenotes/

It's a beta release people.

This has undoubtedly with the help of my fellow geeks(not necessary the people on BN, some people here are positively mindless)all over the world became the greatest browser for those who want to make the web their own, to navigate in whatever way suits you.

It has its quirks and a few little annoyances, but there is nothing better...Google Chrome, while faster, it will never measure up to this anytime soon.

sjc001

sjc001 reviewed v2.0.0.17 on Sep 23, 2008

Why is there still new version 2s of Firefox?

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

Let's see.
IE: every patch requires a reboot of the OS, interrupting work product and increasing my "TCO,"

or firefox, where an install of a patch can take 5 seconds using -ms switch and I'm back up and running.

Yeah, tough choice.

As for BN releasing the file "early." 1. BN doesn't host it, they link directly to ftp.mozilla.com , and 2. BN just links to it when it is greenlit. The mozilla update pages are the last to get updated.

ModderXManiac - check your link. See how it's not beta? Now you get it.

arossetti

arossetti reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

I have to agree at least in part with preinterpost on this one...though the file is from Mozilla, it is clearly a BETA build and should be relabeled as such. Great browser, though.

jafo818

jafo818 reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

Awesome browser. I'll wait tete009's build though.

preinterpost, you're an idiot. The file isn't being sent from BetaNews, it is sent directly from Mozilla's FTP site.

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

There's a lot to like about this browser, but there are a lot of things that aren't so great as well.

First off - to get rid of that "Awesome Bar" junk, try this:

Type this into the address field: about:config

Change browser.urlbar.matchonlytyped = TRUE instead of FALSE

If you still get some sites listed when you type in entries, try deleting the bookmarks off of your Bookmarks Toolbar. I think that's a bug of some kind and annoying as heck too. I only found out by accident.

Now - the Past Modern theme is about the most space efficient and cool one ever, so that's good. Tab Mix Plus is another great thing to have installed.

Thankfully, this 3.0.2 update doesn't seem to actually BREAK any extensions or themes, which is one of the most annoying things about this application.

And I agree that the bookmark handling just does not feel intuitive.

I like that you can have a bunch of tabs open and choose to "Bookmark All Tabs" so you can recall them as a group, and I really like the Bookmark Toolbar.

But trying to organize all of those bookmarks can be a chore after a while. I really wish they would rework / rethink bookmark management. Fund some usability studies, get some ideas and come up with something that is more intuitive when dealing with bookmarks in bulk.

I'd give this thing a 3.5 if that was an option, but it isn't and I just don't think it merits a rating of 4.

There are too many quirks, rendering issues and niggling compatibility annoyances.

Plus, it seems that I get more pop-up stuff in Firefox than in Maxthon 1.6.

If you can be patient and spare the time to find the right extensions that will give you the functionality you need / want, then you should be good to go for the most part.

But man, tracking some of those down can really be a pain, especially if they up and "Broke" the compatibility with some of those extensions when they did an upgrade to the browser.

I do like the "Check spelling as I type" feature, but would really like to have them build in the ability to define and automatically recall the starting location and window size when starting the app.

Firesizer is a cute little extension, but it doesn't allow you to define the starting location, and you need to manually pick from the list on the status bar.

I'd rather that they just built the feature into the core program. I'd even like it if they would allow you to save various "layouts" that you can easily recall when needed. Sort of like how they have it setup in Free Commander.

So, all that said, it's a nice option, but it's still in need of some serious streamlining, especially in the development process. Stop breaking our favorite themes and extensions when you issue a new update, ok?

Lastly, they have GOT to do something about that urlclassifier3.sqlite file. That thing just gets HUGE. There has GOT to be a better way to handle the protection than creating a huge bloated file that goes under your "Documents and Settings" area.

It's like the "pagefile.sys" thing - you don't want it included in your backup, so do us a favor and move it to the Program Files area so when we drag and drop our D&C folders to our external backup drives, we don't have to carry all that baggage with it. Thank you in advance, Mozilla.\

If you don't want that big old file, I think I found a way to avoid it. No guarantees though, but here's the link:

http://ychittaranjan.wor...qlite-woes-on-firefox-3/

Enjoy

preinterpost

preinterpost reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

The rating doesn't go for the program (doesn't make a difference to FF...) but to BN.

You post this crap here while the internal FF update doesn't find it and the FF site does not mention it on the release notes link (neither do you post any release notes yourself). So you vomit this binary out here (as a site pick), which who the hell knows where you found it - as you did several times (some of which misleadingly calling a Beta a Release). This is ultra lame quality control.

Folks - something as essential as a Browser (you prob do online banking with it and what not) you do NOT want to pull from BN. Take it from the official FF site or the inline update.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

good but it's my 3rd choice.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0.2 on Sep 23, 2008

Good browser. Definately better than IE. Still, not even close to Opera, imho.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 15, 2008

This thing is wickedly fast.
What else can I say? Nothing.

Great work folks.

myboy

myboy reviewed v3.0.1 on Sep 13, 2008

Memory and CPU usage is crawling back up again. Choppy scrolling when there is a fixed background image. Firefox would freeze for a few seconds mid-scroll. Flash support is wonky in that it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't (the cure, Flash 10 beta, is worse than the disease). Also, there's a disturbing trend of software programs automatically installing Add-ons without the browser being physically open so I can deny them from installing in the first place. And even if I accidentally allowed it to be installed, why is the "Uninstall" button allowed to be greyed out (Java Quick Starter for example)? And finally, when you close Firefox, it still stays in the task manager until is SLOWLY releases the memory that it is using up.

I don't know what's happening but there seems to be a regression. I liked the betas a bit more. This version seems slower and clunkier.

Undesired Username

Undesired Username reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 9, 2008

When I first saw the title of this post--"Mozilla Firefox (Shiretoko) for Windows 3.1", I kept thinking, "Why would they make a version of Firefox for Windows 3.1?" LOL

I agree about how extensions and plugins are a mixed bag of evil. You really need them to make Firefox worth using, but dealing with all of them separately, and the compatibility/versioning issues, is a real pain.

The saying "Too many cooks spoils the broth" is common in English as well. (There are variations of the saying, but the point remains the same.)

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 8, 2008

BruddaMan, while i agree that the internal version system of addons is a pain in the butt (because it categorically forces restriction of compatibility, where compatibility is actually given under the hood), you should know that this is easy to fix with the "nightly tester tools"-addon.

i use firefox but i will always downrate it a little, because there are so many stupid things about it, that could be fixed so easily, if someone had a vision and authority. how do you translate "zu viele köche verderben den brei"?
ah, yeah, google knows: too many cooks spoil the broader .. (lol, mash pap porridge whatever)

BruddaMan

BruddaMan reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 8, 2008

its not good that upgrades break extensions and themes and you have to wait for new updates and that sucks. extensions are good and you can choose what to put in and only use a features that you want or need and not have to settle for too many bloat features you dont need. but you need extensions to make it worth using.

godofthunder

godofthunder reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 8, 2008

2 browsers are GOD. OPERA & Firefox.

The more they battle it out, the better and safer they get.

@photonboy > > Be weary of CHROME. Do not use for your internet banking. READ THE EULA!

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 7, 2008

Already this version is portable so I overwrote the folder and wow. FAST.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 6, 2008

Had to update Tab Mix Plus to the latest development version. Other than that everything else went smooth. Another great alpha release.

wognum

wognum reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 6, 2008

For Windows 3.1

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 6, 2008

No problems noted. Updating can sometimes break plugins because they may be linked to the version number.

No Beta yet.
The Beta was delayed apparently until October.

Google Chrome.
I'm now using Chrome. After reading how it was created I was very, very impressed. Things are split into separate processes which run independently. For example, one Tab has no bearing on another and a hung Javascript call won't hang the whole browser because processes run parallel/independently. (It needs more plugins and options but Google said they're concentrating on rock-solid stability firt.)

I think Google Chrome is going to end up my main browser.

Ryusennin

Ryusennin reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

3.1 alpha 2?

Wait a sec... 3.1 beta 1 has been available for two weeks now.

Darkman00

Darkman00 reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

I am using currently FireFox 3 (3.0.1 actually or something like that) when it comes to FireFox...

As a regular user.. do you recommend me to switch to this Beta 3.1 (or whatever it is called) .. or just wait until it will become an official release from FireFox (FireFox 3.1 say)?

Thanks :)

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

So far so good.. Had to use Nightly Tester Tools to get my extensions working. I read posts where Mr. Tech worked, but I couldn't get it working without NTT. So far no crashes or issues I can see. Certainly seems faster too.

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

AsianAngel, TraceMonkey is only in the nightly builds, not in Alpha 2.

SimSalabim

SimSalabim reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

I used to use Firefox 2.

AsianAngel

AsianAngel reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

I have been REALLY looking forward to this release with the TraceMonkey JavaScript rendering engine. ^__^ This should be a lot of fun to try out. ^__^

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

i used to use opera

Scary Guy

Scary Guy reviewed v3.1 Alpha 2 on Sep 5, 2008

"Mozilla Firefox (Shiretoko) for Windows 3.1 (alpha 2)"

You have no idea how funny that is to read in the title.

aszure

aszure reviewed v3.0.1 on Aug 31, 2008

I think that a browser its itself is a fairly insecure tool. Many things are sent plain text, browsers are susceptible to and aid in the distribution of spyware/malware. So to say, "well FF isnt secure" is just stating a fact. There would be more infections to opera if there were more opera users. That being said, FF3 is much better and faster than FF2. With a workaround, you can get FF2 extensions working fine. I have used it since its big ol release day, and never use IE. If I need to render something with IE, then I use the IE Tab for FF and problem solved.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v3.0.1 on Aug 17, 2008

its still an insecure browser like IE. you may loose your work, if you click on the following link, as you will have to restart (kill) the browser and dismiss the saved session.

http://swampsupnostrils.teks.no/1.html

opera has a "stop executing scipts"-checkbox on those dialoges which will create an endless loop otherwise, and prevent you from accessing the GUI/other tabs, the close button, the hotkeys.

firefox has no good popupblocker. it will block either everything and you have to create thousand exeptions manually. or nothing. and without adblock its popup horror like in 1995 with IE 3

i do use firefox btw. thats why it bothers me.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0.1 on Aug 5, 2008

Major disappointment with this final release. The web page speed is good. But after that its all down hill. I hate the new url drop down menu screen. Which you can't seem to erase no matter what you do in the privacy settings. The bookmark management is a mess. I always like the original mozilla, than Seamonkey bookmark set up. Firefox 1.5 and 2 weren't great, but were manageable. This is terrible. Most of my plug in's didn't come over. I know i have read theres ways to get around that, but the point is, why should you have to. Like IE7, Firefox has sadly jumped the shark.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 29, 2008

Installed & uninstalled faster than any program in recent memory and wrote only one reg entry I think.. Overwrote my portable FF and all extensions and everything works fine. Apparently MrTech Toolkit really is a blessing for ff as shiretoko states the only addon I have that works of the 12 I use is sxipper and I don't see any difference other than the browser now has a japanese monster name.

asmithz

asmithz reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

Shiretoko / Gecko 1.9.1 Alpha 1 introduces several new features:

* Web standards improvements in the Gecko layout engine
* Test API for the element
* Support for using border images
* Support for JavaScript query selectors
* Several improvements to the Smart Location Bar
* A new tab switching behavior

Won't work enless I disable my firewall, but I do that anyway, so I am fine with it.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

Sorry Adrian79 & TGB72 if you were too stupid to do a complete profile backup before installing an ALPHA program.

In my experience, this alpha of 3.1 is fantastic. The new features are already well implemented, and the list of bugs is -- or seems to be -- relatively short.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

thanks for the tip below dude, I had some issue with 3.0beta 2.. i was pissed!

actually, still using 2.0.0.16

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

This alpha version should be portable, it erased all my firefox profile including extensions and all the data of scrapbook, f**** cr*p.

Terry6v

Terry6v reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

Is this the same as the 3.01 that is installed from the browser update tool? Would like to know before I comment on it..

coover

coover reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

I put this on my Windows 3.1 machine and it didn't work (SOB). Oh well, it works fairly well on my Vista machines.

burfadel

burfadel reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

Thats exactly what I thought when I first saw it! Instead of calling it 'Firefox fox Windows 3.1', they should call it (and for that matter exery version across every platform) 'Firefox x.xx for [os]' in this case, 'Firefox 3.1 for Windows'.

I was going to give it 4 for this naming error, but since Firefox would normally be rated a '6' :D I thought 5 would be more appropriate ;)

statm1

statm1 reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

At first glance you might think that wouldn't you.. lol

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v3.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 28, 2008

For a moment, I thought that this was a version of FF that runs on the Windows 3.1 OS ... I wondered why anyone would have bothered. ;)

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 25, 2008

Choosing a browser is a zero sum game. They all have their quirks and problems. This browser shows programs that are no longer on my system.

Mick Leong

Mick Leong reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 23, 2008

Ever since ver 2+ firefox have been giving me problems with SVG graphics. It just plain refuse to display them when firefox 1.5 works beautifully.

cricri_pingouin

cricri_pingouin reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 20, 2008

Works well for me, no complaints so far. I did have to modify some compatible version numbers in a couple of add-ons since 3.0, but everything runs well.

pwned32

pwned32 reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 19, 2008

in 3.0 adblock plus worked fine.. now it no longer works

Landsnes

Landsnes reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 19, 2008

Impressive!

I find v3 of Firefox better and much faster than v2. It's refined and optimized!

Highly recommended!

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 18, 2008

if FIREFOX dont want we use it
we dont use it
rest in peace FIREFOX
good bye

Ryusennin

Ryusennin reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 17, 2008

@Alan

http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7031

Joco

Joco reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 17, 2008

Installed over 2.0.16, works perfectly. Bookmarks, saved login/pwd are all preserved. No problem either regarding AdBlock Plus plugin. May be Flash player is broken but I think I can sort that out later. I like better the GUI of v3 I think I'll stay with it for good.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 17, 2008

It works excellently. @Adrian79: that was a beta, this is version 3.01. I shouldn't think you'll lose any bookmarks this time.

I delayed for a while because almost no extensions would work with any of the early betas I tried, so I went back to version 2. If Tab Mix Plus gets updated soon I'll be a happy bunny; all the other extensions I use work fine.

osric

osric reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 17, 2008

hedskes: As stated in the Security Advisory, the "feature" that you require has been removed from this version onwards to avoid a security vulnerability. As a workaround, you may add those websites as your homepages and set Firefox to show the homepages when it loads.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 17, 2008

i'm sticking with 2.0 for now, last time i checked a beta out for 3.0 i lost all my bookmarks!!!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 17, 2008

Firefox 3.0.1 fixed several issues found in Firefox 3.

* Fixed several security issues.
* Fixed several stability issues.
* Fixed an issue where the phishing and malware database did not update on first launch.
* Under certain circumstances, Firefox 3.0 did not properly save the SSL certificate exceptions list.
* Updated the internal Public Suffix list.
* In certain cases, installing Firefox 2 in the same directory in which Firefox 3 has been installed resulted in Firefox 2 being unstable. This issue was fixed as part of Firefox 2.0.0.15.
* Fixed an issue where, when printing a selected region of content from the middle of a page, some of the output was missing (bug 433373).
* Fixed a Linux issues where, for users on a PPP connection (dialup or DSL) Firefox always started in "Offline" mode (bug 424626).

hedskes

hedskes reviewed v3.0 on Jul 16, 2008

I used to start Firefox with a batch file containing this:

START /MAX firefox "http://mozilla.com/|http://spreadfirefox. com/|http://getfirefox.com/|http://mozilla.org/"

This worked fine until Mozilla Firefox 3.0.1.0.
Now the URL is not splitted anymore by the pipe (|), so instead of opening Firefox with multiple tabs I now only get a single tab with an error message.

I think this has something to do with:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2008/ mfsa2008-35.html

How can I start Firefox from the commandline with multiple tabs using Mozilla Firefox 3.0.1.0?

joeshmoe7

joeshmoe7 reviewed v3.0 on Jul 16, 2008

Works great, just installed it over 3.0, no problem with anything.

EDIT: umm well it says i reviewed 3.0 - that's odd, this is for 3.0.1 :)

GrailKnight

GrailKnight reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 16, 2008

Working fine here and no high memory usage.
68 extensions installed and stable as can be.

Just a 5 no more no less.

turistas

turistas reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 16, 2008

i just tried to open 5 tabs in firefox 3.01 and opera 9.5. both used about 100mb of ram, i like firefox better;)

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 16, 2008

Paul Skinner said:

"It gets 2 for being better than IE and 1 for having Firebug, but loses 2 for using so much memory when it isn't necessary."

Now, I'm no rocket scientist, but isn't doesn't 2 plus 1 minus 2 equal 1?

2+1-2=1.

Yep. Pretty sure it does.

Then why did you rate it a 3?

Cris3

Cris3 reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 16, 2008

Firefox uses less memory then any of the other major browsers. Here an article comparing them:

http://www.infoworld.com...ns_memory_battle_1.html

Firefox rocks...!

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v3.0.1 on Jul 16, 2008

It gets 2 for being better than IE and 1 for having Firebug, but loses 2 for using so much memory when it isn't necessary.

*Edit* For smartarse above:

2+1 = 3
5 (max score) -3 = 2

I was refering to where the other two points out of the 5 went.

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 16, 2008

I thought it worth mentioning that anyone can participate by downloading Gran Paradiso (FF3) or Bon Echo (FF2), get nightly builds, and be a part of the project.

mytake4this

mytake4this reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 16, 2008

FF3 works fine for me, with one exception. It can lose the sub folders in bookmarks. I have Opera, so I exported as HTML, all the bookmarks to a folder on Windows, then Imported the bookmarks and moved them to tool bar bookmarks. I work off the toolbar links.Once I got the bookmarks working, everything is fine. And there is Ad Block for FF3. That said, FF2 is also excellent. Only lagging browser, in my view, is the IE6 & 7.

jgra

jgra reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

IhavehadnoprovlemswithFF3,sometimesitgetsstuckwhen
tomanytavsareopenvutheysoislife...

IcantwaitforFireFox7

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

Only issue I had with FF3 was adblock isn't supported (and for some reason the extension blocker doesn't block it.) I upgraded to adblock + and no issues since.

FF3 is far more stable for me otherwise.

DonGato

DonGato reviewed v3.0 on Jul 15, 2008

A really good release of Firefox. It's outstanding the speed increase in rendering pages and handling multiple tabs (I mean more than 20). Also much more stable than version 2, at least for me.

The "awesome bar" is really useful. At first I didn't like it much but after a couple of days I wouldn't know what to do with out it.

By this time Extension/Theme support is quite alright. Major extensions and themes are already being supported.

And I do some custom tuning on userChrome to reduce the bookmarks menu. If you want to reduce it then just add these lines to userChrome.css:

/* Remove Bookmarks menu unused items */
#subscribeToPageMenuitem,
#bookmarksMenuPopup menuseparator[builder="start"],
#bookmarksMenuPopup menu[label="Recently Bookmarked"],
#bookmarksMenuPopup menuitem[command="Browser:BookmarkAllTabs"] { display: none !important; }

rburly

rburly reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

I had so many problems with FF3 that I had to drop back to FF2. Fortunately Mozilla has continued with these last two upgrades. The best browser stays the best. FF3 just came out too early.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

I don't use FF3 yet. Firefox 3=Room Full Of Bugs!

us3r

us3r reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

It's weird. Why do they still support version 2.0 ? There wasn't any updates for months because of version 3.0 development. And now AFTER official Firefox 3.0 relese they go back to version 2.0 instead of making necessary fixes and improvements for version 3.0.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

good

anonymous_user

anonymous_user reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

3.0 is the final version but version 2 is still being supported. 2.0.0.16 is just security fixes.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

home page shows version 3.0 as final?!?

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

Walmart!

pjafrombbay

pjafrombbay reviewed v2.0.0.16 on Jul 15, 2008

I checked the Mozilla website; there DOES NOT seem to be a version 2.0.0.16 of Firefox!

Where does this one come from?

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v3.0 on Jul 8, 2008

oink, oink, the memory hog is back.
153megson ff3, same site on ie is 86megs.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 5, 2008

trojan server
access localhost any
full file system
and make open all ports for hackers

Joco

Joco reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 2, 2008

After installing, the about screen will show up and there is a link to the release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/p...es.html#firefox2.0.0.15

pforbes

pforbes reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 2, 2008

Excellent. Thank you for keeping version 2. It allows me using the same explorer on dual boot XP-98 for both OS.
BTW I use 98 for old programs and, more important than that, as an excellent substitute for the recovery console: in case of need you only have to start with 98, delete XP and copy-paste a previous copy preserved on an external HD, which means restoring XP from scratch in less than 5 minutes. No need of killing Win98 at all!.

Mick Leong

Mick Leong reviewed v3.0 on Jul 2, 2008

Yes its overrated. There are more problems with v3 compared to v2x.

It cannot save some web pages now as it keep waiting to grab photobucket linkes images etc. It should just ignore timeout files and continue to save the rest. Saving web pages now uses the download file control to save and causes current file transfer to abort in some situations when trying to save some "badly designed" web pages or pages that firefox cannot handle.

They have now grabbed 10 (7 rows+2 line) rows of my bookmark dropdown list. Space is a premium on widescreen laptops!

It has lost the ability to set min font size and therefore cannot be used to view some sites that uses very very small fonts. Why do they keep changing the plugin interface? Why does every version causes current plugins to fail?

I am gonna back to v2....

Trgiaol

Trgiaol reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 1, 2008

I'm not a big fan of Firefox 3, glad to see they're still updating 2

RedBoar

RedBoar reviewed v3.0 on Jul 1, 2008

Slow, overrated and incompatible with Firefox add-ins, what a waste of a release.

cladeas

cladeas reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 1, 2008

if you're still using Win98SE, you need to KILL YOURSELF.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 1, 2008

Glad to see they are still updating v2 for the time being.
My experience w/ v3 so far , has been less than optimum

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 1, 2008

1. Because they don't like the loss of some extensions. (For instance adblock (the first one) doesn't work on V3 and some people don't want to change extensions.)
2. Because they aren't ready for it.
3. Because they like how V2 works.

My brother refuses to upgrade past 1.5 because of visual changes and the fact that Control+W no longer closes the browser (it closes tabs.)

SteveJohnSteele

SteveJohnSteele reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 1, 2008

odd!

I was surprised to see a new version of Firefox 2.

Why would people use 2.0.0.15 when 3.0 was released a short time ago?!

Still a very good browser.

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v2.0.0.15 on Jul 1, 2008

etalmar: The link was for Firefox 3 and was then changed back to Firefox 2 - that's why I wrote my comments for FF3 here.

Xmetalfanx

Xmetalfanx reviewed v3.0 on Jul 1, 2008

Despite what some have said, I have only had some minor problems with Firefox 3 .. mainly having to take a few seconds to update an addon or two... right now out of the @50 addons I use to use all the time with 2.x ... only "MAF" doesn't work with version 3.

Some also say, that sites do not display right ... really that is the webmaster's problem. I for instance, try to make my site exact in all (recent) browsers .. i really dislike seeing web developers write sites that are "IE only" so if you use Opera or Firefox, the display is all off.... if your really unsure of 3. ... Stick with 2.0.14 ... or get Version 3 and then go get "Firefox 2.0.14 Portable" (thats what I use when i need to save a page with "MAF" :D

paulm84

paulm84 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 25, 2008

for me it needs work still freezes and lot of themes dont' work on 3.0 yet

it's fast and has a lot of great features but i think i will wait for a few more updates before i give it a solid test run

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v3.0 on Jun 22, 2008

Wow, still does not support web standards (fails Acid3) and is highly insecure:

http://secunia.com/advisories/30761/

What an unbelievable security joke. Get the facts:

www.FirefoxMyths.com

glassdesigns

glassdesigns reviewed v3.0 on Jun 21, 2008

I love this browser for the way you can customize it. I do however take exception with the high memory usage. I'm seeing at least a 10% increase in memory usage from the previous 2.xxxx release. Considering it is being advertised as improving memory usage I am very disappointed. I am also not seeing any speed improvement. Maybe your tests can show better numbers but to the human eye they can't be noticed so I don't count that as an improvement. You can always blame it on addons but I am using the same ones in both versions so that is not an excuse. Speed and memory usage are not improved in this release in the real world. I don't care what your lab results are. Give us a truly lean fast browser. That is what you promised. You haven't delivered.

Follow up:
To be as fair as possible I tested this on a fresh install of Windows. After doing this I still see no difference in performance from my previous review. Actually now after running it for almost a week it has crashed on me 8 times. I don't think I ever had version 2 crash on me that many times ever. I fail to see what all the excitement is about with this version. I would like to know what all this faster hype is based on. I am raising my rating to 3 just because I believe Mozilla should get some credit for such a successful advertising campaign. They certainly have brainwashed the public on what they have delivered here.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v3.0 on Jun 21, 2008

The best just got even better, Unbelievable how good this browser is, time to donate I guess

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v3.0 on Jun 20, 2008

Firefox 3 is a loser for me. Pages won't load, login pages won't load, click on links, they go nowhere.

I'd already about had it with the new 'improved' location bar, and I cannot stand the new interface with it's double lines, listing of my own freaking bookmarks... I can search my OWN bookmarks, thanks, without them constantly showing in the 'history' dropdown.

I unistalled 3 just now, went back to 2.014, and EVERYTHING works again. I can login to my secure sites like before, blah blah.

Guess I'll just wait for 3.5 or something, cuz' this ain't gettin' it.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 20, 2008

Major disappointment with this final release. The web page speed is good. But after that its all down hill. I hate the new url drop down menu screen. Which you can't seem to erase no matter what you do in the privacy settings. The bookmark management is a mess. I always like the original mozilla, than Seamonkey bookmark set up. Firefox 1.5 and 2 weren't great, but were manageable. This is terrible. Most of my plug in's didn't come over. I know i have read theres ways to get around that, but the point is, why should you have to. My one google plug it says thats it can't install it because the site doesn't have a secure status. ITS FRIGGEN GOOGLE. You must be kidding me. Like IE7, Firefox has sadly jumped the shark.

Flebbo

Flebbo reviewed v3.0 on Jun 20, 2008

There must be something really wrong with this version. CPU usage is really high and sometimes it goes up to 99% and freezes...
I never had this problem with the former release. Please fix this!

etalmar

etalmar reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 20, 2008

Before I begin my review, I would like to say to reviewers "mackley", "1uk3" and "revparadigm" - if you carefully read the title of this browser review, your comments are supposed to pertain to Firefox version *2* - not Firefox version 3.

Now that we know what browser we are actually discussing,
I have been using Firefox 2 on a daily basis as my primary browser for a little over 7 months now and I have grown to like it very much, especially the add-ons plugins that you can choose from, which I feel is the main selling point of using Firefox.

As far as more secure, less secure, secure enough, that point can always be debated ad infinitum, so I am leaving it alone. I have read far too much about that to date. ALL browsers have security issues of varying kinds - enough said.

The main reasons why I am rating Firefox 2 a "4" and not a 5 is due to 2 things - poorly designed scrollbar functionality and mediocre right-click options for revising bookmarks. Neither of these features work as well as in IE 6. Now one would think that those features would be so basic and rudimentary that Mozilla would have designed them right the first time, but that is not the case, not even with current version 2.0.0.14.

Firefox 2 is a very good browser, especially for my aging Win98SE OS, but it still has a lot of important improvements to make in order to convince me to stop using IE 6 for good.

Undesired Username

Undesired Username reviewed v3.0 on Jun 19, 2008

I see NONE of the supposed improvements to CPU and memory use. If anything, it's worse, since with 3.0, I can't even open more than one YouTube video in a tab at a time, or NONE of them will work.

I am really getting sick of having to rely on volunteer third parties just to obtain essential browser functionality. Things like tab browsing features that BELONG in the core product itself.

And I love the people who think that this will be the perfect, absolutely secure browser. Enjoy this news tidbit:

"DV Labs/Tipping Point reported a flaw only five hours after Firefox 3.0 debuted. The flaw potentially lets an attacker take over a PC if a user clicks on a booby-trapped link."

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v3.0 on Jun 19, 2008

Opera doing better on the acid test and is also more stable and less cumbersome than this! Really disappointed with what came of v3. I thought Firefox would be leaner and more manageable, instead it's the same sputtering memory hog monster it has always been. Truly sad! :(

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v3.0 on Jun 19, 2008

Too Bad! High CPU usage, high memory usage and crash from time to time when surfing in "google" pages. I lost my browser? I don't think so! What happened?

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 19, 2008

I waited a day or 2 to download this so the extension writers could get caught up. No bugs, easy update.........all but 3 of my extensions worked out of the box (3 were updated when it started up)..............people who bash this browser either don't use it, don't have a clue about how to update it or are trolls. The best yet from Mozilla.

King of Holland

King of Holland reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

Just like I expected, it cannot properly update from FF2...

... and on top of that it's FULL of iritating bugs.

Calling this a FINAL ???????

Mozilla guys, don't stop pretenting your going to take over the world, you're actually going to lose a lot of customers with the crap FF3.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

What's with the stupid drop down history bar? Not only is there apparently no possible way to clear it but it's showing sites I haven't been to for over a year. Seems to be picking random sites from my bookmarks and showing them. It's useless and annoying. Did Mozilla even test this thing?

Edit: Changing the option "browser.urlbar.matchonlytyped" in about:config to "True" seems to fix this problem. It now only shows visited urls and they can be cleared.

osric

osric reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

@analphatester: With Firefox 3, the graphics module has been changed to CAIRO, which uses some APIs that do not exist on Win9x. So you'd have to stick to the 2.x branch until you upgrade your OS.

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

win9x version

? ? ? ?

johnusa

johnusa reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

Buggy, just like the beta, which this final version unfortunately still has not fixed.
I cannot get rid of the address bar history.
I tried everything, but failed.
Version 2.0.0.14 does not have this issue.

Update:
I just fixed this problem by doing the following:
open Firefox, and in the address bar type:
about:config
scroll down till you find this line:
browser.urlbar.maxRichResults
double click this line
modify the default 12 to 0
close and re-open Firefox
Problem is now fixed
Enjoy

Accioly

Accioly reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

The best. The remaining portion is remaining portion.

ukexpat

ukexpat reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

Anyone know where I can download the previous version? Thanks.

mackley

mackley reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 18, 2008

Mozilla Firefox 3 is really a good Web browser !

hardgiant

hardgiant reviewed v3.0 on Jun 18, 2008

Excellent update to FX2, the tab switching speed is awesome since I usually have plenty of tabs opened.

The launch speed has improved a lot but is still slower compared IE7.

The memory use is a lot lower usually under 200 megs and that's with 50 add-ons and plenty of tabs opened. With computers now coming with 2 to 4 gigs, memory usage is becoming less and less important as well.

The add-ons for firefox are still the best in terms of variety and support. If your using Vista I recommend Glasser and some of the stylish tweaks that make it look cool on Vista.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Its getting better but its far from the best as many who really don't know what they are talking about spout of with.

It only loads and renders fast, it only uses less memory when compared to previous versions not when compared to other browsers.

How something so barebones still uses the amount of memory it does and can load so slow is beyond me. Plugins are great but not needed to achieve the same thing in other browsers. For example Speed Dial or compact menu are standard or one line of code in a ini (which is done for you with custom buttons) in Opera. Foxy Proxy is the only reason I have this browser still otherwise it has no place on my system.

Don't beleive the hype and cheap tricks like setting records that don't exist

EDIT @ukexpat
You can get wich ever version (excpept portable) you want from here
http://filehippo.com/download_firefox/

arvind

arvind reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Been using v3 since the early betas. Amazing improvement over v2. Renders extremely fast, all extensions working fine and some very intuitive additions. Overall very please. Firefox still remains the browser to beat.

Alexander-GG

Alexander-GG reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Still the best browser. Fast and everything works fine.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

So far, very good. Not as fast as k-Meleon, but far easier to use. Most extensions are working well. at this point, trying to get to ad-ons or themes is ridiculous because of all of the traffic. Anyway, i'm happy.

PC_Tool

PC_Tool reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

ravemanson might be the only one here with a valid gripe...

roj: grade it as a browser, not based on the hype. Mmmkay?

gawd:

The links in the browser work fine for me, and the 'browse all addons' is part of the mozilla site. Of course you're going to have issues with it under it's current load. Take a breath and relax.

Works for me. It's fast, it renders well, take up less memory than the 2.x builds and all of my addons and bookmarks transferred flawlessly.

All in all, a decent upgrade upon which to build.

Kimoeagle

Kimoeagle reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

I'm sorry to see that,to date,commentary has been faint but damning praise for 3.0 final. I downloaded it at 1:18EDT, and found it a better performer than 3.0 RC2;memory (RAM)usage reasonable AND stable no matter what load. I also found it quicker & more responsive.(FWIWD, I am on hi-speed Internet, running a 6 yr. old PC with 640Mg RAM, 40G HD and 160G external HD.I have also been running IE7 Beta and FF2.0.0.14 Bon Echo, along with Orca.Maxton & Opera went off my list, and Navigator 9.0.0.6 remains my template for user-friendliness.) IMHO, Mozilla has come up with a solid performer in Firefox 3.0 final that will satisfy those of us who want a reliable, responsive browser.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

I have used FF for years now, but I am going back to 20014. This is the worst crap that I have ever used. The links in the browser don't even work. The links are as if they are just plain text. The add-ons browse all doesn't even work. This is crap and I recommend that you don't install it until they get a clue. It seems like every company is going down hill.

roj

roj reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

I spent the last week playing with RC2, RC3 and now the final.

I can honestly say that the hype around this puppy is wholly UNdeserved.

Is it a relatively competent piece of code? Yes.

Is it the second coming? No.

Is it a barebones beast until you dress it up? Yes.

Are the claims about radical increases in speed over IE7 well-founded? No.

Does it still come across as a piece of code developed by 13 year olds? Assuredly (about:config is NOT a mature way to configure an application - get serious children)

Does it still screw up rendering fonts? Definitely - and that's inexcusable.

Will it replace IE7 / IE7 pro on my system? No.

I will say though that the concept of bookmarks encased in a file is TOTAL rubbish. the URL as an object is a MUCH better solution.

I will also say that the whole "most downloaded" con job is the cheapest stunt I've seen pulled in recent memory. I guess these bozos totally ignore Patch Tuesday which utterly destroys any claims they had wet dreams of having.

Let the flaming from The faithful begin - I care not.

THREE stars for a product that is finally maturing - but nowhere near fast enough to match the hype of the fanatics.

PC_Tool:

I graded it as a browser and not based on the hype. That's why it gets only a FOUR and IE7 gets a FIVE. If i graded it on the hype, It would get a TWO because it falls so far short of said hype.

KiLLMasTer

KiLLMasTer reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

you guys Need to DL this on the main site.....

ravemanson

ravemanson reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

This one removed tons of important bookmarks simply because the addresses were "too similar". Beware!!!

The browser itself is a barebone laugh, but the user-base and all those plug-ins makes it something great.

DakotaSunRunner

DakotaSunRunner reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Hello everyone,

I like Firefox and I use it, but I also use several other browsers that I regard as just as good as Firefox. People have a right to express their opinions about any browser they like, but they do not have a right to insist others agree with them especially when they do not have to.

It is almost like the people who like Firefox and there are allot, just set here waiting for anyone who dares to disagree with them, how childish to argue on a forum of what one likes or dislikes.

I say, if it works and you like it, that is what you should use and you do not need anyone's opinion or permission to do that.

I downloaded this, I do not think it is the real final version, as my firewall nor anti virus detected it as new. In fact, if you read below another detected that also, so I do not think they have started yet. But I could be mistaken too.

just my opinion is all but some of you here need a lesson in people skills and stop thinking of yourself as so important when your not.

Dakota

-Lord-

-Lord- reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Great browser. Having to hunt down and reinstall all the plugins I use is a pain in the a$$, though. How about some sort of export ALL settings/plugins/configurations to make that process easier?

Also, where's the list of changes?

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

I can hear the cries of a thousand opera singers....cry little children, cry....

Hey outofspace...why don't you download a plugin to check your grammar.

opera sucks.

DJHasis

DJHasis reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Don't download yet!
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord
Creator's are tying to make a world record of Firefox downloads and they haven't yet started.

menting

menting reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

"If Opera is so great then why is FF beating the daylights out of it in market share? Because FF is more what people want!"
i won't use that as a reason if i were you. *cough* IE *cough*

FF3 is great, a huge improvement over FF2, but it still has problems for me for a site i go to a lot. Could be site related, but no other browser (IE, opera, safari) has that problem either, so.....i dunno. I have it installed, but it can't fully replace maxthon yet.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

At last! :)

Well, as for Opera, it loads pages WAY faster and has most of what one needs BY DEFAULT. I mean, with FF I need to install a ton of add-ons before I can make it work the way I want (one example, mouse gestures). Anyhow, I like FF a lot and keep it as my secondary browser.

outofspace

outofspace reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Buggy, just like the beta, which this final unfortunately still has not fixed.
I cannot get rid of the address bar history.
I tried everything, but failed.
Version 2.0.0.14 does not have this issue.
If you know how to clear this history, please post it here.

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Opera devs can't even build in a spell checker.

Long live Firefox "The Peoples Web Browser".

F1Racer

F1Racer reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Here come the Opera fanboys. Opera is a nice browser but you need to deal with the fact that a lot of people prefer Firefox regardless of memory usage, load times etc.
Also this notion that Opera doesnt need plugins to work properly is irrelevant. Firefox uses plugins to enhance what it already is. No way can Opera match what Firefox can do with the right plugins installed.

siryak

siryak reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

If Opera is so great then why is FF beating the daylights out of it in market share? Because FF is more what people want! As of right now for me nothing even comes close to FF.

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Opera fails because of 3 FF addons; noscript, flashblock and adblockplus.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Opera is better, faster, safer. More tools (default installation) without the need of extensions. Opera has lower memory usage too.

FF3 is better than previous releases but has high memory usage. With 3 or more extentions becomes a system hog.

Also opera has features by default that ff hasn't.

Parameterization is a sector that opera has an advantage. ff needs a lot of features to become a good browser.

A good engine is not enough.

However developers are in the right direction , to get ff in the top, but opera is the best now.

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

lol, and the servers have collapsed already

DJGM

DJGM reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Firefox 3 is NOT officially released yet!
Still another hour and 10 mins from now.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

h yeah, it's like being high w/o the drugs!

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

F.A.N.T.A.S.T.I.C.

It's just too bad so many Firefox users have such a miserable grasp of the English language. {cough} pctech5189 {cough}

pctech5189

pctech5189 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

hurry up already this gonna blow that ie7 thrash away

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 17, 2008

All I can say is people stop downloading for about 5 minutes so I can get mine. In all seriousness, FIREFOX RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

The world's most popular browser just got better. Here's what you can look forward to
1)Vastly increased rendering speed
2)Improved memory management
3)Support for more web standards(passes Acid 2 finally)
4)Better bookmark handling
5)Improved downloader
6)Find's url's as you type them
7)Better handling of addons/extensions

And the list goes on, it's worth the upgrade, every extension I use works without a hitch, besides a few theme, but hey that's the communities fault so I won't blame it on the Mozilla devs like many others do.

The world's best browser has come a long way, download now!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 17, 2008

simply the best.

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 17, 2008

I only thing I feel lets it down a tiny bit is the interface - I don't like the buttons on the default theme.

Apart from that; it feels much quicker than Firefox 2 and has some nice new features.

Firefox 3.0 is definitely my browser of choice by quite a margin.

P.S. You can download from FileHippo now: http://www.filehippo.com/download_firefox/

revparadigm

revparadigm reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 17, 2008

F because the download servers are swamped from people wanting it? FF3 is the best web browser out there, period.

kindbud1

kindbud1 reviewed v3.0 on Jun 17, 2008

Simply the best.

thezelda

thezelda reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Best. Browser. Ever.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Almost there I guess. Goood.

Opera > *

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

release it already!

mackley

mackley reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Mozilla Firefox 3.0 RC3 is a new build for Mac only, picking up the fix for Bug 436575.

Both Linux and Windows builds are unchanged from the RC2 that was already released !

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Unsure. Of how this can be a new release when none of the files in its program directory are changed from the 5/29 RC2 date.

Update: Ah, I see, it's Mac-only:
http://mozillalinks.org/...x-critical-mac-os-x-bug/

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Unneeded

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Unrelenting.

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v3.0 RC3 on Jun 11, 2008

Unexpected.

xnatx

xnatx reviewed v3.0 RC2 on Jun 5, 2008

Great Browser but....
Some Websites still don't show properly and it still takes a lot of memory.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v3.0 RC2 on Jun 5, 2008

Awesome. RC1 had some cpu spiking issues, it felt choppy, which is gone with RC2. RC2 feels really fluid. 21 tabs open uses 182,000K of memory. Final release will be a solid release.

jeck

jeck reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Jun 5, 2008

Guess I have to give this an F. Version 13 has been giving me fits and I can't even download this one and I'm not ready to jump on the V3 bandwagon yet. Every time I attempt to download v14 from here I get "500 Permission denied"; anyone know what's up with that? I've written numerous error reports with no answer of fix. Doesn't matter whether I'm signed in or not or whether I use my download manager/accelerator or not; everything I try ends up with the same result, "500 Permission Denied". I'm not having this problem with any other program on this site; just this one. If it can't be fixed I'd at least like to know what the problem is. Anyone have a clue?

I'm not even sure 14 is worth installing; it seems these days that upgraded/updated versions are not necessarily better than the older versions. What do you think?

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v3.0 RC2 on Jun 5, 2008

installed fine over rc1, no bookmark issues, but the memory is STILL borked, 117mb, with ONE tab open

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v3.0 RC2 on Jun 4, 2008

Uninstall RC1. Install RC2. Firefox and add-ons working: compatible or not! No problems! Nice work Mozilla! Use of memory remains very high 70-100MB!

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v3.0 RC2 on Jun 4, 2008

it's about time. I was tired of using 1.5 for the longest time. I dont trust a poor man in france, he might eat my french fries.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0 RC2 on Jun 4, 2008

Great browser keeps getting better. I'm still in love with Opera, but if there was no Opera I'd definately get down with FF.

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 23, 2008

So. In case anyone else is having bookmarks issues. Make sure your bookmarks.html from FF2 is correct. Make sure a copy of it is in the profile folder you have Firefox 3 running from.
Then delete places.sqlite, restart firefox3 and it rebuilds the bookmark database.
Apparently, I must have tried FF3 beta sometime back, it made a places.sqlite file that was way out of date, and it was driving me a little batty trying to figure where the bookmark data was.
solved.

-------------------------------------------

RC1 ? jeez.
After spending about 45 minutes trying to get my bookmarks back, and then dealing with 50% of my extensions and themes are not supported ?

The BIG issue was the freaking bookmarks utility, somehow Mozilla ****ed up a completely working system with something that does NOT work.
I guess that's an improvement.

------------------------------------------------------

I even deleted the entire profile and the same list of funky old outdated bookmarks kept appearing !!!! ???? wtf ?

Back to 2.014 for me.

RC1 ? Vista ? Is the Moz release team working for Microsoft now or taking tips ?
Guys... no crack pipe until AFTER the work is done, ok ?

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 21, 2008

memory hogging is back.
75mb with no open tabs, text only webpage.
still faster than ff2.

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 18, 2008

Very fast and stable looks like memory bug is fixed,
for those complaining about extensions not compatible should install"Nightly Tester Tools" i use all my extensions with every update/upgrade without a problem.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 18, 2008

Seemed pretty good to me and faster than FF2. However, few of my extensions worked. So, I went back to FF2 and will wait until FF3 can get extensions up to date. I'm looking forward to that. FF3 should be a great one.

shelb

shelb reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 18, 2008

Location bar autosearch of your history and bookmarks is very handy. Firefox 3 RC1 uses much less memory than Firefox 2. Scrolling is smoother and faster than before. They took a near perfect browser and polished it, I have no complaints about it, I love it.

idodialog

idodialog reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 18, 2008

Fast, stable, compliant, straightforward out of the box yet highly adaptable, smart tho somewhat conservative improvements, cross platform - Opera has it's qualities and IE has too (tho I can't actually think of any) and Maxthon has probably had its day (Safari not forgotten - tho its a complete joke running on Windows)
- this therefore is the best browser ever made.
(Tho I am also concerned about dependency upon developers updating add-ons)

mflip

mflip reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 18, 2008

Best web browser ever! Excellent web standards compliance. Regarding the ACID 2 test, all official beta versions of Firefox 3 have passed the ACID 2 test 100%. This is nothing new with Release Candidate 1 of Firefox 3.0.

jogygeorge

jogygeorge reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 18, 2008

If only they had an in-house online system for storing bookmarks and settings just like Google Sync, I'd have given it a 5.

Third party addons are fine, but its tough if they get us to become too reliant on them and then with every change in version of the main program, backward compatibility is lost and the third party no longer cares to update their addons!

Google Sync is something I've come to live by after having the said features on Avant, Maxthon and IE7pro. GS no longer seems to be updated, their addon does not work with FF3 ... no, not even with the nightly build addon!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 17, 2008

All my extensions are working without issue, the rendering speed has vastly improved(while not as fast as Opera kestrel beta, it's certainly a noticeable improvement), it now passes Acid 2 and made it over halfway through ACID 3. It's about time they changed the structure of the downloader, I've been needing resume functionality like this from day one considering my unstable connection. And I almost forgot to mention; drastically lower memory consumption.

I'm not too terribly fond of the newer interface, but I won't rate it lower for that since skins will be flying in soon.

It's stable enough for any average user to pick up with no issue, I've tested every major feature without fail to insure this.

The world's best browser just got better.

cricri_pingouin

cricri_pingouin reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 17, 2008

Like the user below: I've been using Beta 5 for some time and had no problems. Overall an excellent browser, I'm glad I switched from Maxthon (which was going on a different trend, i.e. less consumer driven and less stable), and I'm not looking back.
A 5 from me. Not perfect, but let's say I give it a 4.6 rounded to the nearest integer.

rdtmk5

rdtmk5 reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 17, 2008

Absolutely fantastic! Have been running Beta 5 for some time now - had no issues. RC1 is even more solid - fast, stable - all of my extensions work. As a huge fan of Firefox 2, I was worried that FF3 would be bloated and slow. Guess what? FF3 is even better! Fantastic speed and performance! Highly recommended!

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 17, 2008

Was getting frequent crashes with beta 5, but this version seems to be very solid.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

No problems: firefoxRC1 + Nightly Tester and some old add-ons!

boaz

boaz reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

So far, so good. Installed over 2.0.1.4 just fine.

Sammo

Sammo reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

I love Firefox and run the daily betas just fine. After a few initial startup issues this build seems fast and stable.

EarlyMorningHours

EarlyMorningHours reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

IMO it's a bloody miracle when something doesn't crash in Windows these days.

roj

roj reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

That doesn't excuse a crash if it does something it shouldn't. A graceful exit is the correct thing to do. If this is a RC and doing that, it's still a Beta and as such gets THREE stars.

RCs aren't supposed to crash that trivially.

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

Silverlight doesn't support Firefox 3 yet.

JeremyGNJ

JeremyGNJ reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

This crashes when running SilverLight over Remote Desktop.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

Oh my forking god! I've been waiting for this day for quite a while now. Almost time for final now! I'm ready for the switch! Nay sayers beware, Fat Albert says "hey hey hey." You can catch me in my pineapple under the sea!

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

Rating something low because you think it's retarded that it lacks a ridiculous feature you want is ... well ... retarded....

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

It never ceases to amaze me the foolish brand loyalty people have for inferior quality but better marketed products*cough cough apple* over actual good quality

With this page only open in a barebones FF and Opera this is the difference

op.com = 13,160k
FF3 = 41,488k

of course as I open more tabs Opera inches up and FF jumps leaps and bounds

v3 IS an improvement over v2 thats for sure but it still as you can see uses far more memory which in inexcusible for something that is nowhere near as feature rich.

It still needs plugins to become an effecient browser but as with alot of updates many plugins no longer work. No paste and go option still is flat out retarded.

These are just the facts and the bottom line is the bottom line period. Of course your an idiot seems to be a logical rebuttal to this for some *rollseyes*

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

When Opera has decent ad and script blocking, I'll switch over. Until then, I'll never consider.

kommando

kommando reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

"Reviewer: L4zy1 Apr 8, 2008

I wish firefox would die
firefox is crap that takes multiple plugins just to start to become useful"

Because you're a retard.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0 Release Candidate 1 on May 16, 2008

Great browser. Support for plugins and their number and variety cease to amaze me. Still, as good as it might be, FF is not even close to what Opera offers in terms of both speed and flexibility.

Opera > *

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 26, 2008

Making Firefox cross-platform was a waste of time and effort. It should have been developed for Windows only. Macs and 'nix already have their own browser. Not many of those users are going to use this browser anyway. Just look at the numbers.

osric

osric reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 20, 2008

I'm sticking with this till FF3 is officially released. Some of my addons - like Foxmarks are not yet compatible with FF3.

why hello there

why hello there reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 19, 2008

Vast improvement over FF2 in the memory usage arena. Still can't beat Opera but it's a nice start. See? It wasn't just the "dumb" users' imagination. Though being beta, it does have its share of wonkiness. Your old extensions may or may not work. You can add tags to bookmarks and use it to search your bookmarks (big +) but there's no easy way to import and append or override your fresh bookmark tool folder without tediously dragging and dropping each time (seems to act weird when I'm cutting and pasting in the bookmark manager or maybe it's just me). The dropdown list for previously visited URLs is by the forward button. What? Shouldn't it by the BIG backwards button? Find as you type uses a blank bar. Why didn't they use the regular find bar with all the nifty options that it had? Image resizing. Really now, why isn't there checkbox option to turn this off? Sure, you could change it about:config but it really should be an option that everyday users can find and change because some people such as myself find that default behavior annoying. Especially since the resized image is jaggy. Clicking on a link should have the new tab open on the right of the active tab. Instead, it's opened all the way at the end of the other tabs. And when closing tabs, it doesn't remember the last active tab. I'm sure some of the issues above can be addressed with plugins but if possible, I rather they be fixed by the Firefox developers. Overall, I think this is a solid browser and a nice improvement over the previous version.

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 18, 2008

What can I say, Firefox rocks.

In general, I tell most people NOT to use Beta software and I also agree that scores at this site should be solely for the product on the page. I did reinstall v2 of FF to review it but I'm back to v3 Beta.

Barring any addon incompatibilities or other issues I do believe FF v3 Beta 5 is very stable and worth upgrading. Do NOT run both v2 and v3 at the same time.

The addons I use aren't many, but they all work with FF v3 Beta. I use the following addons:
1) NoScript
2) WOT (Web of Trust)
3) IE View

(For FF v3, to get my HOME icon where I wanted it, I think I had to open the Bookmarks toolbar, then "Customize" and drag it to my main toolbar.)

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 17, 2008

To GrantTLC. The point of adding a comment is to rate the software and give an opinion. Anyone giving firefox lower than a 4 has never used it or is still using Netscape 4.78 and can't figure out how to use a newer browser.

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 17, 2008

FireFox 2.0.0.14 is a good, stable browser. It's an auto-upgrade already, isn't it?
Bleeding edge beta buffs may want to have a look at:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...ghtly/latest-mozilla1.8/
perhaps the last beat of this now passing platform.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 17, 2008

I can't rate this version of Firefox highly knowing FF3 is about to hatch. FF3 is a massive improvement on this clunky, slow, legacy browser.

It's commendable that Mozilla are keeping this secure while FF3 bakes, but there's really no reason any more to recommend this version to anyone who isn't already using it. Get them to use the Beta instead.

cowgaR

cowgaR reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 17, 2008

GREAT platform - without competition...6/5 normally, but

if I would like to select "only" a browser, I would pick an Opera, but then again, I need a robust platform to work with...and that what's firefox is (but you can use it as a browser aswell ;-)

so 4/5 because Firefox 3.0 is superior to version 2.0 in so many ways one can't simply count, circa zillion changes +1, in every direction you look at, so should be renamed to Firefox 30.0 compared to this "old_win95_buggy_memory_hungry_nosqlite_nocairo_nogoogpluginhandling" codebase ;)

but still, Firefox 2.0 was my mistress for a long time, sniff...sentiments to the best browser on Earth, fell in love since Phoenix 0.4 (first usable for me)

back to my fetish, reading:
http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/

EarlyMorningHours

EarlyMorningHours reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

I was a Maxthon user for years. I felt then and feel now that Maxthon v1.x was better than FF v1.x. Things changed as both browsers went to v2.x. Maxthon v1.x became buggier with each release and the v2 series.. well I don't have all day to write about that abortion. The point I'm getting at however is that while Maxthon v1.x eventually took a one way trip to bug city it did have a TON of features that I really miss to this day. It would please me to no end if the FF dev team picked off a couple of those things or even found a way to work with the developer of NoScript to make that part of the browser itself.

At this point I've completely migrated myself to FF v3b5 and haven't looked back. While v2 is IMHO the best browser that is currently in general release, it is in fact pale compared to v3. Once v3 goes final I doubt anyone will be able to make a convincing argument of any kind that this or that browser is better. Perhaps an argument based of personal preferences of interface, appearance, etc., but certainly not on technological merits.

Bad Prit

Bad Prit reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

Today the best, tomorrow even better !

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

Maxthon!? Opera!? What planet are you people on exactly? FF 2.x is not perfect, but let's get real. It blows anything else out there away on any platform. Granted it is a memory hog. By the looks of V3.x, however, this criticism will no longer be apt. Let's hope.

psycros

psycros reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

It never ceases to amaze me that people will swear at each other about a piece of software. However, I realize that anonymous forums are irresistible to the "just smart enough to be laughable" crowd. Anyway, I like Firefox for several reasons. Its interface is more flexible than others I've tried, which really just means I can give it a look that appeals to my sense of desktop aesthetics. The plugins are a big part of this: without the big ones that almost everyone uses, FF isn't worth using. Unfortunately this means its going to be a memory hog since all of this stuff is XML and the like. I find it to be at least as fast as IE and noticeably quicker than other browsers I've tried. It virtually never freezes up, which IE does fairly regularly. Things I don't like include its poor handling of bookmarks compared to most browsers (including IE) and the inability to control the width of bookmarks on the bookmark toolbar (not to mention drop-down Live Bookmarks). The lack of a hotkey to get rid of the search bar is annoying (how about making CTRL-F a toggle, Mozpeople?). There's no may to manually add file associations that I can see, so if another program doesn't natively support Mozilla you're out of luck. I'm pretty disappointed in FF3 since none of the shortcomings seem to have been addressed. The best thing they could do is (as MANY have suggested) incorporate the functionality of Adblock Plus, Tab Mix Plus, Add Bookmark Here 2 and Flashgot..and fix the other things I mentioned while their at it.
BTW, I've tried Opera and didn't like it. That quickbar you can't get rid of was annoying, the ton of pre-installed bookmarks, non-standard shortcuts..pretty much everything about it turned me off so I didn't mess with it much.

aking80

aking80 reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

Bulls*** you got Opera running on 12000k. I agree Firefox uses a lot of memory but it's not as bad as some make it out to be. Great plugins, great speed, and loads right up for me. 5/5

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

This is still a mediocre browser with great plugins. Loads really slow at start up and pages too. Huge memory hog and don't believe the hype about FF3 either.

I have the same page open on a barebones version of FF3 beta5 portable and Opera USB and the usage is

firefoxe.exe = 64,004K
FirefoxPortable = 7,988K (which runs at the same time so just add those 2 and tell me thats an improvement)
Opera = 12,876K

Like I said don't believe the hype. I have pleanty of ram but why should so much be dedicated to a browser when others require so much less to do a better job?

@Canuckistani
Opera is extremely customizable too if you know what your doing so I guess your not the geek you think you are

Hellcat_M

Hellcat_M reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

darthbeads - for one thing Maxthon is one big plug-in of sorts. Its a skin for MS IE (but it is a good skin, has some good finctions and I use it sometimes).

why hello there - I agree with you, and I think the way Mozilla can fix this is by looking at the top plug-ins (TabMix plus, All-in-one sidebar, Google browser sync (or foxmarks), Adblock plus, and NoScript) to name a few and just put those functions in the browser. I think if they did this they could optimize the browser better which will make it load in faster (also you wouldn't have to load in all the plug-ins which takes longer), which would also save in memory usage. Will they do this, probably not.

All we can hope is that FF 3 and 4 use up less memory to make up for the memory the plugins use. Maybe Mozilla should quality control the plug-ins better and make sure their optimized for FF better. Maybe they should have a plug-in system that integrates the plug-ins better into FF, incorporating the code better into the browser instead of something that just plugs into the browser loosely.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v2.0.0.14 on Apr 16, 2008

Dear improvelence:

Okay. Maxthon. Will there be anything else?

More to the review -- nice to see some further hole-plugging on Firefox 2, though I have been using FF3 for a while now and simply love it.

why hello there

why hello there reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Apr 11, 2008

Dear god. What a memory hog! The truth is Firefox's strength lies in its vast and varied plugins. Speed-wise and memory usage-wise, Opera still reigns supreme. Go ahead and try the vanilla versions of those two browsers. Open up the same amount of tabs and you'll see that Firefox over time gulps up memory like there's no tomorrow. And that's just the vanilla version. Wait until you try to use Firefox with plugins. It's even worse. There's also the issue of JavaScript. There's a few website with JavaScript menus that Firefox does not render correctly whereas Opera does not have that same problem.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Apr 8, 2008

L4zy1 is probably a pansy a** Opera user.

Name one other browser that has a ton of useful functionality without plugins?

Comon? Just one?

What a dumba** comment.

L4zy1

L4zy1 reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 8, 2008

I wish firefox would die
firefox is crap that takes multiple plugins just to start to become useful

L4zy1

L4zy1 reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Apr 8, 2008

I hate firefox
firefox is crap that takes multiple plugins just to start to become useful

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 3, 2008

Sven - what are you doing? An unbiased, non-fanboy opinion? Very nice and agree 100%. Bare bones it's extremely fast but what browser wouldn't be? Fully loaded (i.e. add-ons), it's hard to beat its functionality.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

Mr Tech Toolkit should be a mandatory (or is) addon.
http://www.mrtech.com/msgboard/toolkit.xpi
v6.0a28

Ryusennin

Ryusennin reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

http://oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly/

Nightly Tester simply allows you to disable plugin compatibility check in Firefox 3. Most plugins will work fine, some won't. It's up to you to use it wisely. And it's up to the plugin developer to make sure his extension is really compatible.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

The browser itself is great. Everything is true that u have read. Its really fast. Nice features. But my one negative, And dont reply back that its only a beta, I know. 10 fo 12 of my extensions don't work. Another user here mentioned everything came over fine. Really? And what add on's are you using. Like allot of users, I have that fear that allot of them won't come over once this is a final release. I know its the programmers who make these add ons and themes job to update it. But you never know. But as a striped down browser with no add on's, you can't deny this isn't a great browser.

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

Encouraging signs that they may have finally licked the resource hog of the century problem. Maybe they will have even built a browser that goes some way to catching up to the completely exaggerated reputation of this browser. I guess when your comparison class is Internet Explorer and Opera, you can see how a reputation can get away from you. Now if only we could get those plugins to work, or at least the ones I love!

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

It's good. But not even close to Opera.

#2 browser for me though.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

wow, nothing ever crashes on my custom built pc.. this does.

ff crash report agent pop ups nonstop lol

still, i know once it goes final it will be just fine.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

Works great, and yes it's official:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

arvind

arvind reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

the fastest firefox ever! integrates even better with the overall look of vista.. and is extremely fast.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

Fantastic.

About 1 second load times on OLD hardware, with fast network.

three tabs, three extensions, 66M memory use.

Did I say Fantastic?!

DJHasis

DJHasis reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

This is the final build of beta 5 cos this one here is the final build in ftp.mozila.org's releases.
If you don't belevie that this is the real thing then wait for a day or two so also mirrors has this build.
But about this release,
gui looks more nicer then before, feels like this could have more bugs or it needs alot more speed to get some properties to show in preferences.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

I dont count any mozilla release when its posted on betanews based on their history of not being able to verify a release. When mozilla says it is released, then I believe it.

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

This may not be the final beta 5. This may only be a release candidate.

See the note at the top of this page: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0b5

The link in the note only has beta 4 builds available ATM.

You can tell if you downloaded a release candidate instead of the final beta 5 because it should make that very clear to you when you start it up for the first time.

Famguy929

Famguy929 reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

How do u have this?
This isn't due for release until 10 am PDT
Link:http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0b5

Seems to me somebody got impatient and submitted a unfinished rc build :(.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v3.0 Beta 5 on Apr 2, 2008

"Support for Cross-Site XmlHttpRequest has been removed until the specification becomes more stable and the security model is improved"

Wankers.

roymccoy

roymccoy reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 28, 2008

After years of trying out different browser and their features, I've find the ONE!

FireFox makes the use of Internet easier and better in every way - no matter you're a geek or a dummy!

Canuckistani

Canuckistani reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 27, 2008

Yes, FF is still a memory hog but the issue is easily addressed by installing more RAM which has the added benefit of making your entire OS, whether it is an NT derivative ot Linux, run faster and more smoothly. RAM is cheap these days so get as much as your motherboard can handle. However, I have never thought of FF as being a "mainstream" browser like IE or Opera and is best suited for geeks like myself who love to tinker. My version of FF looks and behaves like no other version. It is truly MY web browser and unique from all others but how many other people feel comfortable editing .css files and ripping apart .jar archives? Right, almost no one. Opera and IE are very good browsers. Sure they can be compromised and so can FF. Relying on your web browser to be completely secure or more secure than others is a mugs game you are sure to lose. You're on your own out there so it's up to you to browse safely and keep your head up.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 26, 2008

Clumsy and slow when compared to Opera, but much better than IE!

aszure

aszure reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 26, 2008

Been using FF since Firebird. Great browser, but has become somewhat of a memory hog, especially if you have a ton of extensions installed. But worth it if you're tired of IE.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 26, 2008

So. Much. Better!

The difference in memory usage and, more importantly, responsiveness of even this beta in comparison to FF2 is just night and day. AJAX sites, in particular, run a lot faster. It's better than I expected by a long shot.

All of the dozen extensions I use are now up to date and work with this version.

The only problem I have is with SVG graph handling. I use the Tomato open-source firmware for my router, and the animated SVG graphs that work fine under FF2 are just missing from the interface with FF3. But hey, that's beta software. I can accept that.

Every other site I've tried works perfectly, and it's just more enjoyable to use than FF2 is. It finally FEELS as fast as Opera.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 26, 2008

Thought the purpose was to rate the version posted...

if not:
Opera 19.2 rates a 5
IE42 rates a 5
Firefox 27 rates a 5

...anyway, 3 for the browser itself (slow), 5 for the add-ons (slower but useful)...

ltsnow

ltsnow reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Sturgess is right. Firefox 2 is great, but Firefox 3 (beta 5 now) is amazing. It is so fast you won't believe it. I update it every day and help with the beta testing. Try it, you'll love it.

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Perhaps i should jump into the Opera hype and give a 5 no matter if it works or not.

Firefox3b4 Portable Edition is the way to go so you can keep your latest version and run side by side without any major issues.

Foxmarks is neat (not on present beta) but Diigo works well with 3Beta4. Temporary alternative.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

I'm tired! "2.0.0.13" isn't my luck number...jumping to Firefox 3!

EarlyMorningHours

EarlyMorningHours reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Why am I still using this? Foxmarks among other things. The "other things" I could probably live without, but Foxmarks is nearly mandatory. I've read they have a beta program for a new v3 compatible version of their plugin. I can only hope it sees a general release soon.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

i venture off and always end up coming back to FF.

IE8 might cause me to try it, but ff will still be installed.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

It's worth a 5. But I have been using the latest beta and that would deserve a 6. Why you guys are still using this, when the now far superior 3 is available is beyond me. One more beta of 3 and then it will be the final so you will have to change. Why wait ? Go for it now, you know it makes sense.

De Julien

De Julien reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Same here, I took the plunge to Opera after reading some opera-freak's reactions, but it's not even touching Firefox' knees.

siryak

siryak reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

I have tried all the IE clones, Opera, etc. and I always end up coming back to this browser. Simply the best hands down. Looks to be even better with version 3.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Unfortunately FF has regressed instead of progressing since its heyday...becoming one huge mess of incompatibilities and never-ending bugfixes.

That said, all other browsers out there are lacking for one reason or another... it's why i give the new kid Safari for Windows an actual fighting chance.

DJHasis

DJHasis reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Mozilla Firefox is a good product, its just sad that this version is alot slower and buggier then the latest beta of Firefox 3 but people shouldn't still complain here about what are the problems and tell them to the dev so they can remove those problems.
But if you people think this sucks badly then I suggest trying the latest beta of Firefox 3.
Its also as good as this and alot more better too!

cannie

cannie reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

Simply the best.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.13 on Mar 25, 2008

After a day of use I have discovered that I can't login to my bank anymore with this version. I'm using IE temporarily.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Mar 23, 2008

I used to like Firefox, but they have gone downhill bigtime. Never have I seen such a buggy browser. EVERY day I get a stupid lockup with it. It also takes up a ton of resources, much more than IE.

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 17, 2008

For all of you who cry about 3.0's memory usage, here is a link you should look at. This is still the best browser out there and it is only getting better. I've never had a crash prob with any of the betas, wonder what's wrong with your systems or configurations?

http://arstechnica.com/n...-than-ie-and-opera.html

Fudge your prob is with the ext developers not FF. Complain to them. I am using the beta of tabmix plus and it works fine with FF 3.0 beta 4. Also, here is a nifty little ext that makes it easier to use older extensions on 3.0.

http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly

fudgeworth

fudgeworth reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 14, 2008

Still my browser of choice, but only chocked to the gills with third party add-ons, hardly any of which work with this beta. I find it painful without Tab Mix Plus and Flashblock for example.

Why they haven't expanded the tab options, beats me. For instance, there's little reason to ever want to open a second browser instance, yet that's the default. Rarely would you want Javascript to resize windows, yet that's the default. Things like this detract from common sense out of the box usability.

In other words, until the add-ons function, without having to hack the config, it's not up to scratch.

BlackAle

BlackAle reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 13, 2008

Amazingly fast now, the huge speed improvements that have been made to Javascript impact the whole browsing experience as all extensions are wrote in Javascript and the core UI management for Firefox.

Excellent, all those whining about extension issues, go complain to the authors, it's not Mozilla's fault.

...and crashes? what? totally stable here, if you're finding it that unstable, i'd investigate elsewhere.

David_2005

David_2005 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 13, 2008

i clicked help and about firefox and mine crashed too its really buggy as hell
firefox 4.0 alpha is more stable then this beta

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 12, 2008

Too many bugs for my taste, this need much workin its

Sephiroth...

Sephiroth... reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Mar 12, 2008

This browser its slow like hell, even I.E. is more fast like this, and no talk about his memory hog.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 12, 2008

Beta 4 crashes an awful lot. And the default theme still looks like crap. Did someone from the Gimp team offer to help with UI design? What are they smoking up there in the Firefox offices? Most people would take one look at that theme and never try Firefox again.

I wish I had more hands so I could give it four thumbs down. The milk's gone bad.

kiwibank

kiwibank reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 12, 2008

"Click Help and then About Mozilla Firefox - Firefox will instantly crash"..i have..and it didn`t..stable as a rock..and fast too..

Zee333

Zee333 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 12, 2008

Unstable and crashes.
Click Help and then About Mozilla Firefox - Firefox will instantly crash.
There are several websites that will cause Firefox 3 Beta 4 to crash too. All this has been sent in to Mozilla, hopefully they will fix these issues.

benyahuda

benyahuda reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

I am not and never have been a Firefox fanboy. Opera was always my number one choice.

The IE 8 beta was a great improvement over IE 7 but it still won't let me set it up the way I want it without constant nagging.

But now this beta 4 of Firefox 3 is an IE killer for sure.

Screw the themes and addons, they will come along in time. This new beta performs at least on par with Opera. And I have a 10 Meg connection and can still see a real difference. Especially if I have 20+ pages that I'm browsing back and forth through. I'm going to convert I believe.

Now where do the Firefox fanboys meet?

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

Using this on a test PC. Usual suspects as far as addon support. Will be fine with final release though. Hey jorgex3, Gates is gone dude.

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

Meh, for now.. There's a reason this is still called Beta

3/4 of my addons won't work, regardless of the about:config tweaks out and about.

The actual font interface is weird. I tried setting the fonts and sizes in version 3 like I have them in version 2, yet some of the text was too small to read in relation to the size of the headers. ??? Not the same at all.

Theme support is weak, especially for the one I use. :(

Never realized how much I've customized FF2.

Speed changes are almost irrelavant on a 7mb dsl anyway, so I didn't really notice much difference in load times.

Getting there, though, I suppose, and eventually Moz will get the bugs worked out enough to use version 3.

I personally don't have any issues with Version 2 at this point, and the addon support is tremendous.

brusco

brusco reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

@Ian C.

Its not mozilla's fault that the extension developers are not releasing for a Beta. Many hold off until the final release version to release their new extensions.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

Amazing improvement with the memory management. Its memory use is nearly as low as Opera now. However I've gotta give it a 4 because there are so few addons available, can't stand working on web pages without Firebug. Also not to crazy about the new default theme, but it's clean, and that's what matters most.

Turns out the Firebug beta will install on this, but still a few others I must have.

Well, after tinkering for a while, looks like most of my favorite addons work with beta4, replacing Ff2 now. :)

arvind

arvind reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

HUGE speed improvement from beta 3! And this one finally comes with the Vista icons.. can't wait for final!

jorgex3

jorgex3 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 11, 2008

This is no beta!!
It is the real deal, it works perfect. Explorer killed Netscape but now its payback time. Move out of the way Gate$

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 10, 2008

The Best version of Firefox ever.

Speed, Speed, Speed, this is all about.

IE what???

Been a Firefox User Since Phoenix 0.1

jafo818

jafo818 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 10, 2008

Hard for me to compare performance right now... On my old P4 3GHz it's not so fast, but I'm running an optimized pigfoot build of 2.0.0.12, so probably not a fair comparison. I can't wait for optimized builds of 3! :)

kazzi

kazzi reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 10, 2008

Wow - speed at last! I use Mr Tech Toolkit to make most of my extensions compatible, the rest I hope will be updated asap. A Firefox user since very early days, this beta rocks. Can't wait for the final release.

comeoffit

comeoffit reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 10, 2008

Oh boy, what a joy this is! The only theme I used with Firefox 2 doesn't work anymore. And all but two of my extensions don't work with Firefox 3. This wouldn't be a big deal, if... Well, if Firefox did almost anything on it's own, without requiring an extension for everything.

The thing that bothers me the most though is the font used in about:config, in the address bar, the status bar, the options dialog, and elsewhere in the interface. It's unbearable and it literally bothers my eyes.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 10, 2008

FF 3 beta 4 is faster on my 4 year old XP pro desktop through RDP than FF 2 is through my core 2 duo machine locally.

I cannot wait for this to go gold. It kicks ass.

DJHasis

DJHasis reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 10, 2008

This is the final beta 4.
Mozilla's webpages haven't yet been updated to say that there is a final build.
If you don't believe that this isn't the final build, you can wait a few hours or a day that mozilla tells it or look at mozilla's ftp-site under releases not nightlies.

But about this release, it's less buggy then the previous, the gui feels better and also the memory usage feels smaller and this feels a bit faster too.

De Julien

De Julien reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Mar 9, 2008

Still the most complete browser by far.
Fast and completely configurable, no other comes even close.

Ulmo

Ulmo reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Mar 7, 2008

So much faster than previous version !!
And still no stability problem.

danke

danke reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 7, 2008

Much faster than FFox 2, leaves IE7 in the dust.
Nice changes to the address bar, bookmarks.

A little bummmer that not all ext. are compatible yet - but that can be expected in the beta stage.

Hope they'll also improve the new icon set - reload looks bad.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 7, 2008

Excellent product. I have no hesitation recommending it to my customers, especially if they want to reduce the risk of spyware infections.

Zee333 - There must be something wrong with your installation. I'm running the beta4 here, and help/about works fine here, as it always has.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0 Beta 4 on Mar 7, 2008

many problems. Opera and IE7 is faster.

Needs a lot of extentions to have a good functionality.

David_2005

David_2005 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Mar 6, 2008

this is actually better then the v3 to me but it takes much longer to load up then IE7 and Opera
it uses more memory then any other browser out there too, check the facts for yourself

David_2005

David_2005 reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Mar 6, 2008

installed it that went well started to use it and it crashed as soon as i went to google website
i tried other sites and it crashes straight away

Zee333

Zee333 reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Mar 4, 2008

Keeps crashing, and is very slow.
I use Internet Explorer 7 and Safari 3.1 also and do not have these problems.
If you have Internet Explorer 7, Opera, Safari or even Firefox 2, keep it.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 28, 2008

Slow Performance, high memory usage, can crash for no reason - just about everything you thought you knew is wrong.

http://www.firefoxmyths.com

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 24, 2008

Still a resource hog and slow. Need several things to fix.

Chocobito

Chocobito reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 24, 2008

Big memory hog, the 3 beta is more fast but more unstable and incompatible

FileTracker

FileTracker reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 22, 2008

Needs to concentrate even more on performance (CPU Usage, Memory Usage).

The new betas have made progress but why is Opera so much more speedy, I also hear the recent dev builds of safari are also blazing fast.

We need to bring FFX up to that level, then it would truly be perfect.

FileTracker

FileTracker reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 22, 2008

Needs to concentrate even more on performance, CPU usage, memory usage and memory usage.

benyahuda

benyahuda reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 15, 2008

Sabz, I hate to screw with your opinion but if you bothered to check before you speak you will find that here at betanews if you click on the download button you are redirected to the 'official sites'.

For the Firefox beta this is the official Mozilla ftp site.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 14, 2008

After installation, it crashed three times in as many minutes. I couldn't see the new skin that's got everyone so upset either, despite downloading directly from the Mozilla site.

However, when I uninstalled it, erased my profile folders and then reinstalled, things seemed to be much better. Lots of improvements in this build and noticeably quicker. *Almost* on a par with Opera when surfing which, coming from a long-time fan of Opera is high praise indeed!.

Not bad, Mozilla, not bad at all. FF gets a 4 while still a beta.

krgood

krgood reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 13, 2008

dpcdpc11,
The home Icon can be moved, I moved mine with no problem. Go to View/Toolbars/Customize and move the home icon to the available icons, then move it to the place in the tool bar where you would like it.
Works fine.
Goody

lucianct

lucianct reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 13, 2008

there are a lot of new things since beta2! except the ugly ie7-style theme, i really like the improvements...
oh and i already found a bug: beta3 has problems with toolbar buttons :(((

Mystenes

Mystenes reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 13, 2008

there are bugs, many. it's beta so it's NORMAL.

Sabz

Sabz reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

wish people would get the Beta From the official Source an not from Betanews as things can usually be Broken by getting dtuff from an unofficial source, saying that i can understand why Mozilla wont fix all the bugs up in the 3.0 release, only the critical ones, when they get to 3.5 what will they have to fix if they fix all the bugs up in 3.0?

SteveJohnSteele

SteveJohnSteele reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

I'm normally a fan of FireFox, but I find this a bit disappointing.

1. Back/Forward images buttons need work (XP version) ... hope to see a Vista version soon
2. No 'small-icons' version of the combined Back/Forward available ... maybe this will follow soon
3. Want Add-Ons, Downloads etc in sidebar ... integrate All-In-One Sidebar
4. Ability to place toolbar buttons before and after the tab-bar (like IE7) ... maybe make the tab-bar function like a expandable space, so it can be positioned anywhere

dpcdpc11

dpcdpc11 reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

i'm telling u bro it's not working for me... and i'm not a noob.. my default browser is K-Meleon all configured by me and stuff... so i would know how to move a damn button believe me.. after playing with the buttons i can drag and arrange... many time the address bar was stop working for no reason at all... and after quiting and starting FF again the toolbar did not remeber the settings i made... it definitely has a problem with the toolbar!!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

It's a trap indeed. Whatever it is, Mozilla needs a slightly better way to communicate/update users on what exactly they are downloading. If you don't want the public to test, then you need to hide/prevent the public best you can. If you do want them to test, you need to be more clear on how they can help test and what they are testing.

Minor gripe. I typically stay far away from mozilla alphas, betas, and RC's, as I've been burned in the past.

DJHasis

DJHasis reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

Kronix2 is right, this in in fact the final beta 3. If you read from the MozillaWiki about this beta, there reads that rc3 of this beta 3 will be the final beta 3 so THIS IS IT.
But about this release. Well, the gui looks very like IE 7 so if you like IE 7 then you may like this but I don't much like the gui changes.
Other bad things I can't say about this.
So if you liked the previous betas then try also this.

kronix2

kronix2 reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

This is NOT a release candidate of the beta, or "just another trunk build". This is Firefox 3 Beta 3. Have a look here: http://releases.mozilla..../firefox/releases/3.0b3/

The welcome page says "this is a release candidate" because they haven't bothered to update the page yet.

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

Seems faster than previous version. Crashes immediately after launching it if the Internet Download Manager IDM CC extension is enabled.

chaswill

chaswill reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

Yeppers, what Paradise-FH- says is correct. It's essentially just another trunk, and it was released yesterday, the 11th, not today...

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

hmmm, all these people exclaiming how fast this build is implies that the previous one like all the others are slow, still 5 stars though I'm sure.

I guess memory leaks and extention compatiblity are just not important enough to be workded on.

This over hyped browser has been left behind by Opera and some IE clones( but not IE itself)

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

g** d*** it betanews can't you get anything right? Between the ridiculous blabbering of SMF3 and the fact you can't even label betas right I don't know why even visit this useless site anymore.

From http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/whatsnew/:

"You've downloaded a release candidate of Firefox 3 Beta 3."

ratpackid

ratpackid reviewed v3.0 Beta 3 on Feb 12, 2008

HOLY CRAP is this version fast. It is way better than beta 2 and there is finally a new theme.

Animal Testing Rocks

Animal Testing Rocks reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 12, 2008

best with both

controle de scripts
and
adblock plus

http://easylist.adblockplus.org
http://animal-testing-rocks.blogspot.com

:)

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 10, 2008

still the slooooowest.
still a big memory hog.
still the most cofigurable.
still the safest.
still my favorie.

i would use ff3, which is sooo much faster, but most extensions are not compatable.

hell0

hell0 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 9, 2008

for those looking for a linkpad like add-on for FireFox (with Netscape going out of existence soon) there is a add on called bookStack that does the same things as link pad.

http://diehealthy.org/bookstack

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 8, 2008

You know, if Opera had the sort of community and web support Firefox enjoys due to its open nature, I would choose it hands down. It really is quick.

But quickness isn't everything.

No other browser will allow me to do the sorts of things I've become used to doing in Firefox. I wish that weren't the case, but it is.

And for people complaining (yet again) about broken plugins due to an update to a BETA build: yes, this happens. It happens every TWO YEARS, and it takes a matter of mere days and weeks for major (and even minor, these days) plugin authors to catch up after a final release. If you have a plugin that hasn't been updated yet, then ask the author nicely to get on the bus and simply use the latest stable version of Firefox until the third parties you are relying upon catch up; no one's forcing you to upgrade to the latest and greatest.

Until the final release of Version 3 comes out, this will be my browser of choice.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 8, 2008

The old humvee has now been taken off my system, now that the beta of FF3 is outperforming it. Sadly, though, this means *none* - not one - of the extensions I use in FF2 work in FF3, fairly crippling the browsing experience (What, no mouse gestures?!?). I agree with the commenter below who feels this is becoming unacceptable, that every major release breaks the extensions you've spent months tweaking and fiddling with and you then have to rely on 3rd party authors bothering to update their code for the new platform.

Also, FF2 still feels heavy and lethargic in operation compared to Opera's latest. So it gets a 3, now that its successor is stable enough to use for everyday browsing.

periklo

periklo reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 8, 2008

xpose, I agree. Opera has its problems, but once you have been using it for long enough, slowness of FF2 becomes painful. Still, it is irreplaceable for web development.

joeshmoe7

joeshmoe7 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 8, 2008

personally, i've only had a problem once when upgrading, and that was quite a while ago. And it wasn't even from an extension, it was some registry thing. I agree with mjm, ff+ns+ds just rocks.

xpose

xpose reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 8, 2008

Imagine if Firefox didn't have memory leaks and loaded as fast as Opera. (Don't knock it till you try it folks, its remarkable how fast Opera loads) Only then would FF be the ultimate browser. For now, its the best we got.

coover

coover reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 7, 2008

Memory use continues to be a problem.

I realize that my other major complaint will be dismissed by most folks, but allowing outsiders to build the extensions simply causes problems. Every time Mozilla updates this browser, many of those extensions simply will not work until the author or authors of the extension get around to fixing it. It would make more sense to have Mozilla take control of the extensions, only allowing those which will not break when updates are applied. Or, if they do break, fix them when the updates are written, making the fix part of the update. I prefer my ad-ons to be a part of the browser, not attached to it.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 7, 2008

Couldn't agree with you more philosopher_dog.

FF needs to get a hold of the biggest problem it continues to have build after build, the memory consumption

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 7, 2008

Lots of work to do on this browser to get the memory issue and resource use under control. It's not just extensions that are the issue, and I know about all of the tweaks. We can only hope that v3 will come close to the unjustified hype this browser has been subject to.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 7, 2008

adblock + noscript + download statusbar = the best possible browsing experience.

guitarplayer9999

guitarplayer9999 reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 7, 2008

This is the only web browser I will use. I have tryed opera and IE in the past but they are horrible compared to Firefox.

Skyfrog

Skyfrog reviewed v2.0.0.12 on Feb 7, 2008

Firefox definately performs better than any browser I've tried, though Opera is a close second. Even trying to compare it to IE in any way is a sad joke.

By the way, the firefoxmyths site is full of false information and FUD. It's run by a Microsoft shill who is well known for quoting out of context information and just plain lying on forums all over the web. Don't believe anything you read there.

fv1fv

fv1fv reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Jan 14, 2008

Not perfect, but the among the top5 most usable ware I've ever used.

Working down thru the prev comments:
While FirefoxMyths.com make valid points, some are silly red herrings (see wikipedia), and the site itself purveys some fud. Also, you should notice the author is anti user-control.

10 year old pc's? I usually use a sub-1GHz, 640kB ram WinXP. Yes, FF flakes after i have 50 or so tabs open (with a couple other (smaller) things running, plus Comodo fw v2, Avira antivirus). I've noticed Opera also begins eating ram with lots of tabs open. But Opera seems to start faster.

Opera's UI is bizarre, and strange things happen during customizing. Multiple inconsistencies in user-experience. The mail and newsgroups are nice, but way too clutzy to use except when desperate. Toolbar, menu, ini, buttons, js (eg, smir.de/cg/), etc can be found on the net. As w/Greasemonkey, research before using userscripts. Despite (?) Opera's js-orientation, Opera seems very security conscious. Opera's good for a slimmer running or for self-contained usage. BTW, context-click>Site preferences to disable js on per-site basis.

IE7 is hopeless. Use Maxthon1.x if you want a usable (tho ugly) UI for IE, and find a good IE settings (friggin mess in tiny tabs gets bigger every year) guide. Reviews of IE7Pro look good, but on XP and Vista Home Premium, FF2 runs better than IE7, so I don't expect to try it w/IE7Pro.

Over the years, I've found that few FF extensions are worth reinstalling: Googlebarlite. Pederick's webdev in a profile for that type of work. Xpather is useful.
Tabmixplus is nice but huge.
I suggest userstyles.org to optimize UI (and webpages).

Font size. hmm, to set font size, use that option. It's a bit like the %size preference in Opera. However you can also specify font and other styles in userContent.css. For site-specific styles, wrap styles in curlies with @-moz This should work as example:
@-moz-document domain(kb.mozillazine.org){body, * {color:red;}}

I don't think moz claims FF's (or SM's) password manager is highly secure. It's a logon convenience for people registered at too many sites. :-) Maybe Opera's Wand security is stronger? (It's a form filler) Else use external password manager? (read betanews reviews :-) )

Blocking? All browsers should run thru Proxomitron and HOSTS.

For employment purposes, I sometimes install Adobe's flash plugin in a FF profile. The other plugins are even more useless: pdf in a browser?? Java on the web was a 90's experiment.

FF's trunk, branch(es), and release nightlies (and tinderbox and other builds) system is confusing. :-) Use Releases only, to avoid confusion. BTW, desktopteam has the opera 'beta' builds.

Google's toolbar went bad after v2 (2004?).

Yahoo periodically revises mail and breaks it in new ways. Turn off javascript. You'll lose the checkall function, but everything else will actually work. Best: switch to Fastmail.

FF and IE7 have the most complete heirarchy of search tools. Full-option searchbars, searchplugins, quicksearch/keyword, and bookmarklets. Opera's missing the full-option toolbar(s).

[this review page needs breaking into multipages, cuz load time is ridiculous.]

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Jan 8, 2008

Cause a website must mean it's true!!

Anyhow, I can't wait for firefox 3.

p.s I can't live without my extentions..

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Jan 2, 2008

Slower than Internet Explorer, insecure, unstable and copied all it's major features off Opera. Get the facts:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Dec 27, 2007

Still one of the great browsers out there. Have to laugh about the memory thing. I guess those 10 year old pc's do have a problem with good software like this.

Howell

Howell reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 20, 2007

The best browser become better and faster with this upgrade :D

Hint : if you want to use extensions that are not intended to be used with this beta (for example your FF 2 extensions) you have to do this :
- open about:config
- if the key "extensions.checkCompatibility" does not exists, create it
- set the value of this key at false
- enjoy

Not all the extensions works but most of them are OK :D

DJHasis

DJHasis reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 19, 2007

This is the final build of beta 2, if you go to Mozilla's site you'll see that it has been released.
This build is even better then the previous.

kronix2

kronix2 reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

Excellent update. I've been using the nightly builds daily at work, and they've steadily added more features between b1 and b2. It's stable as a rock, as well.

The new location bar is a godsend.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

Here's beta 3 (prerelease/minefield) exe and zip (hourly)
http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...lds/FX-WIN32-TBOX-trunk/
I lost firesizer, flagfox, & securelogin.
Retained sxipper but had to reactivate.
I use the portable (3beta1) version & the zip overwrote contents perfectly!
Interesting as the bookmarks toolbar is now a bookmark folder itself. Bookmarks are STILL a pain in the a** to easily organize.
Faster load time as well-I am using the portable version.

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

This is the final beta 2. Dec 21 is when the announcement will be made after the websites and mirrors are all updated. The websites have not been updated yet which is why after installation you'll get the message that this isn't the final beta 2.

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

god christ grow up. all those general statements and you telling everyone that there's no extension the could find useful are just rubbish and you know it.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

This version of Firefox isn't ready yet!
It's a trap!
You've downloaded a release candidate of Firefox 3 Beta 2.

This doesnt seem to be the final beta2 (that is sceduled for the 21. dec) ??

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

Been using it for at least ten hours now. No crashes, fast and stable. Impressed with the "tell me more about this site" tab. This is better than my version of Opera or Foxy 2. Best I've used and I'll give it five and make it my default. It better not let me down after that review.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

As with B1's BetaNews release, this is NOT Beta 2.

http://developer.mozilla...pected-in-late-december/

These are release candidates for Beta 2. While it will likely be very similar, there are a number of things that can happen before Beta 2 is released, therefore download with caution. This is just the trunk build that is intended for B2.

And as far as Christ999 goes -- FF3 is faster than FF2, but you're right. Opera is faster than FF. IE7 is faster too. Safari in some cases is also faster.

FireFox is ideal for developers, fans of the available add-ons, and technical minded users who appreciate the level of security and adherence to W3 standards. Opera is nice, but it's javascript support seems a little slow despite it's amazingly fast page rendering speeds. It's also not a standard browser, so as a developer, it doesn't really make sense to use it. There are no useful developer plugins comparable to FireBug, Web Developer, and Colorzilla.

--

Also, I just grabbed the latest Opera to make sure that I wasn't missing something and resumed work. My sites use a CMS that relies on javascript for various operations including WYSIWYG editing ... and my first attempt:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Opera.exe
Application Version: 9.50.9613.0
Application Timestamp: 471e885d
Fault Module Name: Opera.dll
Fault Module Version: 9.50.9613.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 471e8867
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000f4878
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 8d13
Additional Information 2: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311
Additional Information 3: 8d13
Additional Information 4: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

Firefox is better.I'll come clean and say "Not by much," but it truly does let me browse the exact way I want to.

Firefox has more features, (thousands more compared to Opera) better customization, (again, thousands of options available in prefs.js), need of extentions, and good enough speed. You can't block ads or scripts in Opera without massive tinkering.

Firefox was good years ago........... It's great now! Hey you are right, opera uses about 10 M less than Firefox, but I can't block scripting/ads in Opera easily as I can in FF.

Opera: Good, could still be a lot better. Keep trying!

As for IE, everything is better than that POS.

christ999

christ999 reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

Opera is better.

Opera has more features, better customization, less memory usage, no need of extentions, and better speed.

Firefox was good years ago...........

Now even IE7 is better than firefox

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

An easier way to make extensions work is to set extensions.checkCompatibility to false in about:config.

Very nice, I like the small changes in the Bookmark/Places Organizer, as well as the tweaking of the star/go buttons (now browser.urlbar.hideGoButton seems to work again, you don't need to use Stylish).

Autocomplete in the address bar is nicer too.

Unfortunately, the release notes webpage isn't up for b2 yet (the current one up is for b2rc).

LRN

LRN reviewed v3.0 Beta 2 on Dec 18, 2007

A lot of new interesting features, and all compatible plugins work well.
And you can hack any plugin to be compatible - just unpack xpi (it's zip), edit rdf file (change version to 3.*), save and pack it back.

vincent326

vincent326 reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Dec 8, 2007

2.0.0.11still not good enough, especially when I save pictures and pages, I have to wait a long time before I can do anything!

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Dec 5, 2007

2.0.0.11 is still bloatware.
stll gets up over 100megs of memory use.
still quite sluggish in startup and browsing.
still my favorite browser.
still gets a 3/5 rating.

Point Zero

Point Zero reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Dec 3, 2007

Unlike IE, this browser is close to the ball at fixing bugs, fast, and so configurable. Perfect !

minklein

minklein reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Dec 1, 2007

philosopher_dog

Thanks for the info on nosquint, it works well and makes FF usable at hi res. You are right, FF 2 does not scale the pages correctly when zooming. The Beta News pages run off the edges, especially when viewing all the review posts.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

I don't understand why people who rate this at 3 or below continually rate this product. I mean, when I use a product, and it's so bad that I rate it a 1-3, I typically stop using it and therefore stop rating it. (Sometimes I give it a chance to improve, like filezilla, in which case it DID improve!)

But to waste your time to continually tell us you hate firefox, just doesn't make sense... You aren't going to change anyone's mind.

teranova52

teranova52 reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

Thats the stats of my personal web page .

Same people like to nag , but the numbers tells the real truth .
Browser Stats:
1.Firefox 1.X 0.49 %
2.MSIE 6.X 4.37 %
3.Firefox 2.X 83.50 %
4.MSIE 7.X 11.65 %

analphatester

analphatester reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

some plugin crash but i think this not firefox problem.
very user frendly but very slowest than opera

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

This update was for a stupid regression that shouldn't have happened in rendering some images.

Those of you who are saying wait till v3 are in for a huge surprise and that huge thing is once again the memory. Boast all you want about the fixes but test it(i have) and then come talk to me.

This browser is good when you add great plugins but out of the box its merely a compentent browser that has severe memory issues especially in comparison to Opera which has far more functionality out of the box but can't render at as high a percentage as this browser

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

@Netean

You don't have to download the entire programme.
Click on help > check for updates.. It downloads only the patch.. At least that's what it does on my computer..

Golden Falcon

Golden Falcon reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

With FF 3.0 Closing in. These mini updates are coming more frequently...

Still best browser ever. Despite the memory leaks and becoming a little bit more bloated.

netean

netean reviewed v2.0.0.11 on Nov 30, 2007

haven't we just had an update... and now we have to update the whole thing again!!!! Why can't mozilla have patch updates that mean you don't have to redownload the whole program every 10 days when they find a bug.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 29, 2007

Firefox is my default browser but Mozilla Org. needs to solve the "persistent" memory problem. It's urgent!

Vetta

Vetta reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 28, 2007

This version seems to be a real improvement over the previous regarding speed, but the newest Navigator still has an edge there. So far, 2.0.0.10 hasn't gone memory bonkers on me and that seems another improvement over 2.0.0.9.

It's getting better, I think. No browser is perfect for everyone.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 27, 2007

bloatware! 45 megs at startup, over 100 megs after browsing awhile. extensions make ff very custumisable. updated frequently, but they wont fix tthe bloat! still better than internet exploder.

Tutsumi

Tutsumi reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 27, 2007

bigmama - You do realize that IE 7 hasn't had as many upgrades because...they are slower at giving them? Firefox gives out the fixes on a quick pace and has far less problems than IE 7; which I might add doesn't even have proper plugins which you don't pay for. IE 7 is also a system hog, even more so than Firefox.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 27, 2007

Opera rocks

Firefox does the job but it has no functionaliry.
With 10 extensions becomes functionable but a system hog too.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 27, 2007

How many security updates are required to keep this thing safe, I am beginning to worry more about this than I.E.7 which thankfully is my default. Still I'll give it a four as it works, but another security update with-in the next month and I'll drop it for good.

preinterpost

preinterpost reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 27, 2007

It's a resource hog. Probably due to multi-platform. OK browser but the hype purely originates from people hating Microsoft rather than the quality of the product. On Linux it's of course much more viable.

thebig429

thebig429 reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

Excellent

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

Firefox 3.0 is far superior, extremely fast with over 11.000 fixes and over 300 memory leaks fixed and more to come and a ton more improvements.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

@The MAZZTer
Thanks for the sales speech but have you even tested it?

http://www.kejut.com/browsermemory

As for this version, The memory usage is not good and it's really the extentions that make it what it is. It does do a good job now of rendering most sites. Extentions aside it's an alright browser

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

doctorsmith: There are over 300 memory leaks fixed in the latest Firefox 3 beta.

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

great product, and one day [we hope] they'll fix the memory problems, then it will be an excellent product.

@philosopher_dog I run it on 2 Vista boxes without any compatibility problems

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

Don't hate th player, hate the game!

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

No change log?

This browser is way over rated. It's a total resource hog, and we've been waiting some long years for this issue to be addressed. Oh yes it's the "plugins".... Come on! Make this thing better.

Vista compatibility sucks the big one too.

For the guy that wrote about small fonts try the addon NoSquint. It rocks. You can set zoom settings for every web page and it remembers the settings, although as you know FF is still very bad at zooming proportionally. We're promised this will be solved in V3.

I'd be happy if it ran under 100 mbs most of the time. I personally think that this browser is the most over rated piece of junk. But what other options are there? Opera? You can't use addons. IE7? Even worse. We're stuck with this junk for now.

minklein

minklein reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

I used to love FireFox but now:

AT&T Yahoo forced a new default web page down our throats. The old Yahoo page gave you the ability to set the font size, the new one is fixed, unchangeable. For me that default is about 6 points.

FireFox will not make any adjustment to the page fonts, yes you can zoom in after you start, but this does not remain permanent. I run a 24 inch LCD at 1920x1200, with FireFox the fonts are too small to read comfortably. At least with IE and Opera you can set the defaults and they will remain fixed.In IE just use the largest fonts in the Page settings, and with Opera set the page to read about 120%.

So for me I am back to IE, and besides that I miss the mail icon in the tool bar. Gone since 1.5.

tannenwheel

tannenwheel reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

i just wanna add LOL to XUL :p

http://img174.imagevenue...01_lolxul_122_162lo.jpg

Firefox gets better (or actually my hardware got better, e.g. from Ultra ATA/100 to SATA) but it's still a prick (or Brick, to be fair). You add makeup but there is this smell from the mouth.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

No, mjm01010101. The password manager hole is still unpatched in this release. It was originally reported in November 2006 and it made headlines in July 2007. It's still there. Test Firefox 2.0.0.10 yourself.

http://www.heise-securit...k/demos/moz/pass1.shtml

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

Solid stable browser, doesn't need Active X, updates/patches for the most part get published quickly.
Isn't Internet Exploder.

2 thumbs UP

mo_mo

mo_mo reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

despite the resource hog and a few securities problem, firefox is still consider the best internet borrower at the moment
there isn't a prefect software in this world you know =)
but each one of us can help to make a better open-source software

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

Awesome browser, but I wish I could give it a 10 to counteract the votes from the trolls.

Lsavagejt

Lsavagejt reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

I just cannot think of anything I don't like about it, and I'm happy to get the update. I like Firefox.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.10 on Nov 26, 2007

Fast. Resource Light. Great security track record. Password manager hole patched. For this alone Firefox deserves the highest rating available.

Perezoso [above] The sample page doesn't work. Perhaps it's noscript doing it's magic?

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 26, 2007

Slow. Resource hog. Spotty security track record. Password manager hole still unpatched 4 months after it made news. For this alone Firefox deserves the lowest rating available.

kD371kNf

kD371kNf reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 21, 2007

Not ready for prime time yet (yeah, I KNOW it's a beta)
Went BOOM! more times than a group of guys at a John Madden convention.

When it's final and working well, it'll get the 5 it deserves.

osric

osric reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 21, 2007

Most of the plugins are not yet working but atleast the two most important ones are - AdBlockPlus and NoScript. Don't think I'll need dTA and Flashgot anymore since the default download manager now supports resuming downloads (unless if there's some mega downloading to be done).

asmithz

asmithz reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 21, 2007

Has a memory leak or something. Open up a tab and I get it at over 300mb used in task manager :(

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 21, 2007

They've cleaned out a lot of garbage and that's a plus. I've seen some minor hiccups, but nothing I can't tolerate. It's in pretty good shape at this stage.

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

Disappointing. I have to give it one point for now. The browser already crashed on me two times which is something I'm simply not used to. If the following betas are better I will give more points. Appart from the crashing I didn't see much new. Ok, they reworked the bookmark system but I'm using delicious anyway.

I wonder what MS comes up with. I have a feeling the first beta of IE8 isn't that far away anymore.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

Has great potential. Very fast, but like i expected, allot of my old add on's didn't work. Still, its a great browser, worth trying if your into testing software.

dpcdpc11

dpcdpc11 reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

one word.. actually 2 words.. adblock plus... beat that internet explorer... i'm actually using k-meleon.. still a gecko based browser.. and i coould not imagine browsing without adblock plus... i could never go back to IE... even though it has some good parts as well.
Can't give this build 5 stars... still has the memory leak problem.. and loads pretty damn slow... waitting for the next biuld in the mean time.

OldGeek

OldGeek reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

I have IE7 and Firefox installed and I found pros and cons on both. Firefox takes twice as long to load up than IE7. Firefox handles popups better than IE7. Downloads stall at the beginning when using Firefox, they stall at the end of the download when using IE7. I can't use Firefox to login to Webmin even though the logs show a successful login it just sits on the initial login page. Firefox handles tabs better than IE7. They both have problems and can't honestly say one is better than the other. I think it's a matter of personal preference. I don't think it's appropriate to call someone a "moron" for expressing their opinion, that's just..well.. moronic.

cowgaR

cowgaR reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

ZenWarrior you are moron. That says it all...

the best web browser in this part of the galaxy...far superior to Opera in every single way but memory usage. It is a problem FF developers are adressing nowadays, they found WHY just few weeks ago...

hope memory fragmentation will be gone more and more with every new build of FF3.0

statm1

statm1 reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

Firefox is FF not Fx since Fx implies the browser is just called fox.

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

Firefox 2.0.0.9 is a great browser. Firefox 3.0 is even better, Improved engine, fast rendering of pages bring it to the front of the line for speed. Passes the Acid 2 test which Firefox 2 versions did not. Ability to view a preview of all tabs, Better extension security, ability to star your bookmarks for better orginazation, better history view, malware filter, phishing filter, stronger popup controls and the list goes on.

"Firefox v3 won't even start and v2.0.0.9 has had nothing but problems since its upgrade."

(I would not even call that a review since basicly all you did was gripe so keep your comments to yourself and learn how to delete your profiles folder before a fresh install.)

ZenWarrior

ZenWarrior reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

Among browsers, Firefox has fallen to the bottom of the heap. At this moment in time, IE7 is infinitely superior--primarily because it actually works. (Note: I didn't touch IE7 until every version of Firefox began to demonstrate significant problems.)

Firefox v3 won't even start and v2.0.0.9 has had nothing but problems since its upgrade. Neither has been worth the hassles of trying to use them. Awfully sad to say, but I can no longer recommend Firefox over all other browsers--or *any* other browser for now.

(Note for someone above: Had merely deleting my profiles fixed the problems, I'd not have written a much-deserved bad review of the latest versions. And I'm willing to bet I've been using Firefox longer than almost anyone else here. However, I didn't stop looking at it *objectively* when I began using it.)

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

If you've been anxiously awaiting Firefox 3, now may be the crucial point where stability is acceptable.

My favorite new features:
- Firefox is much faster now!
- You can browse online ZIP file contents! Prepend "jar:" to the URL and append "!/".
- ftp:// and file:// indexes are much nicer and more functional.
- Bookmarks and history stored in SQL format now, allowing for queries to be made to make smart folders.
- Bookmark favicons now update if the site favicon changes.
- New download manager appearance.
- Download manager supports antivirus apps on Windows.
- Full page zoom (Opera-style)
- New Bookmark Organizer UI

Warning notes:
- Split Browser crashes Firefox when you try to use it (version check needs to be disable to use Split Browser)
- Browser crashes when you use zoom on slashdot.org (could be a greasemonkey script doing it maybe I suppose, or it could be the browser)

What I miss:
- Not much, I think there is going to be more Places UI stuff in the future.

Some guy is keeping a changelog:
http://www.squarefree.co...runk-for-firefox-3.html

Dwiebelhaus

Dwiebelhaus reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 20, 2007

Absolute Perfection , Any windows users who love firefox usability and speed and downright stability should try an OS with those qualities.

www.Ubuntu.com

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v3.0 Beta 1 on Nov 19, 2007

Memory leaks haven't been fixed yet, atleast, not all of them.

@Namero and others: It's "Fx", NOT "FF".

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 3, 2007

Interesting sturgess, You gave this a 2 a month ago. than upgraded to 3 when all this was, is a very small security update. So before you start posting bad reviews for the sake of killing the product, maybe try using this for a change. And bye the way, only a select very few members of Microsoft have accessibility to IE 8 as they call it. So that makes you a tech. from Microsoft working on that new browser. So that might explain those bogus, low review marks from you. And to robmanic44, Seamonkey Off the table? Nothing changed with it. Its great also. Nothing has changed with Seamonkey, performance wise, in years. They only make security updates to that browser. Even Netscape, which I have bashed since around version 4.75, has finally produced a fine version in the 9 series. Which is also out.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

Now that seamonkey's off the table I guess this will be my choice. I don't know of any browser that's going to "protect me".

HelgeFossmo

HelgeFossmo reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

sturgess & GrantTLC: where is this IE8 you speak of?

it's funny how you compare this browser with one that is expected to be released in 2009.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

Sven123456789
More than a security update, you need to read what has been improved. Nice to see you checking my previous postings. I have nothing to do with IE8, if you read my comment I was asking about it, not reporting on it. My default is IE7, used to be Opera for years, but too many problems since 8.54. I like Firefox but it crashes, on reflection I will change my vote to a 4. I do use it on a daily basis, also Opera. Still I must try to be more consistent in my marking, point taken. But at the moment for me IE7 is the best, however a new Opera and a new FireFox are on the way, but then so is a new IE.

trynow

trynow reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

Th?s browser getting better.

But I still use IE6 sp2 version.

Why not IE7 sp2...it is very complicated.

we need a browser which is protects us from everything. You see all in one browser. A browser must be remove all spywares and graywares without installing any software. But virus and firewall must be installed into your pc laptop server etc.

And I have to see all removed spywares other in my browser list or quarantine part.

We need this type of browser.

A browser must connect to its server and update all data where you visited and second time your browser must not go that site why you will say think why...

thanks all.
firefox it all the web and get best results with it.

Point Zero

Point Zero reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

It has it's quirks and high mem usage, but it's still lonely at the top.

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

In its basic form, Firefox offers very little over IE8. And having to compile a group of extensions to get the functionality you want - e.g. Mouse gestures (almost as fundamental to browsing as Tabs, IMHO)- is often too much hassle for lay users. It is emphatically NOT the fastest broswer out there, suffers from high memory usage, and suffers from nearly as many security issues as IE. Compared to many other browsers out there it can also *feel* clunky. Maybe 3.0 will improve matters. We'll see.

Ciolouse

Ciolouse reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

Waiting for Firefox 3 :p

cowgaR

cowgaR reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 2, 2007

horsecharles is moron... that says it all ;)

ah I forgot...the best =D

guitarplayer9999

guitarplayer9999 reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 1, 2007

The best browser period! Firefox is great and continues to improve.

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 1, 2007

Every app should be this good. Start off basic and add as much functionality your heart desires through addons. Oh so good.

Also 5 stars to offset ppl who base their votes on how it's posted at betanews. Der.

Pkshadow

Pkshadow reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 1, 2007

When did Seamonkey get off the table as a new release was 2 days ago?

Personally I like/use SeaMonkey.

Wondered why my FF would not update so if this is a RC then why is it posted in such a manor to be mistaken for a full release.
Docked 1 point for making a posting mistake which should never happen.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 1, 2007

fo shiggins bub.

Sativarg

Sativarg reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 1, 2007

I am an avid Firefox user and I would like to down load this version but the Warning dialog says I am forbidden???
Update: this is not a release it is Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.9 RC1 and may still be unstable.

Update: K Now it's updated by Itself :^)

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v2.0.0.9 on Nov 1, 2007

FFS. Yet another update.
Yes, it's a good browser.
No, it's not secure.

I give it a 4 for being miles better than IE function wise, but being nearly equally as insecure.

Opera all the way, I'm afraid.

Namero

Namero reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Oct 24, 2007

ok it much better than IE7 but at the moment it could not win against Opera (simply the faster and better browser at the moment).

but FF 3 is on his way to reach the Opera level :)

Point Zero

Point Zero reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

Still the fastest, most stable, most secure, most extentable browser. Nothing comes close. (No, that lousy Opera neither)

infectiphibian

infectiphibian reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

Greetings from Slovenia http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/28308

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

I like the quickness that a FF patch was released. Opera is slipping. It's got a few new vulnerabilities recently, and they are...silent...

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

Reviewer:Sven123456789
To call someone a moron simply because he disagrees with your views is not necessary, and the asinine comments you make that FireFox is the same apart from better security is tripe, much like your post.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

ROTFLMAO, Good in 2003 and bad now. What are you a moron. Its the same browser with just better security and a few more features and allot more themes and add ons. Dumb post like that proves the mentality of some newb users out there.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

Reviewer: raz0r Oct 19, 2007
Version: 2.0.0.8

Nice and fast browser, all my friends are switching to Firefox to!.
Rating: 5
________________________________________________

ROTFLMAO

You guys are almost ½ decade behind the times... FF was good in 2003... then Mozilla Foundation ruined things-- folks in the know have been running away from it the last year or two actually.

raz0r

raz0r reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

Nice and fast browser, all my friends are switching to Firefox to!.

darkripper

darkripper reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 19, 2007

Opera is a faster and better browser

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

nice update. went over 2.0.0.7, no probs. running these extensions, cookiesafe, toolbar buttons, tab mix plus, enhanced history manager, reliby, my portal, mouse gestures, flashblock, drag de go. every one of these extensions get you spoiled fast. i see alot of posts saying extensions make it slower and eats alot of cpu. i see no difference. especially with flashblock on with 200 tabs open for 3 days without a close. flash eats cpu with idle tabs sitting, but with flashblock on it saves cpu cycles with that many tabs open. i click each tab for flash, my fav extension. opera 9.50 alpha is smokin fast though. netscape 9 is nice. ie7 is decent as long as you "run as administrator" in vista, otherwise flash freezes snags hangs ie7 without administrator mode.

firefox 2.0.0.9 RC1 running good. i want fileforum to post RC releases please. softpedia does. i like FileForum better. been coming here for years. this site is great.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

Like th song says...

Simply The Best!

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

What version number is this? Is it Firefox 2.0.0.8 RC2? Seems puzzling that this version is posted as what appears to be 2.0.0.8 final release. Also, a change log would be handy to have. I'm using FF as my main browser. Looking forward to any updates that would make it less of a resource hog.

SteveJohnSteele

SteveJohnSteele reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

Firefox + NoScript + CookieSafe + AdBlock Plus
:-)

tafugate

tafugate reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

outstanding browser. i run bon echo with tab mix plus and zonealarm's forcefield. however, opera remains my primary browser because of its speed. but i do fire up ff to check my flickr photos.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

Great browser!!! The best as far as I'm concerned. As far as Netscape, if I wanted a browser that came default with every feature known to man, I'd use Opera, not Netscape.

thebig429

thebig429 reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

Excellent as usual! If people are having it crash turn off extensions!

jlschwab

jlschwab reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

netscape sucks, firefox is the best, done.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v2.0.0.8 on Oct 18, 2007

still crashing. I'm becoming tired of that browser.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Oct 6, 2007

netscape 9 release candidate 1 has a checkmark to NOT allow 3rd party cookies. firefox does have this option. netscape takes all the best firefox offers and uses it. it is in their licensing agreement. LINKPAD is awesome!!. firefox does NOT have this either. netscape option are way better. netscape is better than firefox. people need to try it and realize this. it is part of aol. thats ok. aol is awesome if you ask me. they helped pioneer the web anyway through the 90's. there is no AOL branded stuff in the browser.

wdc

wdc reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Oct 5, 2007

crashes and more crashes, stick with 2.006 until 2.008.

speedwaystar

speedwaystar reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Oct 5, 2007

I can quite categorically assure you that Firefox 2.0.0.7 does *not* include either Google Desktop or Google Search Bar. *rolls eyes*

bsr500

bsr500 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 23, 2007

Firefox should be removed from the title of this, as to not confuse people.. This is NOT a pre-release of Firefox 3.0, and should not be considered one until Beta phase.... Instead this is a milestone release on the same tree (there is a difference in readiness).

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 23, 2007

Still much better than IE. As far as updates go.....waaaa, all software gets updates, get used to it. If you don't like updating don't use a computer.

Crispy777

Crispy777 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 23, 2007

Why bother to even mention Phoenix and firebird in the topic? Thats is as stupid as mention what Stings real name is or USA (formerly known as Columbia and the Americas).

Firefox is #1 browser.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 22, 2007

This is just awful and the almost constant updates to version 2 are a serious pain.

sirhardi

sirhardi reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 21, 2007

Dwapite my liking for Firefox, the latest installer has the googlebar AND Google Desktop hidden as install, as detected by Kaspersky.
I do not appreciate hidden installs.shame on you !

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 21, 2007

is more like it. No way will I keep this browser on my machine. I have a list of things that twist my knickers about FireFox. I won't list them because I have so many bad things to say.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 21, 2007

FireSkunk is more like it. No way will I keep this browser on my machine. I have a list of things that twist my knickers about FireFox. I won't list them because I have so many bad things to say.

burles07

burles07 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 21, 2007

i downloaded the latest version of this and it is not back to the normal name.. mine still says minefield

Stephen_hazen

Stephen_hazen reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 21, 2007

I have been using Gran Paradiso since it was first submitted as a beta, it was listed as Minefield for a while and now with this release they changed the name back. I have had no problems throughout the updates. I have been using it as my main browser.

condorloco

condorloco reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 21, 2007

It is an alpha in all sense of the word. It would not allow me to browse anything other than the home page.

netean

netean reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 20, 2007

it is alpha, but it's awful
very slow to start
very very slow to render
does wierd things with the url address when the page loads
doesn't look any different to v2.. probably all "under the hood" stuff, but still... nothing for any regular person to actual care about.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 20, 2007

the same with v2 to me

wicketr

wicketr reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 20, 2007

hell0, there is a plugin for that. Tab Mix Plus. It will let you do alot of differnt things with tab manipulation as well as "Single Window" mode.

hell0

hell0 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 8 on Sep 20, 2007

Please let them integrate single window mode. I CANNOT imagine any time I would want more than one browser window, EVERYTHING should be done in tabs of the primary window. Period.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 20, 2007

I don't like it. I like opera because I can customize everything I want

Usability, functionality and speed in opera is miles ahead

Also the plugin system in ff sucks. About 5 plugins and you've got only crashes :-(
(and the memory consumption is high)

Firefox is a very good browser. However developers must think about the future. Users don't want only a safe browser...

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 19, 2007

If it didn't crash so often especially with intensive flash content, I would rate it a 5. That said, I love this browser. It has recently bumped Opera to the #2 spot in my rankings :)

GrantTLC

GrantTLC reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 19, 2007

Ach - that's what I get for posting first thing in the morning! This ain't Gran Paradiso, is it? *embarassed*

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

Of course firefox is a 5. It's a great example of open source done right. For me it is 100% reliable and you just can't beat its extendability. As for speed, it comes in last, but you give some and take some.

Point Zero - thanks for the laugh. Your post came off as pretty nasally nerd-elitish. How you look down at all us hayseeds from your mighty comp desk throne.

coover

coover reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

Point Zero wrote ...

"... IE still is the browser for the braindeads.
Opera stays the browser for trying once and then uninstalling. Firefox stays the browser for the hardcore browser who like speed & configurability."

I guess I'm one of those braindead folks who like and use IE7. It's not because I haven't tried using Firefox. I have. And it's not because I'm a slave to anything MS. I'm not. It's just that I prefer the way IE7 looks on my computer and the way it can be configured. As far as speed, I find IE7 at least as fast as Firefox, and I find Firefox and IE7 both faster than Opera. But the thing that bothers me most about Firefox is (believe it or not) the extensions that must be used for configuration.

A lot of you are saying "extensions? That is what I like about Firefox". But darn it, whenever Firefox is updated, half of those extensions break and have to be reinstalled. I'd rather have whatever features I want in the browser to actually be a part of the browser. It doesn't work that way with Firefox.

"Security" you say!"Firefox is more secure than IE7." No, no, no. Firefox is not much safer than IE6. All but the Firefox Fanboy Security Pros will tell you it is true. Most Pros will tell you that IE7 is no less safe than Firefox. Both browsers have problems. In some cases, they have the same problems. In other cases, the problems are different, but neither is 100% safe. Firefox is in no way safer at this time than IE7.

Firefox is a great browser and I have rated it a 5. IE7 is a great browser and I would also rate it a 5. If, however, I had to rate it on my preferences, IE7 would rate a 5 and Firefox about a 4.6.

But most of you probably like working with extensions. For you, Firefox is a pure 5 and I'm happy you have it and I'm happy you use it.

Point Zero

Point Zero reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

*sarcasm*
Yeah sure ! What a speed increase !
... especially for an Apple Quicktime vulnerability is all that got changed !
*sarcasm off*

Anyway, IE still is the browser for the braindeads.
Opera stays the browser for trying once and then uninstalling.
Firefox stays the browser for the hardcore browser who like speed & configurability.

some guy

some guy reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

nice speed increase,
but becomes screwed up while watching stage 6 divx

CharlieGimbert

CharlieGimbert reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

Paul Skinner & pjb, it is BETA

"During the run up to Firefox 2, we released beta builds and release candidates for wide testing and feedback as part of a community beta program. Anyone who downloaded and installed these pre-release versions of Firefox became part of this beta program and was automatically updated to the Firefox 2 final release.

To ensure continued improvement in the quality of Firefox 2, we are now applying the same program to our security and stability release process for Firefox 2. Starting within the next 24 hours, everyone who participated in the beta process will be offered a pre-release version of the next security and stability update.

If you are participating in this program, thanks for your continued help. Please report any problems or issues at our community feedback web site at http://feedback.mozilla.org or through the mozilla.feedback.firefox.prerelease newsgroup.

The final release of Firefox 2.0.0.7 will take place shortly after we complete wide testing through this program. All press inquiries should be directed to press@mozilla.com.

To exclude yourself from the beta program, simply download and install the latest stable production release of Firefox from http://getfirefox.com.

In the near future, we will be accepting additional people into this community beta program. More information on how to join will be posted soon to http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/.";

nms04

nms04 reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

@mjm01010101

opera has an ad-block feature!!
http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/
simply choose an opera block list, and copy everything to urlfilter.ini

pjb

pjb reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

@ElectricEye:
It usually takes 12-24 hours for their website to update. The download here is probably Eng-US. I would anticipate a check on their site in the morning will show the .7 versions for all country's.

@mjm01010101: You could always try Admuncher.

I like both FF & Opera, and Admuncher works really well with both of these browsers.

Edit: 19th Sept.
As anticipated version 2.0.0.7 is now listed on their site.

@CharlieGimbert
Not sure where you get your info from, it is not a beta.

Paul Skinner

Paul Skinner reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

@ElectricEye:
It's been released to their 'Final build' FTP server area. They do that so all the geeks can download it first, then the general public tomorrow.

It slightly lessens the server blow than if everyone downloaded it at once.

In other news: Opera is better.

ElectricEye

ElectricEye reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

I LOVE Firefox but how come it's still "English 2.0.0.6" on offical webpage? Is this beta?

ok Paul Skinner, got it. By the way, Opera is not better ; )

and pjb, as i said it's "ENGLISH 2.0.0.6"

mo_mo

mo_mo reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

IE is good but Firefox is better =)

Firefox forever LOL

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

Personally I'm a FF fanboy as everyone would put it. I don't think IE *sucks* per se', but I like the freedom of extensions you get with Firefox. Several extensions I use help me daily.

I just hope this version kills the issue with multiple tabs not responding for a couple of minutes. File>WorkOffline, File>WorkOffline again fixes it. We shall see.

Infidelus

Infidelus reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

However, forget Internet Explorer. Its crap and it sucks.


That is your opinion, and nothing more. Internet Explorer does NOT suck as you so succintly put it, and I wish people would stop saying Firfox rocks and IE sucks.

I personally don't like Firefox. Not because it *sucks*, nor because it's utterly overhyped. It doesn't float my boat and from the tests I've done with it, it's slower than IE.

Sure, it has a few nice points. A few of the extensions mentioned make it nicer for browsing (like Adblock), but I can get the same with IE7Pro.

For those of you that love it, great. Just don't keep slamming a bit of software just because it doesn't have a million different (and largely pointless) extensions, and because it's made by Microsoft.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

This is the browser I use and trust. And all because of one (quite controversial) add-on:adblock. Without ad-block I'd be on Opera in a heartbeat. I find that functionality and capability lacking in Opera.

The biggest gripe I have with FF is when you are loading a page within tab, access to other tabs isn't possible, or is very slow and cumbersome. Not as much a problem on most modern hardware, but on some of our older laptops it's quite painful... we're talking 5-10 second delays...

Still has issues with multiple entries in add/remove programs.

Has trouble with some java applets. Either Mozilla or Sun needs to fix this, I knock them both down because it's been ongoing for like 4 years now.

nms04 (above) after about 15 minutes of fiddling, I still see ads on cnn.com, and many other sites. adblock not only removes the ads, it removes the space where the ad would be, so you can actually see more of the web page.

Adblock I import a text file (which contains far more than ad servers, it includes graphic images I no longer want to see, like logos, banners, and silly icons that annoy me on my favorite pages.

Keep at it, opera devs and users. You have a great browser.

Mystiqq

Mystiqq reviewed v2.0.0.7 on Sep 18, 2007

Fact is, Firefox isnt for everyone. Most people do not understand what extensions are or even how to use them. Lot of people dont even care.

If you know your way around computers and want more from browser then Firefox is it. Firefox IS more secure if you know what you are doing and use extensions. e.g. PasswordMaker and NoScript, both which inevitably makes your browsing, when used correctly, more secure.

For computer illiterate people, id suggest something else. Opera perhaps or some other free alternative. However, forget Internet Explorer. Its crap and it sucks.

devinnnn

devinnnn reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Sep 6, 2007

firefoxmyths = mostly disinformation

Had ie not been integrated into the OS, which in itself was unwise, a fair comparison of speed and resource use could be made.

Security? Microsoft XP Home creates all user accounts with admin rights. That's a security nightmare waiting to happen. IE is an open portal to evil. While firefox run by that user also runs in an admin context it takes another level of user folly to allow evil invasion. [vista will just annoy users in disabling the "protection features" to run with the most privileges with least annoyance... and back to square one]

By design (and deployment) IE has ALWAYS been more insecure than firefox.

**

HOWEVER, there's been an INTOLERABLE shift in extension (add-on) development. There are EvilWare add-ons available from addons.mozilla.org: those that surreptitiously generate profit for the developer, data mining, user tracking, adware, click-through models, and worse. Have the moderators gone mad? What happened to the open source utopia? Giving for the greater good of others? If your add-ons are awesome people will donate voluntarily.

pola

pola reviewed v3.0 Alpha 7 on Aug 22, 2007

its good but in alpha i uses it but it crashes i give it 4.

zridling

zridling reviewed v3.0 Alpha 7 on Aug 6, 2007

bodean, it's left up to the individual vendors and devs to update their software listed on FileForum, especially alphas and betas, which sometimes don't make history lists and changelogs.

bodean

bodean reviewed v3.0 Alpha 7 on Aug 6, 2007

Been out for a week now, betanews is a little slow.
Works great though.

ShiftedBlue

ShiftedBlue reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Aug 5, 2007

The Firefox backlash here is so viscous it's hard to even comprehend. Look, it's just a free browser that works, and works amazingly well. It's not trying to hurt you, it doesn't even know you.

I've run every major browser ever released, and I keep coming back to Firefox. It's fast, easy to use, secure, stable, and extensible. I keep Avant and Opera around for when I need them, but 99% of the time, Firefox gets the job done.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Aug 1, 2007

Does Mozilla make millions off end user searches? Is IE faster than Firefox? Is IE more secure than Firefox? Is Firefox not standards compliant? Does Firefox have unpatched vulnerabilities from 2004? Do over 90 Firefox extensions collect data and uniquely identifying users without notifying them? Read the truth:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

bodean

bodean reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

A lot of broken things in this version. Go look on their website's forums.

For one, pluggins won't download. Get some download error when trying to download pluggins. Definitely a step BACKWARDS for firefox.

I have tried to install two or three add-ons from the Firefox site including the new e-Bay live update. They download OK but when I try to install them I get error code -288.

christ999

christ999 reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

no functionality
opera is better.

philosopher_dog

philosopher_dog reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

It's my main browser, but I'm still having resource issues. I've seen this browser use over 500 mbs on my setup, with some tabs open! I've tried most of the tweaks and tips that are around, but it's still using too many resources. I've compared my addons to the list of problematic ones given by mozilla and uninstalled ones I don't urgently need. I'd love to know how to get this browser running properly because other than this issue I love it.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 31, 2007

If you want a bunch of toys to play with, this isn't your browser. It's faster than the current stable version because it takes out all the toys. You should also remember it's alpha, so you pays your money and you take your chances.

RaGhul

RaGhul reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 31, 2007

Um, anyone care to comment on the product itself? Which is (ahem) Firefox 3 Alpha?

Is it any good? Still too new? Any improvements/regrassions?

Hello?

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

2.0.0.6 is running fine on my pc. I mostly use Seamonkey, but have firefox also with about a dozen extensions. Not sure why people are having probs with this. My pc only has 512 mg of ram. If i had to guess, it has to be some of the add on's people are using. If your having problems i would recommend totally removing firefox. And not just by removing it from control panel. Go to progam files and delete the folder for mozilla firefox. Than go to document and settings in your c drive and find the folder there and delete it. And install the latest firefox without any add on/extensions. If it still doesn't work well, than maybe check firewall and security settings on your pc. If it still doesn't work. Well go and use another browser.

RaGhul

RaGhul reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

STUCK

I remember when this puppy ran out of the starting gate with v1.0, and then with v1.5:

It was sleek, slim, TONS faster than IE6, with useful features that many of us were just beginning to catch on to. I remember thinking to myself why hasn't everyone else caught on to that. And when Firefox slowly gained market share, I patted myself on the back for being an early adopter.

Then came v2.0

Since then, it has become a horrible resource hog. Many Firefox pundits have pointed out that most users nowadays should have PLENTY of memory installed to support it, but I've used it on PC's with 3gigs of RAM, and it still sticks.

Other reviewers have mentioned that it feels "clunky". Strange, I know, but I can't think of a better word to describe it. CLUNKY.

Also, I'd like to reply to Firefox supporters who say things like, "All you have to do is go into the *--* settings," or "Enter *--* value," etc...

I have tried all of these. Firefox still drags. And even if these settings had worked, that's something that shouldn't be required of you. How much configuration does an application need? I've been hearing this one particular phrase tossed about alot lately... "It just works." I think this should be the aim of ALL software developers: that it works right the first time, every time.

It may seem like I'm slamming Mozilla, but I've been a faithful Firefox user for over 2 years now. I love the extensions, search options, and RSS feeds. No other browser handles these things as well as Firefox. I'm just disappointed.

I'm so addicted to these features that when my Firefox stalls, sticks, or freezes entirely, I'm forced to grin and bear it. But not everyone is willing to sacrifice as much for their "toys".

And if this keeps up, I too may just move on.

Aires

Aires reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

In response to those who complain about the memory use - it will the particular plugin(s) that are to blame for that and not Firefox itself. There are known problems beetween certain plugins and Firefox - do some research folks.

Critical bug in Firefox 2.0.0.6:
Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2007-27 - Unescaped URIs passed to external programs

Solution to this:
Enter about:config in the location bar
Enter warn-external in the Filter: box
Double-click to set the mailto, news, nntp, and snews lines and set to True

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

It's a final, so instead of fussin' around you could goto:
help
check for update
done!

db.

DoHickey

DoHickey reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

It crawls on my 2.40 Ghz processor, I can imagine what it's like on a Pentium 233 system. Plus I don't like having to use Sun Java & install extensions. It reminds me too much of Netscape. I don't like it at all.
I prefer Maxthon 2 and streamlining the look of it to what I want to see. Nope, don't like it.
It's more like FireDog than a FireFox.

Vantorax

Vantorax reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

lol! That so-called browsercheck page revealing a security flaw in FF isn't even working for FF 2.0.0.5.

Perezoso

Perezoso reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 31, 2007

Slow. Resource hog. Spotty security track record. Password manager hole still unpatched.
http://www.heise-securit...k/demos/moz/pass1.shtml

It has very nice extensions though.

----
This is a screenshot for the fanboy who can't follow instructions in plain English.

http://img227.imageshack...27/4171/vantoraxuv7.png

That's FF 2.0.0.6 giving away the password [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-AR; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6]

Alex Stevens

Alex Stevens reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 30, 2007

It IS final, it's in their ftp releases folder. It takes them a while to update their main page but that does not mean it's not final.

http://releases.mozilla....irefox/releases/2.0.0.6/

DakotaSunRunner

DakotaSunRunner reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 30, 2007

I like firefox but I have recently turned over to Netscape of which I can use most firefox extensions work with netscape. I find for myself at least that netscape is better and faster and it has not crashed once on me like firefox has. To each their own I guess. However, I shall give it a 4 as it is a very good product.

DrTeeth

DrTeeth reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 30, 2007

FF is not as fast as its cracked up to be, certainly no faster the IE in any test.
I do use it because of the extensions and the fact that the cursor focus follows from display frame to bookmarks automatically (without clicking).

Jammerdelray

Jammerdelray reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 30, 2007

Excellent browser that is fully customizable with extensions and themes and blazing fast.

Cons: crashes every now and then, popup blocker inneffective. Firefox 3.0 when it is released is going to fix all this.

waynebike

waynebike reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 30, 2007

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0.0.6

This is still a beta, not quite final yet. Getfirefox.com still displays 2.0.0.5 as well.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.6 on Jul 30, 2007

After install it claims this is a beta version? confirmation?

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 30, 2007

i like its clean interface,but there are no useful feature builted in.so i dl extension,it is useful,but what extensions bring me was memory hog and messy UI(not the way i want).
Fast rendering but not the fastest.
For sure it is not the most secure browser.
In fact,this is an oustanding internet browser.

mozillafirefox

mozillafirefox reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 24, 2007

support!!you can download firefox at its own homepage

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 19, 2007

This browser is crippled. Mozilla needs to get the 3 beta out soon. I don't know why anyone would want this on their system.

lasthouse

lasthouse reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 19, 2007

"- memory usage can be reduced, it simply caches pages for fast access and does not integrate in OS using libraries the os loads when u sitch on your pc
(as ie does)"

I'm tired of seeing that canard repeated. Opera has a similar feature, yet Opera does it 1000 times better and isn't a bloated memory hog. That's because the Opera devs know how to code efficiently and the Firefox devs do not.

Having said that...like many I use Firefox as my main browser because of Adblock Plus and NoScript. If Opera ever implements a user friendly ad blocker and a domain specific script blocker like NoScript then there would be no need to put up with this bloated mess called Firefox.

Wishful thinking I know but one can always hope.

anonymouscowturd

anonymouscowturd reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

This release is buggered. All Winzip executable files are being downloaded corrupted. Anyone else with the same problem?

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

I like Mozilla's 5 days response to the bugs, consistent quality releases since version 1.5x

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

In REAL-world surfing, this is the fastest browser out there. Pages render quickly, the auto-update feature is extremely efficient, and I love the extensions. Kudos to Adblock and Noscript!

Good to see the recent security exploits patched in version 2.0.0.5.

midfingr

midfingr reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

Simply the best and getting better with each release. No other browser that I know of is so easily customizable. The about-config (not a typo) command within the Firefox offers so many tweaks and workarounds, it's worth it's weight in gold. You can use this in combination with SandBoxIE, NoScript, and AdBlock, and feel fairly confident surfing the web and it's available on multiple platforms.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

I love it, if I use any other browser I get pain in my tummy!

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

I'm having trouble to access my Yahoo mail through Firefox and other browsers. Says cookie rejected.
Anyone knows how to fix it??

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

my default browser. slow and a memory hog but otherwisse great.

Cionno

Cionno reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

@ Blaxima

- memory usage can be reduced, it simply caches pages for fast access and does not integrate in OS using libraries the os loads when u sitch on your pc
(as ie does)

- clunky feel did you ever try to use a theme like ifox graphite?

- yes it doesn't render 100% of the pages but 100% of browsers can't do that, this is because the most o internet sites are "optimized" for ie, I used to be a webmaster and you don't know how many code is necessary to fix the rendering of pages ...
about rendering errors to be fixed: ie 90% FF 10%

- loads slower? strange i've never noticed and used opera ie6 ie7 ff safari on a T1 connection

Skizelli

Skizelli reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

Despite its flaws, it's still updated way more often than IE. And if you look closely on that page Blaxima kindly linked us to, you'll see this:

"Most Critical Unpatched
The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Less critical"

I do agree that it still uses too much memory. Clunky? No. Renders pages just fine; just not pages that a moron designed specifically for IE, which doesn't follow the standard anyway. Loads pages fast enough. No scrolling issues here.

Still my browser of choice. Opera is a close second.

siryak

siryak reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

Beats any browser out there hands down in both speed and features. This is by far the BEST browser.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

AlanS2001, I think YOU need to get YOUR facts straight.

http://secunia.com/product/12434/?task=statistics

Add to that the criticle flaw with the url that they originally blamed on IE7

Still uses too much memory.
Has a cluncky feel
Does not render 100% of pages
Loads pages slower than the competition
Has scrolling issues

Haaglander

Haaglander reviewed v2.0.0.5 on Jul 18, 2007

Great programm.

orizng

orizng reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 5, 2007

I have been using firefox 3 nightly for a while, its a shame the company like apple would marketing their super unstable safari for windows with huge fanfare, and stupid people are buying it.

Just take a look, firefox alpha is much more worthy the fanfare than that stupid safari 3, which is 10% re-alpha. Apple is becoming more and more shameless.

olavinto

olavinto reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 4, 2007

To darkripper:

One of the main ideas of Firefox is that it is "empty" after a basic install for those who don't want or need any additional features. And for people like me it who want to have an advanced browser with lot's of features it has very good extension system that allows you to easily add the features you want. And there's a lot of extensions.

Opera is a very good browser and it has very good features but in my opinion it's interface has a lot to improve to get more users switch to it. It isn't even close to the simplicity that Firefox offers. All less experienced users that I've seen using Opera have said this. They also don't read much instructions if they aren't just next to the item feature that they are using...

I'm giving Firefox the highest rating because it is my first choice and recommendation for everyone exactly because it's suitable for all users and can be fully customized to every user's liking. It supports standards very well and is stable and secure.

Of course there's always much to improve in everything but it is at least updated quite often and it's development is secured for a long time.

Darkman00

Darkman00 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 3, 2007

It says "Windows(ALL)" here..

But it's NOT supported for Windows 98/ME .. (as far as i recall.. when it didn't run on my ME before.. - i read at their site ..that it will NOT)

Or am i wrong? .. did they include 98/ME maybe as well now? .. lol

In any case.. - ya.. Opera is nice..
But they all are nice.. i like variety :)
Even still use IE often nuff :)

darkripper

darkripper reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 3, 2007

don't bother use opera (more features but not as plugins)

opera rocks

firefox is good browser, but "empty"

ok, with plugins is good browser but without them it's crap (that's why 1)

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 3, 2007

I think uneducated people shouldn't be allowed to leave comments on here. Firefox is THE BEST browser out there because its highly customizable. I haven't downloaded and installed this alpha yet but THE BEST just keeps getting better and I am sure that is true with this version!

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 3, 2007

release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/p...efox/3.0a6/releasenotes/

siryak

siryak reviewed v3.0 Alpha 6 on Jul 3, 2007

Ofcourse it can take more extensions than this one. Nobody makes their extensions compatible with an Alpha. That is the way it has ALWAYS been. As soon as this thing gets released the extensions will get updated to support it.

bh22kk

bh22kk reviewed v2.0.0.4 on Jul 3, 2007

2.0.0.4 stinks. I lose the scrollbars unless the window is microscopic. Can't see the information telling me what its doing at the bottom (no status bar). Tabs are not moveable (e.g. I prefer them at the bottom of the screen). No thanks, I'd like to go back to the previous version, please.

MetalHellsAngel

MetalHellsAngel reviewed v2.0.0.4 on Jun 28, 2007

Out of all the browser's I have tried Firefox stands alone on top. The fact that It's skinable, can be customized with extensions, and is open source (so it will continue to be developed), makes it a great browser to use. I used maxthon prior to this, and it has nothing on firefox. If your looking for a way to customize your browsing experience look no futher firefox is for you!

xproject51

xproject51 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on Jun 26, 2007

Still no smooth scrolling?

No thanks. I feel like I'm using notepad when scrolling webpage in firefox. Too ugly.

Any BTW, if there are no vulnerabilities in firefox, I guess we don't need to update it anymore.

kronix2

kronix2 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 5 on Jun 8, 2007

Netscape 9 is literally Firefox 2 with a different skin and a lot of crap bolted on. That's why more extensions are compatible with Netscape 9. By the time the first beta of Firefox 3 is released, pretty much every extension will have been updated to support FF3.

By the way, Gran Paradiso is the project name for Firefox 3. It will be called Firefox 3 when it's finished.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v3.0 Alpha 5 on Jun 8, 2007

EDIT: kronix2-- so minefield name gone? bon echo gone?

Another name? Is no one in charge? Are the monkeys running the zoo?

Sorry, but it's Netscape 9 for me...it can(ironic, no?) take more extensions than this one.

qhobbes2

qhobbes2 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 5 on Jun 7, 2007

@alanpalmer
Opera and Gran Paradiso both pass the Acid2 test (http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/) while IE6 and IE7 fail, pretty badly too.

This browser is fast, low on ram with few tweaks of the about:config file, loads Meebo faster than FF does on my slow PC so I'm happy with it.

djurbino

djurbino reviewed v3.0 Alpha 5 on Jun 7, 2007

Good grief. Of course there are bugs. It's an ALPHA version. If there weren't any bugs, it wouldn't be an alpha version.

Think before you post.

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 5 on Jun 7, 2007

Firefox is THE BEST BROWSER EVER!! There is one thing that firefox has that no other browser has, with the exception of Netscape which basicly is Firefox. That one thing that far exceeds other browsers is the capability to customize almost every aspect of the browser. There are so many extensions, you can add your favorite services and make the browser and experience your own. Until IE or Opera have that I will not switch. By the way, Opera widgets suck. Why would I need those if I have Google Desktop and Firefox? IE and Opera need to get a clue. Customization is everything! GO FIREFOX!

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0 Alpha 5 on Jun 7, 2007

good, but i will continue to use opera

opera's gui is friendly to customization

firefox is only extentions and no usability

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on Jun 2, 2007

Mastertech, there are no listed vulnerabilities for Firefox 2.0.0.4. Get your facts straight.
http://www.cve.mitre.org...keyword=Firefox+2.0.0.4

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0.0.4 on Jun 1, 2007

Firefox is Secure = Myth

CVE lists 266 vulnerabilities:
http://www.cve.mitre.org...key.cgi?keyword=firefox

Over 90 extensions have been found to collect data and uniquely identifying users without notifying them:
http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=500994

"Hackers can drop malicious code into systems running Mozilla's Firefox when the browser is armed with any of several high-profile add-ons, including Google Toolbar and Yahoo Toolbar."
http://www.digitalartson...s/index.cfm?NewsID=8005

Get the Facts: http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

@Alan

The reason Mozilla $Corporation$ has to keep releasing updates is to try and patch all these vulnerabilities that keep showing up! They still have not patched many:

http://secunia.com/product/12434/?task=advisories

The CVE link shows Firefox's POOR security history.

osric

osric reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 31, 2007

For those of you who didn't know:
Firefox is a "Web Browser"
Its not an all-in-one "Browser + Mail Client + Torrent Downloader + Dishwasher + BlahBlahBlah"

Opera is a very good all-in-one, but I don't like the fact that it is closed source. What will happen to the project once a few of the top developers quit? Make the project Open-Source and you will see it get a lot more popular.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 31, 2007

Agree with bigmama,i cant use firefox without some extension installed.And yet there are a thread claims that"Popular add-ons to Firefox are the latest criminal attack vector" on cnet lately.
http://www.download.com/...723824-12.html?tag=head

There has been some discussion today regarding what to do with the Firefox bloat, sparked by a Wired article.

Mike Schroepfer, Mozilla’s VP of Engineering, says “Other software, add-ons, extensions and other things can impact performance.”
Since extensions are written and developed by 3rd parties and not maintained by Mozilla, there are no guarantees that they won’t contain any memory leaks or have a negative impact on the browser’s performance.

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overall, ff is safe, gecko is a good engine, and generally does the job. So i give ff a rating of 3 stars as it is (not with plugins and extentions)

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

12 security fixes in a single release, its funny, last time I updated IE I had 2 fixes and one of them was not a security fix. Guess firefox can no longer claim its more secure than IE because that truth has come to light.

Still a good browser thou, although a bit bland out of the box which is why I give it a 4. I rate it on how it performs on a default install, not how it CAN run with extensions. If I wanted to rate extensions, I would do so.

voltaire

voltaire reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Yes it does work with Vista. I have been running Firefox on Vista since beta 2 and never had problem with it.

In my experience it is not the core browser itself that is usually the problem it is the extensions that people load into Firefox that cause the problems.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

does this work on vista? just want to make sure it didnt b4

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

In reply to bigmama:

IMHO Firefox is better.
Opera comes with too many extensions to be usable.
Opera gives me more garbage by default, without the need of downloading widgets extentions etc., than I know what to do with.

So my choice is Firefox.
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Firefox is good because it is the least bloated of the main stream browsers.
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However Opera is safe, has a decent engine, and generally does the job. So i give Opera a rating of 3 stars as it is (with all the bloat.)

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

always an excellent product.

not an RC, it's on the releases page at the Moz site
http://releases.mozilla....ses/2.0.0.4/win32/en-US/

chocolim

chocolim reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Firefox give you the oportunity to chose what features you want, so is not true that it need a lot of extension to became a BROWSER. It's a browser it need a lot of extensions if you want a toy.
It make a very good job as browser and even a better job if you play with it and adds a lots of extensions to it.

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

This appears to be an RC ... not the final. It launches this on first start: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0.0.4rc/whatsnew/

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

IMHO opera is better
firefox needs a lot of extensions to be usable

opera gives me the same things and more by default without the need of downloading widgets extentions etc.

(ad blocker, trash bin, side panel, copy to note, paste & go, session manager, good and quick rss feed display, create searchbox, wand passwords, mail and chat accounts, torrent downloader and much more exist in opera with the default installation)

So my choice is opera.

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firefox is good but needs a lot of features or plugins and customization to become a BROWSER.

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however ff is safe, gecko is a good engine, and generally does the job. So i give ff a rating of 3 stars as it is (not with plugins and extentions)

gnovak1

gnovak1 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

After an install I had a problem.I had four icons of FF on my desktop and I couldn't delete it (unrecognisible file format).In the end I managed to solve this unusual problem.Otherwise it works flawlessly.
One question.After an install you're connected (when you open FF) to their official web site and according to them this is still Beta version (RC 3).Is this 'cause a company still didn't make an official presentation (press conference)?

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

I see MasterTech is still trying to get people linked to outdated, BS websites. Please don't feed the troll by responding to him. For my money this is the best, most customizable browser out. Did it occur to those of you who are claiming that it is a "release candidate" that the final release candidate (RC3) needed no changes after testing and was released as the final?

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Bloated at 5 megs? Try the 7 series of netscape at 24 megs with all the aol crap. Plus, i hate people who hate larger software downloads. What are they running, a pc 6300... I want every friggen feature avail. I know theres a ton of Firefox extensions out there, but i would download a 70 meg version of Firefox if it included the top 50 extensions or more. So give me the darn bloat any day of the week...The other complaint i always read (oh the software uses to much memorie). Really, guess that 1 meg of ram on there pc's can be a problem.

Mystiqq

Mystiqq reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Bloated? Exactly what do you consider "bloat"?

Havent found any "useful" extensions? Seriously, have you even tried? Heres a small list you should consider.

Add bookmark here, All-in-One Sidebar, Bookmark Backup, Fasterfox, Firefox Showcase, Flashblock, Greasemonkey, IE Tab, MediaPlayerConnectivity, NoScript, PasswordMaker, PDF Download, Sage, Scrapbook, Tab Mix Plus, Translate...

PasswordMaker, among few others, are simply a must have. Since ive learned to use it, ive never had to worry about passwords. Each password is unique and you dont have to remember any of them.

Bookmark Backup name is bit misleading. You can backup anything and im currently using to backup my Tab Mix Plus session (.rdf) data etc.

Ive got also tons of web development extensions, but im not going to list them here.

Firefox in the right hands is simply unmatched. Extensions allow so much and best is that extensions are written in a way that allows anyone to modify them. However, "pc newbies" might not like this at all, so other options might suit them better.

l3rutalSilence

l3rutalSilence reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Nikkie, I realize that but and I like Opera but it's just way too bloated for my taste.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Mastertech, stop trying to make money by sending people to your conspiracy sites.

It's not the most secure browser ever, but it beats the hell out of IE7.

I wish they'd fix the memory leaks and lag that occurs with certain plugins, but extensions make this more than worthy, even over Opera.

siryak

siryak reviewed v2.0.0.4 on May 30, 2007

Best and easily the fastest browser out there. Also to the people saying it is not more secure then IE tell that to my classmates on Myspace that got hacked while I didn't. Guess who was using FF. Me

kyleabaker

kyleabaker reviewed v2.0.0.3 on May 13, 2007

Too heavy and bloated in my opinion. The extensions are a nice feature, but I haven't found any that I would actually consider useful for me. Load times are also slow.

I prefer Opera. It's lite, faster and super lean. Plus it already has many useful features available out of the box while other browser require you to install add-ons. Opera is my browser of choice by far.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v3.0 Alpha 4 on May 1, 2007

This has display issues with some sites. Opera can't render them as intended either so it's almost certainly the site coding that's at fault. They work in IE6 & 7, though. This has no obvious improvement over FF2 and I'll stick to using Opera.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v3.0 Alpha 4 on Apr 30, 2007

Nothing special.

havas

havas reviewed v3.0 Alpha 4 on Apr 30, 2007

seems the perfomance is greater than 2.0,
but some pages can't display correctly,but it works on 2.0,omg...

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 4 on Apr 30, 2007

Far better than Opera or IE7. Mozilla continues to put out a quality browser. Seems like this will be the browser to use when out of beta.

asif2bd

asif2bd reviewed v3.0 Alpha 4 on Apr 30, 2007

Its Working Great With Blogger.com, RapidShare.com and most of 128-bit secure page more superBly then previously. Its now more reliable then previous all builds. Its shows its going to compete greatly with Opera's latest and Upcoming 10.0 Codename "Merlin".

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v3.0 Alpha 4 on Apr 30, 2007

firebird, phoenix, firefox, minefield, gran paradiso, locomoco, putasucia, seamonkey, mozilla, mekkalekkaheimekkaheiniho, mamakumamasamakumakusa, v. 1, 2, 3 simultaneously....

999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 plugins, extensions, scripts, mods, configs.......

I've had it! I'm up to here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 31, 2007

Actually those arn't myths.Do you believe everything you read?

From experience, I've fixed more pc's that got messed up while the user had ie as their default browser.Spyware and lots of other nasty things got into the pc etc.

Opera is actually better than firefox in this department...

and no, not every user or the average user has a proxy..

mcm

mcm reviewed v3.0 Alpha 3 on Mar 29, 2007

Type "about:config" into the location bar and "browser.cache.memory.enable" into the filter field. Set that preference to "false". This will reduce Firefox's memory usage by quite a bit but clicking back on the browser will no longer load the page instantly.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 27, 2007

Firefox is secure = Myth
Firefox is more secure than IE7 = Myth
Firefox is faster than IE7 = Myth
Firefox is Standards Compliant = Myth
Firefox is not for profit = Myth
+ many more...

Get the facts:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

xee

xee reviewed v3.0 Alpha 3 on Mar 27, 2007

Thumbs up Artem, I totally agree.
I'm fed up with FF's mem and CPU usage, but I have no choice but to wait, as no other browser offers the same or better.

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v3.0 Alpha 3 on Mar 26, 2007

When the authors of this browser start thinking about optimization and not about features?

Recently on the Internet I've seen a study where Opera 9, IE7 and FF 2 were compared. Amongst them FF ate most memory.

As a Linux user I'm very disappointed that FF still licks memory - the corresponding bug was filed probably three years ago.

bigmama

bigmama reviewed v3.0 Alpha 3 on Mar 26, 2007

improve functionality and it would be great.

i admit that firefox has better rendering engine than opera.

but opera is still the best browser.

surfing it's not the only thing a user wants -and opera developers know that

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 3 on Mar 26, 2007

"This is a starting point for planning and design information for the Firefox 3 release, including schedules, feature sets, and branch process information. Gran Paradiso Alpha 3 is an early developer milestone for the next major version of Firefox that is being built on top of the next generation of Mozilla's layout engine, Gecko 1.9. Gran Paradiso Alpha 3 is being made available for testing purposes only, and is intended for web application developers and our testing community ONLY. Current users of Mozilla Firefox should not use Gran Paradiso Alpha 3."

Jegar48

Jegar48 reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 26, 2007

Deleted, wrong review

hazlema

hazlema reviewed v3.0 Alpha 3 on Mar 26, 2007

Amazing browser, keep up the great work!

This is an alpha release and should not be confused for a final product.

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 22, 2007

hey...my pop-ups (not the ads') dont appear properly...kind of deformed!! need help

BOTOX

BOTOX reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 22, 2007

Mastertech, dont start again.
so I just repeat myself:

That pretentious website you refer to:
http://www.FirefoxMyths.com
is what I just called it.
It tries to establish myths by pointing to comments on www.spreadfirefox.com which are made by dumb monkeys like you.

Dont be so ignorant, that website tries to bring down Firefox largely on the basis of unknown comments made by unknown people. Some crazy comments does not make a myth. Jeez, I even mailed th person behind that, but he is as ignorant as you. Definitely biased, both of you.

Anyways, 3 points for Firefox because I've had some stability issues lately. Dont really care if that is user related or not, it just happens.
Opera is a nice alternative. I've made the switch and am fairly happy with it, although the adblocker from the Firefox plugin performs better than the buildin version of Opera.

blidstone

blidstone reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 21, 2007

"On Windows Vista, IE7 is much better and safer than Firefox".

Based on what? I'm NOT criticising, I'd like qualification because I'm still thinking about moving to Vista.

caronn

caronn reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 21, 2007

On Windows Vista, IE7 is much better and safer than Firefox

osric

osric reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 21, 2007

Why do you guys keep arguing about which browser is better? FF and Opera are designed around two completely different strategies.

FF is an open source software. The Open Source Software Philosophy is centered around building specific tools for specific tasks rather than one huge software that does it all. The original design Mozilla Suite got too bulky so they decided to break it down into two parts FF for browsing the web and Thunderbird for sending/receiving emails.

Opera is a freeware, but a closed source software. Nonetheless, Opera has got a really talented team of developers. They have packed really good features in it, while at the same time preventing it from getting bloated.

So the bottomline: Try both and use what suits you. You have the power to choose!!!

lgjivic

lgjivic reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

@cowgaR

first of all, do not talk something that you don't know for sure. You should have said that it was you opinion.

Now, learn something about opera;)
http://www.markschenk.com/opera/history.html

Pensador

Pensador reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

The best browser around.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

Great extensions/add-ons - I use both Opera (for general surfing) and Firefox (for "those" sites destroyed in Opera and development). They both have their flaws and neither is any better than the other in my opinion. Choice is generally a good thing.

cowgaR

cowgaR reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

bigmamma sux ;)

No trash-can - heh?
No mail-chat accounts - heh? Thunderbird...mail extensions

No sidebar - heh? dozens of ext

No quick-notes - heh? hundreds of ext

No paste&Go -> heh? thousands of ext

No create-your-own-search -> heh? milions of ext ;)

No wand-passwords -> heh? you suck ;P

No phising-protection -> you extremely suck =D

No transfer-resume -> gazillion of download managers that actually WORK (opera's DM was nightmare for years)

No crash-restore -> you know what? YOU SUUUUCK!

No speed-dial
No torrent-support
No good rss-feeds management
No content(Ads)-blocking
No voice-support
No tab-preview
No speed-dial

bla bla bla don't have time for Opera fanatics... Opera's far behing FF and I've been using both from the archaic era of Internet, when Internet wasn't even called Internet...it was called...let me recall... IE =D

Big memory-usage(if you have extentions much more)

You are right, till FF 3.0 we will need to live with its leak, it is heavy memmory hungry, 400MB - 700MB of usage when I "work" with it...sadly ;/

Plz don't say that these features come as extentions...

ah I see now ;) should read your post but you suck =D

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

Opera sucks:

No Adblock
No Noscript
Massive Site incompatibility

I've read on the Opera forums all the ways you can block ads and get your browser setup the way you want, none are as easy as just using adblock.

Without ad blocking and content control, I won't use a browser: Period.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

This is the best browser available for Windows.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

Still the best. Hits sites that Opera can't handle. User-configurable - put in what you need , leave out what you don't.
No memory leaks here.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

sophist, how about you stop flaming against people everytime you reply. I have sent a reply asking fileforum to handle you simply because there isnt a reply on betanews in which you dont attack someone. Try just reviewing the program and let others have their own opinion.

pea

pea reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

You can get almost all opera features as firefox extensions. I'm a website design developer and use firefox, sure opera renders pages slightly better, But sometimes practically outweighs that.

I used opera for over a year before firefox. After one of the updates, Opera started deleting and resetting my settings, cookies and buttons. I still have opera installed but always end up going back to firefox.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

The BEST, I can't even think of my pc without Firefox, I love it even more since I found mozbackup.

the artist

the artist reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

the last time i used this, it started memory-leaking LIKE HELL and got unusable, i had to restart it from time to time.

It's a very serious flaw, and even if the rest of the browser is quite nice, i don't see myself using this again neither till 3.1 and above.

Opera 9 is still the number one... and wait till Opera 10...

ryanvm

ryanvm reviewed v2.0.0.3 on Mar 20, 2007

How do you figure that Seamonkey is more secure than Firefox when they're build of the exact same Gecko core?

stisev

stisev reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Mar 13, 2007

Opera is the best browser out there, hands down.

BUT, I am giving Firefox a 5 simply because it's my best backup browser when Opera's (proper) rendering fails. :)

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 25, 2007

I took this off my system and I don't see myself using it again. Seamonkey is faster, more secure, and without the hassles.

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 24, 2007

sadly for the first time in many releases I am experiencing a few bugs, which makes me rate this version a 4 instead of 5 which I normally give it.

PicAFlic

PicAFlic reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

Personally I wouldn't trust SpySweeper with my life. It crashed my laptop once when I was trying to run it. So, personally I wouldn't trust a word of what it says. I just use Ad-aware and Spybot. Anyways, great update, just keeps getting better and better!!!!!!

onestar

onestar reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

Just upgraded to 2.0.0.2, and SpySweeper indicated that Sogou Toolbar tried to be installed.
Has anyone else seen this?

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

- The excess of memory consumption is a fact (38MB right now while I'm posting)
- Don't like that in v2 the option to block "third party cookies" have been removed from options.

kronix2

kronix2 reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

Yes, Firefox uses far more memory and takes longer to launch than its competitors. However, the massive number of add-ons means you can customise it to your heart's content. If you want a feature, it's most likely out there in the form of an extension.

I've used Firefox since Phoenix 0.3, and while I originally switched because of tabs, I stay because of the extensions and customisability. I've got 53 extensions enabled at the moment, cut down from 200. Most of those extensions offer functionality that isn't available in IE7 and Opera. IE7 was a huge step forward, but it's still behind Firefox.

I gave it 4 out of 5 because of the massive memory leak.

marctos

marctos reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

I've just installed version 2.0.0.2 and it deleted all my saved passwords.

sturgess

sturgess reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

I have for the last three years or so always used Opera,but having compared the latest versions of both browsers, now much prefer Firefox.The one problem I have is that Opera has a superb email client built-in to the browser,quick and effective.The alternative offered up by Firefox i.e. Thunderbird is slow and cumbersome.Still Firefox the browser rates 5 with me, and Opera a close second at 4 and a bit.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

I recognize that Firefox is imperfect, and I think the MAJORITY of us Firefox users do. I consistently rate it a five not out of some foolish belief that it has no short-comings, or that that it couldn't be improved, but simply because to this point, it remains the best browser that I have ever used.

My only criticism of the previous review(er) would simply be a question: Why acknowledge the zealots, rather than ignore them as they deserve? In bothering to state that you expect an unwarranted attack, you've not only wasted words and time, but have in effect, invited the attack and ensured it will come.

The only way we can avoid flames is to remain, at all times, above them.

jcollake

jcollake reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

Actually Joe Dirt didn't say he was rating Firefox a 4 because of the lack of a change list here, he just mentioned the lack of a change list in the comment.

I like Firefox. What annoys me is the people who so zealously defend it. I mean, you have a problem if:

1. You are offended if someone rates the product a '4' instead of a '5'.
2. You are afraid of criticism or debate. Firefox should be able to stand on its own merits without the need to censor anyone who dares question it.
3. Refuse to acknowledge that all software has bugs, including Firefox. Firefox, like anything else, has its strong points and weak points.
4. Personally attack anyone who has a negative opinion of your browser. People are entitled to their opinions and personal attacks show desperation and legitimize whatever criticisms may be leveled against Firefox.

I am using Firefox right now, and am a Firefox user. Though, I don't expect me being a firefox user to prevent me from being personally attacked for rating Firefox a 4 instead of a 5 and acknowledging that it isn't perfect. Oh, and of course, these zealots don't like to be called zealots. So, attack on...

speedwaystar

speedwaystar reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

here you go ^_~ http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0.0.2/releasenotes/

Joe Dirt

Joe Dirt reviewed v2.0.0.2 on Feb 23, 2007

Change list please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ulmo

Ulmo reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Feb 13, 2007

More than a browser : a Web Tool
IE is a good text viewer
Safari is a very good browser
Opera is the best browser
But Firefox is not just a browser.
An environment, a Plugin receptor, a Web Dev paradise.

Howell

Howell reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 9, 2007

It's an alpha so there are many compatibily issues with actual extensions and it's quite slow but it works OK ;)

BTW : Alpha3 is OUT :D

net_junkie

net_junkie reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 8, 2007

After reading some of the concerns about 2.0, I have to agree to a point. I have had a few rendering problems, as well as crashing of the browser.

Concerning this release, I have noticed it uses a bit less RAM, it renders faster and better, and I have yet to have a crash. I'm actually quite amazed, since it's still in the development stage. Other alpha and beta releases have been problematic for me, but this one is solid! It must be the new engine update they are using.

Of course, many extensions and themes won't work with this release, but I'll continue to use it for the stablity increase I have experienced.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 8, 2007

Foley's comments are the most insane i have ever heard. Too many features! Too much security! Go back to the minor league and use IE. Anyone who knows how to use the internet to its fullest would use anything but IE. --Bloatware. I love people who have dial up that call anything somewhat of a large download, bloatware. Give me a 500 meg browser in the future and i would download and use it if it had tons of features and security measure. The other complaint i always read in Betanews- oh, the software is using too much memory. Too much memory, what do these people have, 1 meg of ram. I have 512 megs and i use 10 apps at one time with no problem. and for the (Its spelled Phishing by the way)- yes there are some very tricky sites out there. My girlfriend got what looked like a valid msn email and it was bogus and the website was very close to msn.com, but just a tad off. So yes, phishing detection is important.

azimov

azimov reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 8, 2007

ref : MickyFoley,

fine, nobody is asking you to use it. If you want to go around the net with no security, then fine by me. But then your PC may be part of some botnet.
I think a 7Mb download is not bloatware. If you want IE, you have to get the whole OS.
I've been very happy with FF since version 1. I only use IE, if I need to check that a website that I'm working on will work on it, most times it doesn't.

MickyFoley

MickyFoley reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 8, 2007

since firefox becomes 2.0, the browser is crapware. sorry, but: firefox is the only app, that is castrated & overbloated at the same time.
castrated from features in options, that was very useful, and overbloated with "security" tools, like "anti-phishing".
who don't know, if a site is fishing or not, should unplug the inet cable from the pc, and never connect the net again.
a shame, what mozilla did to the best browser, that was known as firefox 1.5.0.x ...

greets

ryanvm

ryanvm reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 8, 2007

ModderXManiac - Tamarin's not coming until Gecko2, which will be the backend for Fx4.
aredo - A lot of the bugs you're referring to have fundamental flaws which need to be addressed. If they were simple fixes, they'd already be fixed. That said, Fx3 is making a LOT of backend changes which should make fixing bugs like those easier to do.

That being said, Fx3 is still shaping up to be an awesome release.

aredo

aredo reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 8, 2007

Increasing version numbers doesn't make code any better. Firefox 2.0.0.1 has some serious cache bugs with cached pages appearing on many sites instead of new pages. Instead of adding new barely tested code the current code should become bug-free and robust enough, which is just not yet.

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 7, 2007

The latest roadmap (updated 11/08/06) says November 2007. Unlike 2.0, 3.0 is a major upgrade. It finally passes Acid2 and for the Mac it uses Cocoa!

dzjepp

dzjepp reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 7, 2007

ModderXManiac, the road map says Q1 2007? Of course that doesn't mean it will hit that day with 100% certainty but it doesn't say late 2007 either.

http://www.mozilla.org/p...ts/firefox/roadmap.html

siryak

siryak reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 7, 2007

Seems very well polished for an Alpha...I can not wait to see what is in store for the final version. Not only is FireFox more functional, but it is leaps and bounds faster than any other browser for me. I am going to be going back to 2.0 though until my fasterfox add on gets updated. But that is the only reason that I am going back. Otherwise a very stable build.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 7, 2007

I'm really looking forward to the final release of this. It's the product of some 135,000 lines of code donated from Adobe, what will this code do, you ask? This will rapidly increase the performance of the browser in rendering areas, especially with "Web 2.0" applications using AJAX and javascript(or-any auto-executing web codes), the dividing line between web apps and desktop apps will grow ever thinner.

Another great addition is a completely revamped Gecko, the 1.9 framework used in this version is currently being imported into the browser for the OLPC because it does a far better job of resizing pages for low DPI displays than previous versions. This will also mean that rendering performance will be drastically improved on all measures, and for people using PSP's(including myself), the new Gecko will resize muuuch better, making the pages look more at home. This will use less resources and I'm definitely looking forward to it.

For fixing alot of the memory leaks, I must applaud the crew at Mozilla. You won't expect a final release of Firefox 3.0 until early next year or holidays according to the roadmap. Until beta stage, I'll stay away from these builds.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v3.0 Alpha 2 on Feb 7, 2007

Link didnt work for me..
http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...-US.win32.installer.exe did however

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Jan 27, 2007

Fix the memory leaks and bugs that have been plaguing gecko from day one and I'll switch from Opera.

BOTOX

BOTOX reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Jan 27, 2007

Mastertech, get your own facts right. That website you refer to:
http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

is a silly website. It tries to establish myths by pointing to comments on www.spreadfirefox.com which are made by dumb monkeys like you. If someone writes something down, like: "Mastertech is a Microsoft Monkey", is that something people see as a myth or as a truth??

Dont be so ignorant, that website tries to bring down Firefox largely on the basis of unknown comments made by unknown people.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Jan 23, 2007

A completely insecure product, even IE is more secure!

http://www.populartechno...x-more-secure-than.html

Not only is Opera Faster, more secure and more compliant (Acid2) just about everything else you ever heard about Firefox is not true:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

Get the facts. All the feature people need are now in IE7.

Botox, the paged is completely sourced and completely factual. Try reading the section called "Myth Origins" before you jump to more ridiculous assumptions. If the facts bring Firefox down, well maybe it wasn't that good to begin with?

polysius

polysius reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Jan 8, 2007

Firefox really leads the competition when you start to install extensions to Firefox. No other browser even comes to what Firefox can do with all the 100's of powerful extensions.

Make sure you download the ABLOCK PLUS extension to Firefox, it removes every ad you'll ever see.

Other extensions can change the interface to your liking, add 'missing' features you might like from Internet Explorer, Opera or other browsers, etc. With the correct addons, you can make Firefox look and work almost exactly like other browsers.

Firefox 2 has some subtle changes over 1.5, but they're very much welcomed. One of the best is if your computer crashes/turns itself off, Firefox will come back up and will remember what pages you had open at the time of the crash. The other nice feature is the built-in spellchecker. The GUI is also very pretty, in fact: it is perfect... it couldn't be any better!

There really is no contest here.

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 26, 2006

for a alpha it is more stable with less memory leak compare to 2.x ..also indeed a little faster .. altered the install.rdf to allow install up to 3.x on all my fav addons and they all worked without a hitch ..

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 26, 2006

tried it for a week and will revert back to 1.5.X ... 2.X.X is just to bugy to use even without any addons - i will wait till 2.X.X becomes a little more stable ..

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 24, 2006

Fine and dandy, but I will be running this in a virtual OS until enough of my favourite extensions (or their equivalent functionality in other extensions)are implemented for 2.0

jbejm

jbejm reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 23, 2006

Any one who loves Opera (which socks)Over Firefox should stay on that side ( Diam0nd ).
This is a good software and works good for me. And don't forget it is a Alpha and not a final.

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 23, 2006

As much as I hate Microsoft... I can't see why this is better than Internet Explorer 7

TC17

TC17 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

I'm changing my rating again to a lower number. One thing that has ticked me off with Firefox the entire past year or so, is the 99% cpu cycles it decides to start taking away whenever it feels like. I find it insanely stupid that this bug has been around for so long and not fixed. I have been using Firefox totally for the past year, but this is really getting on my nerves.

Sven123456789

Sven123456789 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

Just a bug update i see. Still the best browser out there. Just wish some of the old extensions were updated, but than again, its open source and allot of these programers must b busy.

siryak

siryak reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

Great browser. Version 2 kept crashing on my, but this build so far seems sturdy.

morganp

morganp reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

Not perfect but extensions make surfing the net so much better.

bugmenot

bugmenot reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

Firefox is a memory hog. 25 megs just to open it. And it could go up to several hundred megs after opening a few tabs. I want a mean and lean Firefox Lite.

cannie

cannie reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

It goes perfect on Windows 98 SE. I keep using this OS because I feel at ease with it because it is compact, secure and sufficient for my own. I already paid for a legal copy and dont't need to spend more money or update illegally.

Logain

Logain reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

Pros: Mozilla Firefox would have to be one of the best browser out there, I love the new feature of spell checking within the browser as I do enjoy posting on forums and the interface is quite refreshing.

Cons: The only problems is that several themes & extension which are supposts to be compatible with this version of Firefox tends to make the program a little bit buggy, However it must be taken into account that this is the first version of Firefox 2 so as time goes by this problem will be fixed as Mozilla takes the time to continue to update Firefox to make it an even better browser.

zridling

zridling reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 20, 2006

Same here. Firefox's extensibility is great for power users, but chasing them down is tiring. Not enough to lure me from Opera. Firefox and IE are just now getting features that Opera has had since 2000 and 2003, saved sessions being one. And with built in BitTorrent, it's just one more app I don't have to mess with. We use Firefox at work, and the one thing I do like is that its apparent simplicity is very real.

madcats

madcats reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Anyone else had these problems with the new version?

This quote from majorgeeks.com re:Firefox Ver2.0.0.1

Editors Note: Just as an FYI to you all. There have been a number of bug reports in this version 2.0 Final - Ranging from lost bookmarks and broken tabs to complete instability.Others report no

Version2(11/30/06)is working fine why mess with it?

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Great product. It's my default browser.

Tutsumi

Tutsumi reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

http://www.neowin.net/fo...t=0&#entry588108579
2.0.0.1 change log

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

still the best by far

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Sorry, but Firefox is no longer in the same league as Opera, at least not this version. I can't believe how spartan and simplistic this browser has become.

benZin

benZin reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

@bufftbone: Totally agree.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Best browser period! No other poser of a browser can compare!

avacam

avacam reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Firefox is an excellent web browser. It's design allows both beginners and advanced users to experience web content the way that they want it. With a plethora of themes and extensions available it can be customized in a myriad of ways.

The developers have been quick to patch critical security issues. Firefox has been designed such that it can be easily picked-up and understood by new users.

gericb

gericb reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Just installed it, didn't effect my Java 6 console or anything else that I can tell, working fine. Seems to be pretty robust.

cyberguy

cyberguy reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

(Windows Version)Occasionally hangs up on startup requiring a shut down from the windows task manager. Also on numerous occasions when starting, the brower window does not show up at all. However hung Firefox background processes are left lying around in the Windows Task manager. Sometimes you can find multiple firefox instances running there depending on how many times it was unsuccessfully started. Firefox will not successfully start until ALL of these hung processes are terminated with the Windows Task Manager. After that it is a 50/50 change that it starts correctly. This has been noted on at least 6 of my workstations with varying configurations.

4 stars.

JEdwardP : I have been using FF since it was called Phoenix in 2002 and feel I am reasonably versed about the about:config. However when the development team removes necessary GUI functionality from the browser it is NOT reasonable to force the average firefox user (who may not be as well versed with the about:config as you are) to go digging around in it. Frankly after over 4 years of using this browser I still do not like having to wade around in the rat's nest called about:config.

Like the Windows registry, if you unwittingly change the wrong options in about:config it is quite possible to totally FUBAR Firefox. Recovery requires not only uninstalling the program and erasing all registry keys for it, but also erasing the profile (along with the bookmarks, themes and extensions). Expecting Beta testers to go screwing around in there is totally unreasonable. Beta testers are not necessarily developers.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

I think firefox has become more of a bloat,with high cpu usages on certain sites,memory leaks and other probs...
Also firefox developers have only copied from opera rather than their own technology...

IE7 and Opera work far better...and opera leads the pack by a few 100 light years..

azazel666

azazel666 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Disabled Java 6 console.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Anyone looking for certain features that SEEM to have gone missing since 1.5.x should have a look through their about:config settings and/or make a quick search of the Mozillazine forums before posting a review here that might only serve to embarrass themselves.

You could complain about features being moved from the UI proper and being hidden away in about:config, and you'd certainly have a point.

If you're an experienced Firefox user, though, you should KNOW to go looking in about:config for options not visible in preferences. I don't particularly like it either, but since I know to expect it, I can deal with it rather easily.

Five more stars for my browser of choice. It's hardly perfect, but for the way I browse the web, it's definitely best.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

This version disabled java six console during extension check.

shtraue

shtraue reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Changelog can be found here:
http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=494984

zapatero

zapatero reviewed v2.0.0.1 on Dec 19, 2006

Excellent, as usual.

tipsyboy

tipsyboy reviewed v2.0 Final on Dec 19, 2006

This is a disgrace:

- no possibility any longer to accept pictures from the original website only, Option REMOVED

- they INTRODUCED the "super cookie"

SHAME ON YOU!

So - no way I will use this "update". I'll go on using 1.5.0.7 as the last reliable and somewhat secure FF.

And if that will be "out of date" - well, screw 'em . . .

mottigr73

mottigr73 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 12, 2006

It's run faster, I like it.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 11, 2006

Runs great, a little bit faster than Firefox 2, but no noticeably new features yet.

Diam0nd

Diam0nd reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 10, 2006

In my humble opinion, I really do think that FireFox is crap when compared to Opera. However, even if in my eyes it will never be as good as Opera, I'd love to have a browser like this as my #2 or #3. Great stuff, in that respect.

P.S. Now, all the fans that go, talk crap, and rate low the competititors of your favourite programs, imma tell you this: you are retarded.

computershack

computershack reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 10, 2006

Perhaps they should resolve all the issues in Firefox 2 before starting on 3. I'm using 1.5.0.8 because 2 is so crap.

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 9, 2006

lol i love those a******s who download alpha version of a software, do not read the documentation and put 1 because it "doesn't support win98". of course it doesn't, the support has been removed.

as for the actual review.. great new features yet very buggy.

ezh

ezh reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 9, 2006

This is an early alfa on Firefox 3.

kmleow

kmleow reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 9, 2006

Please upgrade your ancient dinosaur age OS for goodness sake.

You cannot expect developers to continue to support old OS forever???

cannie

cannie reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 9, 2006

I use Windows 98 SE at home.I am the legal owner of a copy and feel happy with it: even with eventual crashes Windows 98 SE is really cool, and no matter if it is supported or not you feel free and find thousands of compatible programs. I think there are millions like me in the whole world, potential users of compatible software. I nevertheless rectify mi prior evaluation and evaluate it according to what I have seen in another machine using XP. I'm sure it is or it will be a great work (edited)

himajin100000

himajin100000 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 8, 2006

I'm Minefield user.
I usually use this browser and it works well for me.

BTW, Although Betanews says "OS Support:Windows (All)", I think Gran Paradiso or later does not support Windows 98/Windows ME/Windows NT.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.../show_bug.cgi?id=330276

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 8, 2006

Haven't tried it.....yet, but, since I'm a firefox user, and am glad I turned over from the Dark side, it gets a 5 from me!

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 8, 2006

Release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/p...efox/3.0a1/releasenotes/

There's a lot of under the hood changes; it looks like nothing visible to the naked eye is new.

sn1p34

sn1p34 reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 8, 2006

Crashes within 3 seconds of starting up. No major improvements noticed. Hopefully they will get some of these bugs worked out befor the next alpha.

Mister_RDZ

Mister_RDZ reviewed v3.0 Alpha 1 on Dec 8, 2006

I've been a FireFox user for a while and since I don't mind living on the bleeding edge, I installed this version of FF. So far everything seems fine; it's quick to render pages and nothing looks out of the ordinary on any of my regular sites. If you have numerous Add-ons, like I do, you'll have to use Nightly Tester Tools to make some of them compatible. The good news is that they will work! Kudos to the development team. Keep up the great work.

Dave

CMNetworx

CMNetworx reviewed v2.0 Final on Dec 3, 2006

I am suprised to see bad ratings for this. I have had absolutely no problems with firefox. Installation went extremely smooth, loads quick, and didn't change in appearance so nothing new to learn.. I Do like the spellcheck feature, made me realize I don't know how to spell some words right.

One feature I do not like, Updates for plugins and skins are kinda like a nag screen, you have to dl the plugin and then restart firefox before it has started, I would like them to dl in the background, and install prior to my next launch of the browser..

Way better than IE7!!

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v2.0 Final on Dec 2, 2006

for me
1.opera
2.ie7
3.firefox

sometime crash and quite slow to me..
improvement needed but it is still a good browser

VanAlex

VanAlex reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 27, 2006

I loved Firefox, but this latest version got me using IE 7. About 80% of the instalations I do of this new version have a behaviour that get's me crazy. The page I'm viewing jumps up and down a few pixels indefinetly. This happens in fresh instalations, without any addons, and in differenct systems (XP, Vista).

I hope they correct this soon, since it is hard to live without adblock plus in IE ;)

yanike

yanike reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 23, 2006

Sucks!!! No mail button and not even close to 1.5.6 release. IE7 rip! Which IE7 ain't that great either.

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 22, 2006

Formerly I was giving Firefox 3-4 stars, but this negligence about security and performance, really leaves a bad taste in mouth.

With all the resources Mozilla has behind them(large development team and even larger supporting community) I can't help myself but ask what are coders doing to make Mozilla faster and safer.........since it seems nothing.

Massive critical hole found again, FF2 and IE7 vulnerable:

http://news.com.com/Fire...37844.html?tag=nefd.top

too bad.

hellrazor238

hellrazor238 reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 18, 2006

great its secure,cool themes its great truley replaces ie 7

Nanobot

Nanobot reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 6, 2006

Firefox 2.0 isn't a revolutionary upgrade from 1.5, but it does sport some very useful new features, such as inline spell checking and session restoration after a crash (which may happen due to things such as memory leaks from extensions, or often in my case the unstable Flash 9.0 beta on Linux).

2.0 also introduces a change in the default theme, which I am not such a fan of. I particularly find the home icon to be ugly and out-of-place. The classic theme is available for download, so this isn't too big of an issue for those who prefer the old default.

For web developers, Firefox 2.0 doesn't offer much new, since it is still based off the Gecko 1.7 branch that Firefox 1.5 used. Nearly all platform development work since Firefox 1.5 has been going into Gecko 1.8, which looks to be very impressive and will ship in Firefox 3 in 2007.

In regard to Mastertech, he is a known anti-Firefox troll and spammer of that Firefox Myths site which contains lots of deliberately misleading content, outright lies, and misquotes. Google for "Firefox Myths" and look at some of the responses to his article.

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 4, 2006

A huge disappointment. Although Fx 2.0 still scores over IE 7.0 in terms of security, the much hyped release falls short of a lot of expectations.

To cut a long review short:

http://listvine.com/2006...o-upgrade-to-firefox-20/

http://feeds.penton.com/...x/~3/42419696/Index.cfm

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v2.0 Final on Nov 2, 2006

I don't believe the ''hype'' but i also don't think it is a must to find something wrong with a program cause it has hype at all.

The reason maxthon runs great for so many sites is due to it having the ie engine.Most sites build their sites to work for ie.Maxthon isn't the only one to view these sites fine.There are tons of browsers that do so for the very same reason.

A lot of the times you will have resource issues cause of the extensions being user made and not always tested by the people who created them.Maybe someone should make a tool to see what extensions leak memory?

Otherwise,choose carefully and it will prolly be best if you don't download loads of extensions.Any program will have issues with too many addons.Look at miranda.Choose wisely...

I notice at first boot,without extensions,it runs fast but after all of my extensions it starts to hold it down.I use firetune for that though and all is well again.

The reason i use firefox and opera is due to its great hold on security.Ie has always given me problems and not too mention when i had to clean crap from my families pc's..it drove me nuts.

I went as far as to changing the icon of maxthon to ie's to get them to stop using the basic ie browser.I got my parents to swtich to firefox so far but my sister doesn't understand how these programs work and is too scared to switch.. like everyone she wants her comfort zone and fears change without an understanding at all..o well

Btw,I can view a page with ie's engine in firefox with just a click of a button.There is an extension for that,if i ever want to see what the page looks like in ie etc.

The only problem i have that the above users pages describe would be the java issue.if you upgrade java to the latest,the problem goes away.other than that,everything works fine..

FmlyRnn

FmlyRnn reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 31, 2006

Well, I just downloaded it, and I do not see anything buggy! Now, I am ready. I have Opera 9, Firefox 2.0 and IE7.

Skizelli

Skizelli reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 25, 2006

It's improved, but why did they dumb down the cookie control? I can no longer set it to accept cookies from the originating site only, unless I'm over-looking something here.

I currently have both Opera 9 and FF2 installed on my system for various reasons, so the following response doesn't stem from being a FF fanboy...

@Mastertech: That site is outdated and applies to FF 1.x. Although I don't discredit it completely, believing what you read isn't any different from believing the "hype." But to counter your argument, you can give this a read -- http://www.webdevout.net/opera_myths.php

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 25, 2006

The facts don't change FF 2.0 is still slower than Opera and IE 6 and 7. FF 2.0 is still not standards compliant and is insecure. Get the facts not the hype:

www.FirefoxMyths.com (Updated for FF 2.0)

Nothing has been able to "counter any argument" because they are simply excuses and rhetoric not the facts. Always ask for documented reproduceable proof and the sources. If they don't have any, don't believe them.

David Hammond is a notorious Firefox Fanboy Spammer who would give you a big pop-up warning that your browser was dangerous if you visited his site with Internet Explorer, he got mad that I exposed him for what he is, a Firefox Fanboy. He now goes around attempting to slander me because he cannot argue the facts.

coolticker

coolticker reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 25, 2006

To Blaxima, just one little thing :

Maxthon is NOT a browser itself, it's only a IE engine embedder, so it uses Internet Explorer motor to display web pages.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

Im going to be as unbiased as I can here because I really don't like the misleading FF fanboys do especially when it comes to speed and saftey(Secuna).

The Good--------
-Looks good and I really like the way you can customize it
-Seems faster than previous versions.
-Faster than Opera
-I prefer it now that it doesnt want to open a new window instead of a tab by default.
-I love that its smart enough to go to a page rather than a search engine when you type "cnn" in the URL.
-Love the spell check

The Bad--------
-Still not as safe as Opera
-Still not as compatible with ALL sites like Maxthon.(but its getting better)
-Not as fast as Maxthon
-Still leaves folders, files and keys all over even after an uninstall.
-Still uses waaaaaaaaaay too much memory

Bottom Line--------
This browser still doesnt live up to all the hype. Its good looks cant overshadow the fact that its still a memory hog. Maybe by version 3 it will have caught up to the other browsers where it really counts, of course by then where will the others be.
I'll keep checking it out but for now don't believe the hype!

EDIT: @coolticker
Yeah thanx!! It's an IE clone which still makes it a browser as it has its own feature set, like the one that lets you use the Geko engine instead of IE

@Mastertech: A better site would be Secunia Advisories if you wanted to make a point not that one. I doubt you've even tried the new Firefox becuase it IS faster than the latest Opera(which I still like better)

graffix

graffix reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

as much as i love a new firefox 2.0 i don't like the fact that tab browsing is similar to IE 7

i have used firefox for as long as i can remmy

i love using it as my default browser

now how the hell do i configure the same tab browsing like in 1.5?

why every time i want to open a new tab browse it jumps from currently active browser to empty tab?

i don't like that damn i am going back to 1.5

any help would be appreciated

thanks!

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

I wish they hadn't removed the option to always block third-party cookies from the options dialog, and that they'd add the option to always accept session cookies, but both are available via about:config, so I can't complain too loudly.

2.0 is considerably faster on both my machines than was 1.xx, and Firefox remains the best browser I've ever used, beating out IE, several IE front ends, and Opera.

For those who don't care for the new skin (theme), the old 1.5 theme has been ported to 2.0:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3479/

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

The best Firefox release yet, and now the Ad muncher extension, err Add-on, now works! The built-in spell checker is a nice added feature. The browsing speed is the best I have seen in any other version of Firefox or, for that matter, any other browser.

Dixon_Butz

Dixon_Butz reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

Absolute rubbish!

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

I have to agree with DeJa Vu.
There's a pretty good selection of browsers out there, easy to understand too.
Until the next big thing comes along.

db.

bello

bello reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

The best and first internet-browser in universe ! Always a few step ahead than others. Always fast and always smart! Throw away buggy IE7 for good ! Opera can't compare to Firefox as well!

xtool

xtool reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

BadIronTree, what do you mean by "Opera 9.10 beta rulzzz"? Can you please list out comparisons and differences? Or perhaps tell us if there are any bugs with Firefox v.2? This is a Beta testing and it does not help us nor Firefox team with your respond.

McAleck

McAleck reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

BadIronTree sucks

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

Opera 9.10 beta rulzzz

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

Firefox: Five Stars; Opera: Five Stars; IE7: Five Stars. Wonderful harvest of browsers!

NikMan

NikMan reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

it is really good browser. IE7 is faster bit it's GUI is crappy.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

The best

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 24, 2006

Why does Firefox's own homepage still say 1.5 is the current version? I guess I'll wait before downloading to be sure. FFox is great stuff. Not just free but stacks with all the addons your heart desires. All apps should work this way.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

"Reviewer: zridling Oct 23, 2006
Version: 2.0 Final

Is that screenshot doctored? LOL
Rating: "

What do you mean? It looks normal to me. I don't care! FF is still better than whatever else is out there. User made extensions makes FF top shelf for me, IMO; It's like driving a Pinto verses a Bugatti Veyron! Again, this is my opinion and my belief.

zridling

zridling reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Is that screenshot doctored? LOL (joking) about it's subject. Lighten up, dude.

landfish

landfish reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

it says Firefox 2.0 on the releases page
http://releases.mozilla....efox/releases/2.0/win32/

it usually only takes a few days for the extensions to catch up

Mirrebex

Mirrebex reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

WEIRD.. at firefox's homepage the current version is still 1.5 .. what's going on here?

firefox is great.. 2.0 still has a few issues with my extentions but it's still my number one browser.

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Firefox is absolutely amazing. Even though 2.0 just released, I'll probably start using the alpha releases of 3.0 pretty soon.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Great improvement to 1.5.x.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

http://weblogs.mozillazi...10/the_antirelease.html

Shame on betanews.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

About firefox v2 final

- It works slowest than v1.5
- Option to not allow "third party" cookies was removed from settings.
- If you want to remove it the uninstall leaves half of the program in your pc (dlls, registry keys...) even after reboot.

My advice,if you're user of v1.5 and you're happy with it don't update!!

I'll return to v1.5

OAKsider

OAKsider reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Greatest (open source) internet browser on the planet. Congrats to Mozilla and co. for Firefox 2.0 which succeeds in making that distinction even more clear. Fast, stable, ultra-customizable: no problems here and running better than ever. A must-have app for most computer users regardless of OS.

andrew_

andrew_ reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Egad. Again with the hype and lack of follow-through. Maybe they should take out a full page ad to attract some decent developers first.

As many others have stated... on a FRESH install of 2.0... CRASH BOOM. Down goes firefox. Down goes firefox. (harvey refrence there).

It crashed on startup.

IE - conistantly sucks
FF - inconsistantly sucks

Which is worse??

lilmegz

lilmegz reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Good browser but I dont see this being available on the official Firefox site yet :|

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

smooth as,
just needs some extensions to catch up

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

five stars to firefox. as five starst to IE7, as five stars to opera 9. they all are equally good, choose by your own preference.

punkesito

punkesito reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

unfixed bug http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/ffoxdie.html

Shadow Wing

Shadow Wing reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

This is easily the best web browser available. IE and Opera don't even come close. Fanboys/girls of the aforementioned programs ought to avoid rating this wonderful program if they cannot be objective.

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

It works. Not much more to be said. I can't see that this warrants the leap to version 2.0, and it won't persuade me to abandon Opera.

morganp

morganp reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

While Firefox has not seen many changes it is still a superb product which I choose to use over both IE and Opera. While IE7 and Opera are nice it is the lack of extensions for them that stop me wanting to use them. Firefox has such handy little extensions that enhance the web for me. From simple extensions like Slashdotter to complex ones like Greasemonkey and Stylish. Personally I do not care what I use, as long as it does the job. Life is too short to argue on the internet about what web browser is best :)

One small note ... If you are using RC3 then there is no need to upgrade as RC3 is Firefox 2.0 Final (as it should be in all good software development).

^M^

^M^ reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Nice improvements to the GUI, spell checking is great when you're a forum's rat.
Having a close button by tab is a bit deconcerting first, but you get used to it.

To bad conquery is broken, the project seems pretty much dead.

The_Zeroorez

The_Zeroorez reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Everyone who's crying about small, graphical things they don't like:

Firefox is there to be customized. Get skins/extensions to clean it all up, edit your toolbars through 'View', make some changes in the about:config, and edit your UserChrome.css.

If you want a browser that's nice out-of-the box, get Opera, if you want a nice browser, and feel like tweaking some things to your personal taste, get Firefox.

mfaccone

mfaccone reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Not being a Firefox fan... nor a IE fanboy.. I decided to give this version of firefox a try.
At first glance... I though it could be something I might like. But, as usual with my experiences with firefox.. it started crashing every time I opened a new tab. Uninstalled it... maybe will try again with Firefox 3.O next year. Until then.. its IE7 and Avant

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Great browser!

menting

menting reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

i like 2.0 much better than the 1.x series, because the 1.x series had a font issue for the zh-tw version i used, and the 2.0 didn't. However, the high memory usage (something that people complains a lot should not be listed as a "feature", or should at least have an option to disable it) is still a problem with 2.0 for me. any way to disable or alleviate it? thx

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Works great - brilliant browser. Feels a bit more like a version 1.6 than 2.0 though.

noBuddy

noBuddy reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

As I don´t like feeds, I deleted the Feeds tab, and the Get Started tab.
Now the web pages are jumping after loaded.
Empty Bookmark Toolbar causes this. So I disable Bookmark Toolbar, and all is okay.
Not so funny.

ranasrule

ranasrule reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

brilliant !!!

BioGirl

BioGirl reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

wOOt! ^__^

I have really been looking foward to this!

Firefox just keeps getting better with each new release. ^__^

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Love the new interface and the inline spell check. No problems with any of my addons. Loads fast. Great browser!

lazarus98

lazarus98 reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

zeeZee, Just a simple question, explain to me how you are able to open the tabs after closing. I don't get it... Maybe I'm thick... but I can't seem to get that to happen for me.
So far I do like FF it does seem smooth an alot lighter than IE. I still would like to be able to put ALL of the toolbars where I want however. It just could not be that hard to program into it

LordNikon

LordNikon reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

I have been waiting a long time for this and it was well worth the wait. It was awesome that most of my favorite add-ons were updating quickly. The add-ons I had to uninstall were redundant the functionally was incorporated into FF. :D :D

glenwood

glenwood reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Totally brilliant especially compared to IE7. Loads fast, excellent revisions of detail such as menus and apart from the fact that a few add-ons are lagging this release it is all that I expected and much more. No they don't pay me I'm just a long serving silver surfer who recognised a quality product. Well done Team Firefox.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

firefox 2 restores tabs in the exact same order when i closed the browser. ie7 does not. not good when i have 80 tabs always open in a perfect order. ie 7 has a history view tab refresh problem also. i need to change history tab view to a different view, and then switch back. when i do this it updates the history. sometimes it refreshes, sometimes it does not. ie 7 final crashed 10 minutes after installing it on a mint running system. firefox 2 has not crashed on me yet. i run "extensionless". this might make a difference. ie toolbar is poor. firefox has a great bookmark manager. great when you have 400 bookmarks. you can sort firefox bookmarks, in your own order, alphabetically ascending, alphabetically descending. ie7 does not have this either. when using ie7 i always have to scroll through their puny side menu.

maraskus

maraskus reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

yes , yes, yes DrTeeth, Firefox are not fast or fastest than Opera but....(maybe then speed are not the unique choice for select a browser) then webpage compatibility of Opera are not good until now. Firefox are too compatible with the most pages, and with plugins (maybe fasterfox) are brilliant

iamtux

iamtux reviewed v2.0 Final on Oct 23, 2006

Alright! 1st to comment on 2.0! I've been following 2.0 since it's beta and have loved it. Earlier today I thought this had been leaked because I was told it's release date was tomorrow. But behold, we have it a day early! Nice. FF just got better!

DrTeeth

DrTeeth reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 18, 2006

With v1.5 and earlier, all one had to do to get an extension to work was to unzip the XPI file and change the version number.

Maybe this will work for v2?

ernstblaauw

ernstblaauw reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 17, 2006

To use TabMixPlus with this new RC, just go to the website of the author and download the 'dev-buils'. Works pefectly fine here!
I like Firefox ebcause of the language correction and the possibilities to extend the browser. A great project!

trebor

trebor reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 17, 2006

Absolutely do not agree with previous opinions. Been on the Bon Echo 2.0 since RC1 and been auto-updating daily. This baby is screaming and most of the 'Add-On' as they're now to be called, work fine or have been bumped, or can be made to work using the Nightly Tester Tool add-in. Particular, TMP, Noscript, IETab, Tab Catalog, Stumbleupon (just a few of the 48 currently active) are very well behaved and integrated. Quite a few extensions could be dropped, to include spellcheck, as the one build in works great and uses multi lingual dictionaries from Thunderbird. A Must have for save and truthful and fast browsing.....rock-solid. (This is not a biased advert L&G)

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 17, 2006

This release doesn't deserve '2.0' name. It still has too many bugs which Mozilla developers ignore for years - yet they are already thinking about the features to be added to 3.0 release.

I give it only three marks.

HornyToad

HornyToad reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 17, 2006

Agree with wat0114 : some extensions I've come to depend on, such as TabMix Plus, don't work on this Release Candidate, and that's a pain. I wonder how come Mozilla doesn't enforce a rule of automatic conformity for those who develop top (as in, very popular) extensions ; that way, said developers would have to make compatibility with a new build a top priority. Plus, since the code has been in development for quite some time, I wonder how come those extensions are still not compatible with a version of Firefox that's bound to hit our PCs (and Macs) in just a few days.

There's gonna be some serious midnight-oil burning in the next few weeks... Aside from that, Firefox is still Firefox, fast, stable, with a nice look, touch and feel, but I still prefer Opera. To each his (her) own, as they say...

smanofsteel76

smanofsteel76 reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 17, 2006

Upgrading from RC2 to RC3 in Vista was a headache because it kept telling me I needed permission to update the files. Anyone understand this?

Shadow Wing

Shadow Wing reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Anyone rating this great program lower than a 4 should be banned from BetaNews. No one that remedial should be allowed to evaluate anything, ever. I can't believe people this stupid can even manage to operate a computer...

All Firefox has done is beat the snot out of IE and steal its lunch money. There's nothing better, no even close.

5/5 - no question

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Same problem here with some extensions not working, otherwise this is the fastest rendering speed I have seen in Firefox any version yet.

siryak

siryak reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Great browser. RC2 seemed to have a few freezing issues on me, but RC3 so far seems to be rock solid.

pyridox

pyridox reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Page rendering is much faster in Beta 2. Only small problem that I have with beta 2, is a couple of my themes & extension plug-ins don't work with this version yet.

BlackAle

BlackAle reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Excellent browser, highly customizable, fast and stable.

@lhdal

..er It's a browser, not an email client!

Browser12

Browser12 reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Great Browser. Still fastest out there. Allot faster than Opera or IE. Though not that many new features over 1.5.0.7 though.

hondaman

hondaman reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

YAY! Wish there was a changelog link somewhere.

lhdal

lhdal reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

This browser isn't fast.

I think it's became an urban legend that Firefox is fast.

But truth is Firefox isn't faster than some browsers.

Firefox uses more memory than those browsers.

Firefox is safe but it's because it doesn't provide some features at all. It's like if you don't have an e-mail you'll not receive spam, e-mail viruses and such, at all.

Since Firefox 1, there is no major improvement on any of those issues.

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

mjm: because it includes themes too.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0 RC3 on Oct 16, 2006

Like it a lot. Better certainly than the Vista RC's. :)

Why did they rename tools-->extensions to tools-->add-ons? This is confusing when dealing with multiple versions to support. They even still call it extensions within that menu selection...

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 10, 2006

Absolutely great browser, but the funny thing is, I'll probably have switched over to the alpha builds of Firefox 3 before Firefox 2 is even released.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 10, 2006

Lovin it. And all my favorite plugins seem to finally be bug free with FF2.

Flemens

Flemens reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 9, 2006

Very stable and lightning fast. I´ve been using K-meleon for while and this RC2 is as fast as K-meleon in rendering pages (at least in my machine) Many extensions has support for RC2 and those which doesn't is easily taken care of with Mr Tech local install (Tabbrowser extensions is the only one that doesn't seem to work exactly as in previously versions). For those who use Roboform there is a .xpi @ roboform for RC2 and it works great. Love the spell checker. Memory consumption seems to be as usual (~70-80MB after a couple of hours work) but that is no big concern for me nowadays.

The_Zeroorez

The_Zeroorez reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 6, 2006

Very good, even more stable than RC1 (don't know how the guy that was talking about 'crashed' overclocked his CPU.. :o )

Unfortunately the buttons in 'small' settings are still a bit wide, and have too much space around it. I hope the final (or next RC?) gets back the old buttons (RC1), or will be tweaked a bit more.

Pensador

Pensador reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 6, 2006

New search engine manager, spell checking, updated UI, better handling of RSS feeds, updated Add-ons manager, and more! This browser just gets better!

Treize

Treize reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 6, 2006

Kudos for the spell checker!:)

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0 RC2 on Oct 6, 2006

Very nice. I like the GUI changes, feels more responsive right off the bat. Subtle but metallic.

keisan12

keisan12 reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Oct 1, 2006

not bad,but slower than opera for window,
see for urself
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 27, 2006

They've made tons of progress with this lately, absolutely amazing browser.

Orbiting234:
Maybe you have some plugins causing problems. Which isn't uncommon when upgrading from an older version. All the computers I've used this on, it's absolutely rock solid.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

Love the new visual theme. The browser is now much faster, and has a much smaller memory footprint. Also this is more stable than any of the Firefox 1.x releas I've used, which is all but the last two or three releases, which were only security updates.

deadmonkey

deadmonkey reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

This is a nice, simple update. Nothing major is new, mainly nice UI tweaks and smoothing out some things which were not that polished in 1.5

Over all a great product. I don't use it because its "more secure" than IE, I use it because I like its features and UI more than IE (including IE7) and it has some brillient extensions such as Adblock, Mouse Gestures and Slashdotter. Firefox is not without its problems however I find using it much nicer than using IE. IE7 is a step in the right direction but Firefox still wins for me.

hondaman

hondaman reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

Slick. Simply awesome.

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

I cant got to any Mozilla sites......i use spybot search and destroy....do u think tht is the problem.....if so.....how can i fix it????

DaComboMan

DaComboMan reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

I'm trying the portable app and it is just great!

Thanks Mozilla Team!

The icons and appearance enhancements are just fine!

demetrisk

demetrisk reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

Icons have improved since 2.0 Beta 2, but are still anemic. The theme is also now better, but still plain.

Other than than, the browser is improved. However, if the Mozilla people don't care whether Fx looks good in Windows Classic, and if they are silly enough to pay "artists" to produce such icons, I cannot rate it higher than 3.

chronon

chronon reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

SCoooBY, I hope you didn't base your rating on that ridiculous article. Even the guy who used the automated tool says that he might be wrong about all this (at the end). I have been using Firefox's nightly with no problems, it is fast, customizable and it's free. Also there are lot's of coders behind improving it every day, not because they are being paid but because like to do it.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

SCoooBY,

Automated code-review tools have many many false positives. I take that report with a grain of salt.

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

Anybody have a change log link?

peterj1978

peterj1978 reviewed v2.0 RC1 on Sep 26, 2006

I've been using beta2 for about a month now without too much problems.

Also to the people talking about alot of exploits and such in the code, you do realize that the Firefox code is open for you to view and hence you will find more bugs than you ever will find in IE since that code is closed and not open for viewing.

qrst

qrst reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 19, 2006

"Mozilla produces patches for security vulnerabilities far more quickly than Redmond can manage" ;-)

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 16, 2006

Great browser. I give it 5 out of 5, hands down.

bsr500

bsr500 reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 15, 2006

It's the best and most secure browser (with extensions to add pretty much any feature you want in a browser).

Can't wait for 2.0 which releases in about a month or so (with RC releasing within a couple weeks).

jk-

jk- reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 15, 2006

Open source, constantly developed.. it really is the best browser. Combined with the extension NoScript, nothing is more secure.

azimov

azimov reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 15, 2006

Anyone looking for a bug fix or change log check http://www.mozilla.org/p...ies.html#firefox1.5.0.7

Other than that, still my main browser and so far, the only browser that can run from a USB memory device.

siryak

siryak reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Great product. Too the post below, even if those results were right(which their not) IE is still the main targeted browser. People don't target FF because there is less people using it. But FF is more secure I am sure. I have done my research. Many websites recommend FF and they have a reason for that. IT IS MORE SECURE THAN IE. It's going to take more than someones little blog post to change my mind. If it was less secure than IE it will be all over the web by now.

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Internet Explorer 6.x More Secure than Firefox 1.x in 2006

http://poptech.blogspot....x-more-secure-than.html

Firefox 1.x - 9 Advisories = 64 Vulnerabilities
Internet Explorer 6.x - 13 Advisories = 30 Vulnerabilities.

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

The greatest.
Any Change Log?

steven0451

steven0451 reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

In response to stevetures...

If you want real security then go with Opera, here are the statistics (from the same site the you used) on my favourite browser:

http://secunia.com/product/10615/?task=statistics

Now if you are goind to say they've had none because of how new version 9.x is....then look for 8.x or 7.x and you'll see that ALL the of vulnerabilities were no way near as insecure as MS or FF.

Firefox is indeed a flexible browser, and IE is indeed a fast loading browser, but Opera...I have to say (whether it's due to the lack of a spotlight in the hacker world, or just good programming) is the most secure browser I've come across.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

fixes:
- Crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.0.7)
- Popup-blocker cross-site scripting (XSS)
- Frame spoofing using document.open()
RSA Signature Forgery
- Concurrency-related vulnerability
- Auto-Update compromise through DNS and SSL spoofing
- JavaScript Regular Expression Heap Corruption

deadmonkey

deadmonkey reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

To be honest I only use Firefox because of adblock and mouse gestures. Opera is nice also but I prefer Firefox. Never have any problems with it and I love how I can backup my whole setup by just making a copy of my profile folder. If only IE were so easy to backup!

herbert7890

herbert7890 reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

i just love firefox, all about the themes, extensions, reliability, just plain wonderful, im using beta 2, and 1.5(to download the extensions and themes) then i use the nightly tester tool to enable those extensions on firefox 2 ) Internet Explorer is way too risky for the average user, just stick with the fox!!

stevetures

stevetures reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Maybe Microsoft is innovative, but anyone who's worked in IT knows why we need another browser. All the users that come in with spyware have been using Internet Explorer. Nuff said.

Microsoft security stats
http://secunia.com/produ...1/?task=statistics_2006

Firefox security stats
http://secunia.com/produ...7/?task=statistics_2006

The difference is subtle, but look for 'extremely' important holes, and whethere they allow system access.

Don't forget the average patch time for microsoft vs. firefox: 120 vs. 34 days.

the artist

the artist reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Im not a firefox fan but i'll be objective.
Firefox is such a good browser for the young it is... I mean, i don't like it the most but we MUST consider that it is only by V1.5 while others have years & years of polishing and development with their 7 beta (IE) and 9 (Opera) versions. Firefox is like the baby of the battlefield, and it is doing damn good for the young it is. We just have to let him grow up a bit. It's not that bad, just stop the hating.

@bekaye: you scared the hell out of me! when i started readin' i couldn belive it 'till it became suspicious 'n i got your point.

akbarus

akbarus reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

I still think Firefox is a good choice. I use it since the "Firebird age"... i think 0.5

The olny problem with this browser is the amount of memory used (sometimes it gets about 70 Mb).
But this isn't something new, since the browser had similar issues on earlier versions.

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

LOL... I haven't tried 1.5.0.7, but I'm sure it will be just as good as all the other versions of Firefox.. :-)

I've given a (4) due to the memory issues the browser still has, even in 2.0 Beta 2

bekaye

bekaye reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Things I don't like about firefox:

1. The endless ability to customize, it's just too confusing.

2. The fox logo. You only see the back of him. How dumb is that?

3. Tabbed browsing, if that were any good, Micro$oft would have stolen it and put it in Internet Explorer.

4. Multiple search engines on the toolbar, if that were any good, (see #3).

5. Constantly being updated. Programs can only be updated so many times, right?

6. Free addons. These sometimes break with (#5) updates. Then I have to wait days (or hours!) for these to be fixed. It's such a hassle to click that dang "find updates" button.

7. The support community, puleese!
a. They're always trying to figure out new ways to do new things with Firefox. That just can't be good.
b. They always go, "Rah Rah Firefox! Rah Rah Firefox!"
c. They're like that Avis ad "We try harder"

In short, why do we need another browser? Micro$oft is always so innovative when they have no competition, if we really needed a new browser, they would give us one.

(Special link for the humor impaired)
http://dictionary.refere...=satire&x=0&y=0

GoodThings2Life

GoodThings2Life reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

This is a minor point release for "security and stability" purposes... if you want major functionality changes, make the suggestions for 2.x or 3.x releases. Some of you really need to learn how to rate software objectively!

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Time for another extension run for the faithful. You know, unless you are a Microsoft hater, there is little reason to use Firefox.

Adblocking? Grow up, I see as few ads as you and do it with all apps, I use Ad Muncher.

Security? Well, FF releases its share of fixes.

Standards compliant? Um, all the sites I visit display just fine thanks.

Extensions? What do you 'extend' exactly? I see little that I don't already do with Maxthon. Opera is quite capable as well.

I see the apologists are here too. "On the roadmap" is where I find little towns, not features in software. Else, Vista is the best OS ever. It's on the roadmap...

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Dude, then you really haven't used Opera, have you? As for IE7, have you checked out Maxthon, or Avant, or NetCaptor? Maxthon brings ten times more customization to the browser than Firefox ever did, and oh, it doesn't break your extensions (which Mozilla still refuses to certify after how many years now?) with every .0.0.1 update. Even if you abhor Microsoft and/or IE, Opera has none of these problems but has the best W3C compliance of all.

As others have mentioned, it's time for Firefox to grow up; all their excuses are just tired.

computershack

computershack reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Feels a fair bit faster than 1.5.0.6. Only been using it for half an hour or so though but it certainly feels zippier.

hondaman

hondaman reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

I love it.

mmebane

mmebane reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

"This has nothing against the power of IE7 now :) or Opera."

Show me addons.ie7.com or addons.opera.com, plz. :P

No, Firefox isn't perfect, but it's endlessly customizeable.

roj

roj reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

Still no concerted effort to manage plugins via a unified interface so that there isn't a Lil' Abner approach with each plugin rolling its own interface? Still no effort to bunle commonly useful plugins like advanced tab control with the browser? Still breaking plugins with each new release? Stil...

As to the trite excuse that bugs are found in the IE code, bugs are found in ALL code. Also, when your product is used by 90% of the browser community, more bugs will be found than when your product is used by less than 5%. The Fanboiz tend to miss that oh-so-obvious fact.

The honeymoon is over gentlemen and you haven'tdelivered.

ONE star for a product that was always more hype than substance.

brusco

brusco reviewed v1.5.0.7 on Sep 14, 2006

@ ghammer

you asked "Extensions? What do you 'extend' exactly?"

go see for yourself
https://addons.mozilla.org

sirred2000

sirred2000 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Sep 11, 2006

It thing the fire has gone out for Firefox because it has alot of bugs and is a memory hog. Until this is fixed this file gets a real low rating .

SCoooBY

SCoooBY reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 8, 2006

http://www.theregister.c...bug_analysis/print.html

Just how buggy is Firefox?
By John Leyden
Published Friday 8th September 2006 10:14 GMT

Security researchers that carried out a code analysis of popular open source browser Firefox using automated tools, have discovered scores of potential defects and security vulnerabilities despite coming to the conclusion that the software was generally well written.

A former Mozilla developer has criticised the methodology of the analysis and said it provides little help in unearthing real security bugs.

Several versions of the software were put through their paces by Adam Harrsion of Klocwork using Klocwork's K7 analysis tool. The analysis, which culminated in an examination of Firefox version 1.5.0.6 unearthed 611 defects and 71 potential security bugs.

A large number of these flaws resulted from the code not checking for null after memory was allocated or reallocated. Memory management issues accounted for the next highest defect count (141 flaws). Failure to check the execution path of code also frequently cropped up as a potential error.

Firefox developers have been sent the analysis results, which Harrsion concedes is preliminary. "Only someone with in-depth knowledge and background of the Firefox code could judge the danger of a particular security vulnerability," he writes.

It's unclear how many, if any, of the potential defects identified by Klocwork's tool are exploitable, the most important consideration.

Neither Microsoft nor Opera have released proprietary code for their respective browsers for similar analysis, so no comparisons can be drawn.

Alec Fleet, a former developer on the Mozilla Project, said that running code analysis tools has some benefit, but he criticised Klocwork's conclusions as incomplete and potentially misleading.

"To claim that there are 611 known, specific, real defects is just wrong. With most of these tools the signal to noise ratio is very high," he writes.

"This is not to say there aren't 141 other legitimate memory management defects lurking, but it takes a deeper (human) understanding of the codebase, as well as testing of actual codepaths in use, to flush them out. To spend smart developers' time going over long reports of machine-generated lint would be a waste," Fleet adds.

Harrsion defended the quality of his analysis against these criticisms. "Although this analysis was automated, the level of analysis is more sophisticated then a traditional lint-type tool. In this particular analysis we reviewed the entire results to verify the correctness of the defects... [but] as with any analysis only the developers can be the final judge on the severity of these problems," he said.

SCoooBY

SCoooBY reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Sep 8, 2006

http://www.theregister.c...bug_analysis/print.html

Just how buggy is Firefox?
By John Leyden
Published Friday 8th September 2006 10:14 GMT

Security researchers that carried out a code analysis of popular open source browser Firefox using automated tools, have discovered scores of potential defects and security vulnerabilities despite coming to the conclusion that the software was generally well written.

A former Mozilla developer has criticised the methodology of the analysis and said it provides little help in unearthing real security bugs.

Several versions of the software were put through their paces by Adam Harrsion of Klocwork using Klocwork's K7 analysis tool. The analysis, which culminated in an examination of Firefox version 1.5.0.6 unearthed 611 defects and 71 potential security bugs.

A large number of these flaws resulted from the code not checking for null after memory was allocated or reallocated. Memory management issues accounted for the next highest defect count (141 flaws). Failure to check the execution path of code also frequently cropped up as a potential error.

Firefox developers have been sent the analysis results, which Harrsion concedes is preliminary. "Only someone with in-depth knowledge and background of the Firefox code could judge the danger of a particular security vulnerability," he writes.

It's unclear how many, if any, of the potential defects identified by Klocwork's tool are exploitable, the most important consideration.

Neither Microsoft nor Opera have released proprietary code for their respective browsers for similar analysis, so no comparisons can be drawn.

Alec Fleet, a former developer on the Mozilla Project, said that running code analysis tools has some benefit, but he criticised Klocwork's conclusions as incomplete and potentially misleading.

"To claim that there are 611 known, specific, real defects is just wrong. With most of these tools the signal to noise ratio is very high," he writes.

"This is not to say there aren't 141 other legitimate memory management defects lurking, but it takes a deeper (human) understanding of the codebase, as well as testing of actual codepaths in use, to flush them out. To spend smart developers' time going over long reports of machine-generated lint would be a waste," Fleet adds.

Harrsion defended the quality of his analysis against these criticisms. "Although this analysis was automated, the level of analysis is more sophisticated then a traditional lint-type tool. In this particular analysis we reviewed the entire results to verify the correctness of the defects... [but] as with any analysis only the developers can be the final judge on the severity of these problems," he said.

mcm

mcm reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2006

demetrisk - "The tabs and the tabs bar look hideous on Windows Classic. The Fx developers had promised to fix the ugly menus on Win Classic that were introduced on 1.5. Instead, they added to the ugliness."

The fix is coming with Firefox 3.0, you can follow this bug report for progress:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.../show_bug.cgi?id=243078

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 5, 2006

With the jump from Beta 1 to Beta 2 I went from being 'ok' with the changes to impressed. Firefox feels faster, the pages load faster and the phishing filter and spellcheck put it on par with IE7. Once it reaches release, it will be stable and reliable. I don't think you can ask for anything better. The apparently lack of features in Firefox 2 will give way to the new bookmarking system and other innovative features in FF3. Of course we have a little while to wait for that. So for now, cheers.

Ian C.

Ian C. reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 3, 2006

Much faster than all previous versions. Got some GUI problems upon initial install, but clearing my profile and reinstalling all my extensions fixed it up.

zridling

zridling reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 1, 2006

Well, I tried to find faults, but everything worked, and it was noticeably faster than 1.5.2. Just wish they had done something with UI similar to Maxthon 2.0, which is stunning and cool.

bellgamin

bellgamin reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Sep 1, 2006

Firefox just keeps getting better & better. It has become the standard by which all other browsers must be measured.

As to alleged memory leaks, they no longer exist. Some folks who have an internal problem within their computer like to blame it on software, whereas the problem lies in their own back yard.

If it weren't for Firefox, there would be no IE7.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Very slick - great browser (even though it's still in beta).

azimov

azimov reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

demetrisk, to turn the spell checker off, go to options advanced and you'll see it there.

What I like about firefox, is not all the security features, it's that it's the fact that it's a browser I can get to work how I want it and not how someone else says I should work with the browser.
Also, you can have FF on a USB memory device. very very useful of you travel a lot. Like I do.

belthurgp

belthurgp reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

After IE7 B3, I have completely moved away from Firefox. The biggest thing that made me move was the memory leak in 1.5.0.5 and .6. 10 mins of browsing and FF would eat up close to 100 mb. And with bare minimum extensions (Tab mix and mouse gestures).

Maxthon is doing fantastic job with 1.5 and 2.0 and coupled with IE7 engine, I don't think I will come this route again.

demetrisk

demetrisk reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

The tabs and the tabs bar look hideous on Windows Classic. The Fx developers had promised to fix the ugly menus on Win Classic that were introduced on 1.5. Instead, they added to the ugliness.

The close button on the tabs is a waste of space for me. I had already four ways to close tabs:

* Ctrl+W
* Middle click
* Context menu
* The x button on the right

And there is no option to remove them from the tabs. You have to do it through about:config. (Of course, middle click is not always available, so this will be useful for many people -- but, PLEASE, make it an option!)

Also, I can find no option to disable the spell checker globally. I do NOT want a spell checker!

Fx has been my default and favourite browser on Win since v. 0.6 -- and I find this version greatly improved in most respects. But I'll give it a rating of 1 for the above reasons.

Alex Stevens

Alex Stevens reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Eww, what did they do to the theme? It's hideous now. They had it just right in 1.x so why are they messing with it? Change for the sake of change is not always a good idea. Other than that it seems to work ok though.

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Very nice! Seems to run much faster than beta 1. The visual refresh is nice. Tabs are a little shorter in this version, only by a few pixels, but when you don't compare it side by side it seems like they're a lot smaller. only thing I don't like is the home button always looks like it's grayed out (disabled), and the the go button can't be removed from the address bar.

pjb:
Get Tab Mix Plus. It will enable all the features missing from 1.5, plus much much more.

Update: Turns out my GUI glitch is just caused by some extensions. Installed it on another computer and had a glitch where the address bar wouldn't work. Just gotta reset your profile and reinstall your extensions if you get any issues like this.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Like the song says, "Simply The Best, Better then all the rest!"

pjb

pjb reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

I would like to see the 'force links that open new windows to open in' option re-instated. I have found this a very good feature of 1.5 For the removal of this feature I have dropped one rating.

Edit: Thanks 'Don Juan' I have tired the programme you recomended. Seems ok, although I personally thing far to many options. Be nice just to see that force links re-instated, as do many of my other friends that use firefox. They are dissapointed this functionality has been removed from version 2 at the moment.

cloud23

cloud23 reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

basically they cleaned the bugs even though still looking for more bugs, opera and Microsoft is going to have a competition

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

I like it a lot. UI is clean and refreshed - its nice to get away from the tired default look. Pages seem to load faster and scroll much faster (Opera-like).

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

all my extensions, but 1, are intact. Have been using this Beta 2 from it's RC1 and RC2 days and have continued to browse without a hitch.

So far so good.

Perth, Australia

Perth, Australia reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

I do keep coming back to Firefox to see what improvements have been made and find there are a few, however like other FF still likes to use up memory even tho I have a Dual Core AMD 4200+ with 2GIG ram.
Going back to Opera. I do find FF is still friendlier for configuring search engines.

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

I downloaded this in response to seeing FF v1.5.x stealing huge amounts of my resources and being more and more aware that FF is slipping in speed and efficiency.

Wow. This is a huge improvement. I was expecting this milestone to be a series of bug fixes and to be focused on RSS, Tabs with X's (which I had an extension for) and fixing bookmarks.

The performance is notably improved, the new default skin is beautiful, compact, stylish -- just hands down great. And RSS now makes sense =) -- and whoah -- Firefox is underlining the word RSS as it's not in it's spell check. Now that's fantastic!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

""Visual Refresh: Firefox 2's theme and user interface have been updated to improve usability without altering the familiarity of the browsing experience""

hehe, I see marketers have invaded Mozilla corp?

I like this browser, use it for 95% of my work/play, but like the poster below with love for 1.0.7, I think Mozilla has a lot of work to do on it's extensions and compatibility during upgrades. 1.5 completely broke my browser and only through days of troubleshooting did I find it was because of a single extension. I won't upgrade that soon anymore.

hondaman

hondaman reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Im not a fan of the "x" close tab icons in each tab. I'm sure an extension will be made by someone to fix this.

I just upgraded from 1.5, and all but one of my 7 extensions still work.

Still the best browser by a mile.

Joe Dirt

Joe Dirt reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Firefox has just gotten progressivly worse since version 1.07.

1.07 was the best version ever.

Tene

Tene reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Under the hood, it's great, as per usual. The hood itself on the other hand has gone against the dev team's word that it would respect the user's native interface. Oh dear.

tmosdell

tmosdell reviewed v2.0 Beta 2 on Aug 31, 2006

Mozilla Firefox 2.0 is a rip off from Microsoft Internet Explorer 7. I must say that Microsoft has done it's homework for IE7. Firefox has been hacked so many times that it is not funny, now what do you say about security in firefox.

Zee333

Zee333 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 25, 2006

This software is crap.

I've just tried the latest IE7 and i think you should aswell, a lot better then Firefox.

This has nothing against the power of IE7 now :) or Opera.

Zee333

Zee333 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Aug 25, 2006

This software is crap.

I've just tried the latest IE7 and i think you should aswell, a lot better then Firefox.

ShiftedBlue

ShiftedBlue reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 22, 2006

Still the gold standard. I love how quickly the security updates are released (like this one), and the extensibility is unmatched, period. Most any feature or quirk of any other browser has a matching Firefox extension, and added to Firefox's inherent security, it's hard for me to use anything else. I love Avant 11, but Firefox is default.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Aug 14, 2006

awesome. running stock. no java. really fast. no extensions. lately firefox portable seems faster than the install version. hmmm.

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 12, 2006

a standard now

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 7, 2006

The best.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 6, 2006

ie 6 bone stock rules. firefox releases a new version when they find junk code. ie 6 releases security updates all the time. i guess its IE version 888.0

HurricaneGame

HurricaneGame reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 5, 2006

What can I say, it's Firefox!

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 3, 2006

If only the tabs worked as effectively as they do in Opera or Avant, would I rate Firefox a five. Other than that complaint, this is an awesome browser getting better all the time, and it just never fails that no matter how enamoured I am with others such as Opera or Avant, I always go back to Firefox. It exhibits terrific speed, low resource usage, solid rendering, adequate features and ever-improving stability. As far as the browser's security, based on a recent Secunia report http://secunia.com/product/4227/ only 9% (3) of the 34 vulnerabilities are unpatched, but they are deemed as "Less critical" in severity. It does seem as though Mozilla has done a fine job in this very important area of concern.

MarlinT

MarlinT reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 3, 2006

Another great release from Mozilla.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

Great browser.

landfish

landfish reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

no problem with any extensions here, works perfectly as one would expect from the Fox

JonathanDoe

JonathanDoe reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

@zridling
There's no problem at all with the code, what you probably downloaded and installed was the RC for 1.5.0.6 I could be wrong since I haven't downloaded and used it yet as I prefer to get my updates from the source(updating through Firefox itself or if you must, downloading the whole thing from mozilla.com)

As for the "certification program for extensions" that should be coming out in Firefox 2.

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

Oh crap, there go two of my extensions again. The coding is getting worse by the day. Jeez, and still no certification program for extensions. I give up.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

This app is like OSX, people thought both products had no security problems, or at least had the fewest security issues of their kind, but as the user count grew, the ammount of problems being discovered; whether debugging or security grew exponentially.

These newer security and stability problems have been highest on the priority list for the Mozilla foundation, while common errors that have been in Gecko since day 1 have yet to be resolved.

However, while not being as secure as Opera, it's certainly the best open-source browser out there because of it's compatibility. I can't say I can complain much about extentions because the last 3 builds of FF have worked seamlessly with extentions that haven't needed updates, I only use 4 extentions but that's not the issue.

X-Play gives Firefox a steroid-browsing-experience, a 4/5.

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

When they get around to making it official and releasing information as to what's new, I suppose this link will then work:
http://www.mozilla.com/f...x/releases/1.5.0.6.html

war593122

war593122 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

Original from:

http://mozilla.osuosl.or...irefox/releases/1.5.0.6/

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

I believe this is supposed to address the streaming media problems.

CyberDog

CyberDog reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

Still very disappointed on the fact that they'd rather add features to new releases than fix the code they already wrote. Poor performance, especially when extensions get involved. Oh, and it's not looking as secure as it did when it first start growing, huh? Imagine that...

@lokanetra: The comment toward MasterTech is idiotic. I don't care one way or another what he thinks, but people who don't like software have as much right to express their feelings as people who like it. That's the whole bloody point of rating things, to find out if something rates high or low. Otherwise they'd only have a "5" and everybody would click it. And I view FireFoxMyths as a valid argument on his part, it's a very good page, whether FF fanboys like it or not.

kmrdeva

kmrdeva reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

I'm using 2.0b1, btw, but if you need some kind of certainty, well, the latest 1.5.0.6 release is here..

http://releases.mozilla....irefox/releases/1.5.0.6/

5uck3rpunch

5uck3rpunch reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

I could be nuts but 1.5.0.6 seems to render webpages a lot faster than 1.5.0.5 on 2 of my PCs.

englishmen

englishmen reviewed v1.5.0.6 on Aug 2, 2006

How is it that fileforum are hosting 1.5.0.6 when there is no word of this release on Mozilla's site?

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

hahah, "Rookie feeling". Why? Because the back, forth, reload, stop, home buttons are aligned like a normal browser? Because it's 'slowwwww'? Oh boohoo, nobody cares that Opera can render a page .5 seconds faster. It's probably the stupidest selling of of Opera as it is.

Firefox 1.5 is great, and it deserves any high score it gets to at least level off from the Opera fanboys and their idiocy. (not referring to 'the artist')

the artist

the artist reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

as i say, this is grandma's browser... i'd stick to Opera (latest weeklies rock!), now that many website's rendering has been corrected for me.

it has a rookie feeling that i just can't swallow, but it is very good anyway, just not my taste.

lokanetra

lokanetra reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

MasterTech, if you don't like firefox then don't use it and you shouldn't be rating it. It appears you have given it a low rating based upon an external link spewing propaganda. I like using both browsers (IE+FF). The right tool for the right job. I'm sure many people use both browsers religiously... and you're the one posting an external link whereas the rest of us have merely commented on what we think of FF. Don't believe the hype - Public Enemy

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

Brilliant web browser.

johnk119

johnk119 reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

Great Highly customizable browser. At times it can be alittle slow loading.

doctorsmith

doctorsmith reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

Mastertech are you really such an imbecile, looking at that link you posted assures me you are.
As well as this great update you'll find that the next update for Thunderbird has just been released
http://releases.mozilla....ses/1.5.0.5/win32/en-US/

Mastertech

Mastertech reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 27, 2006

Wow, this just adds on to the over 100 vulnerabilities of this already insecure browser. Too bad this browser is too slow and not fully standards compliant. Oh yeah keep clicking in that built-in search box so Mozilla Corp can rake in the Millions:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

Looky, looky:

http://www.betanews.com/...ox_Extension/1153934797

What is that a Trojan Firefox Extension? Don't say I didn't warn you.

alexf153

alexf153 reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

I used to use Maxthon all the time. For well more than a year as a matter of fact. But with all the extensions that I use and better rendering of Firefox, I just can't see myself ever going back to IE. I have no need of it anymore. Except on IE only sites like windows update site. Working as a web developer, I can't work without Firefox and its extensions. IE7 does not impress me either.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

No issues upgrading.

landfish

landfish reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

The Fox rules !

MarlinT

MarlinT reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

Once again another great release from Mozilla. FireFox won't be losing its flame for quite a while.

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

Works perfectly. Very secure. 5 stars.

_ghammer : hahaha, Maxthon is a on-layer of IE, nothing more.

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

It's an ok browser for the "I hate MS crowd".
Personally I use IE via Maxthon.

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

1505 good so far. if you play yahoo games use java 131. yahoo games seems to prefer microsoft virtual machine. even java beta 6 snags in yahoo games, gonna be new crap. one thing for people reading this who might want to try firefox. you have to "build your own browser". "tab mix plus", makes it all worthwhile, along with "ie tab". very fast, very stable. starting to like it more and more. one thing i wish they had, the thing is maxthon, super drag and drop, where you just drag a link to a spot in the webpage, it will open a tab in the foreground or background, depending on your checkbox option. this browser is highly reccomended.

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

Firefox is fantastic.. and it just keeps getting better..

DonGato

DonGato reviewed v1.5.0.5 on Jul 26, 2006

A great browser. Loading speed with a full set of extensions might be a problem, but if you use it always as I do that is not a problem.

The thing I like most of it is that I could tailor it to my needs and likings, thing I couldn't with IE nor Opera.

I left IE two years ago after I grew tired of its problems and lack of customization. Tried Opera but didn't manage to like it.

I hope it keeps improving. :)

zeeZee

zeeZee reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jul 24, 2006

excellent browser. great extensions and themes. internet explorer is faster. firefox security leaks is just beginning. microsoft internet explorer, has deep pockets that fix them FASTER. the "secure browsing" for microsoft is just beginning. vista secure mode will be great. firefox can't use active x. comedycentral.com has a media player on the right side. firefox can't play it. need a "open in ie" tab. ie is a great basic get the job done browser. idiots can't keep it maintained well, then say microsoft is crap. ie 7 beta 3 is feeling good. opera is excellent too. same problems with firefox stated above. firefox is a great browser, and will be around a long time. i love every feature it has. it has great ergonomics. i give it 4 because it can't play comedycentral.com media player without needing a open in ie tab, via the extension. another huge snag. i play yahoo spades online 7 days a week. java 15007 snags when closing the browser. so does ie. so does opera. yahoo games seems to love microsoft virtual machine. java 140 is the last release that does not snag and hang the browser when closing yahoo games. you can get it at oldversion.com. since i play yahoo games daily, i use ie and microsoft virtual machine. oh, i run win xp pro xp retail. my machine is maintained superbly. not an infected limewire nimbesol.

TGB72

TGB72 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jul 22, 2006

Nice browser but it consume to much memory (more than 40MB for moments) compared with other browsers like Opera. I hope that developers can fix this in next versions.
Options for handling tabs and customizing toolbars are very pour, need an improvement there.
Most of the extensions are totally useless except for Scrapbook, the most usefull tool I ever saw in a browser.

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 18, 2006

2.0? Why the hell? I thought this was supposed to be a big deal. Looking at the changes, this should be called 1.5.0.5 :P nah maybe 1.6

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 15, 2006

Crashes oh, about every other click.
Doesn't matter if it is a URL or simply Import, Tools, etc.

IE 7b3 on the other hand works quite nicely here.

After you uninstall, it asks if you want to tell them why. The URL can't be found. Nice touch, I like attention to detail...

yanike

yanike reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 15, 2006

Decent, nothing new. I think the only advantage Firefox had over IE was tabs. Every new feature I see now is a rip from IE or other browsers. Firefox is losing it's way.

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 14, 2006

I see few more features introduced that were copied from competetive browsers. Too bad they don't work nearly as good.
On performance front, nothing new unfortunately. I guess FireFox team has other priorities which would be ok if the damn thing didnt hog every spare byte of RAM on my computer to render text!!!

even IE7 BETA is better than this.

IsoNick

IsoNick reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 14, 2006

Have crashed a few times already. And then again, not that many new things. Why not just call it 1.6?

sasesi

sasesi reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jul 14, 2006

I like Firefox. Very much. Ihave been using Firefox now almost 2 years. I tried Opera, but i dont liked it. Whithout when i change it in Prefences, it shows old internet-page. Some pages dont works exellent. But if i tried to use Opera, i still go back to the Firefox. Firefox is fast, and enough secure... Its the best. I cant wait when 2.0 released =)

Hewz

Hewz reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 14, 2006

Crashes on startup...

war593122

war593122 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 13, 2006

Best browser just got better! ;)

I'm just waiting to see what the final build is going to be like vs IE 7. Though I think if some of the rumors about IE 8 turn out to be true then Opera and FF is going to loose a lot of users. I for one be sticking with IE on Vista until FF/Opera supports Protected Mode.

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 13, 2006

I'm not reviewing, but I'd like to ask a question about the beta.

Are there extensions available? Themes too?

I like FF and it's my main Internet Squeeze. I'd hate to go through all the riggamaroll and have just the barebones.
Savvy?
Thanks for Reading
db.

sanderg

sanderg reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 13, 2006

kooshini, make sure to *delete* the program directory before installing it. Your profile is stored in a different location and will not be deleted.
For any extensions use the 'nightly tester tools' extension which will be able to make most of them compatible.
Works like a charm!

kooshini

kooshini reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 13, 2006

I'm using bon echo alpha atm,

i have installed v2.0b1 and i get the following on 3 different systems

http://cloud-developments.com/firefox20beta1.JPG

????

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 13, 2006

It crashed everytime I tried to run it.

Apparently the FF devs messed something up, causing conflicts with Ad Muncher, among other things.

FF 1.5 still works fine, however.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 13, 2006

Absolutely Brilliant!

oc-athlonxp.com

oc-athlonxp.com reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

So far I like what I see. Excellent release candidate. I can't wait for the final release! Seems alot faster than FF 1.5.0.4

HurricaneGame

HurricaneGame reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

Better & Better...

Sabz

Sabz reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

this browser rawwwkkkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz , IMO just keeps getting better an better

linkdup

linkdup reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

JonathanDoe...

http://www.mozilla.org/p...s/bonecho/all-beta.html

JonathanDoe

JonathanDoe reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

So I'm guessing this build BetaNews posted is the RC3 before the actual Beta 1 build is done. Since the final Beta 1 is scheduled for release tomorrow.
http://wiki.mozilla.org/...atusMeetings/2006-07-11

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

For those who don't know, an early Alpha (a 'Trunk Build,' really) of Firefox 3.0 is out as well:

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minefield/

statm1

statm1 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

Does Mozilla forget theres such thing as UI and UX? Because they certainly seem like they had the UI designed back when the Firefox started and said we are going to keep this design forever.. We are never going to change it.

In my opinion every major version, i.e. 1.0,2.0,3.0..should have a new UI. At least change SOMETHING besides the little dinky search box.

benZin

benZin reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

yeah, the portable is great. On Digg.com 3/4 days ago.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

1.5 final caused so many issues with me I no longer consider FF beta or alpha releases worthwhile. Before features address the messes that still exist with regards to extension versus firefox compatibility.

john84

john84 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

I am using the portable version so that I don't screw up my normal profile:

http://tech.cybernetnews...table-firefox-20-beta-1/

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

Firefox crashes from HTML code on sites? Only thing thats ever crashed FF for me is poorly coded or incompatible extensions, and I've been using Bon Echo since alpha 1.

DarkMana

DarkMana reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

"Firefox _STILL_ crashes on some sites with bad html: http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=293066

Why can't they ever fix these bugs?!?"

Well for starters, don't write crappy HTML. Problem solved.

Tutsumi

Tutsumi reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

I like this build alot and I'm glad to see that these extentions were built in.

As for it crashing on http://img.kamrat.com/test/fluber.htm
Not even my 1.5.0.4 version crashed there. It froze up a bit but opened up the site within 2 minutes.

"This is just a RC for Beta 1 set for later this week.
http://www.mozillazine.o...back.html?article=10874 "
Bull, it was set for today.

kmrdeva

kmrdeva reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

I think I found the actual beta 1 release here - http://ftp.mozilla.org/p.../firefox/releases/2.0b1/ .

dreadlox

dreadlox reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

Firefox _STILL_ crashes on some sites with bad html: http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=293066

Why can't they ever fix these bugs?!?

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

Nice new features, the spell check and the new Add-ons dialog GUI especially.

Now just gotta wait for extension authors to get their butts in gear. X_x

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v2.0 Beta 1 on Jul 12, 2006

Have had 0 problems with beta 1 and my noscript works already. I'm looking forward to interface tweaks in the next beta but so far i'm impressed with the speed and features of this build (anti-phising filter is sweet).

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on Jul 11, 2006

Crashes? been running alpha 3 since released and hasn't crashed yet. I too am glad to see some of the ideas put forth in extensions being incorporated into firefox. Have had a few rendering issues but as for loading firefox can't say i've had any problems. The only other problems I've had are with a couple of extensions and a few themes but that's the makers fault for lagging behind. You fanboys (IE, Opera, and Firefox alike) make me sick. You are al so blinded by your hatred or love for one browser or another that you don't take the time to actually test anything.

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on Jul 10, 2006

Stooopppp you bloody fanboys. Every one of these reviews mentioning sticking to Opera. I find the rendering comments cute you hyprocrites. I'm going to review the ACTUAL SOFTWARE now. Crazy idea huh?

Yep it has glitches and crashed. Weird...feels like an APLHA release! Good to see they've started to incorporate new technologies into this build - ie anti-phishing tech. Browser is shaping up nicely.

WoBiDi

WoBiDi reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 28, 2006

Putting an extensions loaded version of Firefox up against MSIE makes it almost impossible for Firefox to win. There are countless add-ons available for MSIE that make it nearly limitless in its add-ons.

Also Firefox still has those horrible rendering problems and the useless extensions are annoying. I personally use Yahoo! Widgets on my Windows computers and the build in widgets in OS X 10.4 on my Apple Powerbook G4. Not only are they useless in Firefox but not necessary. I think extensions support was an attempt to compete with the addon support in MSIE, but was not well implemented.

Firefox still can't be considered as a primary browser... not even secundary...

Love from sinedinsidan2006.

ciwir

ciwir reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 8, 2006

Good browser but IMHO Opera is beter and it has everything what you need out of the box

yanike

yanike reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 6, 2006

Best Firefox Ever! I've gained much respect for Firefox with this release. All my webpages load extremely fast and fine, even the ones I use with IE. All my plugins work excellent and no crashes :) Firefox is definitely my default browser. Now, I'm just gonna wait and see what Microsoft does this summer with the latest IE7 beta release.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 3, 2006

Still has that annoying propensity of crashing when, say, my firewall kicks in prompting me for a rule on FF before allowing it network access. Other than that, it's seems pretty rock-solid with page loading speed just about on par with that of Avant and Maxthon.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Great product.

womfalcs7

womfalcs7 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Firefox is great. I updated it this morning.

Ulmo

Ulmo reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Freedom (extend, modify) + Easy + Stable + Complete

zee7

zee7 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Changelog:

MFSA 2006-43 Privilege escalation using addSelectionListener
MFSA 2006-42 Web site XSS using BOM on UTF-8 pages
MFSA 2006-41 File stealing by changing input type (variant)
MFSA 2006-39 "View Image" local resource linking (Windows)
MFSA 2006-38 Buffer overflow in crypto.signText()
MFSA 2006-37 Remote compromise via content-defined setter on object prototypes
MFSA 2006-36 PLUGINSPAGE privileged JavaScript execution 2
MFSA 2006-35 Privilege escalation through XUL persist
MFSA 2006-34 XSS viewing javascript: frames or images from context menu
MFSA 2006-33 HTTP response smuggling
MFSA 2006-32 Fixes for crashes with potential memory corruption
MFSA 2006-31 EvalInSandbox escape (Proxy Autoconfig, Greasemonkey)

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

hmmm, I wonder what this upgrade breaks :) ? 2 out of 20 extensions, average failure rate

JonathanDoe

JonathanDoe reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Release Notes:
*Improvements to product stability
*Several security fixes
http://www.mozilla.org/p...ies.html#firefox1.5.0.4

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Best web client ever.

joeshmoe7

joeshmoe7 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 2, 2006

Glad to see another update :)
Long live FF

coover

coover reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Don Juan ...

Just because you've moved on to 2.0 Alpha DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE ALL THE SECURITY FIXES. Alpha releases are unfinished software. It is called an Alpha because it is not even close to being ready for release. It is an Alpha release because the developers are trying something experimental and they don't know what will happen. It is an Alpha release because it probably has some very bad security problems. It is an alpha release because it may endanger your computer. What don't you understand about the use of the word "alpha" when it is applied to software. Do yourself and your computer a favor and go back to 1.5.0.4. And don't use 2.0 until it is (at least) a "Beta" release. Beta releases may crash your machine, but they (probably) won't do any harm.

hondaman

hondaman reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

The extension capabilites alone make this browser rise above the rest.

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Well it's just a security release, but seeing as how I've already moved on 2.0 alpha I hopefully already have the security fixes.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Nope, it's official.

Check out releases:
http://releases.mozilla....la.org/firefox/releases/
Don't be a moron and rate it 1 EVEN IF it's a nightly build, still a great browser.

I just hope Mozilla foundation will take their time with Firefox 2.0 Bon Echo, and fix some of the problems I can list that Gecko has had for 5 years, and resolve all current problems; especially security; where Opera shines over this. If Opera rendered as well as this, I'd give this a lesser rating, but this is what I use.

Danny7

Danny7 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

@eric467
If it's not official then what it's doin in the "releases" folder?
So check before assuming something.
This IS a final release.

BTW
5 stars for a great browser.

forgie

forgie reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

works great and didn't break any of my 7 installed extensions.

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

always on top

eric467

eric467 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

This is just another "nightly" trunk release, it's not official. So if you want all of your extensions broken, go ahead and try it out... otherwise wait for an official release.

***Edited***

Good to see it's official, I've just seen too many websites like Majorgeeks, Download.com, & BetaNews jump all over unfinished nightly releases as if they were mandatory. Unfortunately a lot of people won't check for themselves, and may end up screwing things up for themselves.

Automatic updater works fine too, coming from V.1.5.0.3 to V.1.5.0.4.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Best Browser!

9i08

9i08 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

As usual I am very happy with the Firefox, just wish there was widgets like in Opera. :(

I agree with the "Old reliable" comment also, because of course, one browser may fail in one area where the other works, and so in addition to great browsing capabilities, Firefox is like having an extra life ring on the ship.

Also you may keep an eye on this page for changes perhaps they will be noted sometime soon

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases

BioGirl

BioGirl reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Been looking foward to this. ^__^

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Old reliable.

new_jamie

new_jamie reviewed v1.5.0.4 on Jun 1, 2006

Works OK - what's new?

Stephen Bungert

Stephen Bungert reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 30, 2006

In the words of Del-Boy: "bonnet de douche. Bon Echo? bon jour more like. mange tout.

Blitzkrieg

Blitzkrieg reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 30, 2006

Doesn't feel fresh for a major version release and still plagued with the unnatural feeling that items were an after thought (tabbed interface). Loading FireFox is still a nightmare. I'm still sticking with Opera as the #1 browser. The only thing FireFox has going for it is the extentions, but I can do everything I need for a browser in Opera right out of the box.

hazlema

hazlema reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 30, 2006

Firefox has gone from being a solid browser with few problems to a browser with nothing but problems. I use firefox all the time and can tell you that it constently crashes and locks up.

I had hoped firefox would be able to take the steam out of IE, but that is looking less and less likely.

necommunications

necommunications reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 30, 2006

Really not a fan at the moment. Same rendering problems as 1.X and problems using it through the ISA Firewall Client.

Also bad habit of stealing extensions for other programs withough asking the user is still present.

I will keep reccomending Opera as an alternative browser for my clients for the time being.

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 30, 2006

seems no faster, and even using mr tech local install, it disabled 16 out of my 20 extensions

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

b0mmel...my god, what a pathetic attempt at pimping IE7. "Let it die", that is something you say about ICQ or...ahem IE. IE7 is a pathetic (and ugly) attempt at emulating Firefox. Firefox is only GROWING and its not even that old, that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on here by a non-opera user.

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

Love this version of Firefox. Usually you expect alpha versions of software to be really buggy, but this is rock solid, only in alpha because it hasn't yet reached a feature lock. Has lots of great features, most of which came from the Google toolbar, although some came from other plugins. Also it seems about 90% of the Firefox 1.5.x plugins work with this with no problem. It's memory usage isn't any better yet unfortunately, but it does seem to run much faster.

Belial666

Belial666 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

Very good software,but I'm testing the latest nightly build,and it's already at version 3.0a1.Maybe 2.0a1 is a typo.I still use IE6,also,so I'm not a total convert yet.

It's here,if you want to test it:
http://mozilla.isc.org/p...ox/nightly/latest-trunk/

Sabz

Sabz reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

>Disappointed for the most part. I have tried alpha 2 and haven't seen the alpha 3 features but i'm well aware that this is merely a 'feature' release and not a retooling of the gecko engine. That would be fine and dandy of they actually had innovative features other than playing catchup to Internet Explorer 7 and Opera 9.<

playing catchup to IE7 an opera9? LOL never laughed as hard as i am today. Opera9 has the worst uninstaller an doesnt work correctly all the time IE7 ..nothing new or exciting sbout it, just another wasted Update from M$$. Opera9 on the other hand is just full of useless crap like unwanted widgets that people dont need in a browser,

jon8rfc

jon8rfc reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 29, 2006

After using Firefox at work, I decided to give it a try on my own system. I never thought I would be able to switch from IE since I've become so comfortable with it, but I've fully switched after using Firefox for about 3 weeks.

The main thing that attracted me is the tabbed-browsing. IE7 went kaput on me, just like Office 2007, so IE7 is not an option.

I found a theme (which I never thought I would seek out) that feels great. I also found two GREAT extensions for tab modification: "Tab Mix Plus" and "Colorful Tabs". The first has a boatload of customization options, and the second allows me to fade tabs that aren't in use which makes the foreground tab much more prominent.

I have officially switched teams for browsing, and I had sworn to IE for so long. Tabs got me interested; usability and extensions got me hooked.

b0mmel

b0mmel reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

FF looks like an old program, feels like an old program and stems from a time when there was a need for an alternative to IE. After surfing with IE7 for a while, I felt compassion when I saw how the new FF looks and feels. FF is to IE7 what OpenOffice is to Office 2007.

2 points from me for the sake of the old times.

Let it die guys...

guti

guti reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

When an official Win64 version?

nms04

nms04 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

better than alpha2, but still worse than opera9 beta2!

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

eclipsingdivinity, firstly Firefox came out with RSS support quite a while before IE. Secondly, I'd have it a at a bet that most home users wouldn't install plugins. Therefor there is nothing wrong with Firefox working on providing useful features that a lot of people might not otherwise use. Finally, there's nothing wrong with taken on features that have been popular in other browsers (exactly what IE 7 did by taking on tabbed browsing and RSS support).

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

AlanS2001:

Yes, IE never started RSS, but since IE 7.0 had integrated it into their browser it seems like Firefox has sought to 'also' make subscribing just as easy. It's not copying per say, but more like a scramble to compete with Internet Explorer. If Internet Explorer 7.0 never existed would Mozilla have done same thing? That I don't know, but it feels as if they're taking a page out of Internet Explorer's game plan.

Secondly you point out that most people don't install extensions, which is correct. But since when did Firefox try to cater to "the mob" as i'd like to put it? Well now that they're piling in cash from Google and numerous donations of course. I always thought the initial goal of Firefox was to make a lean, fast browser that was safe and secure and left it's numerous possibilities to the extension developers?

It's really a matter of personal feelings, and it's all just opinion. One thing is certain is if they keep duplicating releases like 2.0, what will be the point of extensions and how will extension developers compete? Might as well have it be a commercial program.

-----------------------------------------------
Disappointed for the most part. I have tried alpha 2 and haven't seen the alpha 3 features but i'm well aware that this is merely a 'feature' release and not a retooling of the gecko engine. That would be fine and dandy of they actually had innovative features other than playing catchup to Internet Explorer 7 and Opera 9.

There are a few things wrong with Mozilla's direction at the current moment. One is that they're spending too long working on features that extensions have done a fine job on. See: Tab Mix Plus, Netcraft Anti-Phishing. Or they are working on features that IE 7.0 managed to dish out awhile ago. Example, their adding and removing engines and antiphishing and improving RSS.

I don't mind these built in features they are doing, but Bon Echo is losing perspective on what Mozilla is all about. Bon Echo is a walking contradiction in terms of browsing. Mozilla isn't innovating, and they aren't improving the gecko base. They are implementing features from popular extensions to appeal to the general public out of the box. Mozilla wasn't about market share when it first started.

I love Firefox, but Bon Echo isn't going to be Mozilla's most memorable release.

coover

coover reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

As long as this is an Alpha release, I shall not use it and I recommend that others not use it.

However, since I really haven't seen it, I shall not down rate it, as my instinct tells me that it will be a 5 when actually released.

LimeBreath

LimeBreath reviewed v2.0 Alpha 3 on May 29, 2006

As others have said, for an alpha, this is very stable. Use Nightly Tester Tools or MR Tech's Local Install to make most incompatible extensions work. The spell checker worked nicely while typing this.

kl00

kl00 reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 28, 2006

I had been a big fan of Mozilla products for quite a while (never really crazy about Thunderbird, though), and I really liked Fx 1.0. But it seems that Firefox development has been in a retrograde movement ever since. Fx 1.5.x is really a memory hog for a browser that was always billed as being "lean and mean". It has a bloated feel to it even in its stripped-down, "out-of-the-box" mode. Rendering is fine, just as in all Gecko-based browsers, but I hope that the memory issues will be straightened out by version 2. In the meantime, I'll be using Opera and keeping an eye on Orca.

charlezz

charlezz reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 18, 2006

Alpha 2 seems to be a very stable release, I've been running it for a few days now. It doesn't have a lot new features compared to Firefox 1.5 but it looks way more polished and has a better feel. I can use 99% of my extensions using the Mr. Tech plug-in. Can't wait to see the final release!

butthead

butthead reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 15, 2006

Blackhole8746, you lost interest and are commenting an alpha release of firefox. moron :D Very stable for an alpha, new features are nicely implemented. Interface is also more polished than 1.5. Looking forward to final release.

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 15, 2006

After getting IE7 Beta 2, although still a bit buggy, I lost all interest in other browsers.

knuckles

knuckles reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 15, 2006

An improvement over the 1.5 versions. It seems to be less resource hungry and I also think this is a very stable alpha build. Though it isn't like revolutionary features are being added to this to the 2.0 version of firefox. I hope some of my favorite extensions become compatible soon. I enjoy the additional features and think this release will be effective in combating the future release of IE7. I'm no Firefox fanatic but I do feel that Microsoft would have done nothing to truly improve IE if it wasn't for firefox. It is only through competition that products truly thrive. I hope firefoxes share of the browser market increases and in turn improves it self and IE.

damndj

damndj reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 15, 2006

It appears the memory issue is fixed. I've had it open for a few hours now and I've been running WoW as well. It's using 30 megs of ram, rather than 300 which Firefox usually ends up taking..

Plus it has spell check in message forms! What's not to love?

Had some crashes; mostly when media player is running in a webpage. Other than that, seems very stable.

maraskus

maraskus reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 14, 2006

Friends, let's not discuss any more: so much It Opera as FireFox there are good both, everything what not are Microsoft, in browsers, is in the habit of being good, Firefox and Opera have different philosophies that it serves to users' different striping, this way that complement each other, do not compete, both are good, sure and free, what more we can ask?

stopbuggingme

stopbuggingme reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 14, 2006

Use Opera or IE.
Both are faster to start and to display the web pages and consume less CPU than firefox.
Also both of them don't come together with noisy, fanatic supporters.

womfalcs7

womfalcs7 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 14, 2006

It's very good for an alpha release, very stable. I don't recommend it as your main version of Firefox to use (as said before, stick to 1.5), but you could download it on a separate drive just to play around with.

I'm loving the in-line spell check and the new extensions/themes UI.

There is an alpha 3 and it will be released on May 26th and that will be feature complete. If everything goes to plan, Firefox 2.0 is going to be released in late August.

midnighter_9999

midnighter_9999 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 14, 2006

when is it coming ie: Mozilla Firefox 2 ????

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 14, 2006

quite,ok,still a long-way to go...stick to 1.5!

felixml

felixml reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 14, 2006

not bad, does not crash as much and as often as other Firefox/Mozilla products, at least so far.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

Anyone who thinks that Opera is faster than Firefox has obviously never used Firefox. Opera is rediculously slow, horrible at rendering and dead ugly.

Opera...the name says it all. A BORING ANNOYING ARTFORM ENJOYED BY A SMALL GROUP OF A-HOLES.

Terumo

Terumo reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

Jeg holder meg til Opera.

slushdot

slushdot reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

The memory usage has been decreased dramatically, before it was like 100mb with about 3 tabs open for about an hour, now it's more like 65mb under the same load.

Perth, Australia

Perth, Australia reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

finally thank you Makaveli213 reviewer... you have summed it up.

opera is way faster :)

Makaveli213

Makaveli213 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

@eclipsingdivinity-
"And finally to the memory squabbling. WHO CARES! Yep, that about sums it up. Who really cares? Do you know who cares? People with computers made in the 2001 and Opera fanboys.That's who cares. Welcome to 2006, we NOW have the ability to buy PC's with a gig of ram :-). I'm sure 50 megs isn't going to ravage your PC performance."

Okay now who are the fanboys here? Firefox now has teh IEDestroyer, Firefox Flicks among other things. How many times have you heard Opera "Fanboys" come out with a IE Destroyer? Or films about thier browser?

Yes i am a avid Opera user. But i also have used Firefox. Back when it was 0.7 and even before. I used it up till 1.5. Now i use Opera. Why? Cause Opera is better. For MY purpose. Not everyone has the same purpose with browsers.

Also Opera does all this by default. No extensions.

So as far as the review of Firefox 2 Alpha 2 goes. More of the same. If you have used Firefox before prepare for more of the same. Not much has changed. Still doesnt pass the Acid 2 test.

Master-

Master- reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

The Best gets better!

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v2.0 Alpha 2 on May 13, 2006

I'll second mshnayde...so far........

qrst

qrst reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 10, 2006

In my everyday browsing, it's more stable, extensable, and functional than any other browser (and yes, I know them very well, including Opera). Plus, it's has very user-friendly interface - important for beginners. I regularly use many browsers (with all their advanced features), but this one has been my favourite for a long time.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 3, 2006

1.5.o.4 is the last build. Still Opera is better!

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 3, 2006

Wow, the auto update actually works in 1.5.0.2. Nice quick hastle free update to the new version.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Great product!

ezh

ezh reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Can't wait for 2.0.

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Opera: 5
Firefox: 4

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Updated with no problems. 1.5.0.3 is the latest release also, ignore the guy below who thinks he has 1.5.0.4.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

As the Mozilla Organization forgo's the development of Bon Echo, with a new rendering engine and such, the primary focus of this browser is forgotten.

The primary focus was to provide a flexible, stable, fast and very secure platform, and THEN move on to product innovations. There are numerous bugs in Firefox, even with this release. There are several security fixes that remain ignored, bugzilla reports remain ignored, yet they felt good enough to jump straight from 1.07 to 1.5, with much left untouched. There are gecko problems from Mozilla over 2 years ago that have yet to be solved; with as big as the Mozilla Corporation is, and continues to grow, they could take bugzilla more seriously. While this has grown to be the most used open-source application in history, under the hood it's among the most problematic.

While I use Firefox daily, I am skeptical about any updates. They should pause the release of 2.0 until the holiday season, and stop releasing these products and consider them "final builds" without several hundred hours of environment testing like Opera does. Opera may not render as well, but it's sure stable.

I thank the user below for mentioning Orca browser, by the developers of Avant browser, it's a Gecko based browser which has left me dropping K-Meleon altogether as another Gecko-based browser. Very fast, slightly large in download size, but it's a very early project and a very complete browser.

http://fileforum.betanew...ca_Browser/1128532815/1

betabetabeta

betabetabeta reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

I like the Gecko engine...but the UI is really not great. I know it supports extensions et all but wait till Orca is released. Its in its beta now:

http://fileforum.betanew...ca_Browser/1128532815/1

BTW: My current #1 is OPERA !!!!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

No issues.

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Nope no typo. I'm running v1.5.0.4 right now.

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Tuf: Please keep YOUR fanatisim out of this non-fanatical rating system.

PCBill: That would seem to be a typo on Softpedia, then.

Firefox is my favorite browser, and it has forever changed the way I surf the internet. We have timely security updates for an already more secure browser than the alternative, an extension model that allows for infinitely expandable functionality that neither of the other two top alternatives has even tried to touch. 5/5

pcbill

pcbill reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Same Here,,,,My version says 1.5.0.4 and seems to work great.

PCBill

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

It works, and fine !

Floske Tuf

Floske Tuf reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

@The MAZZTer
I have never been a fanatic ! Everybody uses whatever he likes.
The FF fanatics (look around on the web how they behave wrt IE) made me become a little itchy !

Normaly I am not doing this kind of things.

But since the FF fanatics use every single occasion to kill/destroy IE, I am going to do it too.

Here you are : a 1
I couldn't get any lower.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

Here We Go Again! My default browser with Opera in second place!

Perth, Australia

Perth, Australia reviewed v1.5.0.3 on May 2, 2006

it might be a useful browser for those who want a browser and thats it..

i'll stick with opera beta 9+ as i like my voice activated menu and its super fast rendering/displaying sessions.

9i08

9i08 reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 26, 2006

Well as casual user like me, u will find this is probably useful browser to add to the collection, the cookie management is exellent, I feel Opera's can be a bit confusing sometimes, but works nevertheless. The toolbars and buttons are extremely customizeable, and clear icons make it easy to navigate which is important for me.

As for security well theres only so much a browser can withstand. Security patches for the windows are crucial, and believe me it's not gonna safeguard u from hackers and exploits if you run barebones(no service pack for windows, no security updates).I've been there and even the most common spyware slipped past the anti-spyware net. Opera seems faster, on my computer. Mem use is a little high, with one or two tabs open sometimes, compared to other browsers on the same sites.

Also, the Options menu of Firefox is the best I ever used on a browser.

Vampmon

Vampmon reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 25, 2006

It's a good brower, i used it as my main brower for a few months, but since IE 7-Beta has been released i've changed over, i don't like the feel of this brower, it's a good browser, but you must remember it has just as many flaws and security issues as any other browser so don't just switch from IE to tis because you think you'll be safe, you won't.
I'd also advise you to give IE7-Beta a try if you'd like.

bggoth

bggoth reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 25, 2006

Nice browser.. brings back memories ;)
It's better than IE6!..I'm not that sure for IE7 & Opera, though, since they're currently in beta...
Anyway, it's done good to have a competition between the browsers.

s.h.a.r.p.

s.h.a.r.p. reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 24, 2006

"oh my god, it's not the browser i use, so it's gotta be a 1-star!!!"

it does everything i want it to and probably more. with the right extensions, it's hard not to like it. there is always the occasional problem with flash or some crap like java, but i've had 'the occasional problem' with every browser i've used. i've been very pleased with the pop-up blocking and the speed it enough for me. it's my browser of choice.

plings

plings reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 22, 2006

With love from Browser12...

Jordanr05

Jordanr05 reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 21, 2006

Don't listen to the Opera fanboys below, this browser is amazing. Be sure to download Adblock and NoScript for a truly secure browsing experience.

Update 1.5.0.2 installed seamlessly and without a hitch. The new auto update feature is extremely efficient.

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 18, 2006

Always excellent. Awesome.

Packerz1

Packerz1 reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 17, 2006

A lot safer than Microsoft. RSS, tabbed browsing, search bar, themes, extensions. Isn't it funny that IE 7 tries to copy what firefox/mozilla has been doig for years. Try Thunderbird for an awesome e-mail client. http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 14, 2006

I'll have to give this release a very low rating because it's given me more problems than solutions.
Application integration just got worse. Before it was just Media Player Classic and VideoLAN. In this release Sun Java too is fcked up. Sorry Mozilla crew. You just have to improve and release a better version soon!

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 14, 2006

there's no problem with either extension or themes...
nowadays,all extensions and themes are made for upto firefox-1.6a
So,there wont be problem and thus no loss of your favourite extensions with this upgrade...

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Blaxima: Last I checked Portable FF leaves a single plugins.xxx file somewhere in Docs & Settings on any computer you start it on. Aside from that, it leaves a reg key to tell another PFF.exe not to launch Firefox a second time, but that should be deleted upon Firefox exit.

The slow start speed is grosely over exaggerated. I've found Firefox to be quite a quick starting browser - right on par with Maxthon. No comment on Opera though. :)

All adobe products start horribly slow - and what's up with Adobe Reader's 6 minute installer!? I think some setting is bugged up on my computer, because their Feed Optimizer keeps calling wait() over and over! :P

And actually, the same program and version only takes a half-minute to install on XP, and hangs indefinitely on 98SE, so I think they check your OS version and call wait() for a number of minutes depending on how old your OS is. :D

Right, Firefox - didn't notice any changes in start speed, but security fixes are always good.

Skizelli

Skizelli reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

@Blaxima:

Nobody's rebelling. IE/Maxthon is simply a piece of crap and is behind in web standards. As a web designer, I'd like to be able to use CSS2 and such. You do know that Maxthon is based on the IE kernel, don't you?

1) What software is perfect? If they were perfect, software versions would not exist.

2) That's because most web sites are still based on IE's standards. It's not Firefox's fault. And besides that, have you ever heard of IE Tab? Apparently not.

3) It's still safer than IE/Maxthon.

4) I'll agree with you here. There are some memory issues.

5) It's fast for me. Sounds like something on your end.

6) See above.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Absolutely brilliant and keeps on getting better. Go Firefox!

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

I had been disappointed w/ FF lately-- but they've seemed to turn things around.

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

I still cant believe how blinded by rebellion people are(or what they think is rebelling) with this piece of software.

1) Just like with Apple, Firefox is no knight in shining armour with its HIGHLY intrusive tactics. When I think of "portable software" I think of something I stick on a usb and take with me not leaving a trace on the system I just used. Well not with FF portable! Just like this exe version it installs folders where it wants and not just where I TELL IT TO. Which means in the portable version that you leave files on the system that isn't yours. For this version it means when you do a uninstall you still have to do some searching to remove it completely.

2) Still can only load 80% of webpages correctly
3) Safer?!?!? is that what you think? why because it uses a gecko engine instead of IE? Well MAXTHON has the ability to use both! Besides look at the changes, it says " several security fixes". Now why would that be if its as safe as fanboys say?
4) bigger and bigger memory hog with each release
5) Slow...now I really can't stress slow enough....sloooooooooooooow
6) My Photoshop CS2 loads faster than this!

Only good thing in my mind is the community(some) that create alot of good plugins and skins.

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Seems a good bit faster than 1.5.0.1.

You can go to 'Tools' -> 'Check for Updates...' then the built in updater will go for it. It probably only auto checks for updates like once a week.

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Installed perfectly over version 1.5.0.1
Two extension incompatibilities:
- Content Disposition 0.3
- AI Roboform 6.6.6, which refused to run even after having been reinstalled with MR Tech Local Install. Roboform for Firefox is strictly limited at this time to Fx 1.5.0.1

I'll have to wait a few more days ;)

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

SO MUCH FUN! WHEE!

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

It's on TechSpot too.

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Some thing's fishy here. This is not on the mozilla site......nor is it available through the updates function in Firefox.

niti

niti reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

One word : PERFECT

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

No problems with my extensions!

bello

bello reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

The very best browser in universe ! i've been using it for 2 years now and it's getting better and better in every new version. excellent extensions, plug-ins and themes make you browsing very smart, fast and comfortable.

Joe Dirt

Joe Dirt reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Yummy in my tummy.

Works fine and so do all my extensions.

Hopefully this fixes the constant crashing on certain sites.

ZonkSJx

ZonkSJx reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Do you all notice that the build reads

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2

Notice the 20060308 - Is this the latest release, or maybe the most stable i guess?

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Mmmm, think I will wait until a more 'must-have' release comes along. I have a LOT more than 4 extensions running and I just can't bear to go through all that again just for a few stability fixes.

the 'auto-update' notification says that this version WILL break some of my extensions!

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

None of my four extensions were broken by this upgrade. It was quick and completely trouble-free.

irdepesca572

irdepesca572 reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Great browser!

http://www.squarefree.co...e/releases/1.5.0.2.html
has a complete changelog. Also, submitted a digg story: http://digg.com/software/Firefox_1.5.0.2_Released_

chronon

chronon reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Did not break any of my extensions (customize google, mouse gesture, downTHEMall, linkification, add bookmark here and IETab).

FlipmodeBG

FlipmodeBG reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Waiting for the automatic update...

pc.pain

pc.pain reviewed v1.5.0.2 on Apr 13, 2006

Great browser. However, there is a small problem; these little incremental updates often break extensions. While I understand that updates for security are needed, maybe they should do something about making sure that themes and extensions aren't broken by every update.

AdenCloud

AdenCloud reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Apr 7, 2006

Good because of all the great extensions out there, but I prefer Flock. Flock can use almost all of Firefox's extension with Flock'd (google it)

mshnayde

mshnayde reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 27, 2006

Well,
It seems that Mr. Tech's extension works like a charm and all of the extensions I need work beautifully.
Stable, no crashes in over a week.
Great rendering of pages.
and the biggest plus it's less of a memory hog.
Love it.

kmrdeva

kmrdeva reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 24, 2006

Guys, you can force most of the 'incompatible' FF extensions to load up and work in Bon Echo - go check out the one extension that will enable this.

http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/

In fact, I've been running Bon Echo happily for about a week now, with about 10 extensions loaded in. So far, among the extensions I really need, only 'Tabs Mix Plus' doesn't work well in Bon Echo (for now).

All this coming from a former Opera8 user. :)

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

Generally speaking, it is not Firefox's fault that extensions don't work. For instance, Mozilla claims that it isn't doing any "under the hood" tweaks to 2.0 meaning that extension author's don't need to worry about any additional code tweaks they need to input into their program; but rather it's the simple fact they haven't altered that small line of code in the installation file that says it's compatible with 2.0. While there are exceptions, you don't need to whine consistently about the extensions issue. I repeat, IT IS NOT MOZILLA'S FAULT.

And to the fellow below me, you don't need to be such an Opera wh0re. One thing I can't stand is people who test Firefox in hopes that they can review it just to claim how Oprah (shall I call it that) is so much more robust. Voice activated browing is lame. It'll be the day when i'm screaming 'Opera OPEN!' in front of my family members. oooo! "THAT IS LIKE SO AWESOME! I WISH I COULD TALK TO MY BROWSER!" Not really.

And finally to the memory squabbling. WHO CARES! Yep, that about sums it up. Who really cares? Do you know who cares? People with computers made in the 2001 and Opera fanboys.That's who cares. Welcome to 2006, we NOW have the ability to buy PC's with a gig of ram :-). I'm sure 50 megs isn't going to ravage your PC performance.

Besides my ranting, this alpha did not blow me away like Deer Park, and i'm disappointed that they didn't even get half of their 'new features' completed. I was expecting a new 'interface' design too. I guess I just have to wait.

Finally, if it crashes. Please don't go on a tirade. It's an alpha, Mozilla WANTS you to report crashes so they can improve the product. Get a life.

Perth, Australia

Perth, Australia reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

it works well... of course the extensions aren't compatible as this is a beta version however its still memory hungry, as mentioned by ward574.

i have opera beta 9 with 7 tabbed windows open with 67k being allocated/used, whereas with this version of firefox i have only 3 tabbed windows opened and its allocated/using 64k.

i can report i have had no crashes. for me its back to opera for me for now :^) with voice-activated screens

husky87

husky87 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

not bad for an alpha!

all those complaining, use the stable build or report the bugs, b****ing here doesnt help

Ward574

Ward574 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

Extensions don't work. Again. Why is it so difficult to have a separate versioning system for subcomponents of the browser? Extensions should work unless there are changes to the extension model that'll not fail gracefully.

And the memory leaks are still there. Its slow and bulky without any extensions.

pyridox

pyridox reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

Well, this is "alpha", so it has bugs! I can't get it to run on one of my machines, crashes after it starts up. I even tried uninstalling & deleting the old profile. It installed on my other machine ok, and seems to run fine though.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

Eh, this thing doesn't seem to work at all! And why does it mess with my other Firefox installation?

plings

plings reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

This crashes on startup and disables all my FF extensions :(

biplab

biplab reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 23, 2006

The best browser with more features. I don't understand why people rated it lower.

Among the new features, redesign of tabs made it cooler. Also the browser is faster than earlier version.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

of course it's faster. it removes all extensions

wheel4hummer

wheel4hummer reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

I don't see why other people rated it so low, its an ALPHA! It was excellent. It's nice how you can close individual tabs eaisier.

majikuf

majikuf reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Is there a 64-bit release of this yet? I have the deer park 64-bit release and it is great, but I'd like to keep up to date.

cltx99

cltx99 reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Very good for an alpha. Comes up quickly on the screen and page rendering is fairly fast too. I'm looking forward to future developments. In the meantime, I'll stick with Seamonkey.

guti

guti reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Best open source browser.
Average free one (Get Opera!).
What's the point about managing bookmarks using SQLite?

alanpalmer

alanpalmer reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Works quite well for me, but I don't see what qualifies it as an upgrade to v. 2.0 from 1.5. The changes don't appear to add anything; they are in the way FF handles certain areas, not adding any real functionality. However, since it's free, I suppose they are welcome to call it whatever version number they like!

CyberDog

CyberDog reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

I have to agree with DaCash. They should be improving the code they already have, not adding more code. Anybody who doesn't think FF has issues, go surf the bugzilla for awhile. They have bugs dating back several YEARS that they ignore while implementing obscure new features instead. What happened to leaving features as extensions and focusing on the core browser?

engelbdo

engelbdo reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Cant find anything wrong with this browser! Defenitely one of the best and more compatible alternatives out there! AND ... its free! Beggers cant be choosers! Sometimes i think people expect to much of a change! It is still Firefox! Love your work Mozilla! And its great to see the improvements and development of this product still flourishing!
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nant`

nant` reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

BadIronTree,

You mean weekly release, build 8303.
It is more up to date than the previously released technology preview 2 (not beta yet as well).

I'm not giving this release a low rating nor a high rating, as it still has some road to make.

Nice, though.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Don't deserv my 5 stars.. But either does it deserv 1 star from you noobs who mention other browsers instead of actually testing this build or people who writes "What is the feature of FF 2.0? Lack of compatibility with most of them." .. read the roadmap - and you would be so much more interesting to listen to.. Sorry this is just as irrevant as the past posts' from others so hope staff will clean up for junk here..

Thanks mozilla for this tool which will be the greatest in the future!

pjlasl

pjlasl reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

quite giving this low ratings just because its buggy or unstable...its a alpha 1 for crying out loud.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

Buuuuuugy, but the changes are substantial, and a new gecko implemented helps with the rendering.

I've reported some less-obvious bugs and gave thanks to the dev team.

Rerverting back to 1.5.1

yokozuna

yokozuna reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

What is the advantage of FF, so emphasized by every FF user (not to say essential for this browser)? The system of plugins.

What is the feature of FF 2.0? Lack of compatibility with most of them.

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

It's not a beta dude. It's an Alpha 1 release. Therefore it's not even close to being feature complete. Have some patience.

DaCash

DaCash reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

I've been FF user and tester for a long time, and IMHO this is one of the least exciting betas...
Instead of optimizing speed and code, introducing acid2 test passing, x64 and jpeg2000 support, and FIXING old bugs, developers concentrate their work on some strange "Places", which will inevitably cause new bugs. May be someday it will get 5 again.

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v2.0 Alpha 1 on Mar 22, 2006

not all changes implemented yet. very bugy and unstable.

danielshimizu

danielshimizu reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 20, 2006

New Version Firefox 2.0 Alpha
http://ftp.mozilla.org/p.../latest-mozilla1.8-l10n/

ogman

ogman reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 20, 2006

Yeah, it's easy to tell when the competition is getting to the IE folks. No wonder they code so bad, they're too busy bashing better browsers on sites like this.

pc.pain

pc.pain reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 20, 2006

Ignore the lying softies and try it for yourself. By far the best browser around.

Skyfrog

Skyfrog reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 13, 2006

I used Firefox for two years and loved it, but I uninstalled it today and will probably never use it again. What was once a fast stable browser has now turned into a buggy crashfest. The ad people have found a way to get around it's popup blocker now and certain scripts bring it down every time. I lost an eBay auction because the stupid thing crashed on me. Enough is enough, it's off my system for good.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 10, 2006

Lets be honest! firefox which i think was its best with version 1.0.7~
After it,ff 1.5 isn't really at its best....it really hogs mewmory,certain pages while loading makes ff hang my pc,while it does nothing with ie...
the extension work only with most current build,half of it dont work when new build is released....
development has been way slow....both mozilla suite and ff have been around for yrs and still have managed to come up with features which were already present in opera and ie clones....
And sorry! ff is no more the most secure browser around there have been so many bugs since 1.0.2 and there are more which will be fixed in 1.5.0.2...
Whereas i haven't heard opera getting any security scares in years...
also,host of popular websites still prescribe using ie even after sky-rocketing success of firefox...
unfortunately! firefox deserves only 2.7 or 3 in my case....i would love 2 see version 2 being better than 1.5!

womfalcs7

womfalcs7 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 7, 2006

-Studies have shown that Firefox is better at evading spyware/virus threats with its enhanced "under the hood" security.
-Extensions...They make your browser awesome. There are extensions that:
*let you make PC to PC calls for free.
*up to the minute weather along with a radar image.
*Allow you to faster download files.
*Further secure your browser.
*Further customize your browser's UI and enhance the already included features.
*Allow you to organize yourself with calendars.
*and a ton of other things that you can browse through at http://addons.mozilla.com

- Themes... You can change your Firefox's default UI completely into personal feels, they're skins.
-Faster
-Customizable in a million ways..besides the ones listed above, you can go onto about:config and customize the settings to your need.
-It's open-source...patches and update roll out faster and more often than IE.
-Gecko, the rendering engine Firefox uses is the best all-around.
-Bookmark (called favorites in IE) management is easy and enjoyable with F

DaveBG

DaveBG reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 4, 2006

Nothing can make me use this bloatetd crap again.
Slow, lots of ram usage, ugly, bloated, does not open all pages correctly...

ss_dpt5

ss_dpt5 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 4, 2006

This version works nice for me

mich098

mich098 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Mar 1, 2006

no thx

Blaxima

Blaxima reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 20, 2006

What a memory pig. I tried it once awhile back and should have learned my lesson then. Greatly over hyped browser that is slow, a hog, unstable and I never like programs that take it upon themselves to add folders in places other than where I say. Still doesn't even load 100% of the pages out there!

Maxthon is the best and has been for years now. Best of all it comes in a zip version.

FF=sh8
0 starz

kl00

kl00 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 17, 2006

This is a step back from v.1.0 for sure. Too much of a memory hog, slow and crash-prone. I'm using SeaMonkey now (or again, rather) and I'm more than happy with it so far. We can only hope that Mozilla will make some changes quickly, because there is really a lot to love about Firefox.

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 13, 2006

Evere since i upgraded i have been having loads of crashes . Anyone have a problem with this version ?

phamductri

phamductri reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 11, 2006

I've been using Firefox since its .5 release. I have to admit that it has gone a long way. However, the Mozilla team should have rethought their approach of extensions. Everytime a new extension is installed, the memory usage of Firefox keep skyrocketing. I have several extensions installed, and the memory and CPU usage has gone so high that I have to abandone it for my laptop use, which has 256 MB memory. Firefox with extensions functions well only in a machine with 512 MB and up memory.

Besides, the extensions are not well integrated into the browser, some of them are in conflicts with each other. Some of them are so useful that I really wonder why the Mozilla team did not intergrate those features into Firefox, which I think they should have done long ago.

Besides, Firefox also has a serious problem of opening tabs. The more tabs you open, the more memory it consummes (it consummes a lot of memory on my machine, Opera doesn't have this problem).

Firefox still has many technical issues that need resolved. In the mean time, I've switched to Opera 9.

Wirpo

Wirpo reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 11, 2006

Argh, when will they fix the memory leaks?! :(((

DJ-HP

DJ-HP reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 10, 2006

It's brilliant now and it just keeps getting better

Yogurth

Yogurth reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 8, 2006

Unfortunately developers dont have time to really fix Firefox even after several Years of development, FF is still hogging down computers with excessive memory usage, it still isnt releasing memory when tabs are close or the app is minimised.

If this wasnt Open Source project, it would fail miserably, but OSS hype is keeping it alive, along with extensions developers which are doing really good job on improving FF vastly limited capabilities.

Sad as it iss it seems that those memory leaks are unfixable, until FF changes to a completely rewritten core planned for v3, till then I'm with Opera.

stisev

stisev reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 8, 2006

Where the hell did these idiot reviewers pop out of?

Dunderheads.

plings

plings reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 7, 2006

Oh dear. According to sophist_dreams Firefox has spyware! I don't like that. And it eats up memory (because of the spyware?)!

sophist_dreams reckons that Maxthon is the browser of choice, and I kind of agree there after trying it.

And the extensions don't work.

Sorry, but you'll have to try better, Mozilla :-(

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 6, 2006

Is Firefox better than IE? Thanks to the wide-range of extensions and the fact that it's not a big exploit target - definitely. Otherwise, -1 star for driving me batty with its persistant startup bugs and memory leaks.

CyberHobo

CyberHobo reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 4, 2006

Hello Vern... Still has the good ol' memory leak... Can't this be solved by it's developers?

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 3, 2006

This is not a contentious update. Just one click on the 'Make All Compatible' button, courtesy of the Nightly Tester Tools extension and the ONE out of MANY extensions that came up as incompatible (Google Toolbar)came up to speed.

That said, this browser will never take on the world until its rapacious and buggy memory handling is sorted out. It's a problem I put up with because a)the browser is worth it along with my favourite extensions and b)there is an extension which addresses the problem.

DeadFly

DeadFly reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 3, 2006

Only two out of 20ish extensions were disabled (Aardvark and Clip to OneNote) but they're not really maintained. I know a lot of people got hooked on Opera after getting fed up with IE years before Firefox was around... I think this debate over which browser is better is pointless. They all have vulnerabilities from time to time. If you want more absolute security, use Lynx. :)

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

I'm reminded why I went to Opera.

Firefox still has many issues!

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Great! Had to modify maxversion on a few extensions, no biggy... *****

IsoNick

IsoNick reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Absolute fabulous. After the release of FireFox 1.5 my copy IE have almost been obsolete. IE is only used for surfing some awful coded sites.

retroK

retroK reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Always happy to see a new version. Still the best browser on earth IMHO.

iamtux

iamtux reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Always happy to see stability updates and security fixes. I'm most happy about the memory leak fixes though, for a time, that kept me from using FF totally. I'd have a few tabs open, walk away, come back and try to restore FF and it would bug out on me. Hasn't been doing that lately. I've been using FF since it was Firebird 0.7 and have been a loyal fan since then. Keep it up guys!

benZin

benZin reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

The best browser. Plugins all compatable :)

R0bin|-|ood

R0bin|-|ood reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

WOW! updated in less than a minute made all my extensions compatable.... wow great job FF team

pjlasl

pjlasl reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Love firefox...and the update/install worked like a charm...love the fact that i didn't have to download over 4m to get the latest version

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

boy that mr tech local install makes updating a breeze, thanks for the heads-up :)5 for the smoothness of the install/upgrade of the browser too

foxtyke

foxtyke reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Firefox 1.5.0.1 is a very welcomed update for me as whenever I utilized 1.5 in my normal browsing session (tabs are my friend) that memory bug would creep in and just start clogging up the system.

With 1.5.0.1, I've yet to see that memory bug reappear and to top that, all of my extensions worked without a need to wait for updates to them.

I give 1.5.0.1 a 5 out of 5!

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Firefox has set in motion a chain of events which are improving the quality of ALL web broswers!

slepax

slepax reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Amazingly fast. Always!

Flemens

Flemens reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

I guess this can not be said enough many times:

It is not Firefox fault that extensions doesnt work with new versions - It is the _author_ of the _extension_ that decides on which versions of FF his extension should work. You can easily bypass this limitation with Mr Tech Local install extension or Nightly tester tools extension. I guess the author of the extension restricts the versions it works on because he wont know if the new version of FF is compatible with his extension. So please stop moaning about it

I might add that it has never happend to me that any of my 40+ extensions has not worked when I enabled them via Mr techs local install extension.

*edit* btw the roboform staff has been really quick and released a updated extension. Impressed I am!

xyzcb1

xyzcb1 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

I love firefox, but for some freaking reason it always broke some extensions everytime there is a update. it just probably design flaws.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Also, to adrian79, the functionality provided in firefox is subpar and offers nowhere near what roboform does. Obviously, since there is an extension, someone else felt so. So your comment is null and void, or as you would say, "LOL"

fwet

fwet reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Zoroaster

Download this and Roboform will work.
Nightly Tester Tools
http://users.blueprintit...id/nightly-0.7.9.11.xpi

Xilon

Xilon reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Great peice of software but the Auto-Updater isn't very automatic. It did not detect a new version of Firefox until I "Checked for updates". It would also be a nice feature if Firefox notified of extension updates since I just looked at the list (after not doing so for a long time) because the updater said that an extension won't work with the new version, and I had about 6 extensions with updates!

Dwiebelhaus

Dwiebelhaus reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 2, 2006

Perfect

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Great process for auto-update. Except if a user isn't an admin, what happens? Mozilla needs much better documentation for us IT admins that rely on this browser.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

guy below... roboform? what is that... firefox has a builtin thingie that saves passwords/usernames dude.... lol

Zoroaster

Zoroaster reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Increased stability and security. Great.
On 30 extensions, only one appeared incompatible: Roboform. Guess I'll have to get back on some copy/paste for passwords until updated Roboform adapter comes out.
First impression: Fx smoother than ever. Could be my imagination: love is blind ;)

EDIT: I wish to thank fwet for his Nightly Tester Tools' extension: http://users.blueprintit...id/nightly-0.7.9.11.xpi

After having installed it, I installed Roboform with no difficulty, and Roboform works perfectly!.

fwet, I don't know who's the little genius, but he or she does exist. Bravo!

HyipMaster.info

HyipMaster.info reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

I like to use FF since he can run certain site smothly, better than Opera. But the feature that i lost in FF is image control( on/off ) by tab not global like Opera did. I want a button to active/disactive it like opera. If this could be done by FF. Than FF is my best browser. Now i'm using FF & Opera together, since both have their own special features.

WhiteZero

WhiteZero reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Awesome update.
Didnt break any of my 5 extensions.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Time to change my once favourable opinion on this browser. What on earth happened to Firefox? Like Zankur, so many web pages just get stuck trying to load, causing me to hit the stop button followed by a reload just to get it to take. Since Opera breaks numerous pages, I have to go back to using IE or Maxthon for the time being.

medlir

medlir reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

horsecharles: Perhaps you shouldn't be using beta and alpha releases anyway if you don't understand version numbering and naming schemes, and believe your ignorance is a good reason to use another browser. Maxthon, while being my favorite IE-based browser, has leaked GDI handles like a sieve ever since the name was changed from MyIE2.

Meanwhile, Firefox 1.5.0.1 update was smooth and fast using the updater in 1.5 on multiple machines. Small issue with one extension and the theme I use not having proper maxVersion values, but those are the fault of the extension and theme-writer respectively, and easily fixed. Otherwise, no issues, and running great.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Great browser! It just keeps on getting better. Highly recommended.

ballyhairs

ballyhairs reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

WOW!!!
Thats more like it.

Mystiqq

Mystiqq reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Its great but as usual i have to wait until the extensions get "refitted" to this release. Until then im stuck, still, with my version 1.0.7.

...but the extensions are worth it.

ribslayer

ribslayer reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Mozilla Firefox is the KING OF BROWSERS!

kise

kise reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Ok. Fixed memory leak, that's about time.
but all of the EXTENSIONS i got are leaking memory. TO BAD LATEST ADBLOCK .42 BUILD LEAKS. Adblock is my only reason for keeping FF. I think i am going to program "Fiddler Adblock" for my IE. Firefox Developers needs to create a FRAMEWORK for managing Extension development for solving extensions the Memory Leak problems. ok.

niti

niti reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

It is the only and best browser that I use.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

All these different versions and releases are beginning to tick me off-- plus the way they're numbered makes no sense whatsoever. I had FF 1.5 release candidate1 of preview2 of beta1 that i left for deer park alpha release candidate preview 1.6.1.2.a.b.... and of course there's regular mozilla 1.719574940.... sea monkey... ff 2 and 3 are being discussed........ And don't even mention the EEEEXXXXTTTEEEENNNNNSSSSIIIIOOOONNNNNSSSSSSS!!!!!!
nor the plugin situation............. Opera & Maxthon here i come!!!!!!!!

Shadowtech

Shadowtech reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

All hail the mighty Firefox!

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

All extension authors who conformed to the standard of setting their extension to be compatible with 1.5.0.* will work with this release. Only Firefox releases like 1.5.1 are designed to break extensions because of some changes that could affect them.

jsc315

jsc315 reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Some nice fixes and everything seems to be working fine. The only problem i seem to be having is when i start up firefox it takes like a min. to start up. i wasn't having this problem with 1.5. It could just be me though. Update: Well, since i restarted my PC Firefox starts up faster than ever.

No Beer For You

No Beer For You reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

I was starting to get a bit worried when the last minor update disable 3 of my extensions.
I knew exactly how to fix them, they were all easy to fix (for me), but how many less-knowledgeable people didn't know how to fix them? How many users are lost due to these kinds of issues?
It's not neccessarily Mozilla's fault but someone needs to take in the extra responsibility of ensuring extensions are fixed - even for small updates like these.
3/15 of my extensions failing is definitely an issue. Mozilla Update needs to recruit people to do a brief compatability check then, if needed, update the single installation file that causes some extensions to fail on minor upgrades.

By the way, a developer simply extending the FF version number that the extension is compatible with, may cause other problems like failing extensions after FF upgrades so that's not neccessarily a 100% solution.
So long as nothing is being done, Firefox IS losing out.

chronon

chronon reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Some nice bug fixes. All my extensions are working fine, just installed and start to surfing...

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

I though FF1.5 was supposed to introduce patching. I had to do a complete download to update. I gave it a 4 because of that part of it failed to work as it should have.

However, I must say that memory usage dropped quite a bit with this release.

jspratjr

jspratjr reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Though I prefer Opera, Firefox is outstanding as well.

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5.0.1 on Feb 1, 2006

Finally, they dealed with the buffer overload program crash issue, new gecko which fixed all the rendering issues I reported(which wasn't much).

We're talking about sites that wont render on Opera properly, and that browser has been in development for well over a decade. Basically, this browser is ahead of it's time, the progress they are making is astounding.

This is what I call a REAL BROWSER. Kudos to The Mozilla foundation for providing a rock-solid browsing platform, and best of luck to them in the future, I see nothing but good things coming from this project. It goes to prove that Mozilla can make a better browser beta than M$ ever could.

This renders faster than anything else with Fasterfox, networking access latency kicks a** as well. No longer is Opera even slighly faster.
Five stars, and two thumbs up.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 31, 2006

Definitely better than it used to be a year ago. And pretty much anything is better than running Internet Explorer.

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 24, 2006

Good bye IE and Netscape.

MrFlibble

MrFlibble reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 24, 2006

Fable (Definition) - A fiction or half-truth, especially one that forms part of an ideology, usually widely believed but possibly just pulled out of one person's butt. While Firefox is a decent Web Browser, there are numerous Fables I spread around the Internet regarding it just so I can debunk them. Hopefully if I advertise this on every technology-related message board on the Internet under a dozen or so different names, enough people will click on my ads to make me filthy rich.

http://nanobox.chipx86.com/FirefoxFables/

john84

john84 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 22, 2006

Firefox Rocks! IE7 will have to be pretty darn good in order to sway a lot of Firefox users!

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-Ryan
CyberNet Technology News
http://www.cybernetnews.com

Darken

Darken reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 20, 2006

Great browser!

@ Mastertech: Pathetic!

John_Bedin

John_Bedin reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 16, 2006

I gave it a 5 because, unlike IE, it has not not caused any problems ie. "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and will close ". The feedback to Microsoft regarding the problem is merely window dressing. I have been using Firefox as my default browser for Gmail without any difficulty, unlike IE. I wish IE 7 will be more stable.

klingon379

klingon379 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 16, 2006

Bottom line: The Gecko rendering engine is vastly superior to all other browser rendering engines currently available. Web browsers like IE 6 and earlier can't even come close to the performance of Firefox. Maybe IE 7 will improve on this.

An IE front end cannot improve IE's rendering performance. It doesn't matter if an IE front end adds tabbed browsing and an easier way to use search engines. It's completely useless without a blazing fast rendering engine.

rotjong

rotjong reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 16, 2006

I haven't had any problems since updating from v1.5. Glad to see the fixes implemented. As to the comments about extensions breaking and that being so bad... sorry, but that's a lame excuse to dislike the program. As has already been stated it is not Mozilla's job to update the extensions or create backward compatibility. It's the author of the extension who is responsible to stay on their toes. Wait a few days [and definitely after the official update not an RC] and authors will update their extensions. As it stands I use 14 extensions and _only_ 4 aren't compatible. Hmmm... Guess they don't just continually break extensions. No problems with my theme breaking either. In fact none of the themes I have installed [7 of them] needed an update to work. Good to see Mozilla moving on with their product while Microsoft ever so slowly makes IE more like Mozilla Firefox.

azimov

azimov reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 16, 2006

I have to disagree with ROJ, Firefox doesn't break the extensions, it's the other way round. The extensions don't work with the upgraded version of FF.
Why do the developers have to bust a gut to make sure that all extensions work with the browser? FF is the main program, if the extension developper can't keep their extension upto date then it's their fault.

I personally use Firefox as my main browser, I also use Opera, (maxthon is basically a very good interface over IE).
I have found though that Opera has it's own problems mainly in online HTML Texareas, or edit/text entry methods for blogs. Not a big deal, but still something that can get in the way.

mufdvr3669

mufdvr3669 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 16, 2006

Guess since fanboys are voting both ways, I'll give it a five for the hell of it.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 16, 2006

I agree that FF has been overhyped a bit, but do not wish to tarnish all the hard and prolonged work going into it. While I like Maxthon & Opera better, i have found on my 9x systems totally the opposite experiences of XP/2K: FF has been outstanding, while the last two Maxthon upgrades have had issues(yes, i'm aware of the unicode choice. I would guess the fault may lie with something Windows-- for IE sometimes crashes too. FF & Opera have never, neither assorted Linux browsers: I'm still talking re win9x-- no browsing crashes on NT Platforms to report, except for occasionally FF). I run FF now w/ 22 extensions, down from @ 3 dozen in past versions when some issues surfaced. It would help if a prominent section with extension bug reports & esp. conflicts w/ particular ones was put up on Moz site.

roj

roj reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

I agree completley with zridling. I've long said that the extension idea is half-baked in its execution. This browser breaks them with each new release, the management of them is haphazard at best and the vast majority of the extension features Should Be Built Into The Browser From The Get-Go.

To crow and bill your product as the greatest thing since sliced bread when all you did was provide a bare-bones platform is simply a con job. I also love the fanboi claims about the Gecko engine - NONE of which can be substantiaetd by FACT. What Gecko DOES have (and this is always somehow ignored by the pundits and fanboiz) is a huge honking sporadic memory leak that has persisted since the original Mozilla.

TWO stars for an overblown and overrated media pundit darling that has never delivered what it's been touted as. Never mind the glowing promises - the honeymoon's long been over. It can't hold a candle to Maxthon.

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Firefox is just more trouble than it's worth. Keeping up with all the crap, aka extensions, that should be built into the program has become insane. Back to Maxthon, a real browser.

digitalzen

digitalzen reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

I reinstalled 1.5 because not all my extensions were compatible with this version.

Tried Opera last week. Nowhere near versatile enough for me. I like the extensions, don't need someone else deciding my bells and whistles for me. Fx wins out every time I try something else. I guess if I needed my hand held....

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Thank God Opera has kicked the crap out of this browser. Im so glad to be able to read the forums without having to dig through the garbage "oh my god the best thing in the world" or "I cant live without open source"...whatever...its over...get a life.

offmdan

offmdan reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Be careful!
If you want to keep your present extensions and themes, do not upgrade to anything!

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

I usually do not benefit from minor version incrementations, but --

Fixed: 299343 - Can't copy and paste into the beginning of a line (Midas/designMode)

I cannot begin to express how much frusteration that bug has caused me. I thought it was my content management system and could not understand why I neeeded to hit space before pasting content. Furthurmore, when clients using Firefox would ask, I'd have to explain the limitations of my software and the quirky bug... seems it was a Firefox problem...

... and

Fixed: 312415 - Selected images (from a selection of the document to print) are black

Yup... seen that too...

Fixed: 105894 - Clicking a partially off-screen link shouldn't scroll the page

Yup ... that one has driven me nuts as well...

--

Firefox, my preferred browser, has fixed bugs that I didn't blame it for. How biased am I? I love Firefox for the general feel of the browser, adherence to W3C Standards, and possibly most - the extensions available that are so helpful to a web developer (Web Developer, Google PageRank, FasterFox, DOM Inspector, ColorZilla and Small Screen Renderer.

I'm thrilled about these bug fixes -- first time I've actually really cared about them =)

hazlema

hazlema reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Best browser on the market.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

I only use this for XP 64bit now. On my other computers I use Seamonkey. I consider Firefox something of a nuisance.

Master-

Master- reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Working perfect for me.

And most of the Extenstions are still working. Thumbs up!

plings

plings reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Crashed on startup! Great... Not :(

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

I don't have the guts to browse the web with Microsoft Internet Exploder so this is perfect. Quick and secure.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

A Perfect Browser for Me. Extensions and themes working fine. Only needs an adjust in memory management! Watch Out! Now It's time to attack Firefox (look for MS widows), IE7 is coming soon!

OpenSebJ

OpenSebJ reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

Brilliant browser, packed with features, rock solid and stable. This is an example of Open Source software at it's best.

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 15, 2006

A review is a review, not an excuse session.
FF was and likely is an ok browser.
The sole strength is the extensions.
These are broken with each new version.
Yeah, there are hacks and patches and yet more extensions to make some work. But what's the point? Very clumsy and unfriendly.

The 1.5 series so far is unusable on one machine here because it insists on displaying pages in MS Comic font!

While it is installed on one machine, I didn't bother with the new machine because of the flaky nature of the display and the PITA of extensions.

I just use Maxthon and forget the 'joy' of tweaking this and that to be able to browse the web.

I'll check back for FF 2.x

chronon

chronon reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

It only crashed to me two or three times since I started using firefox(a year ago). I'm using 15 extensions!! If it's crashing for you, you must be doing something really wrong. Before rating it so badly remember this is a release candidate, more bugs can and will be problaly fixed in the final release. The 1.5 in my opinion it's not a step down at all. Incompatibility detection of extensions is an automatic defense to protect firefox from crashing because of the extesions, it's a nice feature. If you rated it low because you didn't like it LEARN HOW TO RATE!! People give a low rating with some stupid and senseless review...I just hate this...

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

Works great. Just had to flip the version number back to 1.5's to get all the extensions accepted.

I haven't had any spyware or viruses get into my computer in over 5 months. :)

Danny7

Danny7 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

This is NOT a nightly build as it's in the releases folder on mozilla FTP site:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...la.org/firefox/releases/

landfish

landfish reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

nightly build, not that that matters. Great browser just gets better and better, except for the extension problems each time a new version arrives. The nightly tester tools extension works for some stuff but not all.

FataL

FataL reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

https://bugzilla.mozilla.../show_bug.cgi?id=309550
Please, wote for this regression bug in Firefox 1.5. If you don't many good designed and coded web forms will be ugly in Firefox 1.5x.
P.S. Nobody working on this bug yet!

maxvision

maxvision reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

I'm still trying to figure out when the memory leak will be fixed as well. It's so odd that so many people praise this program with it's main flaw still sticking its head out after countless releases.

eddie

eddie reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

prophet05: nope... its not a nightly build.. look at the file name and URL.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

I think 1.5 is a step down from 1.0.7 overall. I'd like the extension issues nailed, or their architecture designed to make sure everything works stable:period. I still have issues with random extensions on 1.5, far more than I did on 1.0.x series.

Keep at it mozilla.

prophet05

prophet05 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

gah...This is a nightly build.

http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/

slugs2112

slugs2112 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

I downloaded Firefox 1.5 and it copied all my extensions,themes and bookmarks with no problems.Great browser!

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

IE Tabs, IE view, tab mix plus, flashgot, yahoo upload tool....only exentions I need, i will report back to let yall know if my exenstions break :-)

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

A good fix release coming up but I am sorry, if you need another EXTENSION to make your extensions not break, then that indicates to me the browser is not ready for prime time. You can keep posting links to the nightly tester tools, but that doesnt make up for the fact that every release seems to break extensions and themes.

Plus, why dont they fix the memory leaks, I mean, leaving a browser up overnight should not be reason for the memory usage to jump 80MB when its just sitting idle.

Chronon: You insult people for not knowing "how to review" yet you seem to fail to realize that a review is a personal opinion of a program. You might think that the disabling of extensions due to POSSIBLE compatibility issues is a good thing, but many many users disagree with you. I personally find that having to have an extension to re-enable other extensions on an upgrade to be a tad bit ridiculous. You might not agree, but again, no one asked you to. A review is a personal opinion of a piece of software, or an article, or whatever else is being reviewed. So before you attack someone, please learn the definition.

ServerMechanic

ServerMechanic reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

I'm happy with 1.5 just how it is.

Don't want to upgrade and make my extensions not work again.

They really need to fix the upgrades breaking extensions issue.

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

No problems here with this new build.

Anyone having problems with extensions should install this extension http://users.blueprintit...ox/buildid/nightly.html and use it to make all their extensions and themes compatible.

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

sigh, yet AGAIN all my extensions are "incompatible" with this release, I thought they were gonna fix this? Bloody ridiculous, why doesn't fox just ignore the version number within the xpi and then the USER can decide if an extension is functioning? I'll be moving to opera if this continues

RWW

RWW reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

I give Firefox a 4. I really respect what they are doing but for me I cannot beat Opera for default and Maxthon for those testy things written just for IE.

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v1.5.0.1 RC1 on Jan 14, 2006

While I love Firefox, I have been absolutely pissed with all the hangups and crashing on my PC. I was only days away from switching to Opera, but maybe this release will fix the problems i've been having...and I can finally love my Firefox all over again.

Aires

Aires reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 29, 2005

Firefox 1.6 Alpha 1 available here:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...-US.win32.installer.exe

imanino

imanino reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 25, 2005

If you want to remain soft, really soft, like micro soft in terms of your browsing then go right ahead. IE is great if you don't like the idea of customizing your browser, since it makes all of the major decisions for you. On the other hand, if you want a browser that you can essentially create yourself by extensions, themes, plugins, and participating in the development..Firefox is competitive. Perfect?..no..better than IE? Believe the hype..One of only two browsers gaining ground against IE in market share for all the chatter AND micros...insiders tell me the beta development of IE is almost specifically targeted at countering some of the features and more importantly, potential features being workd on in the Fox.

RoSmecher

RoSmecher reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 25, 2005

Great software, this browser along with Maxthon is the best browser out there now. Can’t wait for IE 7 to see what Microsoft spit out, then people can actually compare firefox to ie.

yanike

yanike reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 23, 2005

OK. Firefox... hmm.. Great but not so great. I feel into the big hype and now not currently using. Get Maxthon or Opera, you can't go wrong with the new Maxthon Web Browser. Firefox is great if you like downloading all these plugins and addons just to make do what you want. It's your computer, your decision. Rating 3 out of 5.

wyzwyk

wyzwyk reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 19, 2005

This browser only gets better with time. While the security is good and the page rendering speed fast in this new version what separates Firefox 1.5 from all others is the enormous feature set available through add-on extensions, themes, and plugins. These allow you to customize the browser to the nth degree and have only those functions that you want.

Ergo

Ergo reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 19, 2005

Since version 1.5 I must admit it is the best browser even for ordinary users. Before that it was best only for professional surfers :)

MOTVG

MOTVG reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 12, 2005

Firefox is my favorite browser right now but the 1.5 needs a bit more work. I already had my user profile wiped out four times and it's really getting annoying to put it back together again. The browser gets a five but this annoyance puts it down to a four.

uberfly

uberfly reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 7, 2005

I still primarily use this browser (along with opera), but I'm disapointed with this release just based on the fact that it seems pretty buggy, even after a clean install. The search field won't work anymore, right-click copying (clipboard) out of web pages doesn't work now for some odd reason, and the bottom status bar floats about 2 inches above the task bar. Odd stuff and maybe it's just me, but there seems to be a bunch of loose ends.

geek2k6

geek2k6 reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 5, 2005

Comparing Firefox 1.5 to the ever-popular Internet Explorer is like comparing Albert Einstein to a kindergartener.

Firefox's user friendliness outweighs any present web browser available. It's tabbed browsing, theme customizations, and compatibility with the latest versions of HTML, JavaScript, and CSS.

Firefox's main difference from Internet Explorer is the safety feature. Internet Explorer uses what is called Active X system technology to allow more compatibility with websites. However, due to this more "compatibility," hackers have constantly been using invisible Active X downloads via Internet Explorer to corrupt a user's computer.

Firefox doesn't use Active X systems, and prevents "invisible downloads."

Before switching to Firefox my computer constantly got viruses/worms and I later found out from Internet Explorer. It wasn't until I switched to this amazing browser that my computer has been cleaned of viruses for years!

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 3, 2005

First of all, I never said that Firefox contained spyware.

Secondly, I agree with roj about Firefox. In my opinion, the dev team should at the very least maintain or oversee a core set of extensions, to ensure compatibility. You can whine that you don't need a "session saving" extension, but the ability to save session state is an obvious feature that every modern browser should have. Get real. And that's just one example.

Thirdly, thanks, BetaNews, for deleting my previous review, which contained nothing more offensive than half the "reviews" found on this site.

I'm sick of having reviews deleted for no good reason, while reviews that contain blatant name-calling remain.

So, the rate-it-5-just-because-it's-freeware kids win: You're reading the last review that httpd.confused will ever write on this site. Hooray!

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 2, 2005

UPDATE : Go here and install this if you are having extension issues ... just right click on the ext. and ''make compatible'' https://addons.mozilla.o...ons/moreinfo.php?id=421

btw , http youre everywhere bashing freeware and promoting shareware for no good reason at all .

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 2, 2005

I always try to give Firefox a fair chance, but the constant theme and extension breaking is unforgivable. And why is image resizing still enabled by default?

Does anyone expect the average user to put up with this? Sure some might upgrade, but most people will probably stick with an earlier (insecure) version due to the hassles involved with "upgrading."

I'm sorry but this whole project reaks of amateur night. The Mozilla suite was on a better track. I say fire those currently heading the Firefox development and let some adults take over.

bigspud

bigspud reviewed v1.5 Final on Dec 1, 2005

starts ok, but goes to 100% cpu use after some browsing.
unacceptable for a final version.
avoid v1.5

Reckessie

Reckessie reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

I have the same experience as others. I lost my bookmarks, all extensions broke, and I have had nothing but problems since upgrading.

And to those telling me to take backups of profiles and so on and so forth, I have just one thing to tell you:

THIS IS NOT WHAT I EXPECT FROM FINISHED SOFTWARE!

I am not a hardcore geek. I try to stay updated. If I have to play around with Firefox and do all kinds of workarounds, then APPARENTLY IT IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME AND SHOULD NOT BE MARKETED AS SUCH.

I need it to just work!

All of those fans who are now defending 1.5's incredibly weak upgrade support are doing nothing but hurting the browser.

Firefox isn't new either. It's been out as a FINAL version for a year, and before that there was the Mozilla suite. One would have thought that after many years they would be able to get this right.

I will continue to try Firefox, but for now it simply does not cut it, and no number of excuses and workarounds can fix that if you want to reach a wider audience.

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

Badabababoum ! Firefox is no more beta ! Yeah !

roj

roj reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

As per yore, it did break extensions - but I guess that's de riguer now. The upgrade process remains junk. I prudently "upgraded" (I use the term loosely) by uninstalling the works and reinstalling after watching the pain, grief and suffering of a colleague. Using FireTune, it does appear faster than previous versions but still can't match Maxthon or any other IE derivative - Gecko is SLOW. With two tabs open (the standard start page and this review) it consumes 24Mb - that's Jenny Craig material. I also maintain that the basic architectural premise of relying primarily on third party (and not home grown) extensions to provide functionality above an extremely minimalistic baseline is just plain wrong if mass user acceptance is desired. I don't buy a car without a steering wheel and tires (which is why I don't buy cars made by the Big Three) so this doesn't appeal to me from a mass market perspective either. Oh, and it still ignores THE Internet Standard Sites (read: no support for IE quirks mode) out of the box.

It's reasonably competent but no new messiah and the hype remains undeserved.

This project still hasn't grown up yet and has a ways to go to get there. In its current incarnation and with current design criteria (the quirks mode issue), it could never dissuade me from using Maxthon. It has to get thinner and faster - a LOT thinner and faster. Also, absorbing and bundling extensions such as Tab Mix Plus, Adblock / Adblock Filterset and having the FireTune applet as an install wizard would go a long way to improving the out-of-box experience.

I'll give it three stars because out-of-box remains poor (especially upgrading - that's just stupidity), the resource consumption remains chunky and the speed, while improved, still ain't quite up there with the majors.

Jwec

Jwec reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

I have giving this firefox a 4. Mainly because it is miles better than IE, but it is still quite a way behind Opera. Mouse gestures people!

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

plings: I don't think the problem is Firefox, I think it's your PC.

BTW: Firefox has been tested for several months and you could have made a backup of your profile.

lordnaastik

lordnaastik reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

i know upgrading is a major pain for gecko based browser. but i for one am willing to endure any pain so long as i dont have to use IE from microcrap.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

It's a new browser. Make a backup with MozBackup before upgrade!! Splendid software!!

plings

plings reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

Extensions broke, it keeps crashing, and what do you know, my bookmarks disappeared!

I really wish they would test this thing before releasing it :(

niti

niti reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

Perfect for me...

Crono`

Crono` reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

nice browser, but only a second choice under windows.

Ulmo

Ulmo reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

TomekLutel, you'r right, FF take mutch longer to start than IE. Wait XULRunner ;)
But that the only concession I can make...

And you can't use IE, since it has an HORRIBLE security flaw, you must use an other browser or disable JavaScript to be safe.

If you want speed start and W3C compliance, talk me about Opera, but not about this old and ridiculous IE, thanks.

FF 1.5 is great !

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

It's okay, but don't believe the hype. Opera is superiour in too many aspects. But Firefox is a fine choice for a third browser(behind Opera and IE) if you need that.

TomekLutel

TomekLutel reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

I dont understand this excitement around Firefox, its slower than IE (slower startup, pages rendering is much slower), it makes questionable interpretations of standards. It cant render pages correctly when using sophisticated CSS.

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

FF is a great program, but lately I have noticed it to be a little glitchy on some of my systems, the auto update sucks, and the extension system is annoying at times (not really moz's fault). But, aside from that...it's still the best thing on the market.

Oh, one more thing...OPERA SUCKS...just deal with it, it sucks...seriously.

matt2971

matt2971 reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

I agree it's not up to Mozilla to update extensions.... but it's an inherant flaw in the system itself, when you can't update to the new release for an indefinate amount of time, just because the extensions you rely upon are not ready and you can't live without them.

The functionality enabled by extensions like "Tab Mix" and "Super Drag n Go" should be standard parts of the Firefox install - at least as optional installs - the same as some third-party-plugins are bundled with software like Maxthon... which I'd rather return to than go to FF1.5 without half the funtionality I use....

I'll be sticking with the last 1.0.7 release for now. 5 of my 7 extensions won't update yet, including the must-haves above.

I'll give them this: after a 1.5 install and uninstall, I put 1.0.7 back and it picked up every setting I had...

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 30, 2005

My favorite browser (temporarily) finalized!

Superb!

Remember folks, extensions and themes are up to their respective writers to update not Mozilla's, don't downgrade the browser for that reason!

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Update from 1.5rc2 on win98 & ME went peachy keen: no broken extensions or plugins to report, the speed is now fantabulous.
I will hold off updating other win & linux versions for now, though.

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

The extension system sucks. Every time there is an upgrade extensions break.
Instead of a version range, why not a 'Min version'?

Anyway, a happy day for FF Fanbois.

ogman

ogman reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Breaks waaaaaay to many extensions. I'll wait til the extension authors catch up. Redownloading all of them was okay early on, but somewhere along the way the extension authors and the firefox developers need to get together.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

None of my five extensions had a compatibility problem with this release, so I had a quick and painless upgrade from 1.07.

I like the reorganization of the options menu, and page-loads seem a bit faster, so all I can say is the best just got a little better.

Danny7

Danny7 reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

An awesome browser gets even better@

emrldjetta

emrldjetta reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

The best as far as I'm concerned. Don't bother with anything else.

heybirder

heybirder reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Great browser but I just wish they'd stop breaking extensions every release. There must be some way to avoid that.

CvFirefox

CvFirefox reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

The Best Browser in the World!!

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Absolutely fantastic!

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

5 Stars Good Stuff enough said.

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Anyone else having the Flash problem should update their Adblock to v0.5.2.055 here-

http://aasted.org/adblock/viewtopic.php?t=2264

And install this extension to force all your extensions and themes to work with v1.5

http://users.blueprintit...ox/buildid/nightly.html

werne

werne reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Mozilla.org has now posted Firefox 1.5 final on their website and the MD5 hash of it is the same as RC3. So RC3 has apparently been accepted as the final version.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Okay, I'm 98% sure this is simply RC3. Why? Because my Outpost Pro firewall's Component Control would have kicked in, warning me of any changed component(s) in the FF app - just as it always has on EVERY other new release I've ever installed. I have had no such warnings after installaing this "Final" release.

DudeBoyz

DudeBoyz reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Crap. All my THEMES are broken!

That said, it seems a bit more stable and consistent in terms of the UI than before, but other than that, I have not invested tons of time in testing yet. Will do so.

Why is it that Firefox can't be backwards compatible with themes, etc.? Would sure lessen the headaches.

So, bottom line is that compatibility with themes and extensions sucks, but otherwise, I like what I see so far.

GoodThings2Life

GoodThings2Life reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

I really like Firefox, and 1.5 is definitely just what the doctor ordered in terms of functionality and improvements. The modifications to the tabbed browsing alone have convinced me to switch from IE, but the better page rendering has me hooked too.

Watch out for Plugin compatibility though... It's better to get your plugin downloads from the developer's site rather than addons.mozilla.org (which is usually a version or two behind).

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

hey, cowgaR, if you really cared enough you would report those bugs right away.

Besides, there's no way that that site had enough time to make a bug report that big...Hypocrite...

I'm sticking with this until I see that Opera 9 is trully dominant.

Wes

Wes reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

The Firefox page (linked to on this page-- the official one) doesn't mention 1.5 as final yet, so who knows.

As for the browser itself, it doesn't have any huge flaws; it's a bit easier to manage than Opera, but I will always, always, always prefer Opera unless the Firefox team figures out why their software feels so clunky on Windows (and Linux!) and seems to run so slowly even on great systems. Opera is just an extremely solid, robust and most importantly much faster alternative to IE, and it's free now.

Just my $0.02.

WhiteZero

WhiteZero reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Yeah, on the site, it says that RC3 MAY not be the final, so MAYbe it was. If so, then this FileForum post was just renamed and reposted.

But I've seen no conformation on the Mozilla site that says RC3 is final.

faja

faja reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Great browser. There is no debating whether this is the final or not, it's out on Mozilla's ftp. Perhaps RC3 was the final work they did?

yuting

yuting reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Lots of good things, esp. the momentum of its support. But slow start-up speed is IMO a *really* bad point. Browser should be as ubiquitous as menus or dialog boxes nowadays, you don't start up the browser like you start up the computer.

Second point lots of features are copied from Opera and MyIE2 (Maxthon), which is not a bad thing as long as you're not Microsoft. Both Opera & Maxthon are faster to start up than Firefox though.

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Tried Opera, netscape 8, maxthon and even AOL explorer (the IE crutches). Firefox is still my preferred browser over any of those I listed. Maxthon and AOL Explorer were ok but they are still IE and I hate IE and Opera....well I loath Opera...It's the bain of my existance. Netscape is just garbage. Been using 1.5 since beta 1 and I have to say I've been very please with it. Had a few problems with extensions when moving from 1.0.7 to beta 1 but have had no problem since then. Moving from RC3 to final release was totally painless. All of my extensions worked.

Kramy

Kramy reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

I use portable firefox, and it works great!

It seems that tabs are the bane of most people, and suck memory dry. I can have 50 windows open, and FF barely comes close to 3mb/site.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

is ok
is open source
but is crap and copy opera since the begining
Opera 8.51 is wayyyy better
and use less ram

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

RC3 is good ;)

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Love the updated features, but hate that Firefox is just another memory hog. Plugins still implode when installing this version as we all know.

wickedfeel

wickedfeel reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

I've been a Maxthon man for quite some time now, and will be continue to be. But this release (and the previous 1.5 RC releases) finally does Firefox some justice. This is what 1.0 should have been. Much more stable and a little more cuztomizable. They still need to add some of the most popular Firefox extension features into the browser optionally, because having broken extensions with most incremental upgrades is ridiculous for end users and alot of work to ask of the people making the extensions to always keep up with. If it weren't for the poor extension management in Firefox i would use it all the time with this release, but for me, Maxthon does more with less work on my part. Opera 9.0 is also nice, but the fact that the interface is so limited on it's ability to be customized and till now, lack of support for Roboform really holds it back for me.
Rendering is quite nice in Firefox & so is font management better than Opera or IE/Maxthon, no doubt.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

My score: 3.0 (changed after a few upgrade tests)
This version is not upgrading cleanly from version 7.0.x for many of my users. I'm having to wipe the firefox programs directory (and therefore many extensions) to get it to open at all after installing this version)

Still has issues with plug - ins allowing it to crash the browser, in particular java's VM. I can blame FF because plug-ins shouldn't be able to take out your browser.
Auto-update without prompt should not be default. Can you imagine if Mozilla was hacked and now you have tens of millions of insecure drones at your beck and call? Might work for MS, but Mozilla should know better.

35 megs useage with 8 tabs and one adblock extension. Not too shabby.

mark8barnes

mark8barnes reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Doh! Roboform already has a Firefox 'plugin'. And, has consistently updated the extension to work with all the RCs within days of them being released. All your other comments were daft and have been dealt with.

sQin

sQin reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

my favourite browser.

pipdipchip

pipdipchip reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Installed 1.5 final and it's great. Rendering is getting A LOT better.

Frostek

Frostek reviewed v1.5 Final on Nov 29, 2005

Remember to use MozBackup or similar to backup your profile before upgrading. Never does any harm to be careful! :-)

Aires

Aires reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 29, 2005

SiTWulf - IE pluigns are for IE and IE based browsers only. It's up to the author of Roboform to write a plugin for Firefox if he wishes to do so. The fact that complex pages sometimes do not display properly is because they are generally coded to display in IE - that's not Firefox' fault but instead the person who coded the webpage.

yusufjee

yusufjee reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 28, 2005

"1 out of 5 Great browser???
This browser is toooooo bad!... for example:

* Not compatible with CSS style
* Not compatible with XHTML 1.2
* Not compatible with IE Plugins like (Roboform and others)
* Not compatible with some complex webpages."

What the hell you talking about? Did you just came out of cave or something? Just asking :)

SiTWulf

SiTWulf reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 26, 2005

Great browser???
This browser is toooooo bad!... for example:

* Not compatible with CSS style
* Not compatible with XHTML 1.2
* Not compatible with IE Plugins like (Roboform and others)
* Not compatible with some complex webpages.

One week testing this browser and only get more and more errors...

If you like the BEST and 100% compatiblew WITH ALL you must use: MAXTHON!

JonathanDoe

JonathanDoe reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 19, 2005

omg I can't wait till the final release is out! I love the new re-ordering of tabs feature. And the semi new GUI for certain parts are...nice.

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Keeps getting better .

Btw , If you want pages to load faster then get the tweaks for it . If you want the program to load faster then get the program for it .

I agree with the user below about opera users ..

improvelence

improvelence reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

You know who I really hate?...Opera users, they remind me so much of Mac users..idkw

C'mon...you know what I am talking about.

[edit]
Oh yea..this works.

[another edit]
IF THIS IS SLOW FOR YOU IT IS WAY PAST UPGRADE TIME..JESUS. Quit blaming software or that fact that your PC is long outdated.

microFawad

microFawad reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

It loads pages faster but sucks in performance of computer system not the internet connection.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

I've been having some problem with this beta on two machines with XP. I launch FF without problem. If I try to launch it a 2nd time, it doesn't run. I have exited out of FF, try to relaunch without the browser coming up. I check the Task List and find an instance of FF running as a process. I have uninstalled FF, deleted the directory, reinstalled the beta, and have still run into the same problem. I will probably stick with 1.07 until there's a final release of the next version. I enjoy betas, but this one isn't working for me.

oomingmak

oomingmak reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

I use Firefox exclusively and I really have come to rely on it (as well as my fave extensions such as ScrapBook). However, despite having used it for well over a year, I still can't get used to the mind-numbingly slow startup time and memory hogging.

Shame they can't sort these 2 long standing issues out.

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

davidtb: I haven't noticed any glitches at all with RC2 or RC3. I'm thining that a plug-in you are using might be the cause of the issue perhaps?

I think Firefox is the best browser out there and I have tried them all. Opera is very good but IMHO it needs to have extensions like Firefox.

The update facility is working great with this and the previous release. Very nice feature. Click help, check for updates and its done in a matter of seconds. :) It's great not having to download the entire program just for an update.

Go-go Firefox! :)

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Ah, finally a viable alternative to 1.07.
Took a bit of sleuthing to find newer extensions and themes that work with 1.5 (e.g. Adblock+ and the accompanying 'filterset.G' ), but everything seems to work very well.
Had to fully hide my old profile by renaming the Application Data/Mozilla folder to get this to install and work correctly, just in case I wanted to revert to 1.07. I don't think I'll have to do that, though.

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

As with everyone else posting about RC3, FF is my default browser.
Has anyone noticed that sometimes when you click on a blank portion of as page it'll shoot you to the bottom of it?
I find this glich annoying, tho not enough to switch.

yohimbe9

yohimbe9 reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

I've been using the 1.5 series lately and love it. I'm a little worried about jumping to RC3 because I can't stand to possibly lose some extensions again like I did during the beta releases. Once I confirm they work I'll jump. My only complaints are like everyone elses: memory usage. I usually leave a tab open running GMail and by the end of the day Firefox usually has over 100MB allocated, even if I close all tabs but GMail. But still the browser is very tight and I really enjoy it!

iamtux

iamtux reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Though I love FF, I'm not downloading this beta, I've got RC2, I'm just going to wait for the final release. Keep it up Mozilla!

berserkchaos

berserkchaos reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

now i feel wierd when I use IE.

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Firefox is my default browser of choice, due to a few simple factors:

a) Solid as a rock stability (v1.5x has never crashed on me),
b) Solid protection against spyware (haven't had spyware in months on my system thanks to Firefox)
c) Rendering to me doesn't appear any slower then IE (even though it probably is)
d) Plug-ins.
e) Tabbed browsing.
f) Interface is friendly and simple.

Cons for Firefox:

a) Memory usage, right now on this same review (1 tab) Firefox is taking 39 meg, compared to IE v6.0 viewing the same page at 21 meg.

Obviously, you can do the math, Firefox takes up more system resources to view the same information, but 18 meg extra isn't the worse in the world for rock solid Spyware protection & stability compared to IE, which has 0 protection against anything, and does crash every so often. Exactly what you would expect from a product that hasn't been updated in 4 years.

People must also take into account IE's intergration into Windows already, this could already account for the 18 meg already, as explorer.exe takes 20 meg as standard, so Firefox could be forgiven.

[Update] - Nope, scrap that, using Opera v8.5 with 2 tabs open, including this one, the memory usage is only 26.5 meg, so Mozilla has no excuse really, it looks like their code needs cleaning up a lot!

But when it comes to what other users are saying, 300mb memory usage for a browser with 18 tabs, this is not acceptable & MUST be improved!

I too have suffered from Firefoxes poor memory allocation, i believe if Firefox finally addresses this issue, it will be the *perfect* browser for me.

That being said, i am going to download Opera v8.5 because i cannot ignore the excellent reviews it keeps getting, i didn't like Opera in the past when i tried v5 and v6, but that was years ago, i want to see if the claims ring true, if they do, i'll review Opera over at the Opera page and not here, as this is the review section for Firefox, not Opera.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

This product, as I pointed out below, has quite a few flaws. Certain functionality which should have been included in 1.0, or even in this build, has been left out and requires an extension. I.E., session saving, tab moving (which is finally in 1.5), proper memory management, etc. The memory management in 1.5 still hasnt improved from what I can tell. I still get around 300MB of memory usage after leaving a browser open with around 18 tabs open for more than a day. Granted I can just close and restart the browser, but why should I have to? A restart wouldnt be required if proper memory coding had been achieved in the first place. Anyways, firefox isnt all bad, its not the fastest browser on earth when it comes to page rendering, but it does a decent job. It is my default browser and currently my browser of choice (until opera supports extensions, and on that day I will jump ship unless firefox does something drastic to impress me and keep me on). The extension system needs to be reworked so that it can remain the same for at last ONE major version change (to include all minor revisions, i.e. 1.5.1 -> 1.5.10. The 1.0 series was plagued with extension incompatibilities (yes, they have an extension that fixes this too, somewhat, but why should it require one? Why should I be required to enlist the help of a 3rd party? Why not develop an extension system, leave it in place, and unless something major occurs like a security hole, only update it on a major release or version change? Anyways, as I said, this browser gets 3 stars from me for what it does, but I dont feel it will really hit maturity (at the rate its going) until 3.0.

And now, the post below by badlron, is why I hate fanboys of any browser. They come to a review forum and instead of REVIEWING THE PRODUCT, they simply say "xxx is better and this product copied from XXX product". Honestly, who cares if it was copied? What does opera want, a cookie for developing something first? Every feature gets copied eventually. If no single feature was ever copied we would have ONE APPLICATION with a File, edit, view, etc menu system or a program that can copy paste or the ability to use a mouse pointer in a program, etc. The opera fanboys need to get off their high horses and realize that just because they developed something first doesnt mean they have to sit there and gloat about it every time another browser uses the feature. Your browser isnt as popular (although it should be), get over it and stop playing the blame game because of such a fact. Opera has money incoming from several different ends and could have easily spent some on a marketing strategy like firefox has. Mozilla is an open source organization and most of their funding went to advertising. How many opera commercials have you seen on tv? None. How many firefox? at least 3 I've seen in the last few months. Now, the firefox fan boys are no different from the opera ones and can in fact be quite more ruthless. The fan boys for these two browsers are what give the products a bad name since neither side can show any respect for someone elses opinion. If a bug if pointed out in firefox or opera, the users are quick to jump in and call FUD or BS on them even if the bug is pretty obvious. And god forbid you report something on bugzilla or the opera forums as an actual BUG, then you will simply get many users and dev's stating "It was designed this way and should work as you just described" and they will jump through hoops to avoid claiming that a bug actually exists in their beloved browser. To the user a few posts below who says he cant get this to crash and 99.9% of users probably can say the same, what rock have you been hiding under? I hang on IRC, #help on efnet, and see nothing but people coming in asking why their browser crashed. I also hang in #opera and I see, although not as often, people complaining about the browser crashing. So again, as said below, no browser is perfect and no browser will ever please everyone 100% of the time. If you ask me, the ratings of the browsers go, in order of functionality out of the box and speed, Opera, Ie, Firefox (for the 3 major windows browsers). Yes, opera and IE both render faster and do more out of the box (although current IE doesnt have tabs, it is coming). Firefox is still my default because of its extensibility, but I feel opera will be including an extension system as they are probably realizing that not everyone wants to be forced to use what the devs feel like putting in there and want to be able to expand their browser. On that day I will move to opera, because imho, it is a far superior browser to all others on the market.

Phewf, that was a long post

The user above had a very nice review, the only issue I have to argue is the IE portion which says it has no protection against spyware. I have to disagree. I am no MS fanboy, but I do know that IE6 SP2 has the info bar which alerts you when IE has blocked an activex install script. Since IE6 SP2, I can visit any site and get no spyware. IE6 now alerts you when a site attempts to install a spyware installing activex control.

To improvolence, who posted simply to whine at the user below him and opera users, I have a 2.4GHZ system with 1GB of ram and it lags my system, at times, to a crawl and thats with nothing else open. Explain that one smart guy :)

nirmalv

nirmalv reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Funny i am using opera 9 and am also getting page overflows on the rt side in view all reviews mode.So i guess this is not a mozilla issue

edit: Works fine on ie . Bad betanews ...bad

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Opera 9 is way better..
there is no reason to go to firefox now that opera is free
i cant count how many things firefox "copyed" from opera broser...

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

"I would love to see the "split view" of viewing bookmarks like Opera offers."
Try All in One Sidebar.
http://firefox.exxile.net/index.php

LoctOut

LoctOut reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

wat0114....

I see the same thing, and I'm using version 1.07

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

Although not perfect (what browser is?), Firefox is my first choice. I don't use any extensions or themes although I've tried many in the past.

I would love to see the "split view" of viewing bookmarks like Opera offers.

I've seen comments that state Firefox crashes. I doubt that is a Firefox issue as I couldn't get this program to crash if I tried and 99.99% of the people could probably say the same thing.

I hope that programs like Firefox force Microsoft to quit dragging its feet with software development. Things have really stagnated since Microsoft got its monopoly.

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

I have the same problem as wat0114.

stopbuggingme

stopbuggingme reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 18, 2005

best browser....

phaedrusone

phaedrusone reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

lovin it

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

This is odd. After clicking "View all Reviews" the text on these reviews encroaches on the right-hand blue border! Is anyone else seeing this? Otherwise, it seems to have a little more snap than previous versions. Nice browser.

adam.yao

adam.yao reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

Memory usage is too larger than 1.07 version.

eviljolly

eviljolly reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

Firefox is definitely the best overall browser out there. Not to mention there's an extension to do almost anything any other browser can.

@ adam.yaho "Memory usage is too larger than 1.07 version."

lol?

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

No issues. Works great. The only issue I've had with FF since 1.0 was the first RC of FF 1.5, but that was addressed a while ago.

eddie

eddie reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

Sapphire: v1.6 is a nightly build and is not really for public use. The 1.5 Build the other sites posted was also just a nightly build and was not the true final.. hence the 1.5 RC3 release today.

Sapphire

Sapphire reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

Now I am confused, it is my information 1.50 is final now and they have the first version of 1.60 out and here is the link for 1.60 the first build.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...-US.win32.installer.exe

Zodiachus

Zodiachus reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

Oh, am I looking forward to the sharp version of this!

@cricri_pingouin,
I've experienced very few of the problems you seem to have had. Unfortunately for every software product there seems to be a minority who experience lots of trouble with it, regardless what it is.

Anyway, you _can_ export Firefox settings. In fact, I've set it up so that the settings are stored on a separate drive. This means after I wipe my main partition and restore a good version from my Ghost backups or make a fresh installation, the settings will be loaded seamlessly from the other drive when I start Firefox. No copying anything!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

so...olaechea..Did you rate it 4 since you had trouble finding a spanish version?! :D

More stable than RC2, thats for sure, but not even plausible to be a release candidate, IMO.

giwo

giwo reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

The best just keeps getting better.

When I first started using Firefox (around the 1.0 beta's), I found it difficult to adapt to. After nearly a year of using it, the only reason I even launch IE anymore is to use Windows Live Mail beta.

The main reason I reccomend FF to friends and loved ones is security. I won't argue that Firefox doesn't have vulnerabilities, what I will say is that vulnerabilitis in IE are far more exploited, and left vulnerable for much longer periods of time. Ask anyone who works on computers of those not quite so tech-savvy, and see what amounts of junk they get simply from browsing.

Myself, I use it for several other reasons, largely not related to security.

At work, we have Win98 machines. Anyone who has used an ancient system running windows 98 knows that eventually, IE will load a page it doesn't like, crash, and force a full reboot of the computer. While I actually have not had ANY crashes with Firefox on these computers, I can rest assured that at least if I do, it won't take the entire system with it.

At home, I am more concerned with two things. Desktop real estate, and memory usage. This, unfortunately, is a tradeoff with the current builds of Firefox. They save me vast amounts of real estate; through the use of Adblock I don't even see adds anymore, and with Tabs I don't wind up with a cluttered taskbar (or alt-tab window). Sadly, the price is that Firefox seems to eat a bit more RAM (at least on every system I've put it on) than Internet Explorer. I find that if I forget about a FF window for a while, and come back to it, it is eating somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-50mb of RAM (outrageous!).

With that said, I become more impressed with Firefox every day. Automatic-Update works like a dream for new Firefox versions (that's how I just updated from RC2 to RC3). The page renders quickly, at least on every machine I use FF on. and Adblock has me forgetting websites even use banner adds (though I did have to get an unofficial version for it to work in 1.5).

Overall, Browser wars, much like Mac vs PC, XBox vs Playstation, and all the others, are opinions. Everyone has a unique perspective and thus unique experience.

What bothers me the most is that those who love FF (as I do) are considered "fanboys". Equally distasteful are the comments slung at faithful IE users (as most all of the "FF fanboys" were at one time faithful IE users). So... can't we all just get along? :P

SamppaX

SamppaX reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

cricri_pingouin... One thing... Works fine on my machine. I have no problems, When you are looking why these programs crash or stop working, you may wanna check your own system/programs first (If you can). Some programs don't go well with another. In your case start looking antivirus or firewall if they close your browser...

Good thing you describe your problems (That's good...)
But these things don't help us at all... =/ sorry

Oh & By The Way.. You did notice this is "BETA"!?!?

Let's just wait & see if they get them working stable (For someones... =P)

olaechea

olaechea reviewed v1.5 RC3 on Nov 17, 2005

Me parece un buen navegador, aunque tiene sus fallas, es usual; total, es gratis, tampoco se puede esperar oro, pero al menos es más seguro que otros navegadores y tiene buenas funciones, y lo mejor que siempre renuevan para que se adapte a las funcionalidades actuales.

cricri_pingouin

cricri_pingouin reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 16, 2005

I genuinely wanted to move to Firefox because of all the hype around it. That was a mistake. Clearly, a lot of people are Firefox fanboys who will flame anything else and ignore Firefox major flaws.
1 - it's unstable (at times it closes for no reason, even when I'm not experimenting anything fancy)
2 - it is a pain to install (not the software itself, but installing extensions and such do not always work as you would expect)
3 - it is a pain to maintain (in some cases, extension or other components will fail to update and will keep on nagging you to update, or will stop working altogether)
4 -you can't export your settings (including extensions and such). You'll basically have to set it up manually on every single machine.
5 - the software is not bloated by itself, but is clearly not light either AND lacks a lot of functionality. Hence, an install matching my requirements needs several extras installed, ultimately resulting in a bloated software.
6 - I create a lot of pages for my works. All of them pass XHTML 1.0 and CSS validation. All work perfectly in Maxthon and Opera. Yet, some fail to work properly (if at all) in Firefox. As far as SVG is concerned, all my SVG documents pass certification with no errors/warnings. In Opera, SVG looks good, but Opera is lacking SVG interaction (which they could AT LEAST point out instead of pretending they support SVG!). In IE + Adobe SVG Viewer (yes, there's a catch, you need an external plugin), everything works perfetly. In Firefox (the SVG build, although I understand it's only a WIP), it's somewhat working, but the rendering is very poor.

I kept Firefox a good couple of months, putting a lot of efforts into trying to make it behave properly before finally giving up. I returned to Maxthon which is genuinely light (in size and number of files), AND contains all I need out of the box, AND I can export my settings/plugins by just copying them over, AND is almost rock stable (it DOES crash at times, but very rarely compared to Firefox).

I know Maxthon is IE based, but although I'm not pro MS, I'm not anti MS either. It works, and that's what matters to me as a user.

As for "IE is full of holes", I'll avoid getting into details as of whether Firefox as holes or not to avoid conflicts with misinformed/biased/prejudiced anti MS people (probably the same people that pretend that Linux has no security hole whatsoever, or so they heard).

This is not worth a 3, but it's worth more than a two. So I'll give it a 2.51 rounded to 3.

Summary of Firefox/Maxthon comparison.
* Crashes: Maxthon="Duh" Firefox="Oh no, not again!"
* Update: Maxthon="Yipee!" Firefox="Augh, do I REALLY have to? I don't want to screw up anything."
* Settings portability: Maxthon="Copy, paste, done" Firefox="Ok, I've got to remember how I managed to do all this coz I'll have to repeat all these steps on my other computers too".
* Opening W3C compliant documents: Maxthon="Of course it will work", Firefox="Will it work?"

JonathanDoe

JonathanDoe reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 14, 2005

Works perfectly.

yanike

yanike reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 14, 2005

I have definitely changed my mind on Firefox. The IE tab plugin' makes this browser unstoppable. AOL Explorer has some good features but nothing tops this one. I just hope that the plugin's are automatically installed with the new browser. Especially the IE tab, FlashGot and Tabbrowser Preferences. Great Job Mozilla and it's third parties!!!

skizatch

skizatch reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 13, 2005

1.5 fixes the flashing Flash bug (pc.ign.com was annoying to load!), and really improves rendering performance. I like it!

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 12, 2005

The speed this new version renders at is incredible.

Kudos for multiplatform support, and a surprisingly stable release candidate.

The support is phenominal especially with the bug report button which has obviously helped the team sort out compatibility issues ALOT.

I just wish extensions would stay caught up...

wilson389

wilson389 reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 12, 2005

Although 1.5 RC 2 is not the final release, it is very stable and the performance has improved compared to 1.07. I see that rendering of web pages is better and the inferface is still simple and friendly. All in all, I'm please with the 1.5 release and looking forward to the final version.

urbanriot

urbanriot reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 12, 2005

Still a great alternative to IE for those that are looking for tabbed browsing, however I'll stick with 1.0.7 until some of the bugs are worked out. Upgrading from my previous version removed all my search bars and some customizations and the "lag" still exists on all my systems at the address bar. Strange cut and paste bugs exist as well (ie. cut/copy are sometimes "lost").

comment

comment reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 12, 2005

I am using both IE6 and Firefox on my PC. I also noticed that IE7 will only be for XP and future Vista users - it looks if Microsoft would like to dump users who are still on older Microsoft OS - I really hope it is not the case ...
Firefox is a cool, sexy and attractive Internet browser. Firefox serves in most of my needs. I love it and I think it will become more popular than Microsoft's IE - well who knows?
Thumbs up for Mozilla!

DACWILSOL

DACWILSOL reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 12, 2005

Netscape 8.0.4 is a better browser. I use Netscape with tab browsing and site controls. Basically what FF is trying to do. Netscape has better handling of sites. Essentially Netscape 8.0.4 is built upon IE and Gecko. For those worried about a bloated browser and add-ons, Netscape is neither. It is fast and very customizable. Give it a try.

FPSMaxxFoe

FPSMaxxFoe reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 11, 2005

Everytime I upgrade to the newest version some of my settings are lost. It is ridiculous to have to redo them over and over.

Love the browser, but very annoying.

HelgeFossmo

HelgeFossmo reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 11, 2005

Best browser!

RC2 has a bug it's installer deletes all C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\searchplugins content when upgrading from 1.0.7 without asking. I got 10 or something i made myself just deleted *GRRR*

Edit: By the way, i got my extensions updated and running in about 2 minutes, most by auto update feature, a few i had to visit homepage to manually download. Flashblock, IE view, Fasterfox, User Agent Switcher, Advanced Search Sidebar all work with RC2

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 11, 2005

LOL @ wat0114
And you think the browser underneath your shell program *isn't* a memory pig?

FF continues to improve rapidly and I think the final of 1.5 is gonna have "default browser" for many people written all over it.

kooshini

kooshini reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 11, 2005

Install the nightly tester tools,

this will force the extensions to work - note that some, for example FireFTP may not

http://users.blueprintit...ox/buildid/nightly.html

Hope this helps

slepax

slepax reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 11, 2005

What the hell is wrong with this thing?

Every time I install a new FF version some of the extensions does not work. I know it's still under testing and made sense for beta 1 and 2, but now again for the RC?

I had Google toolbar installed from Google's website on Deer Park Beta 2. I installed this RC2 and it says it's not compatible.

I love this browser, but this is sssooo annoying .. ggrrr ..

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 11, 2005

This is great, even better than the 1.0 releases. All of my extensions worked thanks to a little preparation I did after the RC1 release.

It allows you to open as a tab within Firefox. I believe this thing has a lot of potential, some of you should check it out.

GoodThings2Life

GoodThings2Life reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 10, 2005

Very impressed by the 1.5 releases. For the 1.0's I was content with using Firefox for development testing and as a tinkertoy, but with the improvements in 1.5, I have finally begun using it full time. The improvements in tabs and image-handling (allow/block per site) are wonerful in their own right, but just the level of support it has for web standards (compared to Opera, for instance) is outstanding.

I only use 2 extensions-- Fasterfox (the need for which is evidence alone that Firefox, sad to say, isn't always the fastest horse on the track), and IE View for those truly stubborn websites that use IE-centric coding.

I only use 3 plugins-- Acrobat, Flash, and Shockwave.

I truly have a satisfying, worry-free browsing experience these days.

Yes it's true... I'm a Microsoft junkie, but Firefox is my default browser, and I'm proud of that.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 10, 2005

christoofar, I'm not lambasting FF for its high memory use, only pointing it out. It's still my browser of choice. Maxthon does use far less memory. That's a fact.

Indeed, the memory usage is disconcertingly high with Firefox, no matter the page content open. Just run some comparisons with Maxthon and you'll see a huge difference. Firefox is a memory pig!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 10, 2005

Great improvements over RC1 in my singular testing.

Sabz

Sabz reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 10, 2005

Great Browser, But there is No official RC2 out as yet ?

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 10, 2005

The user below proves every point I've ever made on any post anywhere on the web about firefox fanboys refusing to accept anyone elses opinion about the browser. They whine and whine every time someone says something bad about their browser, or *GASP*, points out a bug. They resort to name calling and insults. They yell at users for spreading FUD but they, themselves, refuse to accept a differing opinion.

Firefox is a great browser (This version is too), but you are kidding yourself if you say it is the fastest. The page load times on my various systems lag behind that of other browsers. This version is no different. I still hope that with this release they finalize an API that allows you to keep extension compatibility between releases. The instant back/forward, although not designed by mozilla (but who truely cares?), is great. Its memory usage is another big drawback. I dont like having a browser use 140MB of memory for 14 tabs (which other browsers can handle at about 40MB for the same sites). A good browser, but it still needs some coding fixes. Perhaps in 2.0 or 3.0 we will see this blossom into full maturity. Great start thou!

some guy

some guy reviewed v1.5 RC2 on Nov 10, 2005

Reckessie STFU!
use your AOL browser and get back to surffing, some hillary Duff.

No Beer For You

No Beer For You reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 9, 2005

Much improved over the two previous beta releases. No errors or crashes since install a week ago.
Tabbed browsing rocks!

fourte3n

fourte3n reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 8, 2005

Love it... never build a pc without installing it and teaching its benifits. Also after 1 year of using my new laptop. not ONE bit of spyware has gotten through!

star17

star17 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 5, 2005

"Aggressive and obnoxious fan base which terrorizes people who don't use Firefox"

LOL...download me lest ye perish in Active X...

It's a browser, not Al-Queda.

betasun

betasun reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 4, 2005

it does not load(open) when i click desktop Icon,ofcourse it loaded a few times before ,otherwise its fast ,has some good plugins and the GUI is clean .

Reckessie

Reckessie reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 3, 2005

I was wary of this program because of the hype, and it seems that I was right...

Pros:
- Easy to use
- Nice tabbed browsing

Cons:
- Bloated
- Slow
- Crashes all the time
- Lack of cool features, nothing real to offer compared to IE
- Extensions are buggy and feel like an afterthought
- Didn't live up to the security claims (still has open security holes)
- Aggressive and obnoxious fan base which terrorizes people who don't use Firefox

Yes, the last point is actually important to me. The Firefox fan base has a terrible reputation, and rightly so.

Let's hope this product matures a bit, and its users too...

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 3, 2005

To each their own I guess.. I have *never* had a problem with Firefox that I personally didn't bring on myself by either adding extensions (and not backing up first) or something else stupid..

The browser is lightning fast (even w/out FasterFox or Firetune, etc).. ALL extensions I use work.. either they have been updated for the new version or that nighly extensions thing works wonders..

Firefox has been my browser of choice since its last name.. escapes me at the moment..

Arbiter1

Arbiter1 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 3, 2005

Yeah I saw httpd.confused talking about spyware in Firefox, but Im not sure I believe him... But I can't be too careful so I installed some anti spyware things.

Too bad Firefox is so slow and bloated as it's otherwise a quite decent looking IE alternative. It is also sadly unstable and prone to virus infections.

Maybe it will look better when 2.0 is released, but right now there are better browsers out there. Try out the excellent Maxthon which is much safer and more compatible than Firefox.

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

My theme doesn't work but that is not a browser problem. I believe there is no finer browser than Firefox as a dialup user(through no choice of my own) and it is continuing to be the fastest yet for my access speed (28.8K connect speed). I am rural so I can only speak for my own experiences (IE6, Opera and Firefox).

stratmancj

stratmancj reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

hey Orbitration:

if u want to know what is different in any application, i suggest checking out the changelog or release notes:
http://www.mozilla.org/p...refox/releases/1.5.html

there are lots of great updates in 1.5 such as autoupdate, privacy updates, the ability to move tabs and more.

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

After reviewing the changes, I still deem this version Not Ready for Prime Time until the extensions work.
I do like the possible 1/2 meg update to FF, but then again, broadband makes pretty much any size moot.
Not one for giving much personal info over the web, as well as firewall, anti-spy stuff, etc, the privacy features don't mean all that much to my personal web experience.
When 1.5 attains the up-front functionality of 1.07 and its extensions, I'll try it again.

I generally don't give a 5 rating to something unless it deserves it by perfection.

borreo

borreo reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

Wonderful.
And being open source grants you that it is free from all kinds of spyware, ads etc.

pyridox

pyridox reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

Sorry "Richiez", you were sadly mis-informed. On the contrary, Firefox blocks the installations of adware/spyware. It makes surfing a lot safer.

SG1969

SG1969 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

firefox does not contain any spyware, AFAIK

plus, it's open source, so if there was, i'm sure someone would have reported it.

httpd.confused, do you have any proof????

The MAZZTer

The MAZZTer reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

Firefox does not have spyware. Some people, however, will believe ANYTHING they hear and I suppose that will never change.

Firefox has changed the way I used the Internet. If that doesn't deserve a 5 I don't know what does.

dejavu

dejavu reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

Mozilla 1.5 is Realease Candidate. Under construction. Some extensions don't work yet.
Firefox with Spyware? Strange! I never had this problem!

Richiez

Richiez reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

Someone called httpd.confused on this site informed me that Firefox has spyware?!?

No thanks :(

niti

niti reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

I am using pc for ten years and it is best browser that I use in my life.

Xilon

Xilon reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 2, 2005

The previous RC1 that was released here was a knightly build. The release of the RC was delayed as posted on their official site.

As for themes and extensions being broken or not working with the new version, no s***! It's not uncommen for new versions of programs to have compatability issues with older 3rd party plugins etc. Any program that changes its SDK or any part of the core which deals with such things will have compatability issues. This is definitely NOT a reason to down rate the program. It's not Mozilla's fault extenions don't work, it's the extention's developers because they are the ones that creates the exteneion for an older version and it is up to THEM to update them.

As for teh release I think it's great and it really does raise the standards for all browsers. I love the new SVG compatability (apparently Opera's doesn't work :|, at least not the example provided on the firefox site) and it is a lot faster in rendering aswell. Once again, great job Mozilla :)

rcglidden

rcglidden reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Tried the last Firefox Beta -

Extentions wouldn't work, skins were no longer compatable, etc. AND loading pages took too long.

I think this browser is moving in the wrong direction.

Opera - Now THERE is a nice browser.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

As much as I like Opera and Maxthon, I find myself drifting back toward Firefox. This RC is sweet.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Isn't this the same RC1 from last month? Still great.

EDIT: Yeah it is. The Website states that RC1 came out on Oct 6th. I am not to happy with the way it renders the blocked frames and how it shows large blank spots where as Firefox 1.0.* didn't.

captainpete

captainpete reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Yeah I already had this one installed...not sure where I got it from then. I haven't had any problems with it and all my extensions work fine.

googun

googun reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

It gets 5 stars for being an excellent browser but, as another reviewer has mentioned, why is every new build incompatible with all the extensions? It is very annoying to know that every time I install a new build of this thing, all my extensions die!

JonathanDoe

JonathanDoe reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

"By the way, this very web page is grossly misaligned in RC1."
Yeah that happened to me too, then I tried it in 1.0.7 and the same thing happened. At the moment though, it's rendering clearly. I suppose I just needed to clear my cache.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

This puppy I thought I'd try out. I think they have a LOT of work to do still for upgrading Firefox 1.0.x users. I backed everything up, then I installed, it wouldn't work, even in safe mode. I had to uninstall, then delete program files\mozilla firefox, then reinstall. It disabled almost all of my themes\extensions. It lost my tab preferences, also.

Unless you don't mind work, I'd avoid this. the version listed is 20051025, so it's almost a week old.

Apparently the SVG support ain't working right too, which was much touted...

DDawg

DDawg reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Use Nightly Tester Tools to force the extension to load
http://users.blueprintit...ox/buildid/nightly.html

capandjudy

capandjudy reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

I had to go out on the Internet to find extension up dates. Searching for updates through the extension manager will often say that there are "no updates available" when in fact there are. By the way, this very web page is grossly misaligned in RC1.

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Not entirely sure this is RC1 because it isn't on the home pages yet but it's still great. All of my extensions works:
Adblock Plus 0.5.10
Adblock Filter.G Updater 0.2.6
All-In-One Sidebar 0.5.6
Gmail Notifier 0.5.2.1
MR Tech Local Install 4.0
PDF Download 0.5.2.1
Tab Clicking Options 0.6.1
Tab Mix Plus 0.2.5.2

AntiochMedia

AntiochMedia reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

The only feature I'd love to see implemented (non-extension) is the ability to dynamically resize the website (which I liked on Opera). Opera's instant-back and dynamic resizing features were the only things I really loved about Opera.

I'm not 100% convinced that FFRC1 should be on BetaNews yet since from all indications that I've seen, this is a nightly build of RC1, not a release of RC1.

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Yikes, no one destroys extensions like Firefox. God, that crap gets old.

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Thumbs up from me! =D

These are the extensions that I use with Firefox and are working with RC1:

>CustomiseGoogle 0.34
>Tabbrowser Preferences 1.2.8.6
>IE View 1.2.7
>StumbleUpon 2.04
>Download Statusbar 0.9.4
>Image Zoom 0.1.9.20050928
>Fasterfox 0.7.9
>Autohide 0.9.9

lettsbs@yahoo.com

lettsbs@yahoo.com reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

This release is not compatable with many of the extensions that worked yesterday on Beta 2, including Roboform. i recommend caution on converting at this time.

guti

guti reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Nice browser, but still prefer Opera.

BTW, Instant back, was available in Opera since about 2 years ago.

Firefox is great for its scalability with 3rd party extensions.

EarlyMorningHours

EarlyMorningHours reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

I used Firefox for about a year when for a short time I was forced to use my cell phone (Edge enabled so it wasn't all bad) for net access from home. Even after my broadband came back, I continued to use Firefox. But there were always a ton of things that really annoyed me about it. Well once I tried Maxthon, there was no going back. I keep trying the new Firefox builds to see if they've ripped off any of the good ideas from Maxthon, but still they haven't.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

"This release is not compatable with many of the extensions that worked yesterday on Beta 2, including Roboform. i recommend caution on converting at this time."
and then u give it a poor voting, what a bull s***.. Read the info fool, or stop downloading betas !

ArKay74

ArKay74 reviewed v1.5 RC1 on Nov 1, 2005

Are those official? On the Firefox homepage the latest beta download is 1.5 beta 2, no talk of rc1-candidate or rc1.

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 28, 2005

This is not yet the RC1 ! Look at www.mozillazine.org :
Wednesday October 26th, 2005
Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 1 Test Build is essentially release candidate of the release candidate. Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 1 Now Due on November 1st

Well, I like firefox and I use it with :
CookieCuller https://addons.mozilla.o...ions/moreinfo.php?id=82
http://cookieculler.mozdev.org

NoScript
https://addons.mozilla.o...ons/moreinfo.php?id=722
http://www.noscript.net

IE View
https://addons.mozilla.o...ions/moreinfo.php?id=35
http://ieview.mozdev.org

ScrapBook
https://addons.mozilla.o...ons/moreinfo.php?id=427
http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook

A modified userContent.css :
http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/adblock

A modified hosts file :
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

ye110mann

ye110mann reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 28, 2005

I refuse to use a browser without Adblock. DictionarySearch is invaluable also.
I love how I can allow only certain cookies in my allow list.
There may be faster and more standards compliant browsers but that doesn't outweigh all these little conveniences that add up to make Firefox the browser to beat.

Sabz

Sabz reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 28, 2005

Excellent Browser, my second choice of Browsers would have to be Opera, Firefox is fast for me, an downloada an Extensions an themes are Great, bear in mind, Opera 8.50 Just came out not long ago, now there already releasing 9, mostly with Bug Fix's an a few new Features.

Pegusis2

Pegusis2 reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

I like most of the web browsers out there... but for some strange reason my #1 browser is still IE. It's fun to play around with the graphics with the different skins but I still come back to IE, I installed a little program that I found about 6 years ago that allows me to change the background of my IE tool bar... so that's enough for me.

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

"if you like playing with extensions every time you get an update.... Personally the latest free v of Opera does everything I need with voice capabilities as well"

Haha, Opera's voice capabilities are gimmicky at best. I can't stand hearing the simulated 'man' and 'woman' voice when I want Opera to read me my email...In fact, the feature just sucks. I'd rather just click 'go' or hit 'enter'.

Firefox may not have more horsepower but it definitely renders better on a dial up connection. And when equipped with Fasterfox, it's just the perfect choice for me.

Firefox 1.5 has definitely improved its speed, and finally as a dial up user, i'm satsified. Now bring on 2.0 and give us some sweet features :-D

1uk3

1uk3 reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

It's a great browser and I love it! The best thing about Firefox is the ability to customise it I think.

I'd consider switching to Opera if I could customise it in the same way as I can Firefox.

Opera is faster than Firefox.

Firefox is more customisable than Opera.

I'm sticking with Firefox for now. :)

birkis

birkis reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

slushdot wrote:
"The one last thing i miss from FF is being able to bookmark all the currently-open tabs into one folder. I just wish Opera had that, it would be almost perfect then."

Wouldn't sessions (File -> Sessions) solve this for you?

Ulmo

Ulmo reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

This and Opera are the bests.
FF have my preference because he has A LOT of extensions.
Web Developper ? You MUST have it.

anomoly

anomoly reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

if you like playing with extensions every time you get an update.... Personally the latest free v of Opera does everything I need with voice capabilities as well

lordnaastik

lordnaastik reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

Simply the best

SamiChang

SamiChang reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

This is great!!!

slushdot

slushdot reviewed v1.5 RC1 Candidate on Oct 27, 2005

I want to go back to FF after Opera, but i find that i can't, because Opera does everything i need, requires a lot less memory and since the last release has become even more standards-compliant.

The one last thing i miss from FF is being able to bookmark all the currently-open tabs into one folder. I just wish Opera had that, it would be almost perfect then.

(Thanks birkis! :))

DDanDD

DDanDD reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 19, 2005

Firefox is just the best.
I cant remember the old days in IE.

One Loop

One Loop reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 12, 2005

Firefox is a great browser in terms of a simple interface and good rendering out of the box. There's a few usability issues that I have with it that are my own personal problem, but it's still a good browser. I only use it as a secondary browser, primarily for ensuring my code is done properly, but I like how you can now clear the cache very easily to prevent any accidental loading from the cache without going into preferences. I'm not crazy about extentions though.. some don't work how you'd expect them to and there's always the risk of someone developing a malicious extention. I'd prefer if they packaged more to start with.

Oh, and Firefox easily has the best JavaScript console of any browser. Opera's is OK, but vague and IE's is absolutely useless.

mattnotley2004

mattnotley2004 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 10, 2005

Go Firefox!
Was hard to switching to Firefox, since I was a very keen IE user... but now that I've been using Firefox for a bit, impossible for me to switch back.

Stefu

Stefu reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 8, 2005

Who needs Oprah:P anyway!!! Firefox was free before Opera and a lot better with extensions than Oprah :)

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 8, 2005

Opera has it all....now its free..FireFlop is on its deathbed...no built in mail client, and multitudes of extensions required for simple operations....waste of time now that Opera is FREE....

GimieGimieGimie

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 8, 2005

This release is far better then v1.06 for my uses.

All the pages i visit render excellent and render fast, just as fast as IE does them in my opinion.

Firefox appears to be getting better and better with each new release, better context menu's, better navigation (bookmark menu especially) and loading times are getting faster, but like previous users have mentioned already, firefox has a big program with memory allocation.

This must be fixed ASAP and should be their #1 concern.

Once the memory hog problem is fixed, firefox will be a very stable, very secure internet browser, which is what we all want, regardless of whose names on top of the code.

InShadows

InShadows reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 8, 2005

MurphyB2005,

Download the extension - Nightly Tester Tools. This will force the extension to work in the current browser. Might not work all the time but it's worth a try. I haven't had a problem with it and all my extensions work.

dreadlox

dreadlox reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 8, 2005

Still crashes on some pages, for instance http://img.kamrat.com/test/fluber.htm

Still can't follow links with swedish characters in, for instance http://www.kamrat.com/ka...view&usr=å123 (the 'å' will be converted to %C3%A5 where it should be %A5)

supermom1000

supermom1000 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

All I can say is that it just keeps on getting better with every release!

dockersfan

dockersfan reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

hmmm have moved away from firefox to opera 8.5 which seems to be less memory entensive and have and inbuilt mail client and voice capabilities

Murphy71984

Murphy71984 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

Hmm...I love Firefox and all but I wish it would quit breaking many if not ALL of my extensions!! UGH! Back to Avant until they upgrade extensions...

Shadowkahn

Shadowkahn reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

I've been updating with the nightly builds from the previous 1.5 Beta, and everything seems to be going rather well so far with the latest Beta 2 release. There are still a few issues with some java scripts - mainly one that is used for editing a website I deal with a few days a week, submenues that depend on the java script command just don't render etc.

Flash though seems to be working just fine for me, you might want to report the websites you visit as broken to Mozilla some guy - sounds like an issue they would be interested in clearing up when they finally release this version of Firefox. Simply click the Help button and choose Report Broken Website when you visit the website that has the issues. Also check out the Java Console to see if that is the real source of your problems.

Really looking forward to this being released in its final form.

some guy

some guy reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

flash is not seen anymore on websites i visit, tryed to reinstall flash. nogo.The weather plugin no longer works either:(

eviljolly

eviljolly reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

Very good, still has a few bugs to be fixed, but page rendering is definitely a little faster.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

Looking better all the time. I agree though (to a degree) with the poster who said new features are for alphas. It's fairly common for small new bits to get into betas, but obviously anything big should have been locked out by the time you start beta testing. The use of the 'RC' thing with betas seems to me a bit of an unfortunate choice of terms. I think most people think of a 'RC' as something in the final stages of beta testing, and almost ready for final release.

CyberDog

CyberDog reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

I agree and sympathize wholly with Metshrine.

I too have seens severe memory consumption issues with even the "final" releases. Our company has a web app that's simple graphics html and javascript, and you wouldnt believe what firefox will do to your RAM usage after running it for half an hour. Having to restart my browser continually is inexcusable for someone whose work is web-based.

I've also had similar experiences with mozilla support. The only way to get them to pay attention to a bug is to get it on the front page of Secunia. I've also seen them take bugs that are "blocking" a given release and just push them back indefinitely. The whole point of blocking means the product shouldn't be released with this issue, but they just don't care. And heaven forbid one suggest a feature they didn't think of themselves, without first donning a flame-retardant. It doesn't matter if it's a feature that even the most obscure browsers already have, if it's not in that particular developer's plan for world domination it's never going to happen.

This review may sound harsh, but I'm not anti FF. In fact, I'm a big fan of open source, and have converted many friends and co-workers to alternative browsers. The fact remains there are serious issues that need to be addressed, and I have to question the ability of some of the forces involved to actually fix these problems in a realistic timeframe. It's not that they can't...I just don't know if they care.

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

i disagree. alphas are when new features should be added. betas should be for banging out bugs. when you start talking about beta x3-12 rc it's just confusing. rc canidates should be reserved for "if this code has no bugs then we'll push out the final" not "if this code has no bugs then we'll push out the final of this particular beta"

k3of4

k3of4 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 on Oct 7, 2005

I'm pretty much a major fan of firefox.. always have been. 2 things personally annoy me though: each little bump for security fixes seems to make the browser more "glitchy". Not major bugs but little annoying ones. Perhaps I should try running it clean (without extensions) to see if the quirks continue. And 2 -- the practice (not just of firefox) of releasing RC's of betas. That is totally ridiculous, betas of betas? The nightly builds are available all the time. They should just stick to releasing actual betas, or RC only final releases.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 7, 2005

very good update from mozilla,keep up good work,no probs here and nice few improvements!

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

I say they've added several improvements over 1.07, though I had the same problem w/ compatibility issues using extensions I like.. or I should say had.. I found the following, and have had no issues since (well in the last 15mins I should say, since I installed RC2 from 1.07, but I was able to make every extensions compatible.

I would strongly recommend giving it a try. The guy that created this knows what he's doing:

http://users.blueprintit...ox/buildid/nightly.html

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

My preferred browser but still doesn't work 100% so I'll have to give it 3 points and continue to use Firefox 1.0.7.

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

This browser isn't the fastest, but it's definitely the most configurable due to the large party of applications and the fact it's open source. This beta covers a lot of issues i've had with Firefox in the past.

Pros:

+ Clean, swift automatic updating: Being on a dial up connection, this is essential to keeping downloads minimal, and your protection top notch. We all know how fast Firefox issues patches, and this feature will certaintly give me a piece of mind.

+ It's actually faster at rendering web pages: The gecko engine has be refined and tweaked to load pages a bit faster for me. It almost rivals IE's engine, but hasn't quite gotten there. Maybe in 2.0.

Cons.

- Memory usage needs to slim down, hopefully Mozilla can trim some of that off come release
time.

- Not as many features for the length of time in development. But you have to figure that making Mozilla a 'patch' browser took a lot of work.

Other complaints like the lack of extensions is easily admissable considering this is a beta, and the extensions happen to be created by third party developers. So if you're going to whine about that, whine to the people who are slow to update their extensions. Not Mozilla themselves. And so what if it crashes? You guys aren't reviewing released products here. You are reviewing a product for a company that WANTS you to find crashes, and TELL them so they can make your experience better. This is a company that is offering you a free, secure browser after all.

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Not to bash Opera but the rendering engine bugs the F#*# out of me. It renders like it's on cyber crack. I don't understand how it works, but it seems so unsynchronized and inneffecient. They'd do themselves a lot better if they cleaned that up.

Domingo

Domingo reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Pretty solid for a beta...and seems to have fixed glitch that if you "overuse" tabs (5-6 at a time and use them to open more), often times the "open this page in a new tab" function seemed to do nothing.
This was in RC1, and it looks like it's now gone so far.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Time to expand, been using this all morning, and it still has the problem that the 1.07 series had with memory consumption. To those of you who will say "But its a beta, its expected", does that mean the 1.0 series was a beta too? I would experience over 150MB of memory usage on 14 sites that both opera, maxthon, and konqueror used around 40-50. Memory usage problems are not something new to firefox, they have been there since before the 1.0 release and have been there in every final release so I am not going to accept the excuse that this is beta software. Leaving a browser open all night should not cause its memory usage to jump 45MB (Yes, it went from using 95MB when I went to sleep to 140MB when I woke up, please explain why this and every prior release has done this?). I have reported it numerous times on bugzilla and the firefox irc channel and been flamed or told (its being worked on). But how long is too long to fix memory leak and usage problems?

Anyways, after that major complain, the browser does add some nice new enhancements. The ability to drag/drop tabs properly is a great thing to finally have incorporated into the browser without requiring extensions. Now they need to add stuff like proper tabbed browsing extensions, and proper tab clicking options (which are non-existent now). I have yet to be able to test out the streamlined product upgrades, perhaps after the final.

The browser is a good browser, but I cant agree with anyone who says its the fastest. In my testing, opera is far faster. Does that mean I use opera as my primary? No, the reason being is that opera doesnt support the use of extensions and the opera community is highly against this (you will be flamed for asking on their forums, believe me, its happened time and time again). Am I saying the firefox community is any better? No, I've been flamed on their forums many many times and on their irc channel for suggestions that the contributors and fan's dont seem to think is a good idea. I respect that they have an opinion to, but if someone posts a criticism, there is no reason to get defensive about it and insult someone. Dont get upset when someone points out a shortcoming of the browser (that is something ALL browser fan boys, not just firefox, not just opera, not just IE, have). Anyways, firefox is my primary browser, and will be for some time due to the way other browsers regard extensions, but that doesnt mean it is perfect (in fact its far from it and leaves alot to be desired in the speed and memory usage department). But I am not going to rate this lower than a 3 because there are a lot of improvements made in this version that make it a lot better than 1.0.7. Good job mozilla, hopefully by 2.0 we will have many of these issues sorted out.

midfingr

midfingr reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

No problems here so far. Seems to work well. Didn't notice anything unusual as far as memory is concerned.
Pages load very quick. Most of my extensions and themes work, with a couple of tweaks and some even had updates - cool.
My worst problem is that I like all browsers :\ Firefox, IE, Opera, and variants. But if I had to choose one, it would be Firefox. Nice beta release.

dreadlox

dreadlox reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Hmmm - FireFox STILL totally crashes on certain web-pages with incorrect html. I really do not think that a web browser should lock up in ANY situation...

I have reported this web page to FireFox many times now: http://img.kamrat.com/test/fluber.htm

This page has made FireFox crash at least since version 1.0.5

kise

kise reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Couldn't find no stack overrun at my PC.
This IS the fastest browser, Avant is IE COM object build, please, IE is not faster then FF.. and Opera is neither..

RC2 is faster then RC1. Hail.

Maximus-Sniper

Maximus-Sniper reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Tuesday October 4th, 2005

Tree Locked Down for Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Beta 2

At 11:59pm Pacific Daylight Time (UTC -0700) on Monday, the Mozilla development tree was locked down in preparation for the release of Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Beta 2 (also known as the 1.8 Beta 5 milestone). This means that no more checkins will be accepted for inclusion in the second Firefox 1.5 beta, which is set for release on Wednesday.

The lockdown will be lifted after 1.5 Beta 2 comes out but the 1.8 branch will remain frozen, with all checkins requiring the prior approval of the branch drivers team. There are likely to be several release candidates made available before the final release of Firefox 1.5 in November or December of this year.

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Wednesday October 5th, 2005

Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 Beta 2 Release Candidates

The Mozilla Quality weblog has announced the availability of Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 Beta 2 release candidates. Testers are asked to check that they can successfully log in to webmail accounts and finance/banking sites, ensure that extensions and themes can be installed correctly and verify that the software update feature works.

Update: Some newer 1.5 Beta 2 release candidates are now available.

http://weblogs.mozillazi...ndidate_builds_ava.html

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

"and took up well over 100 megs of ram,"
Depending on the sites you have open, windows will allocate the needed ram for the program.

For instance right now I have 6 tabs open in firefox and opera to my 6 most commonly opened sites. Firefox is using 39 megs, opera is using 67. I have three extensions installed in firefox, including adblock, and none in opera.

None of this bothers me. I do like operas ability to load pages in the history instantly, which firefox is planning for soon. I can't live without adblock, however, so firefox it is.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

High memory usage? Buggy? Hmmm. Guess that is why this program is a beta, essentially. At least the folks at Mozilla are trying to improve their product while Micro$oft has "relaxed" on trying to make IE any more secure. Opera removed the ads and stuff so they could compete with IE and Firefox. Go ahead and use them if you desire. Firefox is here to stay, and can only get better.

chinch

chinch reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

now is it just me once again, or is this beta not even showing up on the official site? the firefox site still says RC1.. even the link to the page in the panel to the top right takes you to a page that says 1.5 RC1. what am i missing here?

one constructive thing, i'll say that 1.5 *appears* to run faster and more reliable, but i'm too far converted to opera to switch back. i'm sure adding in a couple of plugins to 1.5 it'll be taking up 400megs of RAM and crashing every 15 minutes. opera is just so much better.. and FREE now. you just can't beat that.

might want to read this thread before deciding to upgrade to another beta: http://www.mozillazine.o...kback.html?article=7490

ModderXManiac

ModderXManiac reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Has serious memory dump issues. Aparently it was running overnight, not shown in the taskbar, and took up well over 100 megs of ram, not much of a problem for me since I have 3 gigs in this compy, but its down right inconvinient!

Requires crap loads of plugins to use efficiently, buggy,unstable, and has more security risks than IE patched with Avant and Maxthon!

This release is very buggy, it breaks unicode!

I'm sticking with Opera and Avant.

Has nothing on Opera and Avant.

BadIronTree

BadIronTree reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

opera is way better and faster...
and firefox must stop stealing opers ideas and make some of their own

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

I'm currently using SeaMonkey as my default browser. It's faster than Firefox and I don't have to play games with extensions.

CyberHobo

CyberHobo reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Consumes a huge amount of memory.

sn1p34

sn1p34 reviewed v1.5 Beta 2 RC on Oct 6, 2005

Firefox is many things but it is defiantly not the fastest browser on earth, Avant and Maxathon are defiantly faster.

Anyways....
Heres a change log for anyone that has been looking for one

* Automated update to streamline product upgrades.
* Faster browser navigation.
* Drag and drop for browser tabs.
* Improvements to popup blocking.
* Clear Private Data feature.
* Answers.com added to search engine list.
* Descriptive error pages, redesigned options menu, and RSS discovery.
* Better accessibility support.
* Report a broken Web site wizard.
* Better support for Mac OS X.

kise

kise reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 22, 2005

Oh Man!

The Browser keeps loaded classes (with images etc) into memory and ignores to even reload from cache while navigating in pages.. this is soo smut!!

The Fastest Browser (for win) on Earth!

Sorry Opera ..

skalynuik

skalynuik reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 15, 2005

I have been using Firefox and Thunderbird since Mozilla developed them seperatly from their suite, in the past some betas have crashed, lost profiles, and e-mails. But this latest beta 1 of v1.5 rocks both the Firefox and Thunderbird, to be safe I backed up both profiles using BackUpFox then installed, surfing is now faster and emails arrive more smoothly. I use a P4 2.4gHz 1gig RAM with WinXP SP2. No problems yet after 24 hours of use, after updating from v1.06 of both.

Clements

Clements reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 12, 2005

Incredible browser. Made my internet experience much more enjoyable.

lmr0x

lmr0x reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 12, 2005

Best ever... It keeps getting better and better.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 10, 2005

Pretty decent for a beta. Crashed once, firefox.exe process will sometimes not close (just like 1.06) and doesn't seem that noticeably faster than 1.06 and earlier.

anti00Zero

anti00Zero reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 10, 2005

great version.

some problem with the sitestyle on some site and the new popupblocker is great.
But all in all this version is a good step to a better firefox.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 10, 2005

Whoever said this was the fastest browser on earth hasn't tried Seamonkey. It may be an alpha, but it is much faster than Firefox.

lordrohith

lordrohith reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

This is awesome ppl!
It has so much customization.Please try it!

Nesavaldzinaamais

Nesavaldzinaamais reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Doesn't work on function like that:
a href="#" onclick="open('show_img.php?11494','_blank','width=100,height=100,none,scrollbars=auto')"
New window on this function opens with incorrect size.

Otherwise, quick back-forward is really cool.

jpmccord

jpmccord reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

I still prefer IE for basic web browsing, but to use IE carelessly over a variety of questionable web sites requires spyware blockers and antivirus programs to be installed and running full-time. Of course, they will be anyway, but Firefox doesn't require them, because Firefox's features aren't integrated into the operating system and doesn't come with the same security issues. That said, I still prefer IE, but Firefox is catching up quickly. Firefox is all I use at work!

My only complaint right now: it needs to be easier to add and remove search engines from Firefox's search engine box, and it shouldn't overwrite my customizations to it every time I install a new version!

Whether you love or hate IE, Firefox still does everything it's supposed to do and much more, and easily and quickly. Five stars all the way.

CrimsonReLLiK

CrimsonReLLiK reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Blah... I have tried and used Firefox for quite some time. I still don't see it being anything other than just a tad faster at viewing webpages. I had to install numerous plugins to even get it close to my favorite IE-Based broswer, Slimbrowser. Even at that, it still has too many annoyances with all the plugins. Sure, if u have a crappy computer or dial-up, FF may be for you. But I can't recommend this to anyone I know. All of my friends have switched back.
I had hoped to see goodness come from the new version... but not enough to swing me back.

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

As a dialup user (typically 28.8 connections), I can definitely say Firefox is faster than IE6 or Opera 8 (registered user). I was impressed that this Beta actually accepted my exisiting 1.06 profile, extensions and theme. Note: There is a new security flaw posted at www.secunia.com regarding Firefox (critical).

For those who want to try a very good Freeware webfilter/ad blocker try out Proxomitron (add it to your startup folder). It acts as a proxy filter so it universally usable on any browser.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Firefox is and has always been a great browser. Its speed isnt why I use it because to tell you the truth, I dont feel it is the fastest. Both IE and opera render pages faster and function faster (with less memory usage) than firefox (to include this beta build) does. But firefox allows for far more customizability than both opera and IE. I just hate it when people whine about extensions not working (like adblock. This is why, when it comes to features like that, I use tools that dont have a version or browser dependency (like ad muncher, which works on any http enabled application, people just refuse to accept that a commercial app can be better than their freeware application. I really wish that werent the case, because ad block leaves alot to be desired, and ad muncher has a DEFAULT SERVER SUPPLIED list (as opposed to adblock where you have to hunt for the list you want to use) that is updated at least 4 times per week))). This version has issues with some of the other extensions that I have that arent available in a standalone application. It also has stability issues when viewing certain pages.

For me, this will always be a good browser and they have done a good job enhancing it. But for my browser of CHOICE, it will be opera once they enable 3rd party tools such as roboform to integrate their toolbars and functionality into the browser.

THILE

THILE reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

The number 1 browser on earth, IMO.

This new beta runs perfect on my machine.
Thank you very much mozilla, for some nice fixes in this release.

Finally I can use scroll wheel in when css overflow is on.

nezermundy

nezermundy reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

I have been testing it since Deer Park Alpha 1 and seen it come through into what it is now.

The problems below never even saw on alpha 1.

SG1969

SG1969 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

very good, well been using deer park for a while now anyway, but no problems here with beta 1

don't know why you have that problems with pages locking up man.

ServerMechanic

ServerMechanic reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Downloaded it from here about 10 minutes ago (9:20am 9/10/05)

Removed Firefox 1.06, removed old directory, and old profile folder in Documents and Settings.

Installed 1.5 Beta.

Launched 1.5 Beta and went to http://mail.yahoo.com. The paged locked up. Opened a new tab to come to http://www.betanews.com. That tab locked up. Tryed to open a new tab. Entire browser locked up and stopped responding.

Closed firefox.exe via Task Manager and restarted Firefox. Same song. Locked up on every site I tried to open.

Just removed it and I am posting this review from Opera 8.02.

For the record: I'm running a Dell D600 Latitude, 1.3GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM, Windows XP w/SP2.

Went to uninstall Firefox Beta 1.5 and it is listed in Add/Remove Programs as Firefox 1.4.

Great.

Back to 1.06 for me :)

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

thanks for the "real" beta release

husky87

husky87 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

great beta release, everything working nicely here :D sure has come along way.

Mystenes

Mystenes reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

AdBlock doesn't work with this version.

Aires

Aires reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Drag and drop reordering for browser tabs - Good!

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Finally some speed, without having to "tweak" the entire registry, but still a long way to go.

matt2971

matt2971 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Well, looks great, but unfortunately it disabled all my extensions so I had to revert to 1.0.6. I guess those that say they are compatible with Deerpark (the alphas) are not gonna be compatible with the Beta, so I'll need to wait for updates to all my extensions.

cees2000

cees2000 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

and it sill can't do a decent refresh. When clicking on 'home' it should go back to all my standard webpages, refresh and open them. But instead they STILL are opened as EXTRA tabs. Which sucks. Why is it that Netscape and Mozilla 1.7 can handle this perfectly and Firefox still makes a mess out of this?

pafinator11

pafinator11 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Excellent! Finally the browser is quicker than the rest. Now security doesnt have any drawbacks! (at least not as many) I hated having to load pages over and over when pressing the back button. Now theres no problems. I was just about to switch to k-meleon and this definately changed my mind. Way to go mozilla!

peterj1978

peterj1978 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

I was using 1.0.6 uninstalled it and installed Deerpark alpha 1 first then uninstalled that and in with alpha 2, now out with that and in with this all worked without a hitch, feels alot smoother than older versions.

Wildharp

Wildharp reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

I am just an enduser with no development knowledge - but this thing blisters. Everything is improved. Will be a world beater

Tony Dodd

Tony Dodd reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

sn0wflake if you have adblock installed, disable it as has been causing some of the problems you are experiencing.
Good stable browser! Faster to load and no crashes so far...

scriptee

scriptee reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

The only two features that i had been wanting in this browser have finally arrived. You can not drag the tabs around, and there is an option to make all links that open a new window actually open a new tab instead ! :-) woo hoo !

Sabz

Sabz reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

the Best Browser i have ever used, it just Keeps getting Better an Better, keep up the Good Work

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 9, 2005

Looking good. It's a beta but it's progressing very nicely. ETA for final isn't until October at the earliest, but at this point they just have some fine tuning to do and get the extension authors up to date on the changes.
Amazing the speed differences. Keep stability as a paramount goal. I've seen FF 1.0.6 crash on a few sites lately and it's not been pretty.

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

I'm a big Firefox fan but I'll have to give this *beta* a rating of 3 because I'm having problems loading the http://spil.tv2.dk/ludo/ Java game. Streaming of video also causes problems. Try http://www.alldumb.com for example. I know this is a beta so consider this comment as a warning to others. Everything else works much better than the previous version. Much faster load times in *every* aspect, Slashdot renders correct, better frame handling, editing of bookmarks is easier, the new extension structure is genious, etc. When Java and streaming works again I'll give a five point rating.
My system configuration is Windows XP with Sun Java, both fully updated.

bufftbone

bufftbone reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

Downloaded fine. Installed without a hitch. Go to load it, NOPE! This did not load for me. I had to go back to version 1.0.6. I'll wait for another updated version before I try again. Firefox in general is the best and I'll use it as long as they make it!

bounty1990

bounty1990 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

Ths is a good beta being that i have used it for a hour now and i cant see any problems.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

Amendment to my previous review. I originally wasn't able to get the beta to launch. This time I uninstalled, removed the directory, and reinstalled. Voila. I wonder if the problems were caused by an earlier use of FireTune for Firefox on version 1.06? It runs fast now and, since this is a beta, I'm willing to put up with the lack of extensions and tabs for the interim.

coover

coover reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

I guess the release of 1.5 RC1 this AM didn't go so well because they released this version, 1.5 Beta 1 this PM. Two updates in just a few hours. Wow!!

But this could be considered something positive. They release a bad product and within a few hours, fix it. I'm not sure that Microsoft would have been able to do that.

However, I am a bit disappointed. After installation, I tried to go to my "home" page and instead it took me to "Firefox Start", a Google search page. I guess I will have to go into "Options" and re-enter the page I want to come up. It seems to me that 1.5 should have been able to use my previous configuration from 1.06, but it didn't.

But overall, the Browser looks pretty good so I'll give it a 4. It could be better so I'll continue to watch it's development, but in the meantime, continue to use a much better browser (at least now), Avant.

jessshaun

jessshaun reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

This has fixed SEVERAL bugs I had with 1.0x.

And... alot of extensions are *usable* you just have to edit install.rdf. But that doesn't mean that the extensions are compatible.

I don't like the last minute changes to the menus to make them "look better with XP Luna"... but that's what userchrome.css is for.

Bottom line, this release is only to show off the upcoming Firefox 1.5. This build is FAR superior to Firefox 1.0 IMHO.

ThePain

ThePain reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

Extension developers are told to wait for the RC1 to test and update their extensions version information. Which basilcy means that currently your extensions _are_not_supposed_to_ work. 1.5 has some realy nice features under the hood plus some very usefull UI revisions. I especialy like the autoupdater which even allows unexperienced users to keep their browser up-to-date.

NOTE: Even though it already has the name "Beta 1", nightly builds are NOT supposed to be used by anyone but people who actually know what they are doing and can cope with the lost of their profiles and/or extensions. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS NIGHLY BUILD. DO NOT SEND NIGHTLY BUILDS TO BETANEWS. DO NOT JUDGE ANY SOFTWARE BY ITS NIGHTLYS.

hurzx

hurzx reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

Since yesterday, Opera is free !!!

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

twosheds read the post directly below yours.

Colour

Colour reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

It works fine for me since I don't use any extensions.

The menus look slightly different and the control panel is completely revised. For the former, it'll take some time getting used to; for the latter, it's probably better that way. Though, I'm partial to the pre-1.5 style menu; it seemed to require less clicking.

One thing that bothers me is how the upgrade leaves all my options the same, except READDS search engines that I previously deleted. A minor inconvenience at most.

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 on Sep 8, 2005

This is nowhere near ready; disabled all but two of my 40+ extensions (many of the most popular included) and still has no proper uninstall feature. If I hadn't backed up my profile folder before installation, it would have been hard indeed. It gets a 1 not because the software is intrinsically bad but because the project developers are letting commercial pressures rush out hasty releases. I reckon (having tested DeerPark for many months)that Firefox 1.5 will be ready for public beta Xmas at earliest, Final Release Candidate maybe next Spring. Some things just won't yield to shortcuts.

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

It downloaded the right file for me. Note the majority of extensions are compatible with this release, but they need to be updated so that they say they are. I would install this extension:
http://users.blueprintit...ox/buildid/nightly.html

This gives you a "Make Compatible" option when right clicking on an incompatible extension under extensions manager.

heyupandy

heyupandy reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

personally this has worked perfect on my computer, the only problem i've noticed so far is that when i click the ' button at times it goes to the find on page toolbar at the bottom of the page which is annoying, but sorts itself out after bout 30 seconds if u keep closing the tool bar, apart from that this is the fastest i've noticed firefox be...keep up the good work guys :)

twosheds

twosheds reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

As of 9_09_05 00-36 AM, the above link downloads only Firefox 1.0.6. This should not have ended up in the 'downloads' section. Graded 3 because grading is irrelevant to post but Betanews don't let you skip it.

mfarmilo

mfarmilo reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

Please note that this is not the actual Beta 1, which has yet to be released. The Mozilla site mentions this release, which I guess you could refer to as a Release Candidate of the Beta. But it does also say the following :-

"It should be noted that Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 has not been released yet. Reviewers and bloggers are requested not to jump the gun."

eclipsingdivinity

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

There's really nothing wrong with this RC, but i'm stilled wondering (or is it just me) why page loading has taken a slight dip on my dial up? Deer Park was a speedy bugger, but this one runs strangely like Firefox 1.0+

But it's stable, and the update integration is more than enough to place itself a solid 4. But i'm hoping something dramatic will change during the final release of Beta 1 (speedwise?). But probably not.

heho

heho reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

Mozilla and Firefox deliver great things to the table. Been using it all day long with no problems what-so-ever.

In regards to:

"This is not the last version of Firefox 1.5 Beta 1.
Don't download. look this: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/";

Which was posted earlier, if they had read the article, they would have noticed that that blog was posted on yesterday on the 7th. Mozilla didn't release this version to the 8th. Read before you post.

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

Be smart and wait for the final. Most extensions won't work.

squirrel83

squirrel83 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

I dont think this is the RC, there are some serrious issues! Does not transfer the bookmarks and there is a big open spot at the bottome with code starting with >= in red lettering. . cant get rid of it! I will wait for the next release!

tremens

tremens reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

thats why it says RC dumba**

welcome to betanews, find problems and report them

"If the feedback doesn't turn up anything horrible in the next half day or so, we'll be in a great position to ship this beta. I'll have more updates on the beta release tomorrow."

**UPDATE**
Been using it all day at work, rock solid. All of you b****ing about a non-public beta release are all idiots. This is a release for testers, not public, so more than likely, there will be some problems. To the guy babbling about Microsoft and lack of organization within mozilla, you would have to be a PAYING member of MSDN to get early betas of their software. If they made this release more easily available, there would be thousands of idiots b****ing about this release, instead of the clueless hundreds that exist now.

"A beta version or beta release usually represents the first feature complete version of a computer program or other product, likely to be unstable but useful for demonstrating internally and to select customers. Some developers refer to this stage as a preview, as a technical preview (TP) or as an early access. Often, this stage begins when the developers announce a feature freeze on the product, indicating that no more features will be added to this version of the product, only bugs will be removed. Beta versions stand at an intermediate step in the full development cycle. Developers release them to a group of beta testers (or, sometimes, to the general public) for a user test. The testers report any bugs that they found, features they would like to see in the final version, etc.

When a beta becomes available to the general public it often becomes used almost as widely as the finished product (when developers subsequently complete that product). Usually developers of freeware or open-source betas release them to the general public while proprietary betas go to a relatively small group of testers. Indeed, in February 2005, ZDNet published an article about the recent phenomenon of a beta version often staying for years and being used as if it were in production-level [1]. It notes that Gmail and Google News, for example, have been in beta for a long time and is not expected to drop the beta status despite the fact that they have been widely used. Recipients of highly proprietary betas may have to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Since this is the second major stage in the development cycle, following the alpha stage, it is named after the Greek letter beta, the second letter in the Greek alphabet."

michperu

michperu reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

This is not the last version of Firefox 1.5 Beta 1.
Don't download. look this: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/

arossetti

arossetti reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

Ugh. They really screwed up the interface. My same bookmarks now are forced to scroll due to some funky font-spacing issues. Other menus are affected too. Give me back the old interface.

Performance wise, not much difference than 1.06 except that most extensions don't work yet.

fixed92

fixed92 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

so uh.. what did they change? and i read in the comments below that you cant use themes with v 1.5? i want to try it but without knowing whats new or changed how we beta test it? maybe i just didnt look hard enough to find out whats different.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

cant wait to get home and install..but, i will be back to edit w/ comments ;-)...

cheers!

Corvid

Corvid reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

You should all probably hold off on your reviews, as there's nothing to review yet.

"We haven't released 1.5 Beta 1 yet. Please don't jump the gun and blog or post reviews saying we have until we actually have. Thanks."

The link here on fileforum is for version 1.4

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

It pains me to do this, but Mozilla Firefox for Windows 1.5 Beta 1 RC gets a 1. I LOVE FF, but the rating is just for this beta.

I'm running Win XP w/SP2. FF v.1.06 was running fine. I installed the 1.5 beta and ... nothing. The installation seemed to go fine, but the program did not launch. I uninstalled everything, rebooted, reinstalled and still no go. Finally I uninstalled the beta, reinstalled version 1.06 and everything was back to normal.

Once the bugs are worked out I'm confident this will be a great release. And FF remains my primary browser.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

Seems to be working fine so far, but it still enjoys eating up memory. Just for fun I launched both Firefox and Opera side by side and opened this page. Firefox is using 54MB, while Opera is using 17MB. I was hoping this problem would be fixed by now but apparently it isn't. I do use Firefox as my browser but that's just ridiculous, there is no excuse for it, especially after this much time has gone by.

Corvid, if they haven't released it why does my About menu say Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Beta 1?

theheff

theheff reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

Wow, all I have to say is that this beta is FAST. A lot of improvements. All of my previous extension work with this beta, including AdBlock. The themes however, do not. This is good stuff!!

rijp

rijp reviewed v1.5 Beta 1 RC on Sep 8, 2005

This is why I have a problem with people that proclaim Microsoft is a monopoly or Microsoft doesn't listen to their people. I can see a download for Mozilla 1.5 beta on this site. So why is it, that when you go the official Mozilla.org page and download Firefox is NOT listed at its current version? It only has the released version, but not the beta.

You people have a very veiled and shortsided view of the way the world works. Microsoft is not perfect, but at least they post links for beta versions and make it easy to understand what version is what, and they have *1* site for everything, you don't have to crawl all over the net to find stuff.

So fine Firefox has a new version, why do I have to watch the beta forums to see the newest versions available? This is a primary example of why Linux and Mozilla will fail, because no one understands simple organization. Communication only works if you make it easy to get what you need.

I still have some reservations about Mozilla, for one thing why is there so many versions of the same product? Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox, and NONE of them recognize each other. Its pathetic. I am not sure what you people are looking at, but these programs are very basic, not polished, and no support except for java scripts. Firefox has major shortcomings, and I will continue to express opinions regarding the lackluster performance of Mozilla and their products

louis_cyphere

louis_cyphere reviewed v1.0.6 on Sep 4, 2005

Best Web Browser out there. The tabbed browsing makes for easy netsurfing. The extensions make customizability endless.

blenderbomb

blenderbomb reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 30, 2005

better then internet explorer and that all that matters.

tmaioli

tmaioli reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 26, 2005

Simply the best there is out there, no IE 7 will not kill the FF movement. FF feels so natural, who can live w/o mouse gestures after you used it. There are always new features you can add if you want them, so no force feeding of "features" if you don't. If you haven't heard all the raves, well, welcome to earth. Simply the best out there. Try it... think outside the masses for once.

nayan003

nayan003 reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 26, 2005

Best Browser...

It can really make ur surfing the web very smooth and easy if you really know what extensions to use. I dont want to mention the extensions here coz its on personal needs.
But to the people you are not familiar with Tweaking the Firefox, I believe they should download "Tweak Network Settings" extension by Edwin Martin.
As one of the reviews says it increases the download speed. It really does and I agree with him/her.

Thanks to Mozilla Firefox Foundation for working so hard as a team and giving us the best available experience on the net.

PaceyPimps

PaceyPimps reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Aug 25, 2005

Has less bugs and runs faster than Firfox 1.06 Works better with flash 8.xx beta. But Opera 8.10 is better reducing spyware and popups. Too bad only works on 95% of webpages work on it and Mozilla runs 98% of webpages. 1 Adantage for Mozilla but Opera has more usable features. Since i stopped use IE i have not had one Spyware so i unistalled all 5 of my spyware remover programs. You ask why 5 each one cought diffrent stuff the other one did not detect. IE is not bed but is missing features and has to many leaks do to how many uses use it not the code. Thats why Opera is so much safe couse you have to pay for it and most people hate that which is why there is less users.

hypatech

hypatech reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 22, 2005

It's simply the best!
I have used this program ever since .2 many improvements over the time to make it the best browser ever.

Firefox displays pages more smoothly and better the IE.(It's a fact.)

Give it a try!

You might like it!

Oh ya and theres a tweak that you can use so firefox loads websites way faster

Josh P.

Josh P. reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 21, 2005

I love Firefox. In my opinion, it is probably the best browser for the masses. Some people may prefer other browsers, but for the most part.. Firefox is usefull to everybody.

But I'm one of those anything-but-IE guys, so don't listen to me ;)

Josh

Blackhole8746

Blackhole8746 reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 21, 2005

Let's put it this way:

On a 256Kbps connection, CNN Special Reports page opens in 6.5 seconds with Maxthon Browser (Based On Internet Explorer), and in a breathtaking 17 seconds with FireFox...

Tabbed browsing is found in both FireFox and Maxthon, though in FireFox each tab is huge and takes a lot of space, to close a tab you need to right click it and chose close which is annoying... In Maxthon, you double click a tab to close it, you drag a URL from a page to anywhere in the page it opens up in a new tab... THAT's what I call tabbed browsing

I use Norton Internet Security's AdBlocking feature, in Maxthon, it blockes flash ads in Betanews windows and opens the rest of the page prefectly, but in FireFox, when NIS blocks and ad it stops loading the rest of the page...

No form filler, AI Robo Form comes free with Maxthon...

Maxthon has an ad on the main fileforum page doesn't have something to say to you?

What does Firefox have that other broswer's don't huh?

I'm sure there's much more

rosepetalgyrl

rosepetalgyrl reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 10, 2005

Quickly loads, fun themes, easy to use, only came across a couple of sites that don't support firefox.. yet! Overall, a terrific browser.

CyberHobo

CyberHobo reviewed v1.0.6 on Aug 4, 2005

A capable browser with some nice features. However, don't feel that you are immune to exploits since you ditched Internet Explorer. This is not the reason I am rating it a 3.

Firefox gets a 3 because it still contains a huge memory leak (this has not been fixed as claimed since version 1.0).

ckliebert

ckliebert reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 30, 2005

Does not play well with Roboform. Creates error to send to Robo forms and Firefox creates an error report to send to Firefox. Firefox then terminates. Think I will wait to see how quickly (or not) they respond to this and revert to 1.03 as I have had no problems with that earlier version.

bokhylla

bokhylla reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 28, 2005

Where did all the adware gooo!! I am getting a little sentimental! I pay a lot of money for adware protection (which I still will be doing, this isn´t 100% protection), but this is free protection against adware (and virus)! It is a freeware! The layout is nice too.

The-Who

The-Who reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 24, 2005

very good! the flashgot plugin built-in is the right way to go. also the "forcing" of new-window-link to open in a new tab.

but they must "steal" some ideas from Maxthon: double click on a tab to close it, drag link to open a new tab, some mouse gestures (for those who doesn't have a 5 buttons mouse), disable new windows mode (who needs it when you have the tabs mode?!), customize/adding buttons, showing the download speed on a web site, disabling most of the ads automatically (instead of pressing the "Adblock" button), creating an automatic "address" using the Ctrl+Enter (which exists already), Shift+Enter, Alt+Enter (for local addresses - .co.xx) and to add a java plugin built-in.

and they must find a way to trick Microsoft Update site to enable us to update using Mozilla... :-)

alfonsvanhees

alfonsvanhees reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 23, 2005

Great browser!!! Firefox works faster than (actually not) comparable browsers such as Opera. It's one of the only easy-to-use browsers which supports tabs, and it has better popup-blockers then IE6 under XP SP2.

I recommend FireFox greatly!!

mengo

mengo reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 21, 2005

but why??? maxthon or avant beats this hands down

its slow at starts and i really dont like the rendering. and time has shown quite a few bugs, so thats not really a reason.
maxthon comes with all the block option you need, and does it well, without having to download plugins
have to give it 3 for the competition after all

otero1

otero1 reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 21, 2005

Always works well. & For those of you that complain about those ads. Ignore em , don't be a n00b and click on em.

taxis

taxis reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 21, 2005

Excellent free browser, nice layout; by the way one of the rare programs with a good German localisation.

Osama bin Laden

Osama bin Laden reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 21, 2005

Crappy one! To big to slow to hungry comparing to Opera, less features and less secure than Opera. I rate 1 because I see no *0* here!

fudgeworth

fudgeworth reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 21, 2005

I use Firefox, yet I still have to see this crap every time I visit Betanews and the Drudge Report (even more infested with garbage)

"There is 1 update available for your computer
Your Windows XP may need a tune up.
Click "Start" to recommend improvements."

Now you just know there is NOT an update available, and that if you fall for whatever spyware they're peddling you'll regret it.

So when is someone going to put SPECIFICALLY PUT THESE PARTICULAR spyware peddling deceitful d***heads behind bars?

cPingN

cPingN reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

You know, it's odd that there's an update, even if it's only for Windows, but it goes almost unmentioned.: http://ftp.mozilla.org/p....0.6/update/win32/en-US/

As for loading FF quickly, don't forget that your link (again, in windows) has to be:
\Firefox\firefox.exe /prefetch:1

And lastly, I find it funny that people rate a browser based on how quickly they do or don't get virii and spyware, how fast it loads, or what the buttons look like. These are the same kind of people that must be writing the new versions of Windows - all sorts of crap to do with media players and popups when you plug in an mp3 player.... yet if want any sort of options when you copy a set of files, you still have to use XCOPY?! Thanks, XP.
All that crap is secondary. The things that should matter the fact that it RENDERS PAGES PROPERLY. Before you go and say IE renders pages properly, please realize how much BS proprietary code they expect people to use, and how they still manage to screw up basic CSS and DHTML type things. And Windows IE STILL can't display a g-damned PNG image properly. As a developer that's all I've wanted for YEAAAARS. FF does it just fine. Firefox isn't perfect in the CSS arena but it's a damn lot better than IE.
Just had to rant again. Sorry. :)
For me, personally and as a developer, Firefox has saved my web-based-life.

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

Very nice that they release this update but I think we can all agree that firefox shouldn't have made any mistake in the 1.05 release in the first place.

I don't trust Firefox anymore and frankly I've had more than enough problems with it. I'll stick with Opera until firefox is a little bit more mature and doesn't put out flawed releases.

Oh, still no patch for Greasemonkey, the only Firefox extension that I care about :( Oh well Opera's UserJavascript works perfectly fine withouth any security risks.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

Still a terrific browser, even if the occasional issue is discovered. Beats the crap out of the lousy Opera browser any day. It baffles me how Opera lovers are completely blind to its faults, which are far worse than FF's. Just take a look at how well it plays the trailers on starwars.com. BTW Metshrine, I won't flame you. It seems as though you've done some worthwhile research on FF and know what you're talking about.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

I love firefox and all, its my primary browser now, but I hate when people think that stuff has been DESIGNED AND INNOVATED by firefox. Pretty much NONE of the features I've seen in FF are truely unique to FF. Ad Muncher, Ad Subtract, and Ad Killer are all programs that do what ad block does, Ad Muncher does it FAR FAR BETTER (than the apps I listed, AND THE ADBLOCK EXTENSION) with a hugely updated list, far more options, and much easier to use and ready to go out of the box (no need to hunt for a 3rd party filter list, as this list is updated at least 2-3, often more times per week). People claiming they've gotten virii thru opera or firefox (that isnt the fault of an extension or javascript, or a 3rd party plugin), I would love to see how?
Please, to backup your claims, post the sites that infect you. Tabbed browsing has been done over and over, while some browsers claim to have innovated it, at this point, who cares, its a needed feature, get off your high horse and know that people will continue to impliment tabbed browsing, and continue to improve upon it.

As I said, I am not here to bad mouth firefox, I love it, but I am also a realist and realize that some of these extensions that people claim as revolutionary have been done years before, far better I might add, its just that the firefox fanatics dont want to admit that their browser is just adding features that have existed elsewhere for a LONG TIME.

Top notch browser, way to go firefox! Now if only we could make it so we didnt have to do 2 updates within a week. This is the second time this has happened since the 1.0 release. Other than that, thanks for a great browser. Let the flaming against me begin

Also, to the user above me. I wouldnt rate the browser poorly because an extension has a security risk. Thats not the fault of mozilla, its the extension makers responsibility to patch it.

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

The best web browser.

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

Actually i've caught a nasty virus with opera and ie many times . Firefox is the only one that allows me to astalavista's site (which is packed full or crap) . I tested this both on maxthon and opera but they got the trojans . I test it on firefox and it always blocks all of the trojans and any windows that attempt to make a guest appearance .

Firefox may have soem flaws but not as many as ie . Opera was good for a while but it won't allow me to reinstall it cause i deleted an acount on my computer and now it wants to create that acounts folder etc.

With updates in firefox i have no problems .

Also , Banners ? I won't pay for a browser when theres a whole bunch of good free ones around .

Yes, Firefox has some flaws but not as much as the other browsers ..

I used to not like firefox very much but after a while it has become a great application on my computer .but quicker loading of the browser would be great (firetune doesnt do much)...

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

Great browser. Never had any issues with 1.0.5 but here's to fixes! Good work Moz/FF teams!

On a side note I can't ever fathom using IE again, I don't care what features it adds in the future. I trust this browser, and I trust their philosophy.

glib

glib reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

the only thing lacking is the speedy responsiveness and some of the features of Opera. But, it largely makes up for it with Extensions from https://addons.mozilla.org

Adblock http://adblock.mozdev.org with ad-filters from http://www.pierceive.com are ESSENTIAL for your sanity on the web - an absolutely addictive must-have you will not know how you lived without. The NoScript extension and FlashGot extension (the most popular extension for Firefox on https://addons.mozilla.org) are some more essentials.

The great extensions and support for the latest web standards (ever tried coding for IE's CSS inadequacies?) make this browser the best.

1.0.5 was working great with all the Extensions I had installed, and this seems to be a fix for some Extension(s) that didn't like the new changes. So far so good. All in all, a far superior browser to Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Partner it with Thunderbird (Mozilla's email client) for the one-two punch.

Si1enthunter

Si1enthunter reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

Mozilla Firefox...
i used this program on numerous occasions, for a longer time (about 3 months)... but then, i suddenly realized that it wasn't that safe at all.. i caught some very serious virii, trojans and spyware whilst surfing!

with internet explorer, that amount would have been -no question- much higher, but with OPERA it would have been smaller. MUCH smaller.

some pages couldn't be displayed properly with FF (firefox) that could be properly displayed by both IE (internet explorer) and Opera.

well, i'd recommend this program anyways if people are too greedy to spend a little money on a decent browser (OPERA). firefox is freeware.

the main thing to do is 'take back the web'... though why does it say to take it "BACK"? it never belonged to firefox.. mozilla with netscape maybe.. but the new netscape is cooler than firefox in any case.

cheers !

Get OPERA here: http://www.opera.com/

Zygi

Zygi reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

Before i was using Maxthon (MyIE2), but it's still IE engine with all holes and faults. I was looking for some alternative, Opera was nice but when i found out extensions in Firefox, i was sure it'll be my favourite browser. Now i got more features then in Maxthon, not only this but they're more advanced because every plugin is small masterpiece with own configuration. Yes, its lil bit slower then Opera, but i used to this.

theheff

theheff reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 20, 2005

I especially enjoy how the fix time for critical updates is days, not weeks. Very nice job. This should be a lesson to the people at M$.

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 19, 2005

The extension issue that prompted this release has been misunderstood, misreported and overblown by many here. As it actually existed, it didn't affect my Firefox installation whatsoever.

I give this release that same rating I've given the last several. Five stars for the best browser currently available, at least for the way I use the web.

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 19, 2005

Actually the API problem was fixed before the 1.0.5 release. Unfortunately they took the wrong nightly build to be the 1.0.5 release then they intended. Only the en-us 1.0.5 released build of Firefox and Thunderbird on their main server was wrong. All other translations and mirrors of en-us were fine.

To avoid confusion they made this new release. The Enigmail extension for Thunderbird is the only affected extension I'm aware of because of the API issue.

Squire72

Squire72 reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 19, 2005

As always, fast, lightweight, reliable, and the best rendering available from any web browser.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 19, 2005

I think it's a great product.

DJInsomniac

DJInsomniac reviewed v1.0.6 on Jul 19, 2005

Greasemonkey is a third party plug-in, that had nothing to do with Firefox itself. Get it right.

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 19, 2005

First the put an broken release out (so much for testing), then they have problems with translating , getfirefox.com gets hacked and greasemonkey contains a huge security bug.

No thanks I'll stick with Opera until they have their things sorted out.

cool_guy

cool_guy reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 19, 2005

"Not as good as Maxthon or AvantBrowser." I don't care about the engine used, I care about the GUI friendliness and convinience.

I tried to like this browser, I really did. I give it three stars, I take away stars because Super Drag&Drop is missing out of the box, you cannot drag tabs and reposition them, double clicking tab does nothing (unlike Maxthon, the tab closes), the browser loads up slow, the UI seems to be slowsih in a way, the way it draws the widgets on the screen. Please, don't tell me all these can be done with extensions. I am talking about out the box experience. Also, if all these features can be added with extensions, would you mind providing links to these extensions? In reality, I should rank this browser 1 star because so many loyal FF users rate other IE based browsers one star because of the fact it is IE ignoring all the good features. 3 stars for all the work put into this more secure but not so excellent browser (in my opinion)

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 19, 2005

I'd already installed a 1.06 nightly build the other day, and honestly, this new RC version is a little strange. It refuses to open, although it shows up in Processes as running.
I reinstalled the earlier 1.06 version, and the trouble went away.

As for Opera and it being just as configureable as Firefox. Well, I just spent the last half hour trying to install what Opera calls an Adblocker. 3rd party, btw. And it doesn't work on the fly, you have to reopen Opera. I don't call that much of an improvement.

FF for me, personally.

cazoo

cazoo reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

this is the ftp link if you want the installer version ...

http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...htly/latest-aviary1.0.1/

chinch

chinch reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

firefox is a good browser, but i got tired of all the memory leaking and crashing. although the extention system is great, it usually only causes instability problems (as the extentions are rarely updated as much as the browser, leaving incompatabilities and random quirks). the extentions also tend to clash with each other many times. i just got tired of dealing with the freezes/crashes on a regular basis (and no, my computer is well taken care of.. i'm a computer science major and i know what i'm doing on a computer).

i finally did myself a favor and switched to opera. it's just as customizable as firefox, and IMO, moreso. i don't have to install 1,000 extentions for the program because the features are already basic to the program. such as the wand (auto formfill), fit to horizontal size (no more annoying horizontal scrollbar), mouse gestures, other unique features like fast forward.. and not to mention it's faster, more stable and has about half or a third of the memory footprint of firefox. never causes any of the problems that plagued firefox for me. (this is just my opinion, hold the flames). i still use thunderbird as my mail client, which is an excellent program despite a mere few complaints. overall, firefox is still a great browser and i'd recommend it over IE *anyday*.. (who wouldn't, though?)

Zygi

Zygi reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 18, 2005

oh BogdanSHA, i got AdBlock under FF so go play with your closed source Opera, without customisetion power of extensions... :P

randal2k

randal2k reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

" It still needs to match the IE standard for compatibility across the board "... IE is laced with non standards that create a casim in new Web innovations.

I like firefox. It has all the browser add ons that i like. It also has it's problems. But, of all of it's issues... web browsing isn't one of them.

acey99

acey99 reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

"It still needs to match the IE standard for compatibility" ??????

UM Mozilla/Firefox are W3C Compliant, IE is NOT.
IE is complient to MS "Standards".
...
MS: "Let's add something that'll only work in our program so all the masses ooh & ah & want that neato function, we'll lue them to a false sence of security & give them a nice warm fuzzy."

Never mind the neato function Crashes on an hourly basis or is so hackable it get's an update every month or 2 (ActiveX)!

brotherS

brotherS reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

Firefox + some extensions = great!

Defcon79

Defcon79 reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

Anyone who claims Firefox/Tb are anything less than excellent is an idiot or a troll. The fact is they are now polished enough that I don't hesitate to recommend them to non computer savvy friends.

The problem with Firefox is that extensions break with each build. Partly this is the fault of over zealous extension authors who mark their code as being incompatible with new revisions.

The other big problem is lack of auto update and auto patching, but this is fixed in Deer Park.

Someone also needs to make a 'Firefox distro' with useful extensions and tweaks preinstalled.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

An old showbiz maxim states: "Popularity is always inversely proportional to exposure". The more they see you, the less they like you.

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

Betanews needs to incorporate IQ tests for people that join their forums....the thought of them breeding really frightens me.

Good Job Mozilla!

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

I'm sorry...when was Mozilla ever known for it's spyware??

Kushan

Kushan reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

The reason it updating no longer works, since 1.04 is because the update will ONLY allow you to update your localised version when that version is available (so if you're using the GB-English version and only the US English 1.05 is released, you wont see an update).

Slug_Coordinator

Slug_Coordinator reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

Since 1.04 updating no longer works, so I can no longer click the updates button and update it.

It's gotten less responsive, and seems to be not as good as it was.

I agree the quality is going down. I am tired of uninstalling every time to upgrade it manually. Stupid that you have to do a manual uninstall then reinstall every time. Because the update no longer works.

SC

mini12

mini12 reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

GO GO GO, GO FIREFOX!!! YOU,RE CAN BEAT INTERNET EXPLORER 7

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.0.6 RC on Jul 18, 2005

The best web browser.

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 18, 2005

I rather wait.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 16, 2005

Although it just has some security fixes, it works great as usual. Highly recommended.

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 16, 2005

Firefox has been falling apart lately . I am switching to opera until they fix these issues .

After a while it just stops and doesnt respond . I open ie or opera and they will keep going but after a while firefox just dies . i disable the extentions but it still stand without loading pages ..

then a few times pages didnt load at all ..i mean grey screen and i have to close the tab , reopen and surf .. this was just google (not some random site etc.)

past for the last 2 versions it has been having some serious issues .

its sad but with more and more people using firefox i have been noticing more security issues . i long for the old days when it wasnt really known and was flawless concerning security ...

i hope this is not one of those ''all good things must come to an end'' situation ..

clawso1

clawso1 reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 15, 2005

It's very, very annoying for the auto-login to WebPages not to work like Opera!!! I have to type in passwords and user ID's! But the feature is supposed to exist. If its broke, then fix it!!!

wingo

wingo reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 15, 2005

well my mhasn't crashed and for some reason it runs faster than my old 1.0.4. :-)

as for the comment below "Still Firefox haven't fixed 15% of vulnerabilities." i'd like to know the other 85%. seems okay anyways if you run (any) windows platform you're used to patching the ship as you go along.

i used to be a opera fan but their browser moved over to the mainstream ones and became slower and slower. will have a go when they give me it for free.

Kylde

Kylde reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 15, 2005

I reported a bug but it was because of an older version of roboform, this works fine with a new roboform update

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 15, 2005

My rate is 4,5. Opera is still better & safer ;)
Still Firefox haven't fixed 15% of vulnerabilities.

pjb

pjb reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 15, 2005

Really excellent release. It handles drop-down-menu's (J.Script) really well, a lot better than FF 1.4. The Application also loads a lot faster than FF. Go Mozilla Go. Keep up the good work.

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 14, 2005

This version handles tabs better and one complaint I had since the beginning of Firefox, Firebird, Phoenix - backward and forward navigation - is finally fixed. Until now it would drag.
Catching up to Opera, but not there yet.
Going to be good when 1.1 is finished.

Mystiqq

Mystiqq reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Now wheres my Mozilla Windows NO BS! :)

ArabianNight

ArabianNight reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

THE BEST BROWSER EVER!

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

I'll rate it high as it's a great product, but I'll stick to Deer Park Alpha 2. It's just as stable and has enhancements.

xrayspex

xrayspex reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

FF is sexy

jordenpro

jordenpro reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

MS search engine vs Google : Google
MS IE vs Mozilla : Mozilla
MS vs Linux : Linux

I'd be proud of my linux stock.

IgnacioJN

IgnacioJN reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Firefox 1.0.5 or Deer Park Alpha 2?

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

If you feel adventurous, like I did, you could try Deer Park 2. It worked well for me, but it is a Beta so don't be surprised if you encounter some problems. I removed it after a day and installed 1.05, just to be on the safe side and the fact that 1.05 performs so well.

For a short time I had considered switching to Opera, but came to my senses when I discovered annoying flaws with it. Bottom line is, no matter what positives I find in other browsers, I get the best overall satisfaction and ease of use with Firefox. Furthermore, spyware is virtually a thing of the past when using this as my primary browser; I use IE for updates and the occasional online scan only. Keep up the great work Mozilla!

Pipewrench

Pipewrench reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

The Best, The Best, The Best!!!

Since I started using this browser a year or so ago I haven't looked back.

I love it, and I cannot recommend it enough.

I also use Thunderbird and Sunbird. They are great also.

Mozilla is the stuff!

****WOOOHOOO****

bello

bello reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

The very best browser in universe! getting better, smarter and faster version by version. i simply love this browser and i never go for other browsers anymore. i hope someday Firefox will be able support all direct streaming media files like IE.

WhiteZero

WhiteZero reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Yey for Security Fixes.
anomoly, don't lower FireFox's ranking by doing that just cuz you want to plug the nightly builds.
Idiots...

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

great day for software updates...anydvd, ati drivers..now this ;)

Yotofuji

Yotofuji reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Great program, but if you use AIRoboForm...be sure to update that prior to getting this download

Adidas1532

Adidas1532 reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Fantastic browser! I just wish fileforum would update their website sooner, to reflect when the software ACTUALLY comes out. ;)

agildehaus

agildehaus reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

To answer gawd21: That "Quality Feedback Agent" is optional and is NOT optional only when you are installing over a version of Firefox that already has the agent installed.

theheff

theheff reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

GREAT browser. Puts IExploit in its place.

mo_mo

mo_mo reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

best program ever@

Don Juan

Don Juan reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Yeah, Firefox is awsome. It may not be the fastest, but it by far the most versatile, and thats what makes it so great. People make such a big deal of the security flaws, but there are very few, and they fix them fast, and there is no such thing as 100% security when your connected to the internet. NoScript is an absolute must, another good one is Permit Cookies from http://gorgias.de/mfe/

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

They fixed a number of security flaws, and if you use NoScript 1.09, you will pretty much block the rest of the flaws. (Secunia.com)....Good job Mozilla.org!

Paradise-FH-

Paradise-FH- reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 14, 2005

Any widely used program is going to have itself scrutinized and exploited on the security front. Opera doesn't have less holes ... it's just no one uses it, so no hacker wastes his time trying to exploit it.

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v1.0.5 on Jul 14, 2005

Love it as always.

BogdanSHA

BogdanSHA reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 14, 2005

Opera is better, yes, you can cry now. But this browser is good too :P (take a look here: http://secunia.com/product/4932/ ). Oh, btw, you look at ads on every page on Internet; don't cry for a really small ad in Opera :P

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 13, 2005

Hate to break the news to you BogdanSHA, but no, I don't stare at ads on every page. In fact, I don't look at ads at all! Outpost Pro does a very nice job of blocking them all, thank you very much. Besides, it's not so much the ad bar that annoys me most about Opera. Rather, it's rendering definciencies on some pages - especially those that contain Flash images - and its propensity to slow to a crawl after a while is what bugs me the most about it.

Years behind Opera??!! Umm, I don't think so. FF is slick, efficient and very quick. You guys below can stare at those stupid ads and put up with all of Opera's other annoying deficiencies all you want.

rpavl

rpavl reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 13, 2005

I agree, its years behind Opera, and Opera hasnt even dented IE' base. This program has done one good thing...it has been a good all day sucker for the whiny baby geeks who hate anything microsoft, and boy have they been sucking it. Thank god its candy and not what they really want LOL.

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 13, 2005

Works pretty decent for a 1.x browser but it still is miles behind Opera. I hate the way Firefox threats RSS feeds, it's truly horrible! I also dislike that they don't have an integrated E-mail client.

Other than that they're a lot of other small annoyance's with firefox like the massive memory usage (especially with a few extensions) and a bunch of my extensions broke while upgrading. The currect security record of Firefox also drawns some concerns.

In conclusion Firefox might be a nice browser for the geek that wants to tweak everything or for the parent that isn't to computer savy but I'll stick with Opera to get some work done.

hypatech

hypatech reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 13, 2005

Like give it up Opera Fans!I do not hate microsoft.Yet I love Mozilla firefox.It has the best security,the fastest speed(Modify open sorce to get even faster), it has better skinning options, and it even has great extensions.

You Fans of IE and Opera and Avant Browser.
All of you need to give firefox a chance just give it a couple of weeks search for some modding things to speed it up and you'll love it!Especially he large selection of Skins for it.You people who download these browser that run on the IE patform your just asking for trojans,spyware,ad-aware and viruses!

So Do The Switch Today!
Rediscover The Web!
Give it a Try

Adidas1532

Adidas1532 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 13, 2005

I'm pretty pumped for the final release! iamtux, they aren't changing the name to Deer Park, it's just the code name for the project as others have mentioned below. Every software project has a codename until final release. Firefox won't change names until the 2.0 release, when it will be Firefox 2.

iamtux

iamtux reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 on Jul 13, 2005

Very nice. Though I'm kind of wondering what's up with the name and are they changing the name again from Firefox to Deer Park permanently?

Here's what I like about it:
* As said Forward and Back buttons seem to have better performance.
* I like the new software update system.
* Love the new tabbed preferences interface.
* Seems faster than FF 1.0.4.
* Love the Sanitize feature. Great addition!

I'm definitely looking forward to the finished release. Keep it up Mozilla!

cacko

cacko reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 13, 2005

works stable, no crashes.
/me happy

Leeâ„¢

Leeâ„¢ reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 12, 2005

Deer Park has been running on my computer for a few weeks now, and these alpha 2 candidates work pretty much perfectly. The only problem I found was that websites may not show up correctly since not all website developers have switched to Deer Park (I have though ;-).

Switching to Mozilla Firefox was definitely one of the best things I have done for the Internet. I suggest people try it if they havent already.

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 12, 2005

Horsecharles, the previous name changes were because of legal reasons. This one isn't actually a name change, instead this build is intended for web developers and extension writers and not the general public. This is the code name for this particular release, just like what all the others had.

And it does have an update function, presently it has to download the entire installer for every minor security release because it needs to replace the 6mb firefox executable. This alpha version adds the ability to patch the executable so when Firefox 1.1 is out security updates will be small and transparent.

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/qa/
http://www.mozilla.org/p...ts/firefox/roadmap.html
http://www.mozilla.org/p...irefox/roadmap-1.0.html

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 12, 2005

I'm getting real annyoyed with all the name changes.. now it installs with the name DeerPark(what the... does Deer Park provide their bottled water free of charge?) instead'a firefox-- why can't it just upgrade or at least replace-install FF? & why does the browser itself not have an update function?
Man, does life suck...& then i'm gonna die!!!

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

For some reason it won't open for me. Says a version is already running, even though Program Manager says otherwise. Wouldn't open on fresh boot.
Back to 1.04 for me.

gkar

gkar reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

Seems a little quicker then Firefox 1.04 (more noticable because I'm on 28.8 dialup). Many of my extensions work like Anidisable, NoScript, TweakNetwork, SendReferrer, CookieCuller, PopupCounter. Deer Park Final should be an Excellent browser if this is any example. I hope by then most of the Security flaws listed on Secunia.com will be addressed.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

Been using Deer Park for a few weeks now, and love the speed and am astonished by the stability. The vast majority of my extensions work fine (especially now that MinimizeToTray has been updated).

hypatech

hypatech reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

This is An Excellent alpha Build.Usually Alpha are very unstable!If your reading this the screenshot is not deer park! Well anyways Im using it right now to do this post with the theme brushed!

JeRrYFaR

JeRrYFaR reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

Your review didn't load for me.. :-(

I have been using "Deer Park" ever since it came out a couple of months ago.. for an alpha, it's one of the most stable programs I've seen..

Some extensions didn't work when I upgraded from 1.04, however for the most part, it is rock-solid. Looking forward to alpha 2!

fullfilth

fullfilth reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

Using it right now, read my simple review http://fullfilth.blogspo...release-candidates.html

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.1 Alpha 2 Candidate on Jul 11, 2005

I have been using firefox for more than a year now, and I think it is perfect !

I use theses extensions :
Adblock
Flashblock
CookieCuller
IEview
Firefoxview

And I am trying these ones :
CustomizeGoogle
Tabbrowser preferences
Noscript

I like it !

NB : Firefox 1.0.5 is out !

OldSpiceAP

OldSpiceAP reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 10, 2005

There are many browsers, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer, and Konqueror. Firefox stands out in many ways though. The first feature that drew me in was tabbed browsing. This was a feature I loved back when it was still called pheonix. It was so seamless, and cool, no more opening new windows in the old clunky new window manner. Eventually I discovered themes. These were neater and easier to install than IE skins, and I loved the ability to skin my browser in a similar manner to the way my computer was themed. Then I discovered extensions. Wow. There are so many, from the ability to use even more advanced adblocking features, to scanning every download with Clamwin AV, the possibilies became endless. I discovered mouse gestures and more. I get fewer viruses while in Windows, and my only problem is that the Zone.com only works with IE, so one of the things I've done is download an extension that allows me to right click on a link and hit "Opem om IE"

Using Firefox seems quieter, with out the hectic closing popup windows, opening new browser windows, or worrying about what adware programs are installing themselves onto my machine.

Firefox isn't invunerable, but it does help my piece of mind.

ibwebb

ibwebb reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 3, 2005

I want to start by saying that so many think that every NON IE user is a bitter, anti Microsoft person, bent on bringing them down. It isn’t so; I enjoy many products that are the result of Microsoft. I will admit that I am by far not the most computer literate person there is. YET, after many years of IE with few minor problems, complaints about complexity of some things, and lots of surfing to find solutions; I went to look into Firefox. SP 2 was my final straw. Firefox was to be my ‘backup’ browser. It took me almost a month of going back and forth before I realized that my most enjoyable times on the web were when I was on Mozilla Firefox. I paid the money to get the CD (even though it was offered free) and got Thunderbird as well. Between the two my time on my computer has become 100% more enjoyable. It is easier to use, faster, better features, and it is free (unlike so many things out there). Give it a try.. its free and you may find yourself agreeing with me!

rossbyrd

rossbyrd reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jul 1, 2005

Firefox is much more flexible than IE because it allows you to install entensions and themes to fit your needs. The tabbed browsing keeps your taskbar less cluttered. It's more secure than IE because most internet attacks target IE, not Firefox. Definitely switch. It lives up to the hype and praise of IT folks everywhere.

Squire72

Squire72 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jun 1, 2005

Atfer using this for a few days (pre alpha builds and the current builds) all I can say is fantastic.

There are glitches and bugs that could cause some unpleasant experiences, so unless you like being on the cutting edge, and don't mind risks, don't use it... but if you're like me, and would rather get a look at the next generation, don't mind the occasional bump in the road, and are willing to troubleshoot a system when problems arise - go for it. It's an excellent preview of a very promising product :)

V1xIII

V1xIII reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jun 1, 2005

As Nehemoth said, it is extremely fast, i'm very impressed. I'm an Opera 8 user myself and i would really like to see Firefox have mouse gestures for dealing with tabs like that browser has (i dont know if there are any extensions that do that because i dont really use firefox much). But all in all, nice work on deerpark so far.

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jun 1, 2005

Wado..........
Is fast, very very fast..

The Only problem are the extensions, the which are not compatible yet with 1.1, but the browser itself looks amazing...

XF

XF reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 on Jun 1, 2005

Deer Park alpha 1 is intended only for testers and extensions developers. DO NOT DOWNLOAD if you are an average user. It's going through many changes and many bugs wont be corrected until the final/beta 1.1 release.

beldin

beldin reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 27, 2005

Deer Park installed fine alongside Firefox 1.0.4, no problem with bookmarks and 1.0.4 still works fine.. :)

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 25, 2005

I use Stardock's Object Desktop on all of my PCs and obviously this browser didn't like the mixture. Alphas have a way of not playing well with others. It didn't cause any major problems, but it certainly looked distorted. I think there are some virus scanners it wouldn't want to dance with as well. Wait for the final.

squirrel83

squirrel83 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 25, 2005

Bookmarks for somereason dont work . . .

mastergeese

mastergeese reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 25, 2005

IMPRESSIVE. no problems for the moment and download rate is fast compared to others browsers.

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 25, 2005

What's New
http://www.mozilla.org/p.../deerpark/whatsnew.html

kevinb7852, there are a number of warning signs around Mozilla about not running Fx 1.0.4 on a Fx 1.0+ profile. There are a number of changes and your profile would have been converted when you first ran Deer Park.

kevinb7852

kevinb7852 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 24, 2005

As an FYI - after installing Deer Park, Firefox 1.04 would not open correctly. All of the toolbars, both top and bottom were distorted and left clicking on a toolbar opened an unusable black window instead of a menu.

I had to create a new profile and reload all extensions and themes. Uninstalling Deer Park and reinstalling Firefox did not help.

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 24, 2005

Dude I know it's an alpha build. It opened the first time I tried it, but refuses to comply anymore.

Klusternisse

Klusternisse reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 24, 2005

the best a man can get :)

themafia_69

themafia_69 reviewed v1.1 Alpha 1 RC on May 24, 2005

its always nice to see the best browser updated

jcs83md

jcs83md reviewed v1.0.4 on May 19, 2005

Its DEFINITELY not flawless, nevertheless it is the best browser out there.

4.5/5 stars

AustinK

AustinK reviewed v1.0.4 on May 18, 2005

The best browser by far! It is totally flawless. It has better security then IE and has multiple Extensions and Themes that simply kick but. Although its download manager kinda sucks, I would recommend it over any other browser any day.

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Firefox is great as usual.

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

roboform???? lmfao, firefox saves the form info and passwords by default with no extentions..that is why i stopped using maxthon...because i hated roboform..it's g**...firefox rules!

cheechoz

cheechoz reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

This is my first review on Betanews, and I must comment on the Firefox IE fued. I was always using IE for many years, but now with Firefox I can browse the internet in a more cleaner and less cluttered way. My only gripe is that I have to now wait for my third party extensions to update to the latest release. Let's go Roboform!!

Axord

Axord reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Ahh, nice. Security holes patched fast, performance improved slightly.

TC17: Did you follow instructions and uninstall your previous version before installing 1.0.4? Your settings and such aren't touched when you do that, and you don't get problems like extensions not working.

MOTVG

MOTVG reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

It installed fine for me without breaking any of my extensions. I haven't had any problems with this version.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

This update does not even run on my computer. And no its not me, I had the previous 1.0 version running right before it. Do they even test this stuff?

I'm also very sick of every single update breaking any Firefox extension I have installed. Including themes which is ridiculous.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Nice browser but its firefox.exe process will sometimes fail to disable, especially after struggling to open a web page due to ISP/low Internet bandwidth problems. This causes the "XPCOM: Event Receiver" message when trying to log-off/shut down the pc. I've sometimes had two or three firefox.exe processes when this happens.

Strange that no one else seems to cite this issue, as I know I'm not the only one affected by this.

wingo

wingo reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Re: SCoooBY comment.

well at least FF is fixed within
resonable time. with god internet
explorer they don't admit bugs
even if ppl have showed them and
it takes them long to fix things.

nothing is secure if you abuse it,
but FF has no built in activ-X
scripting which is easily turned
against the user instead.

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

ScooBY-

All browsers will have security issues. What will make one stand out over the others will be how fast the creators respond to new threats w/ fixes. Compare how long it takes for an IE hole to get fixed versus FF....
Not a "fanboy", just a happy (IE-less) FF user.

kberg31974

kberg31974 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

SCooBY,

As far as I know, the "FF boys" never claimed it was 100% secure, just more secure than IE. No software can claim 100% security. Besides, when have you seen MS patch IE in just 3 days?

jshrk

jshrk reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Opera may be better and my preferred browser, but this is still a great browser 5 star.

SCoooBY

SCoooBY reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Unfortunately, now that FF has hit the "bigtime", it is being targeted by the same scum who used to go after IE.

Because of this, we now know that FF isn't the "secure" browser we were lead to believe it was by the FF fanboys and their ilk.

In fact, it may have more security holes than IE has/had... we just don't know.

As a realist, I hope that the FF fanboys back off their security hype, as they are doing themselves and FF a disservice.

frekio

frekio reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

This is a nice web browser, though I use Opera also :)

mosimea

mosimea reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

To help offset the idiotic rating of UTAKER...

crowbar82

crowbar82 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

"UTAKER
This is a nice webbrowser but i'll still opt for Opera webbrowser"

And thats why you give this program 1?? LOL!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Cool. I want official zip builds though. Tired of packaging msi's every month, it's much easier to script this out to paste on user's machines...

DunbarKC

DunbarKC reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

I've NO SPYWARE with Firefox. It's a great browser. This release 1.0.4 has an "orange ball" to verify the critical updates.

emredondo

emredondo reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

The best browser of all times.

Orbitration

Orbitration reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Considering the PRICE and the FEATURES and the available ADD-ONS, this beats everything out there. If you can't find something to customize this browser to fit your own needs, you need IE and OE. ;)
Speed is fine, also. mem usuage is around 25 to 28 megs (not bad when you have a gig, which is where we're all heading anyway).
And almost daily updates to soothe the download beast in me. ha.

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Quite frankly the best available! i think 1.1 would be great cause it's adding some cool new features,but htey r to be expected in mid-june.
Anyhow,i think PC-magazine should award it browser of year 2005.like it did to mozilla suite in 2003!

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

To all you Mozzperts:
with all these updates, when would it be a good time to uninstall the old, to install the new?

pyridox

pyridox reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Looks like the memory leak is fixed now. Uses an average of 25-30mb now, instead of 150-200mb in v1.03. Also, I believe the security issues with v1.03 have been addressed in v1.04.

Great browser. Compatible with 90% of the web sites out there.

You will get far less adware/spyware on you PC's when using firefox. XP SP2 firewall & popup blockers help a little with IE, but it don't come close to Firefox.

Try it. Run IE for a couple of days, run an adware/spyware remover, note the amount of spyware. Then run Firefox for a couple of days, and do the same. You will see a noticable difference.

Zodiachus

Zodiachus reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

The best browser out there. I admit that other browsers has key things that make them good, but they are always lacking in some other area. Firefox does just about everything very well though. If you lack some feature check for an extension that does it for you. They also have some very interesting stuff planned for 2.0.

pvolk

pvolk reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Good Program. Fast, and has a nice smooth tabbed interface. Other than that, nothing special. Nice and secure for dumb people, but IE with SP2 is about equally protected. In addition, IE has seamless Office integration ... soo if you dont want any extra baggage on your computer, and dont find yourself breaking your own computer through obvious internet based scams, then do yourself a favor and dont switch ... trust me, i've used both thoroughly and its not worth the switch (unless of course you just cant get enough of tabs!).

Chazwazza

Chazwazza reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Great browser. Never going back to Internet Explorer.

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Finally, startup speed is improved!

Mystiqq

Mystiqq reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Firefox's power is in the extensions, without its actually very boring and not all that "hot".

Must have extensions:
- Tabbrowser preferences
http://216.55.161.203/theonekea/tabprefs/
- Add Bookmark Here (kick ass!) :)
- FLST (Focus Last Selected Tab)
http://gorgias.de/mfe/

Also i use:
- Session saver
http://forums.mozillazin...g/viewtopic.php?t=47184
- Scrapbook
http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/

...and some others...

This is what Firefox is about.

Caleb

Caleb reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

A binary patching auto-update system is coming in 1.1

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v1.0.4 on May 12, 2005

Another well done release. For best performance, I'd recommend a clean install (uninstall existing versions, delete your profile folder)

However, I really wish that they had a better autoupdate or patching feature. That way no one would critisize about the critical security bugs in Firefox..

alberta expediter

alberta expediter reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

If you want to review the changelog that some people seem to forget to link to, try this link:
http://www.mozillazine.o...kback.html?article=6597

Dolfhin

Dolfhin reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

One of the best browsers aviable!

I'm more an Opera guy, I like the way Opera does thing better than the way Firefox does things (e-mail client, RSS feeds, Skins, etc) but that most certainley doesn't mean that Firefox is a awesome browser!
Not much has changed in this Release Canidate but it's good to see that once again a few bugs are smashed and the internet is a litle bit more secure.

Try both of them (Firefox and Opera) and see which one YOU like best. Their is no universal best browser and Firefox and Opera are both really good so why not try them?

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Been using this RC for about 12 hours at work and home and no issues.

emredondo

emredondo reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Amazing!

faja

faja reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

WebWarp, this "release" is getting updated daily with the nightlies, so please stop talking trash. Also, it's being released because of the new security issues found 2-3 days ago.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Now why do they call it Mozilla Firefox for Windows 1.0.4 RC then .. thats damn confusing .. Should be 1.0.4.3 RC then or Mozilla Firefox for Windows 1.0.4 RC2 .. Its hopeless to know if your up2date with it then ..

sgt

sgt reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

ie vs firefox... god who cares. use whatever you want.

anyway, does anyone know if this release candidate fixes the two new security flaws? there are no notes for changes here on betanews, and no mention at mozilla.org.

heybirder

heybirder reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

While I agree IE is a pretty decent browser, only the most savvy of Internet users can browse the net these days without infecting their computers.

I never once had spywre or malware instaleld on my PC in years of surfing but I was careful. Sadly, anyone who has friends/family or others that come to them for tech support know inevitably IE was a main cause of problems (along with p2p stuff).

Firefox eliminates this headache and is worth using just for that reason alone. It gets installed on any computer I have the "pleasure" of looking after. The Adblock extension is a godsend. I used a 3rd party blocker for IE and Adblock is far superior. Google "adblock geocities" for a site that has an amazing filter set for adblock. (No more imdb garbage ads!)

Anyone still holding on to IE, should give Firefox an honest chance and learn Adblock. It took myself about a day or two to finally wean myself off IE and after that I'd never go back.

Firefox's major sticking point is it's poor memory clean-up which apparently is fixed in 1.0.4. While I've never seen Firefox take more that 50mb, some claim 200-300mb isn't uncommon. This should now be fixed.

esh3

esh3 reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

I have used Firefox since almost day one. Then when I installed the current version 1.03 I suddenly became infected with the ABetterInternet mess. Took me forever to rid my computer of it. I have since switched to Opera which IMHO is slower but much more stable browser. No more Firefox for me.

Metshrine

Metshrine reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Great browser, but I wish people would quit whining about IE and how many spyware "Programs" they get on their pc. The user below is proof of my concept, he claims to have between 20-40 SPYWARE PROGRAMS installed just by browsing with IE for one day. He fails to mention that AD-AWARE and MS ANTI-SPYWARE both consider COOKIES (in IE only) to be spyware, and neither program scans firefox's cache (or any other alternative browser's) for the same tracking cookies. Quit spreading the BS and please, do tell how many actual PROGRAMS or TROJANS are installed. Cause I have yet to have a single spyware program or trojan installed while using XP SP2.

Before the flaming begins, please note, that I Do use firefox, but I have used IE for a good long time before I did, and I switched to firefox because of a few specific customizations. Not trying to flame firefox in any way, just want the truth to be told.

chinch

chinch reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

i don't really feel it's necessary to have to tell people that firefox is a great browser, but let me put it into perspective:

i surfed all kinds of sites, from the classy to the filthy if you know what i mean and after two full weeks of searching, i ran both ad-aware AND the microsoft antispyware program. both found ZERO spyware on my computer. i run those two about once a week and it always results in a "0" result. versus IE, i use that for 1 day, and i have 20, 30, 40 spyware programs on my computer.

this is reason alone to switch. when it comes to spyware, firefox is a beauty. plus, the whole extention capability, it just puts IE down to shame.. though i do find IE is faster and less of a memory hog on my computer. firefox seems to be more resource hungry, but a hell of a lot more secure when it comes to what it allows to be installed on your computer.

my tip: if you're a parent, or older sibling, and you're tired of your computer being filled to the brim with spyware every time they use it.. trash IE, and make them use firefox instead. for your own sake, they won't be able to do as much damage to your PC as they normally would. practical hehe..

my only complaints with firefox is that i guess people have mentioned a memory leak that will be fixed in the upcoming 1.1.. but it just uses up a ton of resources, esp with several tabs loading at once, it can really bog things down. second thing would be that extentions seem to work and not work at random times. one day an extention will be working perfectly fine then the next day it's gone. trying to cut this short here as i see this is getting long, but my final b**** is that there are so many "extentions" that merely change a line or two in the about:config, which can be done manually without having to bog things down with a ton of unnecessary extentions.. these options could easily be added into the preferences/options panel, which would make things so much easier.

just my opinions. overall i give it a 4 because of the above issues and it seems to be wishy-washy at times. but vs. IE, i'll take it anyday.

pyridox

pyridox reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Firefox is great. It blocks a lot of adware/spyware from installing on my machines. In this release, I think they are trying to fix the security holes that were recently found in Firefox.

Check here:
http://www.neowin.net/co...28307&category=main

Unfortunately however, there are still a couple of pages that I can only view properly under IE. But I use Firefox for the majority of my web browsing.

allan0r

allan0r reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Amazing browsers, always use this over IE. But agian uses a HUGE!!!! about of memory . I've had it use nearly 150mb of RAM before.

Rebell

Rebell reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

Better security - but some memory leaks...
wait until final version :)

Caleb

Caleb reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

skgan60, you are forgetting that Firefox uses a MEMORY CACHE (it automatically decides when to increase it though).

Tom Pix1

Tom Pix1 reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

The text search in Firefox is great
why not all other programs use it?

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

recently I been using Maxthon which i LOVE!!! but i always keep my firefox updated..i use it rarely ;)

skgan60

skgan60 reviewed v1.0.4 RC on May 11, 2005

once increased, it never come down...

Donna Dora

Donna Dora reviewed v1.0.3 on May 9, 2005

when i surf the sites, there r many pop up which interrupt my surfing, firefox, provide pop up blocker so i can block them and can do surfing without interupting.

Tanya Tara

Tanya Tara reviewed v1.0.3 on May 5, 2005

Firefox is very user friendly

Toni Prescot

Toni Prescot reviewed v1.0.3 on May 5, 2005

When i try to close my window as there are multiple tabs open, it immediately pops up message, that do u want to shut firefox? i think this is more user freindly message.

dirtyangel

dirtyangel reviewed v1.0.3 on May 5, 2005

Forget IE, get Firefox. All respect to Opera but this is still a DAMN good browser. Light and easy UI.

boogeyman

boogeyman reviewed v1.0.3 on May 1, 2005

My first Choice if i wanna browse safe, and fast.
I dont like only that it sometimes got problems with CSS and that you cant skin the scrollbar.

bugmenot

bugmenot reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 25, 2005

Not as good as previous version.

Crashes very often, and takes ages to fire up. Suggest people wait until 1.0.4 :)

Alvin Alton

Alvin Alton reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 25, 2005

The integrated customizable download manager, has eased my work lot.

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 24, 2005

Theres a bug in this version . After a while it stops responding . Just to make sure if it was my dsl or the program , i opened maxthon but it connected to google ..

this seems to be a buggy version ..

btw , to the user below about opera ... its so fast that sometimes it doesnt load pages fully . That browser is not worth it .. maybe for 56k users since it takes them 8 hours to load a page ...

I guess i have to go back to maxthon for now ...

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 18, 2005

"generally bloated." Do you realize that the file size has actually gone down with official FF builds?

Try opening 12 IE eindows and easily browse to those pages. Let's see how fast IE is now compared to 12 tabs within FF.

And let's not even begin to recommend extensions and add ons to FF or IE. We're reviewing the base product, and FF is so beyond IE in it's default state that IE belongs to be referring to as a "Netscape-era" browser.

5 stars.

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 17, 2005

Unnecessary features and extensions and the need to satisfy differing architectures lead to a generally bloated alternative to IE. s8v4 20050417 http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=215104 is what FF 1.0.3 should be.

Danny7

Danny7 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Firefox is just an awesome browser.
It can be greatly enhanced with the huge number of extensions availible for it.
Also, the many Firefox themes make it the best free browser available.
recommended for everyone!

mmebane

mmebane reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Always security updates... well, it's still far better than IE. I loathe IE. :P

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

As a former critic of Firefox, I can now say that FF is a fine browser and heartily recommend it to all of my friends. That being said, I would also like to see a core set of extensions built-in and maintained by the Mozilla community. Improved tab handling, gestures and perhaps a few more... similar to Opera.
And don't give me this "bloatware" business... FF could add these extensions and more for under 500k.

SorenMD

SorenMD reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Anyone that says Microsoft IE is even comparable to Firefox is just a Microsoft employee and spamming this review. IE7 is just a big piece of bloatware that will slow down your computer not to mention all the critical security vulnerabilities. Take back the web and download FIREFOX

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

the guy down there compared this to IE...hahahahaha 2 funny bro, IE is a waiste of trash ;)

RobertM

RobertM reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Excellent browser, both easy for new users to use and easily extendible for power users. Plus, the rendering engine (Gecko) is top-notch. From a Web developer standpoint: I hope that, with popularity, we can finally use Web standards like the majority of CSS 2 without fear that the majority of users will not benefit from it.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Maybe - just maybe - one day this fine browser will give MS IE some serious competition.

Relax Adrian79, I'm not comparing FF to IE; they are two completely different browsers. And yes, I do feel FF is superior to IE! FF currently has less than 10% of the browser market, so I'm basically saying that I hope FF soon steals away a whole lot more of the overwhelming IE market. In fact, this is analogous to the way Norton has, over the years, duped so many people into believing their bloated av product is the world's greatest when, in fact, it's a piece of garbage.

Andrey Pyasetskiy

Andrey Pyasetskiy reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

zuG

zuG reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

I prefer this browser. Just need to wait for updated extensions now. :(

Skibbi

Skibbi reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

The best web browser available!

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Works great. Highly recommended.

rawd

rawd reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

I REALLY want to like Firefox and have tried it a few times. I've installed all tweaks and my IE is still faster (page loading). The difference isn't huge but enough for me to notice. I still give it a good rating though, nice app

Joco

Joco reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

httpd.confused: Can you please explain how a spell checker and session saving are basic features? What is "decent tab functionality"?

[deXter]

[deXter] reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

I'm a huge Firefox fan. In fact, pre 1.0, I used to display an Fx downloads counter in my signature in all the forums I visited; when 1.0 was released, I actually burnt 100 Firefox CDs, distributed amongst all people I know who used computers, printed out flyers and put them up, made my own "Dump IE, get Firefox" T-s*** to boost, urged people to switch over, made my own version of FirefoxIE for stubborn people....

But the browser I use in reality is Opera :)

Its what I was always using and what I will continue to use. No doubt that Fx is one of the most secure and fastest browsers around, but unless it pays a little more attention to its UI, me and many others wouldn't consider using it as a mainstream browser.

Its not like I haven't supported or helped in the developement of Fx. I filed in bug reports @ bugzilla, sent crash reports and more.. and no response. On the other hand though, the websites I complained to about Fx incompatibility problems, had responded well and fixed their pages.

The Mozilla foundation on the other hand is itself in a deep mess- anyone who has been /.ing would know what I mean. Its about time that they cleaned up their act.

ryanb0885

ryanb0885 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

httpd.confused: I have never used or had the need for session saving or spell checking within Firefox. Part of what makes Firefox a great product is the ability to choose what is going into your browser. While I may find certain extensions extremely useful, others may find no use in them at all.

crashoverride

crashoverride reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 16, 2005

Seems to be a bit faster than previous releases. Still has this nagging problem of telling me that it can't find the webpages that I enter. Then after hitting reload about 5 or 6 times it finally loads the page. Must be a problem unique to using firefox with direcway because I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 15, 2005

Why don't the Firefox blowhards scream about this sort of thing, the way they always have when it happened to MSIE? I hear crickets you hypocrites!

I'll give it a 5 when they start shipping and taking responsibility for a basic subset of extensions--obvious stuff like decent tab functionality, session saving, and spell checking. I think it's idiotic that basic features like that don't ship with the core product. (And no, that does not defy the concept of extensibility.)

I just knew someone would respond to the contrary, sidestepping the point... And someone did.

The extensions I listed above were just examples off the top of my head. I suspect that there are a small core of extensions that the majority of Firefox users would like to use--whether the few extensions I listed are among them or not. Installing them would be optional, and they--like all other extensions--could be removed even if they were installed.

See, the point is that those core extensions would be officially maintained and quality checked. Quality checked for compatibility and security. You wouldn't be losing the ability to choose what went into your browser. Did I say any extensions should be forced on you, or incorporated into the core browser directly?

I'm sick of being at the mercy of third-party extension developers for basic functionality, and dealing with extensions that stop working with upgrades (although admittedly, that seems to happen less these days).

But no, you people ignore the point, and go after the specific extensions I use as examples to make it. Way to go.

------------

Joco: You don't see how session saving is a "basic feature"? You mean that you enjoy closing Firefox, and losing all the pages you had open?

As for "decent tab functionality", have you looked at the features that the Tabbrowser Preferences extension adds?

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v1.0.3 on Apr 15, 2005

Good job guys I didn't have to reinstall all of my extensions this time after running the install over my 1.0.2 install.

zetokore

zetokore reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

Firefox is awesome, but like others have said, there are definitely elements of the browser that aren't as fast as IE. XUL will never be as fast as Windows' own native widget set.

wingo

wingo reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

re: LinuxIsTheft

would you rather stay unsafe with internet explorer untill they admit there's a problem. :/

obviously if more ppl use a browser there is going to be more exploits too. but there is a difference by stopping leaks on a weekly (or even daily) basis.

it's like a antivirusprogram, it's not safe even if you have the latest update. someone has to fall before you can fix the mistakes.

niti

niti reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

Utomo, discover the firefox more. You can find everything that you wish.

What are the last changes of 1.0.3? It would be better if betanews would be write the changes in the new releases. 1.0.3 is really faster than 1.0.2. Memory usage is about 30K.

Thanks firefox...

utomo

utomo reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

They need to work more:
Add more icons which user use frequently, such as new tab. enable and disable: java, image, etc.
And also need better download manager.

c4p0ne

c4p0ne reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

Firefox IS superior in every way to IE. And yes, it does load pages faster. Stop the BS. The only thing they need to do now is iron out some java related issues and we've got a new browser for the next decade. No joke.

CyberHobo

CyberHobo reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

A bit over rated. Since, it's increased popularity we will most certainly see more and more exploits. And finally, it is NOT faster in page loading than IE6!

LinuxIsTheft

LinuxIsTheft reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 11, 2005

Biweekly updates. Insecure by design.

Will they go to weekly patching soon now that hackers have noticed it?

2xG

2xG reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

Frankly, IE is so bad, it doesn't take much to surpass it.
Firefox surpasses it. By a long strech.

Only thing that would be nice is if it could render certain (rare) pages that will only work in firefox... like have some sort of option to use the IE rendering engine occasionally, if that's possible.

Firefox does what I want it to do, and does it better than IE.

Andrey Pyasetskiy

Andrey Pyasetskiy reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

http://www.pluginable.com FireFox blog. Quite new blog but already has several articles about FireFox.

eviljolly

eviljolly reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

I took your suggestion and tried some of the CE builds. Performance was good, but none of them would handle java without crashing.

ogman

ogman reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

Very Fast, rock solid browser.

adamlau

adamlau reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

Opera and K-Meleon are noticeably faster than Mozilla Foundation offerings of FF. Improve response times by running the application and its associated profiles from a ram disk. horsecharles: Not minding waiting an extra second or two? You must be kidding. I want my pages rendered as fast as possible with the least amount of redraws as ASAP is the name of the game. If you must use FF, may I suggest a Firefox CE build by one of the many third-party builders listed on the MozillaZine 'Third Party/Unofficial Builds 'forums. eviljolly: Always create a new profile when testing builds as profiles are not necessarily forwards and backwards compatible.

horsecharles

horsecharles reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

For those who say it's slow-- a large part of that's usually due to some extension conflicting: remember, anyone and/or their grandma can make 'em.
My suggestions for FF:

Need an app that will troubleshoot all extensions installed-- it would test n'log the browser performance with no extensions, then with each one alone, then all possible mathematical combinations of them(whether it be by repeatedly installing/uninstalling if just disabling individually won't do, as well any needed shutdown/re-starts of browser / computer).

And the browser still needs a final bit of work interfacing with Macromedia content AND with Real video.

Anyhow, i've noticed a gradual & slight speed improvement with recent builds(nightly), & as well re interfacing w/ Macromedia & Real.

I really DO NOT mind waiting one extra second or two for initial opening Because of the tradeoff benefits of being able to resume all sessions when a crash occurs, as well as bad coding at some site or malware attack not crashing the whole OS when it freezes the browser.

Opera usually wins browser speed tests.
Hey, it's on version 1, when it gets to v 7/8 like IE / Opera....
Of course, nothing's a given-- the project can go down in flames & we all wind up jumping on another bandwagon....

GeneralLeoFF

GeneralLeoFF reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

This browser still has alot of really dumb bugs that are annoying as hell that it has no excuse for having. Like the way it gets webpage icons confused and google might have a yahoo icon and yahoo has the google icon. Or the way it wont resize icons larger then 16x16 so if a site used a 32x32 icon you only see 1/4 of it. It also still has some rather nasty and more major bugs like memory leaks. Letting firefox idle over night causes it to use up most of my system memory (right now having just opened it and going to betanews has caused it to use 55MB). But it is overall very nice.

kazzi

kazzi reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

The best (Firefox) can, and does, only get better. For those who do not understand 'about:config',
there are third party programs out there which can tweak things up and do as is written on the box. That is the wonder of Firefox - the ability to have it as you want it.

allsiante

allsiante reviewed v1.0.3 RC (Updated) on Apr 10, 2005

"I have tried the tweaks and it still sucks"

Yup, I'm reading you, and you also do.

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 8, 2005

If you are interested in testing the beta versions of this software then head to:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/p...ox/nightly/latest-trunk/

FF 1.0.3 is only going to be another security bug fix release and there is little different.

fair_is_fair

fair_is_fair reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 6, 2005

Too slow for me. Mozilla suite and K-meleon are much faster. K-meleon is a rocket ship.

Firefox would rule if they could make it fast. And yes, I have tried the tweaks and it still sucks.

Herb.alone

Herb.alone reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 5, 2005

I have been using Opera for a long time now, and swore by it as being the fastest browser.
However I've been using Firefox for a short while and it is a hands down winner.
Fastest Browser on Earth.
I am on dialup and it is faster than Netscape's Accellerator. (Cheaper too)
With the Firetune and extensions it is just the ticket.
The security flaw has also been looked after in this version.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 5, 2005

I like. Resolved a fairly critical security patch. This should be out of RC within 48 hours.

tc

tc reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 5, 2005

Great browser. If they'd only add the copy to clip board option then I'd make a permanent switch. I use sites that add stuff to the clip board when you click on a link. Firefox doesn't support it. As soon as it does, I'll switch.

DeadFly

DeadFly reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 5, 2005

If there is anyone out there that insists on using IE, at least use something like Maxthon which improves IE by 1000%. Anyone know where to find a list of what new in this release?

kernelsn

kernelsn reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 5, 2005

The BEST of BEST browser.

Klusternisse

Klusternisse reviewed v1.0.3 RC2 on Apr 5, 2005

the best :)

khalid2005

khalid2005 reviewed v1.0.2 on Apr 2, 2005

it's great ... but why it does not support arabic. ... ???? and there are some lack of features... i hope that firefox benefits from maxthon features...

Husain Nassir

Husain Nassir reviewed v1.0.2 on Apr 1, 2005

I leave my pc on throughout the night and just incase if i happen to leave firefox running the next morning i cannot do without restarting my computer. And the worst is if i leave it on a friday and comeback on a monday. Otherwise its a great browser!!

sex.drugs.rocknroll

sex.drugs.rocknroll reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 31, 2005

A fantastic browser! I've really taken back the web with it!!!!

mizkitty

mizkitty reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 29, 2005

Should have waited awhile before I installed it.
Disabled all my extensions and greasemonkey.
Tried to roll back to 1.01 and now I can't get either one to start. Just get constant hourglass as it cycles on and off trying to start. have to reboot to use the PC again.

Amadeo Doom

Amadeo Doom reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 28, 2005

The best browser...what more it's for free.
Has some issues though...like the rendering is not very good...but it rocks.

SubversiveTyrant

SubversiveTyrant reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 26, 2005

I like Firefox, but I also like Opera. I have being going back and forth between Opera and some gecko based browser for quite some time now. I find myself liking the gecko engine over Opera's but have always liked the features in Opera better. Features such as integrated mouse gestures, the ability to turn off images and have them NOT load (unfortunately I'm presently on 56k), the reload every X feature, a good rss feed reader, and my favorite: the automatic return to the last session feature.

The one thing that will be the downfall of Opera is its lack of support for user made extensions. Had it beaten Firefox to the table with that it might have come out in front in the long run, but the extension list has become far too robust for Opera to really catch up.

That said I have finally come up with a list of extensions that allows me to do everything that I could in Opera (with the exception of Opera's very convenient RSS reader). Following the above order here they are: Mouse Gestures, Web Developer, ReloadEvery, and SessionSaver. I also use Tabbrowser Preferences, Gmail Notifier, WebmailCompose, Disable Targets For Downloads, AutoMarks, CookieCuller, BetterSearch, and Flashblock to further enhance Firefox beyond what I can do in Opera.

Hope this list is helpful.

pimp_in_da_crib

pimp_in_da_crib reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 25, 2005

perfect browser. perevents pop ups. makes sure spyware doesnt come on,its just a great browser ,the best on the web

Milo Kabuki

Milo Kabuki reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 25, 2005

Great browser, would have gave it 5 but seems they still have not fixed the bug when you click a submit button and watch it hang, forum "goers" BEWARE

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

This is a great browser.

BNuser

BNuser reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

Geckobased Browsers since years here. If you love IE, just use it. If you want gazillions of extensions go Firefox. For Joe Average IE is still most easy I guess. No hassle, but no benefits either. And I have reinstall their system for money every 6 month. They paid for their OS, so now pay me for it's maintenance. Fair, isn't it?

Googly

Googly reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

This is specially to Jay singh about the tabs that I too use firefox but it needs lot of plug-ins or extensions to show some sites properly. this is where ie takes a cutting edge over firefox.

Mystiqq

Mystiqq reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

Best. "Power surfers" dream when combined with extensions.

taxis

taxis reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

Complete and still rather lightweight browser. Much more transparent and secure than Internet Explorer; together with extensions it provides more comfort.
It would be nice if it could offer a Kiosk view, as Opera does.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

Garbage as always.

Jay, IE7 might have tabs. No one knows for sure one way or another yet. In the meantime, try Avant or Maxthon.

Jay Singh

Jay Singh reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 24, 2005

I love the tabbed interface, i was stuck with ie untill my friend told me about firefox and its tabbed interface and i love it...i read that even ie is going to have tabbed browsing in ie 7...is it true??

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Weird ... At first the extensions wouldnt show up but i disabled them all and then enabled them .. It's fine now .

an update .. yay :)

I use one extension but i have to use a program to block ads in ie and pop up blockers with ie .

You must be joking about firefox using more plugins . ie needs other programs to even compare to firefox ...

Alexq

Alexq reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Version 1.0.2 discontinued ZIP packages and only provides buggy and completely unnecessary setup files.

Great browser, if you can install it, that is.

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

er, it does tell you...

Fidelio

Fidelio reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

I expect the browser to tell me when an update is available and provide a simple way to have it installed (besides having to navigate to the Firefox site, download and install). Just a warning with the browser with a link will make me happy. The other thing is that everytime you upgrade, it leaves all previous version entried in Add/Remove. This is something shouldn't happen as it turns confusing.

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

I give Mozilla credit: the startup speed is improved.

forgie

forgie reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Great browser, but my only beef is that when updating, it leaves the old entry in the add/remove programs list in XP. You have to manually remove the old ones through the registry. What the hay developers!?

Adrian79

Adrian79 reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

best browser ever put together...gets better and better!!

oh, just update dude, dont worry about un-installing first.

irdepesca572

irdepesca572 reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Great browser! One question: If I have 1.0.1 can I just download 1.0.2 and upgrade that way? On their site I noticed it says: " Prior to installing Firefox 1.0.2, please ensure that the directory you've chosen to install into is clean and doesn't contain any previous Firefox installations"

I also won't lost anything? Thanks

Squire72

Squire72 reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Clean, Fast, and Secure... I love this browser

Opera has it's appeal, and IE makes OWA sites look fantastic, but they both have a long way to go to catch up to this little piece of engineering :)

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Changes:
http://www.mozilla.org/p...wn-vulnerabilities.html

I'm revising my score because this version has crashed twice since uninstalling 1.0.1 and installing 1.0.2.

Lurifax

Lurifax reviewed v1.0.2 on Mar 23, 2005

Firefox is for free, yeah, and opera isn´t. Thats fine. But this fact has nothing to do with the fact, that Opera is the superior browser,and the Firefox cache-thing, which I mentioned earlier is just such a huge disadvantage.

Bright Clarita

Bright Clarita reviewed v1.0.1 on Mar 18, 2005

I love the plugin model of the browser. I think its a great concept

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.0.1 on Mar 11, 2005

Read it and weep:

http://www.steelgryphon.com/blog/index.php?p=37

"This is bugging me, and its been bugging me for a while. In nearly three years, we haven’t built up a community of hackers around Firefox, for a myriad of reasons, and now I think we’re in trouble. Of the six people who can actually review in Firefox, four are AWOL, and one doesn’t do a lot of reviews. And I’m on the verge of just walking away indefinitely, since it feels like I’m the only person who cares enough to make it an issue. Things I’ve raised in relatively private contexts have gone unanswered, and I’m growing increasingly cynical about our ability to ship 1.1 early enough to make 1.5 remotely viable this year. At the glacial pace of development we’re currently running at, I don’t see how the ambitious plans for 2.0 are going to be at all viable before late 2006. Maybe I’m wrong, but no one’s bothered to take five minutes and tell me that."

How's that for security? Aahahahaha

Nikkie

Nikkie reviewed v1.0.1 on Mar 2, 2005

Great program but i have found that it starts eating up resources ..

Sill needs a bit of work and i have noticed that the more popular it gets , the more security flaws it gets ..

Athena

Athena reviewed v1.0.1 on Mar 1, 2005

Firefox needs a bit of work to be configure but I have to admit as a maxthon fan that it has cool feature.

I really like the web developer plugin but I still use maxthon which has more basic features and uses less memory.

I like them both, but I don't use them for the same thing.

pjlasl

pjlasl reviewed v1.0.1 on Mar 1, 2005

awesome application. got rid of IE as soon as i discovered firefox. ie is now only used for the windowsupdate website. love how the idn issue was discovered and fixed asap...where is IE on their security flaws?!?!

to bad you can only give it 5 stars...

PicAFlic

PicAFlic reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 27, 2005

I LOVE FIREFOX! I have been using Firefox ever since it had out the 1.0 Pre-Release (in other words the Beta of Firefox.) I reccomend this browser to ALL of my friends and family. I also reccomend it to everyone who reads this! :)

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 26, 2005

Small, fast and safer than using IE - it works great.

wat0114

wat0114 reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Why is it that the text in the left hand column on TSN.ca disappears when I refresh or go back to the site? It seems to be some sort of Macromedia Flash or Java problem and as far as I can tell, it's happening on this site only. It's not a huge deal but unless I can resolve it (doesn't happen in IE 6), i can give FF only 4 stars. Everything else about the browser is pretty awesome though. Time to add on a little more to this review. My goodness, the more I use FF, the more I love it! It looks like IE has some pretty stiff competition here. Nice work Mozilla! Still have that somewhat annoying glitch with tsn.ca though.

UniversityofKentucky

UniversityofKentucky reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Nekkat calls FF bloated??!! I love an ignorant comment. Bloated compared to what? Have you seen the source code of IE? Do you know what source code is?

FF is much smaller in size that IE, can be compiled to run on multiple OS's (from static or daily builds), can have SELECTED extensions added (and updated) if needed, can have themes changed at will, can be optimized from the source code OR through MOOX (http://moox.ws/tech/mozilla/firefox.htm), has RSS integration, tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking, has SUN's version of Java instead of JVM, adheres to the W3C standards (http://www.w3.org/), rapid release of security updates, and is quickly growing in number of users (according to national figures, as well as WebTrends on my servers).

Note to wat0114: please make sure you have the latest version of Flash installed. The site you mentioned, http://www.tsn.ca/, does work for me with "What's on TV" text scrolling through. The latest version of Macromedia's Flash Player is 7,0,19,0.

darkpepe

darkpepe reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

The best browser I know! Try out some Extensions for it, there is nothing you could miss.

robertguda

robertguda reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Dont know yet what went wrong in version 1.0.1 compared to 1.0 its just very slow on displaying the graphics on a website...maybe I did not configure correctly ? or maybe just a missed bug ? in any case it is a very solid replacement of ms ie and only for that thumbs up !!!

nekkat

nekkat reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Firefox sucks. Bloated and slow. Those Americans in Mozilla disabled IDN because they don't have to worry about it.

dougau

dougau reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Still the best in my book.

photonboy

photonboy reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

I uninstalled Firefox 1.0 and then installed the new version without incident.

My plugins, theme and Bookmarks were all intact.

I use a theme called Luna Blue that makes Firefox look like IE:

http://www.intraplanar.net/projects/lunablue/

Domingo

Domingo reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

It's a terrific browser. Can be customized to look and work just like IE.

I *do* have one major compaint, though.
Firefox scrolling is WAAAAY too blurry compared to IE.

Fix that and I'm happy.

davygiven

davygiven reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

It didn't affect my plug-ins at all

deathshead

deathshead reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Great browser. Fast and safe. I now use it as my default browser on all my computers.

I didn't have to uninstall to upgrade to the lastest version. However I did have a problem with my plugins. It disabled them and I couldn't find an easy way to re-enable them. In the end I had go to the plugins site and re-install them.

Hopefully in a future version they'll add a feature to enable/disable individual plugins.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Firefox and Opera each have their advantages. Firefox is more stable for me, and that counts for a lot. (I develop the urge to commit murder every time Opera crashes on me when I'm submitting a web form that took 5 minutes to type out.)

On the other hand, and as others have pointed out, Firefox sucks as it ships. Its tab features are too basic, and the way Ctrl+W closes windows as well as tabs drives me clinically insane. It took me weeks to get Firefox 1.0 to a point that I could stand to use it. Weeks, because an extension I really needed (BlankLast) wasn't yet compatible with Firefox 1.0 final.

With Opera, I don't need pain-in-the-ass extensions to do every little thing (like add a "Close all tabs" menu item, or paste-and-go functionality). But on the other hand, configuring Opera granularly requires pain-in-the-ass INI editing. Oh well.

And, of course, extensions sometimes stop working when you upgrade Firefox. And they never uninstall cleanly, which can sometimes cause serious problems. That just plain sucks. (This is where some idiot chimes in and claims that "My extensions always uninstall 100%!", not realizing WTF prefs.js is.)

And yes, extensions are a security risk. Just wait... XPI malware is coming.

Then there are cookies. Opera still, in version 8, has idiotic, utterly terrible cookie management functionality. It uses a proprietary binary file to store them, so there are no third-party utilities that can clean them up. Firefox is much better in this regard.

P.S. I didn't uninstall Firefox 1.0; I just installed 1.0.1 on top of it. And it works fine.

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

http://www.angryflower.com/aposter.html

jangofett

jangofett reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

firefox rocks, but why would i have to uninstall 1.0 ton install a patch? seems like i should just be able to install a patch without having to uninstall the whole program. i mean would it make sense to uninstall windows xp just to install service pack 2?

gawd21

gawd21 reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Look ma it's free!!! :-)

CyberHobo

CyberHobo reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

FireFox has it's issues. I'm waiting for IE7.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

A tad late with the security updates, but it's stable and it works so it makes up for it. The best software of 2004, here's to 2005!

Aspect

Aspect reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

I really don't see how they can make it any better.

niti

niti reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

With one word , excellent

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

A classic

Zulithe

Zulithe reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

What more could I want from a webbrowser that Firefox and its numerous extensions do not already offer? Hands down the best browser out there today. It should be installed on every computer.

fazen

fazen reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

I'm a weddeveloper. This is my browser from 2002. Simply p-e-r-f-e-c-t.

heybirder

heybirder reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Punycode is a way to put non ASCII characters into a domain name. So Asian, Eastern block countries,and others can have domains using thier character sets.

I've been looking forward to 1.01 as it's supposed to fix the slashdot bug.

klevo

klevo reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

This is THE browser for everyone.

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Int. domain names is now displayd as ponycode .. what does this mean ???

Arnvid

Arnvid reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

What happens now is not only the development of Mozilla Firefox, it's also the development of a far broader user segment. From my own sites I can see that the number of users of Mozilla (Mozilla suite included, Netscape excluded) have grown to between 6 to nearly 10% while Opera lies between 0.5 to 1%. So while it before was only "hardcore" users of Firefox, this have changed fast - and the demands and opinions of Firefox as well. That more blast Firefox is namely also telling us that it's a growing number who download and try it. For Opera, it's absolutely not built on the IE engine as captainhab say. Another part is that Opera is shareware (although they have an alternative with a ad-banner which is removed when payment have been done) - and are today focusing rather much on mobile-browsing-development (Sony-Ericsson). IE is still there for those who want (dare), and Opera, which in many ways was the one who was the first to give a new hope when IE, was nearly alone on the market. Opera lovers still love their browser, and that is good - I personally have used Firefox as default browser for a very long time now. So do I think everything is perfect? Of course not, it's getting more stable, able to handle more, get more plugins options, and for myself, it's more than perfect enough to be my main browser. So for the strong growing number of users, maybe the most important part Firefox provides to a real number of users is the possibility to choose their own browser. Some love it, some hate it, more use it (-:

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Going back to NetCaptor. Firefox's popularity now has somehow incurred the wrath of the idiots who think it's "good" to destroy anything good, and now this version is littered with popups it can't stop. Mozilla, please cure this crap fast, or your 25 million subscribers will quickly flee as fast as they came.

plasticpig72

plasticpig72 reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

I have used this program for over 1 year now having previously used Netcaptor and Opera. Opera is to look at but I personaly dont think it does anything better than Firefox. In fact I have dumped everything else. I like the ability to down load addons with the update function. The only reason it doesn't get a five is that some of the secure sights which I use will not run via firefox, mind they wouldn't run in opera either. To sum up its clean, simple, efficient, very adabtable and FREE!

bakura

bakura reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

For the past month, I switched from IE to Firefox as my primary browser. There are some things that I do find cool, such as tabbed browsing, and well... that's it. But they really nailed down the tabbed browsing process.

Here are some things that I felt needed improvement:

Firefox is not fully compatible with several of the sites that I use daily at work and home.

Firefox is also much slower to load for me, and I only have two extensions installed.

I cannot move the toolbars around, or for the ones that I can move it's a very clunky process.

I'm not very fond of the interface. It seems very boxy.

I can't use a single Favorites/Bookmark file/folder with IE and Firefox to keep from having to maintain two separate Favorites/Bookmark lists.

I just switched back to IE as my primary browser. I gave Firefox an honest shot but it's just not for me.

donpacman

donpacman reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

WOW.
I would have never though Opera fans would be gang-banging Firefox...how gutter

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

"from what I recall, opera was built on the IE engine"

You recall wrongly.

eunichman

eunichman reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

from what I recall, opera was built on the IE engine, naturally it would load faster than firefox (built on the mozilla engine) since windows auto-loads the IE engine every time it boots. I will stick to firefox :)

aerthling

aerthling reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

Too slow. I've moved to Opera and haven't looked back. The only thing I miss about Firefox is the Adblock extension, but AdMuncher does just as good a job.

Caleb

Caleb reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

I agree with what has been said before. The "innovation" is just mumbo-jumbo.
Everything done in Firefox has been done before it and done better (Opera..).

The more extensions you have the slower the browser starts and the more memory it takes.

The only reason I like it is because it has s better rendering engine (more "compatible") than Opera and it's an alternative to IE :)

jungle!

jungle! reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

on preview, what street_spirit said: this browser needs a whack of extensions just to do what Opera does by default. The more extensions one uses, the more RAM it uses, less stable it gets, etc.

OCedHrt

OCedHrt reviewed v1.0.1 on Feb 25, 2005

While it is a great browser I still find myself going back toward the IE path. Currently I'm using Maxthon for some margin of added protection on IE. But every once in a while IE doesn't work right and I'll use Firefox :)

I used to use Opera for a while but I got sick of it. While Opera may use less ram (dunno?) it just feels and looks like bloatware. Since I'm not too concerned about ram usage, Firefox gives me a better feel when using it.

street_spirit

street_spirit reviewed v1.0 Final on Feb 6, 2005

I just don't like this browser. It claims to be innovative when most of it's big name features were bad copies of ones first used in the Opera web browser (tabbed browsing and mouse gestures being the two main ones).

Then we have the extensions. To get any usability out of the browser you need quite a few which slows down load time and can cause a lot of problems with stability. Then theres the fact that there a security risk, from the supposive secure browser. And of great a new version of firefox comes out lets download it, you do so and ah damn my extensions don't work. They just cause unneeded hassle when if the features were built in they would work better together.

The only advantage I see with the browser is that it's very much like IE, so theres not much of a learning curve.

Still I can't recommend this browser, I suggest at least trying opera (properly), there is a free version (same as the paid one but with a unobtrusive ad banner). Faster, more and better features and more secure. And the ironic thing is with all the features built into opera. It is a smaller download and uses up as much ram as firefox with no extensions. Tends to be more sable too! Try the beta too, pretty amazing stuff and very stable.

trifleeater

trifleeater reviewed v1.0 Final on Jan 28, 2005

Simply the BEST!

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v1.0 Final on Jan 18, 2005

Not bad but does not compare to IE. Needs to be Firefixed!
MICROSOFT ROCKS!

tomc

tomc reviewed v1.0 Final on Jan 17, 2005

This browser is superb. I switched over from Internet Explorer because I was fed up with having to deal with the mess of spyware, adware, browser hijacks and other such nonsense. On switching to Firefox, it has all just dissapeared.

fuqfascism

fuqfascism reviewed v1.0 Final on Jan 17, 2005

speed, security, amazingness

Freh

Freh reviewed v1.0 Final on Jan 6, 2005

I've been using Firefox for about a month now instead of Internet Explorer, and i must say it rocks. it already is way better than internet explorer will ever be. when scanning for spyware with Ad-aware, the amount of critical objects found went down dramatically. need i say more?

pprodesign

pprodesign reviewed v1.0 Final on Dec 29, 2004

I think Firefox is the best! When I was using IE everything went wrong, it would freeze up (may I point out that this was a brand new computer). It was really annoying. When I downloaded Firefox it all went away and it was very easy to import my "Favorites" to Firefox bookmarks.

Take back the web!

Antibuddha

Antibuddha reviewed v1.0 Final on Dec 25, 2004

I was originally attracted to Mozilla's Firefox because of security issues with IE. Not only does Firefox load faster on my machine, it's operation to-date has been seamless. Plaudits for an exceptional browser that for my experience is light years ahead of the competition. Active-X blocking appears to be the wave of the future for the security conscious, and the tabbing ability of this browser is sweet.

ecjs

ecjs reviewed v1.0 Final on Dec 23, 2004

Just download firefox 1.0 in your own language, and try it : you will love it !

If you want to get rid of annoying ads you have cleverly spotted, just install this extension : https://addons.update.mo...x&id=10&vid=664
It is simple and really effective.

JoshP

JoshP reviewed v1.0 Final on Dec 23, 2004

Erm... Firefox is neat I guess, but its JS parsing needs some work, and I really really hate the insecure extensions. Maxthon is free, adless, and has better, imho, javascript support.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v1.0 Final on Dec 18, 2004

^ OMFG - tell me this guy isn't making a security comparison in favor of a browser that uses the MSIE engine.

I stayed away from Firebird--oops, Firefox--for quite awhile, but I'm glad I gave it another chance. The final version looks very nice.

I do still hate having to get (literally) 15 or more separate extensions, just to bring Firefox up to the level of customization and functionality I want. (I can't believe that Firefox ships without simple, obvious options like the ability to save a tab session between runs, or the ability to move tabs around.) But, at least my 15+ extensions seem to be playing nice together at the moment. That story may very well change when a new release comes out.

I still prefer Opera for my own use, but Firefox is a nice backup to have, and it's also the browser I set my users up with (you know, my relatives?).

cristoforo

cristoforo reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 30, 2004

Can't agree with some of the other negative comments, Firefox has revolutionized my browsing experience - tabbed browsing is now essential! It loads faster than IE, has better security and is far more stable (even throughout the Beta stages it only crashed 2 or 3 times!).

It is my browser of choice, and I struggle going back to IE. Needs more work on the default UI, and more support for web technologies: it seems to struggle with Quicktime and WMV.

TC17

TC17 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 29, 2004

This version is buggier than IE is. For whatever reason today it decided to remove all the extensions I installed, and it won't reinstall them either.

I get many crashes with it also, more than I do with IE.

I didn't want to have to use IE due to all the spyware they put into it, but at least it works much better.

pplude92

pplude92 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 23, 2004

So, Ive used Firefox on UNIX, LINUX, WIN98, WIN XP, etc. it also doesnt have some of microsofts problems. If IE has a hole, so does outlook, and in turn the whole OS! Firefox is stand-alone, in in an observation, has sped up my surfing speed! the best part is, the company is Linux based, so you can be sure of great security.

Antrich

Antrich reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 23, 2004

What is all the hype about Firefox???
Sure it works, but no better than any other browser I have tried. It looks very ordinary and lacks many of the features contained in Maxthon.
In my humble opinion even Opera is better than Firefox.

mattnotley

mattnotley reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 21, 2004

Not a problem for me, dunno what some of these ppl are talkin about when they say it crashes. Just their computers. Mozilla Firefox, much better than IE, helps keep my computer free of spyware. Very stable, secure, fast, easy to use, tabbed browsing would have to be the best feature, and it's popup blocker is one of the best out there. Well done to every1 who helped make it how it is.

ghammer

ghammer reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 20, 2004

Dear Fanboys,

Please donate money to Mozilla Org so they can GET SOME BANDWIDTH!

Their forums suck because of the timeouts and general slowness.

I loved this download because 6 Kb/sec is exactly what I'm looking for in 2004...

You want to play with MS, get the infrastructure in place to do it.

Brockenstein

Brockenstein reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 19, 2004

Before Mozilla came out with the full real version, even with all the spyware it had, Firefox Rocked! Now Mozilla has just a beautiful work of art, made out of zeros and ones. If you dont think this is the best browser yet then there is somthing wrong with your head!!!

Picto

Picto reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 13, 2004

I don't like Firefox because its fanboys create such a huge hype and rate other browsers like Maxthon very low to mislead users.

joshpx

joshpx reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 13, 2004

Security issues, crashing and incompatibilities... I am extremely disappointed :(

This promised so much... A secure, stable, compatible version of Internet Explorer. But sadly, this was not to be the case.

First thing: Extensions. Firefox is nearly useless without them, but the problem is that extensions are written by random people all over the world, and the system is very insecure.

Also Firefox crashes all the time! I don't think I've been able to run it for an hour without a crash.

And finally, it has problems with real web sites. It can't even render SLASHDOT correctly!

Look, W3C is nice and all, but Firefox will never succeed if this attitude of "you are wrong, we are right" continues. Firefox has to work on the REAL web, not some open-source dream web.

Sorry, but it just doesn't cut it. Maybe I'll try Firefox 2.0 to see if they've gotten a clue by then...

witch3r

witch3r reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 13, 2004

Eeep !!

tbuser

tbuser reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 12, 2004

I know many people are skeptical at all these positive reviews: how could so many people give good reviews to a piece of software? This must have been a scam! Yet it is not: all these reviews are written by grateful users of firefox who would like to introduced to their fellow Internet users the way to escape all growing annoyance of the web. If you don't believe me, go to www.spreadfirefox.com and see user's responses.

Personally, I wouldn't say firefox is a flawless piece of software: it might not have the feature you are looking for out of the box. However, the greatest feature of firefox is its extensibility: firefox is meant to be customized with extensions so that you will have just to right set of features for you, without all the bloated interface and reduced speed that comes with the extra features. Go to these sites: update.mozilla.org and extensionroom.mozdev.org and see for yourself.

mlevit

mlevit reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 12, 2004

Since the 9th of November Firefox has been download over 2.1 million times. The downloads tell the story.

Make the switch from Internet Explorer or any other browser to Firefox and you will see that going back is impossible.

bugmenot00

bugmenot00 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 12, 2004

Finally, a stable browser that can actually handle graphics and flash without crashing. Firefox is so much faster than IE (especially with the moox optimized builds, which adds optimization for Pentium 4, AMD AthlonXP and AMD Athlon64. Download them here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm Choose M3 builds for Pentium 4, Athlon64 or Sempron) It also handles heavy graphics and flash a lot better than IE, which tend to crash whenever a open a handful of sites with heavy graphics or flash.

Primis

Primis reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 11, 2004

Sorry, but this version is still quite crash-a-licious. I like all the features and plugins as much as anyone else but, really the Firefox team could at least put some effort into the stability issues. At least IE never crashed on me 3 times every night. And it does the same thing on my laptop. Right now Firefox is all just hype and I see a LOT of work to be done with it... if it's not stable the rest doesn't mean much.

bugmenot

bugmenot reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 10, 2004

captainahab, I don't know what you smoking but you need to stop. Firefox is one of the best browser, and much much better than IE. Maybe ur just new to Internet. Everbody else, switch to Firefox now if u still using IE. It's worth it.

dtanderson

dtanderson reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 10, 2004

Excellent browser. I have made the switch :)

chardz19

chardz19 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 10, 2004

. . : : Undoubtably the best ... no errors or those any other crap that you are experiencing on IE. This is a MUST have in your download list. Don't hesitate! If you are looking for a browser, you got to have Firefox 1.0. : : . .

alister

alister reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 10, 2004

It is nice to finally see IE get some competion. Maybe MS will get to work on IE 7 now. I have made the switch to FireFox and have no intention of going back to IE unless it something major that makes it an great improvement over FireFox. FireFox if very flexable and can have all kinds of new features added very easily because of the extensions.

tannman1

tannman1 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Firefox is a nice welcome release from IE. It's not bloated and have yet to come across a webpage it cant load correctly. I have used many of the builds prior to this release and this is a winner

ArKay74

ArKay74 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Get some glasses Zaine and shut up already ;)

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

One question: at what point will Mozilla decide to render basic HTML properly — 2005, '06, '07? Or is it content to garble page after page after page? It's unacceptable that this browser can't properly render most news and blogs, folks. If that's progress over IE, count me out, because I don't use IE either. (And PLEASE spare me the evangelical-republican screed about never criticizing Open Source software. If it's substandard, then it needs time and work.)

URAWMD

URAWMD reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Does IE do RSS feed yet?

mybootcom

mybootcom reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

I used to be a big promoter of Internet Exploder. In fact, I still have a Tshirt emblazoned with the big blue lowercase e that I used to wear around. Furthermore, I've built my career around supporting Microsoft product. Furthermore, I've never been a big open source, Linux, etc sort of person.

Having said all that, I ditched Internet Exploder some time ago. It's bloated. Its easy to end up with a whole arsenal of spyware installed on my machine. The vulnerabilities were coming once or twice a week. And worst of all, having beaten up the competition, Microsoft hasn't significantly improved the browser in years. Cmon, tabbed browsing doesn't require research. It's a no brainer.

Firefox. In short: lite as a kite / non-bloatware, few if any popups, (for me) 98% compatible with the sites I visit, FAST FAST FAST, skinable, highly configurable/tweakable, and the ability to add extentions to further the abilities of the browser is fantastic. I could go on and on.

In closing, this is not hype. Quit being such a pesimist and download it.

Grandpas

Grandpas reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Madk0w seems to say that IE is better than Firefox; IE is well suited for windows because both products (IE and Windows) are from the same builder (microsoft). Following this, you can add that any non-microsoft program is not adapted to Windows ... Please, Madk0w, use your brain: there is some guys in this world who knows how to develop a software and what a standard means.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

It's ok for what it is, but most of these people giving 5's and talking about how Firefox saved their dog from drowning are full of it. They're zealots, and like all zealots they are blind to the truth and are most likely dangerous. I'd give FF a 2 1/2 to a 3, but since some of them keep giving 1's to the IE shells, I'll give FF a 1 to even things out.

QBgreen

QBgreen reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

madk0w doesn't get it. He/she/it can stay with the archaic, hole ridden IE engine and all of its disguises. If you place a mink stole on a swine, it's still a swine.

The enlightened and those that are fed up with patch after patch will be delighted with Firefox now, and well into the future.

madk0w

madk0w reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Firefox is just one big hype.

Believe me, i did give in to that hype at a certain point, just to see why people were being so hyped about.

I just don't get it, firefox doesn't please me with the features i need, and on top of that friends of mine, that just didn't know better and went along installing firefox were blown away with the features i could present them with this alternative browser i use. They imediatly uninstalled firefox and went for product 'x'.

I know a lot of firefox 'hardore' fans don't like iexplorer alternatives just because it uses just that and imo, they have no clue what they talk about, just think about it, this is a review for firefox running on a windows machine.

Do i need to say more?

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Simply the best browser for me. It helped me get rid of all popups and spywre I was getting thru Internet Explorer. Firefox also loads pages quite a bit faster. A very important thing for me is also that it is regularly translated into my mother language. I can't live without tabs anymore and the support for new internet standards is superb. It is great to be using a modern and secure browser. Thanks for this awsome piece of software Mozilla team!

qaelith_2112

qaelith_2112 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

I seem to be stuck in the "refute the earlier reviews" mode today, so here we go again. Mozilla *CAN* be dropped in to replace IE, as I have proven over the last year on every machine I use (several at home, one at work), my wife's two systems, my mother's system, my sister's system, and every other friend or family member's systems that I've set up. My brother has a "No IE" rule in his own house (he's sick of drive-by spyware), and his wife hasn't begun to miss IE. I have kept the "User-Agent Switcher" extension installed on every copy, and I only had one site that even needed it (a bank) until 9 months ago when they realized that their site works fine with Gecko browsers and stopped arbitrarily blocking the "wrong" UA's.

That being said, my wife's school is probably the ONLY site I've seen where IE must be used, and only in one portion of the site that contains very buggy code that actually renders on IE.

I will disagree with the suggestion of conforming to IE's nonstandard crap for the sake of 100% site compatibility. Sites that are poorly coded using nonstandard crap or conforming to IE's rendering bugs or IE's willingness to render garbage code should not be deliberately supported. The site developers will never have incentive to fix it if every browser will render it. At the moment Firefox/Mozilla hasn't gained quite the momentum to encourage fixes for these messy coding practices, but if the foundation hits their goal of having a 10% market in a year (and it looks reachable or exceedable), that's a real share that could encourage cleanup in a majority of these. Rendering the crap will definitely NOT get us there. I'm willing to live with the occasional (and quite uncommon) site that doesn't render quite right or the one out of several hundred that doesn't work at all if it will have a chance of encouraging a cleanup of some (most?) of the mess over the next couple of years.

SFAMonkey

SFAMonkey reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Blocks ton of spyware, cookies, etc... Great browser. Themes extension.

Great for protecting your privacy. IE: Credit cards, paypal,email etc...

Domingo

Domingo reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Donwloaded and installed it...it's nice to see that's it's a small file and not really bloated with anything I don't need.

At the same time...I don't really have a reason to use it either. The program starts up slower than IE, which IMO negates the slight speed increase for loading pages. I don't really have any issues with spyware/adware/pop-ups as SP2 more or less fixed any issues I'd ever had (which AdAware confirms for me).

It might be a great browser but in all reality, it's not the 2nd coming like some people seem to be implying. It's a web browser and it looks and works just like any other one, IE included.

If you have IE and don't have any issues with spyware and don't care about having tabs instead of new windows...why bother?

Tylius

Tylius reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

sn0wflake, I'm not sure why you're having those issues loading those two web addresses. I load them in 1.0 Final, and they work fine for me.

Firefox is by far the best browser I've tried, and I've used a lot of them. I occasionally switch to IE just to see the new improvements on the 3rd party clients, but, I always switch back because using Adblock, and the built-in popup blocker. I don't get any popups, and I practically never see an ad.

IE clients generally have half-assed popup-blocking, and the adblocking is pretty horrid.

Go FireFox!
It *is*, the drop-in IE replacement! (with the exception of those few IE only damned websites)

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Hurrey!Finally,firefox1.0 has arrived and better than ever.Plz!shift from 'hall-of-famer',Mozilla Suite,which will probably get to 1.8 next december.
Anyhow,kudos to Mozilla Team for a great piece of software and plz! be more swifter with releases of firefox,otherwise...........Mozilla's condition is for all to see!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

The reviewer below me states you can't drop it in place of IE and have it work. I have planned on doing just that-- my test case of 5 installs with users with RC's has zero complaints and many praises. These are attorneys with time on their minds-- they just want to be able to browse and research like they normally would. I am not exxagerating-- *zero* complaints making it their default browser.

Adding default plug-ins is not what I want. I don't nessesarily want flash or shockwave for every install. However, for all people I will install these, adblock, java VM, and media player classic. Why? Those extentions give them a safe, quick, annoy-free experience in comparison to IE. I also turn off most javascript, and show them how to use tabs effectively. This browser really opens people's eyes when I take them through a short 5-minute demo. They had no idea that you can browse safely without spyware, without annoyances, without frustrations. 5 stars.

roj

roj reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

First off, let's dispense with the fanboy-isms and make one thing perfectly clear:

You cannot do a drop-in replacement for IE with this browser for a few key reasons, not the least of which are the more than a few IE-only sites and Windows Update (even the most Mozilla-centric will have to admit that this last is kind of hard to miss, no?).

Now before all of you “faithful” get your shorts in a bunch, let me iterate the good things about Firefox:

It's small

It's relatively quick

It's got a nice plugin architecture

It's got a nice interface

Gecko finally appears to be sanitized

It's open source (that can be both a plus and a liability)

That's all very nice but it's still not good enough. There are however some things the Mozilla team CAN do to make it good enough to be the number one browser. Here's the short list:

1)Ditch Mozilla and concentrate on Firefox / Thunderbird. It's time. The elephant in a tutu is bloated, slow and buggy and the resources spent propping it up would be better allocated to improving FireFox and Thunderbird.

2)Support the actual web standards in use out in the Internet and not just the “academic” ones. Face reality people: IE is and remains the standard. If you want full drop-in compatibility, you'll have to support those extensions and stop flogging the old hackneyed excuses about only supporting “open standards”. That and a buck will get you a cup of coffee in the real world. I mean, you know you have to be doing something wrong when you need IE for Yahoo Launch and even the IBM site (both of which are supported by Netscape and Opera, by the way). I have the same thing to say to those shortsighted folks who blame the browser's inability to display a page on "shoddy or incompatible web design" or say "screw 'em" to organizations like Yahoo because their music video services won't work with it. Bottom line: it's a BROWSER. It's job is to display web content. If it doesn't, it needs an update or a fix, take your pick. Period. Forget the religion - that has no place in a user-oriented world. As an aside, that also applies to Thunderbird. You'll have much more credibility when you support Hotmail. I remember a petulant quote from one Mozilla dev saying that he wouldn't waste his valuable time supporting Microsoft standards. To him I have only one thing to say: “grow up, kid - it's called beating them at their own game”.

3)Contact the open source folks who write GAIM and integrate their stuff seamlessly into Firefox. MS did and it's been an advantage. If you want to be one of the big boys, you have to learn to play like one of them.

4)Forget the cheap (or not so cheap) grandstanding. Taking out a full page ad isn't going to make you a household word like IE is. Implementing the previous three suggestions to the point that the New York Times sees fit to report on their own that you are El Numero Uno on Page One of their tech supplement will.

So, four stars for a superb work in progress that shows great promise. You've taken the first step down the road – however, you've got a long one ahead of you.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Then I suppose I will give it another 5 to "even out" bungholes idiotic post where he admits to giving it a 1 just to spite those who like Firefox. There always has to be a troll, wherever you go.

sn0wflake

sn0wflake reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Something went horribly wrong between 0.9 and 1.0 because I'm experiencing random page rendering errors so I'm only giving Firefox a 3 point rating. See what I mean at home20.inet.tele.dk/sn0wflake/images/overflow.jpg and home20.inet.tele.dk/sn0wflake/images/overflow2.jpg

marcos_cu

marcos_cu reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

It seems IE will never get CSS right, not in longhorn, not ever. On the other hand, firefox offers great support for CSS 1 and 2 and it also offers an excellent quirks mode to stay compatible with IE-centric websites.

I used to be an IE and later a Maxthon user. Needless to say, I was plagued by the spyware problem, the endless popups and ad banners (somewhat relieved by maxthon) and most importantly, the crawling speed. My computer will come into a perpetual stall when it view graphics heavy pages.

Firefox saved my web experience by providing me with fast rendering speed, lack of web annoyances (internal javascript control kills websites that disables context menu and adblock extension kills banners), spell checking (spellbound.sf.net provides the spellbound extension) etc. It also has the convenient live bookmarks RSS integration (no need to check every news site for updates!) I mean it makes surfing a breeze!

I really think you should give firefox a serious trial, you will like it and never look back at the old, clunky Internet Explorer.

rdburke

rdburke reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Finally what we have been waiting for is here, a viable alternative to IE. All the development work at Mozilla has paid off and the benefactor is the end user that switches to Firefox. Thanks for all your hard work. I am recommending Firefox to all of my clients, co-workers, and Family.

Thanks,
R.D.Burke
Assistant Manager
WindowsXPCentral.net
rdburke@windowsxpcentral.net

WickedLester

WickedLester reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

This browser is the best. I made the switch from IE and have never looked back. The extensions makes the usability and features limitless.

lzvk25

lzvk25 reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

All Hail Firefox !!!
The greatest browser on earth.

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Just tacking on another (deserved) 5-star review to push Captain Dork's comments further off the page....

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

The best browser since at least 0.6. And you can change the behaviour of the browser to whatever you want with the extensions. Highly recommended!

Heffel

Heffel reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Finally we reached version 1.0 - great.I love Firefox, it means a lot more than just IE replacement.

Captain Hook - You can't be serious...

WebWarp

WebWarp reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Captain Hook --> Captain Noob ???

It's the best - Ugot2

Captain Hook

Captain Hook reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

EDIT: WebWarp, Your'e sooo intelligent.
Why don't you show us all how to solve these problems instead of your very wise and intelligent two word comment. My test was made out of an ordinary users perpective. This was the result.
And how many of the 600 million Internet users do you think are as intelligent as you are that can make the switch as painless as you probably have done?

I don't know what I am doing wrong here but I have many problems with this browser. I tested Firefox for the first time but out it goes pretty quick.

1. Updates hangs
2. Plugin finder service is just hanging
3. All Icons in favorites are gone. I have many with a blank character for name (supported by the OS but not by Firefox). This makes room for many Bookmarks in the top Bar, but you need the Icons to see the difference between them.
4. 18 out of 20 tested pages with Java are not working. None of the in our company websites spread all over the net. And they are many.
5. Not one av 16 Webcam pages used for surveillance are working anymore.
6. Passwords are gone for pages using the Windows Logon requester.

These issues were found in just 45 minutes. Not good at all!

I hope they will fix this very soon or else you can't replace IE with this Browser.

Josh P.

Josh P. reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

The best just got better! Firefox 1.0 is out and by is it hotttt!

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v1.0 Final on Nov 9, 2004

Finally, The best Browser Ever....

Yuppppppppppp...

Amazing...

chardz19

chardz19 reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 8, 2004

i was using IE, but i switched to firefox recently. IE gave me a lot of problems, like errors, hang-ups, & lock-ups. so far, i encountered no hassles whatsoever. it's quite fast actually, especially when downloading files (i'm getting at LEAST 100kbps - compare to IE @ 50kbps). it also has a pop-up blocker that really is helpful. i'm looking forward for the release of 1.0. if you are looking for an alternative browser, this has got to be on top of your list.

phead

phead reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 8, 2004

Firefox is great when one is opening lots of web-pages at one time. It keeps on working when IE would hang up.

asellus

asellus reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 8, 2004

An Opera user tested the browser (maybe I don't have to upgrade to v8 in the future) and my conclusion is:-

- Great skins option.
- Awesome mouse gestures.
- Fast website rendering.

But the lowdown of this browser that probably will keep me from a complete switch is the lack of an extender menu for the tab toolbar. This will make reading the tab title when a lot of them are open harder. Posted a question at http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=157018 and no one answered the question, so maybe it can't be done after all.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 7, 2004

I wish people would stop saying that Firefox is the fastest. It isn't. Fastest in order are: 1)K-Meleon 2)Opera 3)IE 4)Firefox That's right it's dead last. What's the opposite term of FUD? Cause that's what most of these people are spewing.

Josh P.

Josh P. reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 7, 2004

Very decent browser, secure, fast, extendable, easy to use, and fun!

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 6, 2004

Previous post removed for no good reason.

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

I REALLY wish they wouldn't break compatibility with older themes / extensions every minor release.

QBgreen

QBgreen reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

Recommended to all that I deal with, this browser is the now and the future. Folks need to remeber that this is JUST getting to its first full point release. If it inspires other authors to make a better browser, terrific. If not, so be it.

jonspencerbx

jonspencerbx reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

ultramancool: I really wonder if you ever even tried opera for at least a whole day (not five minutes) Opera is at least equally good as firefox. They both have a different approach. Opera gives you a LOT of features, which you can diasable or ignore if you don't need them. Firefox gives you just a browser and if you want more you can install extensions. The approach is different, but both the programs are very good.

ultramancool

ultramancool reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

the perfect browser.
Every platform.
Fully expandable.
Better Than IE and Opera
Opera Sucks (a bit less than ie though)
IE Sucks The Most
FIREFOX IS THE ONLY BROWSER THAT'S DECENT!

rdburke

rdburke reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

Although I hope I am wrong, I do not believe Firefox in it's present form will ever be "Your Mother's Browser". I believe that alot of people will try it and go right back to IE just because it is much harder to configure for everyday use. The release posted here is a nighly build and there will be other releases before the final next month I'm sure. I am using it and I find no problems so far. It just needs to be easier for the novice user for them to see it as an alternative to IE.
Thanks,
R.D.Burke
rdburke@bellsouth.net

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

I think you got that backwards. The preview release is obviously going to be a lot buggier than an RC release. These are release candidates, meaning this should be the final 1.0 version. As far as serious bugs I have been using Firefox for over a year and I haven't seen the first one myself. Very fast, very stable.

engelbdo

engelbdo reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

Yeah, what are you on about!! Firefox will be a little slow on a 486 DX4 100! You probably need a new PC! Firefox is defenitely the Ultimate in Internet Browsers out there!!

morganevans

morganevans reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

I've used Firefox since, well, forever and I've viewed hundreds of websites without ever having it crash. I've very rarely had any problems with any of the Betas or RCs.

It's an excellent product. Keep up the good work!

pdadad

pdadad reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

If you don't want to test out the beta, the 1.0PR version has been very stable, versatile, fast and fun to use for me.

FYI:
http://weblogs.mozillazi...sa/archives/006789.html

veky

veky reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

Inray, can u write thes 5-6 "serious" bugs?

Slow? It's super fast, what are u talking about?!?

Inray

Inray reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

I try FireFox, every time a new build is released but still find it slow and buggy. This time, few minutes using it was enough to find 5-6 serious bugs. That makes me wonder what FF beta testers really do...

kernelsn

kernelsn reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

FireFox is the BEST browser.

FredBezies

FredBezies reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

So much FUD from last review.

It is far more secure than IE or any of its IE-based browser like the "every-3 days new beta"-AvantBrowser.

Since september 2002, I am using Firefox (called phoenix at this time), and since, I saw about 95% of the web pages I am visiting.

Last 5% ? Windows Update and other ActiveX based pages, pages with crappy and obsolete browser-sniffing.

But can webmasters see we're in 2004, and not longer in 1997 while the browser war ?

If you are not that smart to see the power of open-source software, why are you FUDing here ?

Please, don't take it bad, but your review stinks like rotten meat.

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

I love Firefox because it's faster, smaller, more reliable and renders web pages much better. Visit any number of news sites and they are a jumbled mess with text that is easily modifiable under Firefox with a shift+mousewheel. Fiddle with the settings and you still have complete control over what you are getting — fix one javascript setting and see popups and hijacks stop--period. Just because it's free don't make it worth having folks, and FF has some more growing up to do, which is why I love it: IE development has stopped--for good and bad. For now adblock is far superior to anything on the IE side makes, and when Google releases Gbrowser, Firefox's days are numbered higher as both work together in harmony. Like most folks, I expect more from a browser than consistent screwups and one bug after another.

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

While I'll get trashed for criticizing anything under the Open Source moniker, I'd love Firefox if it were faster, smaller, more reliable and rendered web pages much better. Visit any number of news sites and they are a jumbled mess with huge text under Firefox. Why it continues to have problems rendering standard HTML is beyond me. For proof, open the following page first in IE/IE variant and then in Firefox:
http://www.turtlenecksoftware.com/bah-humbug.htm

In IE/NetCaptor, the page renders properly. In Firefox, the div tag refuses to size relative to its parent table (and doesn’t provide scrollbars), which causes the bottom toolbar to disappear past the edge of the screen.

Fiddle with the settings and you still have no idea what you're getting — fix one font setting just to ruin others. Just because it's free don't make it worth having folks, and FF has some more growing up to do. For now NetCaptor is far superior, and when Google releases Gbrowser, Firefox's days are definitely numbered as a relic. Like most folks, I expect more from a browser than consistent screwups and one bug after another. Bottom line is that the browser should adapt to the widest variety of websites, not vice versa. That's that game Microsoft played with IE against Netscape and it failed.

kiwibank

kiwibank reviewed v1.0 RC2 on Nov 4, 2004

mozilla firefox=heaven
internet explorer=hell......

you choose.....

and i tried maxthon (and every other browser known to man)...what a load of plugin crap...if you`ve got 512mb of ram or higher who gives a s*** about minor resource consumption issues...it`s just hairsplitting (and sidesplitting watching microsofts obvious discomfort at the market success that mozilla is deservedly enjoying)...eat you heart out IE6.....

koffliner

koffliner reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 31, 2004

Ok, I was convinced by a friend to give Firefox a good old test run. He promised me it would be great!

Unfortunately it seems everything went wrong... The download was huge, and when I got it installed it looked almost exactly like IE!

So I asked my friend and he told me about extensions.

But then I figured out that extensions are sort of like IE's ActiveX, and we all know how insecure that is. And yes indeed, extension security is a serious issue as discussed here:

http://forums.mozillazin.../viewtopic.php?t=149844

But anyway, I thought I'd trust Mozilla Corp.'s policy on this and give it a shot.

Ugh.

Extensions were sort of thrown in my face and when I tried one it didn't work very well. Suddenly the fox started crashing on me!

It couldn't render Slashdot correctly either, and that was the last straw...

Firefox has very little functionality, and its extensions are insecure. If you do drop the "paranoia" and install them, the browser goes bananas on you.

Thanks, but no thanks... :(

cometfan

cometfan reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 31, 2004

Firefox runs smoothly on my 448 mhz PII with 192 MB RAM "Internet Computer", something I could never have imagined when I tried the first Netscape 6 Preview Release a few years ago. It's also rock stable and right now there are 175 more or less useful extensions available from update.mozilla.org. As for memory usage, there's still some work to be done. But right now I have 15 tabs open and Firefox uses approx. 53 MB of RAM, which I think is absolutely okay. Overall, simply the best browser in the world!

konline

konline reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 29, 2004

A breath of fresh air. I've used web browsers since the days of NCSA Mosaic (what IE ripped off) and have used everything from IE, Maxthon, Opera to Firefox, and by far my most pleasant experience has been with Firefox. The install was painless and fast. All of my settings were imported so that I didn't need to fiddle with it to get it to work like my old browser (IE) used to.

I especially enjoy the power it has in its simplistic interface. It's easy to use, but has a TON of customizations you can do. It has a turbo mode which I've noticed speeds it up even more than what it is 'out of the box'. Try opening the URL "about:config" and be amazed at the powerful tweaking it allows! I will never go back to anything else. No annoying ad banners like Opera, and yet all the features are still there.

Oh yeah, and don't get caught up in the debate about memory usage. It's a bogus attempt to make it look bigger. IE is integrated into Windows so it's memory is spread out over many different names, whereas Firefox's is in one file... firefox.exe.

Either you will download it and love it, or hate it. If it is the latter, you just have a closed mind.

Nikkita

Nikkita reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 29, 2004

Everybody around is praising Mozilla Firefox 1.0PR browser. Everyday I hear: "Switch to Firefox! Switch to Firefox!" Though I'm quite satisfied with my current browser I decided to try what is very special about that Firefox. Below are some of my impressions.

First, it took me unreasonably long time to download the setup Firefox file. OK, I understand: when the epidemic is in full swing...

I noticed that in most cases they compare Firefox to IE. OK, I use IE, let's compare. To be exact I use MaxThon Light 1.1 (former MyIE) which works on IE engine. For those who don't know: it's totally different experience to use IE and MaxThon. I left IE itself two years ago and now I can't even imagine how I could work with it before switching to MyIE...

They say Firefox is fast. Yes, it's quite fast but not faster than MaxThon.

They say that Firefox is great because it offers tab-browsing. MaxThon offers the same. The only difference is that MaxThon tabs are much more customizable and convenient to use. Example: I like my tabs to be at the bottom of the screen. I can do it with MaxThon, in Firefox I haven't found such option. As well as many other options which are available in MaxThon: in other words MaxThon offers EVERYTHING offered in Firefox + much more.

In general Firefox interface and options are quite limited if not primitive (I know that it's possible to add so called extensions but hundreds of MaxThon plugins offer much more). I do like simple and ascetic apps because they usually take less of your computer resources. Is it the case with Firefox? Nothing of the kind! Firefox takes at least TWICE as much resources as MaxThon does! Example of memory usage (at the moment both browsers are on with one window or tab opened in each of them): Firefox - 12,384 K, MaxThon - 9,612 K; with 5 same websites opened (approx.): Firefox - 32,00 K, MaxThon - 17,000 K.

And now security. They say that IE (and thus MaxThon) is more vulnerable to various malware. Quite possible it's true but during last two years that I have been using MaxThon I never had any virus infected my machine: I simply do know how to behave when you work in the internet and I also use three layers of effective security apps.

The only thing I really like in Firefox is its graphical design.

That's why I don't understand all that fuss we can see over Firefox. That's why I consider it to be some kind of infectious disease...

The bottom line: If you are not too computer savvy and need something not very convenient but simple to use, if you are not too concerned about your system resources go for Firefox. If you would like to have more options, if you know how to secure your computer using standalone apps, if you are limited with resources go for MaxThon Light.

witch3r

witch3r reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 29, 2004

NICE

Applied

Applied reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

Is there a list of changes for this version?

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

With this version it has the same app version numbers as the final release so it won't warn you when it's out.

fanbanlo it hasn't crashed for me with java plugin. This release was intended to get extension owners up to date and identify any critical missed bugs ala 0.9 release. You won't find this for the general public on Mozilla's website hence why there aren't many extensions updated yet.

thehunger you can close a tab off by clicking once with the middle mouse button (scroll wheel) to close a tab off.

robmanic44

robmanic44 reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

Nothing particularly wrong with Firefox, but it has a longway to go to catch up with Opera. If you compare them feature for feature Opera just crushes Firefox.

mrmagoo

mrmagoo reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

It's really buggy using the plugins and without the plugins there is no real use for the software. And when it hangs (for example a webpage) its hard to try to delete the history etc. to restore it to normal again.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

a good alternative to IE or a trojan horse designed to spread the message of furries? you decide. give opera a try, too. they don't support deviants.

thehunger

thehunger reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

Awesome browser. I wish some of Tab-based browser extensions would become part of the core product, or at least installed by default. I guess Firefox is so lean because it avoids this, but sometimes it seems a little silly to have to install an extension just to be able to close a tab with a double click.

Anyway, help spread the love for this browser.
Visit www.spreadfirefox.com, consider making a contribution and AT LEAST tell all your friends about Firefox.

tp

tp reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

i concur with fanbanlo... the latest versions are leaving the plugins behind and its a pain.. but they will catch up.. firefox is the bomb though..

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

The best browser. I use it since 0.6 as my default browser. It is quick, safe and you can add whatever feature you want with extensions. Highly recommended.

Danny7

Danny7 reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

It's just a great browser. It even got faster than the previous PR release.

@fanbanlo
For plugins workaround - go to:
C:|Documents and Settings|*USER*|Application Data|Mozilla|Firefox|Profiles|*random*.default|extensions|
Open the "Extensions.rdf" file in WordPad and replace all(w/o the brackets) (maxVersion="0.10") by (maxVersion="1.0").
Problem solved.;)

nitrous0rangez

nitrous0rangez reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

web browser paling best

fanbanlo

fanbanlo reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

Don't misunderstand me. Install PR1 (last stable version), do NOT install this latest buggy RC1!!! A lot less plug-in's will work, and crash the first time if you have Sun's JAVA Plug-in installed.

Dreimanis

Dreimanis reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

great browser thingy

Rebell

Rebell reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 28, 2004

German: Der BESTE Browser den es momentan gibt !
Absolut schnell, super Funktionen und sicher - was will man mehr ? cya ;-)

Joco

Joco reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

To all novices computer users I helped to clean up the spywares, I showed them Firefox. After about a day to get used to tabbed browsing and the middle-click, they ALL get hooked.

What they wanted is a secured browser to surf the Internet. Not a crap overloaded with tons of useless features, which, incidentally, is subject to too much security flaws.

davegod75

davegod75 reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

simply the best browser out there. Gets better with each release

cdrom600

cdrom600 reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

This is the best Web browser there is. I've been using it for months now and I love it. It's fast, bree, and secure - plus I'm addicted to tabbed browsing. And I love being able to get extensions to do anything!

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

just better with every new release...
Waiting for the Final version 1...Nov 9 2004

chowmein

chowmein reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

What's to say?

Less security holes. Smarter programming [tabs, popup blocking].

Its a must have for any serious web surfer :)

Steve11375

Steve11375 reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

WOW, MUCH improved performance from the 1.0PR release, this browser is a 5 anyday now

kernelsn

kernelsn reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

The BEST OF BEST BROWSER. !!!!!!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

fanbanlo, if you uninstall previous FF version, then install RC, java should work fine.

When 1.0 is final/gold there will be no need to uninstall/reinstall, you'll be able to install patches/extensions/themes seamlessly through FF itself.

Nigma

Nigma reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

Yeah, Firefox is one of the best IE browsers so far, a must have or atleast a must test it :)

zridling

zridling reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

I like Firefox and continue to support it financially, but I can't wait for the free Google browser (Gbrowser) to come out, which will integrate far more pages than Mozilla cares to.

tobypowell

tobypowell reviewed v1.0 RC1 on Oct 27, 2004

Mozilla Firefox, with the Extension architecture, and the (now) reliable gecko engine is poised to become a serious player in the browser market.

Try it now.

If you don't like it after a month, then leave it for three and come back and try it again.

Either way, try it before you knock it. Please?

themafia_69

themafia_69 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 21, 2004

BEST THING TO HAPPEND TO BROWSERS!
it has the best plugins also (foxy tunes etc)
faster more secure, and better than ie, im sick of ie and its g** problems (png's etc)
also it has a cool feature to search many sites on the top right and u can add sites just right click and say add more sites, takes u to a search search for the site u want, and it will add it to the toolbar

foobah

foobah reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 6, 2004

Awesome.
Oh, to speed up ff loading, in the location bar, 'goto'
about:config
then filter for
browser.turbo
and change the value to true
restart.

funky303

funky303 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 6, 2004

to the problem of IE starting faster compared to Firefox. Yes it does, but with a dirty trick of M$. Many parts of the IE are loaded in the memory at system start so a regular start takes just few seconds.

FF is the best browser as it is small, fast & yet so popular that websites are made compatible for it and it's plugin system is very good also.

i'm using it since 0.4

poedguy

poedguy reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 4, 2004

in response to BlackShuck's comment: Do you even know what Firefox is? It's built on the most secure browser in the world, Mozilla. Firefox has increased security way more than Internet Explorer and it has been targeted by hackers, not as much as IE, but that is because of the popularity of IE. Before you go saying these things get your facts straight next time.

lasaersr1

lasaersr1 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 4, 2004

I have used Firefox as my main browser since .8, it
just keeps getting better. Many thanks to the Mozilla guys.

kmleow

kmleow reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 4, 2004

As for the slowness as commented by someone, I noticed that too, IE loads the images so much faster also. For IE, I tweaked the maximum HTTP connections to 10. Same for Firefox, but the Firefox loads images slower anyhow.

For HTML tables, traditionally Mozilla/Netscape loads tables slower than IE, I remember seeing one benchmark on this before.

Apart from the slow rendering mentioned above, there are good points to note on Firefox. There are some websites that force you to accept ActiveX or else they will not let you proceed to a different page. This ActiveX might be some keylogger, spyware, etc. If you use Firefox and disable auto-installation of programs, you need not worry about this problem.

BlackShuck

BlackShuck reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 4, 2004

Considerably slower than IE6 on all my systems at loading webpages (there is a test here..)

http://scragz.com/tech/m...test-rendering-time.php

IE6 takes 2 seconds, Firefox takes 6 :-(

Firefox has no proven security track record, and may be more insecure than IE, nobosy knows that until the hackers decide to target it, when this happens, it may simply fall apart at the seams.

I'm sticking to IE, it's faster, and I know where I stand on security (XP SP2, it pretty good, ActiveX holes are now blocked, and I don't get any more spyware coming in).

tobypowell

tobypowell reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 4, 2004

YAY go firefox

FYI this is an interim security release for the preview release, and so still a security release.

Go here for more information
http://mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=5351

rburly

rburly reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Can you say FASTER? I knew you could! Wow, I don't know what change was made, but the browser gets me to the page significantly faster than previous versions.

I also noticed the Bandwidth Tester as a function under "Tools". A great browser made better! Keep up the great work.

felix

felix reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Is this a preview release or final? The title is misleading. Great browser though. Definitely need a standard in web browsing.

marcos_cu

marcos_cu reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Hi, i think its the little things that matters. Like the ability to add RSS feeds to your bookmarks or the extension manager with tons of neat little plugins just two clicks away. Or that if you do not enter a valid url ff will start searching for that term and refering you to the best matching site. Or the new search function that highlights all matches within the document (just like google) and even shows you when it reached the bottom of your page. Have you seen the new plugin installer? You can actualy download and install a plugin (suchas Macromedia Flash) within the ff interface. If I remember correctly when ie first asked for the flash plugin i had to go to the macromedia website, look for the winstaller, download it, install,... well it took way longer.
Oh and the "tabbed-browsing" thing is quite cool to. you can have a dozend sites opend without having them all in your taksbar as some tiny little button where you never know if you hit the right one ;)
And you can middle-click a bookmark folder and all containing sites will show up!

well as you surely recognized, im not a native english speaker but i believe you got my point.
bye!

Drevor

Drevor reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

"only marginaly superior in only limited areas of IE6, and even failing in other areas"
... such as?

here are my points:
+ fast and accurate adopting of new internet standards
+ almost immediate responses to discoverd security holes
+ Introduction of new (never been seen in a browser) features
+ Fast loading even without beeing partly integrated and preloaded by your Operating system

on the other hand:
- MS has not yet adopted CSS2 (not even CSS1 correctly) while moz is already going for CSS3
-_IF_ MS was reacting to reported holes they almost took _A_YEAR_ to publish a bugfix
- uhm...well...they called the bookmarks favorites...OH! wait the favicon! that was new! (6 years ago)
- on my i-wont-run-ie-more-than-once-a-month-system IE takes even longer than FF

... the only reason to use the IE is when some (small minded*) webprogrammer still insists of using a ActiveX control...

*i am a webdev and i used to use activex controls
only if there was no other way and even then only
intranet environments... now the only reason for me to start the internet explorer is to verify that IE doesnt screw up my designs

CyberHobo

CyberHobo reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Why so much hype about a browser that is only marginaly superior in only limited areas of IE6, and even failing in other areas. And finally, FF only "seems" to be quicker than IE6. You do the math...

Zulithe

Zulithe reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Not much I can say that hasn't already been said about this revolutionary browser. Download it, learn it, use it, love it. You won't be sorry! And make sure to check out some of the great extentions at update.mozilla.org, especially Adblock.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

OK, this has simply gotten confusing. What is it? It's version "1.0", but it's also "Preview Release", and "0.10.1", and, oh--"Final".

I guess all we really need to know is that it's not IE.

[Nice essay from roj, as always. Now go sell Insecure Explorer to the poor folks who suffered from its insecurities.]

apg88

apg88 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

I also have almost relpaced IE with FireFox.It is a great browser that works really well. I like many features that IE doesnt have, like themes, download manager, etc...
It is impossible to replace IE completely, because some web sites use ActiveX content or other IE only features, that can not be displayed in FireFox.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Well I HAVE replaced IE completely with this; so roj are you saying that makes me a fool? Thanks a lot. I am curious as to what you mean by "restricting the browsing experience too much"? That's a load of crap to put it mildly. The only site I still need IE for is Windows Update. EVERY other site I visit works perfectly fine with Firefox. I don't know about Yahoo launch videos; don't even know what they are and honestly couldn't care less. If Yahoo can't stick to web standards than screw them.

roj

roj reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

In defense of IE and to negate the nonsense hype surrounding it contained in several reviews here, the exploits are generally played up FAR more than they are actually significant. We in IT Security tend to view many (but not all) of them as "mitigated risks". Also, the comment about waiting months for a fix from Microsoft is typical anti-MS drivel and utterly false. I am yet to see *any* exploit that took MS months to fix - EVER.

What many of those jumping on the oh-so-trendy anti-MS bandwagon typically fail to realize is that when you're Number One, you have a tendency to attract the majority of the malcontents, naysayers and also the miscreants. If Firefox had one one-hundredth of the popularity and distribution of IE, I do believe we'd see a MUCH different picture vis a vis its so-called "security".

All that being said, the browser is very well put together, certainly a far cry from its ill-conceived and poorly executed predecessor, Mozilla. The plugin architecture is well thought out and the speed of the browser is excellent.

However, glaring holes remain such as the inability to play Yahoo launch videos and the robustness of the Gecko engine upon which it is based remains in question, especially regarding memory leaks. Indeed, many of the issues have been resolved but we'll continue to see variations crop up for some time yet.

I certainly would not replace IE with this browser (IMO only a fool would - it would still restict the browsing experience too much) but I would most definitely use it alongside it. After all, IE is THE web browser standard - period - unless of course you're afflicted with chronic myopia.

Four stars for a well conceived and executed work-in-progress.

Arutha

Arutha reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Unlike IE, Firefox is being made with security as a number one priority. Firefox is a more modern and better writen borwser than IE and will therefore always be saffer, no matter how popular the browser gets.

Firefox also has got more functionality (trough the extensions), tabbed browsing, RSS feed and many other features.

Try it, you wont be disappointed !

PeterReaper

PeterReaper reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Once you try Firefox, staying with it will be a no-brainer. :-)

http://www.getfirefox.com/

PlacidBlueAlien

PlacidBlueAlien reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Yes, there have been recent security holes found by and patched by the people at Mozilla. If the reason not to use Firefox is this, you had best take a look at Internet Explorer with it's open issues even with SP2. Don't delude yourself as Firefox is still the safer browser and continues to be with fast responses to security issues. Feel free to go to a security website like Secunia and find out more. IE can not say it has been completely secured as there are so many open issues out. I believe there was a post made by the Mozilla organization that was more in depth or at least worded better. Firefox still has a bit to go but their showing right now even with the prerelease candidates is much stronger than how -plain- IE 6 sp2 is currently on all grounds from security to functionality.

jed

jed reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Excelent. Best release ever, and the nightlies are even better.
Sure, there was a security flaw. Difference is, it's really easy to update, the turn around from "reported to fixed" was extremly fast, and it wasn't even that critical. Not like IE which has over 3 flaws un patched even with SP2 that are extremly critical.
All in all the is the best, most up-to-date browser on the market.

finalcut

finalcut reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

A revolution!
like Ben said in an interview, FF allow us to see website like we used to do way before. Before popups/ads/spam/etc

the best of all

pediod

Aaroniekins

Aaroniekins reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Mark Gillespie, IE SP2 is NOT secure
its the most insecure browser out there
Spyware and adware still seep through it, popups do as well

Firefox is immune to all that, ONE security bug gets found and people cry IE IS SO SECURE, when its NOT

SFAMonkey

SFAMonkey reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

Always gets better. It has less none open high security bugs as known right now. better then ie, safer then ie, and the best.

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

My question is, HOW does everyone know that Firefox is secure? Answer: They don't, ot they heard it's secure from their mates...

Firefox has no track record on security, it's not even had a 1.0 release yet, none of the script kiddies and hackers have even attempted to hit it with security exploits, until it gets serious browser share, that's not gonna happen, then you will REALLY see if it's secure.

For me, i'll stick to IE at the moment, as in the XP SP2 incarnation, I have no problems at all, I don't get popups, I don't get unwanted activeX controls and it works with 100% of the sites out there..

SCarrier11

SCarrier11 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10.1) Final on Oct 3, 2004

http://forums.mozillazin...331bcc5b0b1f8bac1ac7295

israeli

israeli reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 30, 2004

i was using only netscape in the 90's till i moved to israel.
here nothing works with netscape.
everything is made for IE.
this Firefox works with everything real fast.
i can't belive it's netscape.
and only 4.5 mb
i wanted to rate it 10 but the max is 5

fUnkYth99

fUnkYth99 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 28, 2004

Excellent, getting better with every new release. I was using Maxthon before simultaneously, but since verion 0.9.3 I keep with Firefox only for web browsing.
Only a suggestion: for the average user it's still to complicated to find out how to use the stuff like extensions and how to update them, and so on.
However, for myself I'm trying to bring my friends using Firefox instead using the Mocosoft-Browser (and forget about SP2).

bnd

bnd reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 28, 2004

As always Mozilla delivers a superior browser with this latest Firefox update. Solid, flawless, better than all the rest. Download this now and know the true meaning of happiness.

BrianSmith

BrianSmith reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 27, 2004

Great browser. The UI is not quite there but.

There are still some inconsistant behaviour.

The extensions window has no close button like any other standard dialog or window.

The download manager window also doesn't have a close button. Clicking the Windows "X" to close the download manager doesn't actually stop the downloads, so this could be misleading for a user thinking that they are going to stop the downloads by closing the download manager window.

Installing extensions allows the extension developer to put there menu options anywhere they like which makes the Tools menu become cluttered with options all over the place to their extensions. All extensions should sit under the extensions option.

The privacy options section should say Remove or Delete and Remove All or Delete All to be more clear what the buttons are about to do.

Software updates section says it will periodically check for updates. Why can't this be set when to check or at least tell the user when it will check for updates.

reets

reets reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 27, 2004

I have been using this browser since it started out. It has been amazing at every stage (no matter what it had to be renamed to :) hehe). The improvements are just great and I am so excited to see a new version out and to see the new toys that come with it.

In this latest release, I noticed that in the Tools menu I now access my Thunderbird directly. Now that is a sweet addon (or I just didn't see it in earlier version).

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to anyone browsing the web!!!

daint

daint reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 27, 2004

Tried most of the latest browser, trying to find a nice alternative to my dated looking IE. Wasn't gonna try this, but must say it is the best browser I've used so far. Highly reccommended

Havohej

Havohej reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 26, 2004

After upgrading to this version, Firefox crashes whenever I click an outside link. I had been using this browser since it was called Phoenix; now I think I need to explore other options.

opticdmx

opticdmx reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 25, 2004

Thanks to all who support FireFox.

I can't believe I waited this long to convert.

I am kicking myself for not switching sooner.

I love this browser. You will too!

1o9

1o9 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 23, 2004

This release is simply superb, the browser is more stable then ever-before, and only now has become some real competition for even the feature-laden Opera and the IE spin-offs such as Maxathon.

Pixelsmack

Pixelsmack reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 23, 2004

Tabbed browsing is just transparently simple with Firefox. The popup blocker and the ADBlock extension are amazing. IE added a similar pop up killer, granted, but that's all they really did.

With the gaining popularity of Firefox I am starting to see c***ks in the armor though. The more popular it gets the more at risk it will become. Oh well...enjoy it while you can!

supernick

supernick reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 23, 2004

Firefox is far better than IE. IE is possibly the worst browser you can have. Firefox is more stable for me, it has nice features and I like it moreso than IE. When the next version of IE comes out (with Windows Longhorn) if it doesn't advance much Firefox will continue being the best (if compatible with Longhorn).

Maxwolf

Maxwolf reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 22, 2004

Not AS good as IE (here come the Microsoft bashers) in MY happy world. The problem with a browser like this is everything is find and dandy until alot of people start using this thing (if ever) and then all the scripts, worms, and trojans that pop-up all the time for IE will begin to puncture hole after hole through Firefox and more than likley turn it into swiss chesse. The worlds best browser is never going to be open source, to many people have access...three stars for effort and nice coding practices.

scoot2006

scoot2006 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 21, 2004

Firefox is great. After using every browser imaginable to get away from IE I've settled in with Firefox.

The built in pop-up blocker is great and you can prevent sites from installing anything which means (da da dada) no spyware... or at least less. They're getting clever.

adamdawg

adamdawg reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 21, 2004

I USED to be a fan of FireFox. I quit using it because everytime a new version came out, all my extensions needed to be redownloaded, etc. I understood it was still beta and that was to be expected, so no big deal. I downloaded this new version (1.0PR) to give it a second chance. Everthing went smoothly until I started installing extensions. Mind you, I only installed the ones Mozilla marked as "Featured Extensions." That, again, went fine. I decided I wanted to uninstall one of the extensions, and when I did, it uninstalled 3 other extensions with it, and removed my tabs from Firefox completely. I can't get them back. Then I ran a comparitive speed test between Firefox and IE (Maxthon to be exact). Firefox took more than 2x as long to load uncached web sites than IE. For those of you who want speed, features, and stability, I say go with Maxthon browser. It uses the IE core and impliments all the features Firefox comes with, plus MANY more (including features you'd normally have to install several extensions for). One more complaint is Firefox's memory usage. It gets higher and higher with every new release. It gets higher when you install extensions and it gets even higher when you load new pages into tabs. With Maxthon, I can have 4 tabs open and all the features and whatnot, and it will use about 22mb RAM. Firefox uses that same amount of ram for the base browser, with one page open and no extras installed.

I feel generous for giving Firefox 2 stars right now. I didn't give it one because I understand it's a PRE release version.

aysung

aysung reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 21, 2004

I can't help thinking it's a little ridiculous for the dedicated Opera users here to be rating Firefox 1/5. Just because Opera may be faster or better stocked with features doesn't mean that Firefox amounts to excrement.

Grandpas

Grandpas reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 21, 2004

I have tested several browsers during the past 2 years: IE, Netcaptor, Opera, Avant ...
Firefox remains my main browser for many reasons; most of them are well described by conrad_ (I just want to add that Firefox works on several platform including Win, MacOS, Linux, Solaris, BeOS)

conrad_

conrad_ reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 20, 2004

For over a year and a half Firefox has been my primary browser. Like many Windows users I had been using Internet Explorer for my browser. But I began looking for an alternative because Internet Explorer doesn't offer much in the way of features and I was also concerned about security.

Before I completely gave up on Internet Explorer I tried Avent, an upgrade to Internet Explorer which adds features like tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking and a redesigned user interface. While I appreciated the features Avent offered I found its interface confusing, cluttered and unintuitive. It didn’t meet my expectations of what I wanted from a web browser and so I moved on to Opera, a complete alternative to Internet Explorer.

Unfortunately my experience with Opera wasn’t much better then my experience with Avent. The features offered in Opera were definitely in improvement over Internet Explorer and better then Avent. Opera was easier to use, seemed to work better then Internet Explorer or Avent, but could be confusing at times and I didn’t always care for the interface. Opera seemed like a good alternative if I could get used to using it, but I was still hoping to find a better browser.

To my good fortune I discovered Firebird, as Firefox was called at that time. Firefox is part of the Mozilla project, a venture launched by Netscape in 1998. The little brother of Mozilla, Firefox is innovative, easy to use, full-featured and free. Created by scores of programmers across the world Firefox is frequently updated and represents a concerted effort to produce the best web browser possible.

For me Firefox gives me better control over how I use the web and empowers me to do more with it. Through features like tab browsing I can have access to multiple web pages without cluttering my task bar with separate windows. The ability to block pop-up windows, advertising, annoying JavaScripts or Java applets gives me control over what I see. Other features I appreciate are the search bar for quick and easy Internet searches; a bookmarks manager for sorting, managing and removing all of the bookmarks I collect; Extensions (ie. plug-ins), which allow Firefox to do things beyond its standard set of features; easy to configure settings for customizing my experience on the web and more.

But beyond all of the features Firefox offers, it stands out amongst alternatives like Avent or Opera because it does everything so well. Firefox does more then offer advanced features, it makes them easy to use unlike the competition. With a well designed and intuitive interface learning to use Firefox is straightforward. Firefox is alternative that makes no comprises.

paull2k

paull2k reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 20, 2004

"Web browsing redefined!" Simply the best of the best, been using Mozilla Firefox since about a year or so ago, when I stumbled upon Phoenix, however, it wasn't until March of this year I made the permanent switch from IE to this awesome browser. I noticed that once I had made the switch from IE to this browser, I had a -very significant drop- in adware and spyware on my system, plus I was getting tired of having to download all the thousands of patches for IE. This powerful and compact browser has all you'll ever need to do any task on the web, so far the only sites I've had trouble with are ones that use IE-exclusive features, such as ActiveX, a few pages left on Microsoft.com, such as Windows Update, and most of McAfee.com all other sites continue work nearly flawlessly with this.
Mozilla Team, you have my full support on this project, keep up the outstanding work on this browser, don't ever let it become the shame IE now is.

Maestr0

Maestr0 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 20, 2004

Not sure what people mean by a 'faster' browser. I use IE and with my broadband, no page takes longer than 2-3 seconds to load...Do I need faster?
Now some of the other features, tabbed features especially, are very nice...

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 20, 2004

Rock solid browser. Clean interface, faster than IE and very stable.

cable123

cable123 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 20, 2004

this is far the best browser ever i have only
had it for a hr but it is the best . Thanks

hiyan

hiyan reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 19, 2004

I have 3 that I would like added.

1) the ability to re-enable the popup blocker bar. After i choose to hide it, i cant seem to find where to unhide it.

2) there is no shortcut key to hide the FIND bar after bringing it up with ctrl-f

3) the ability to add rss feeds manually into the bookmark (by the way, nice feature). Currently I have to edit the bookmark file and add it manually.

other than that, it's fastest browser there is now. keep up the good work :)

epkphoto

epkphoto reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 19, 2004

Simply amazing!!

Firefox has no competition in the Windows world. It is far and away the best browsing solution available. Even better, for users who hop back and forth between Windows, Mac, and Linux computers, Firefox will provide a consitently feature rich experience.

Any free piece of software with such a loyal following of users deserves a look. Dump IE and liberate your Internet.

Sawyer

Sawyer reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 19, 2004

Excellent browser, perfect.
True open source quality. Thanks for great program!

hideki

hideki reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 19, 2004

Simply, best browser available.

Fulfills a lot of my needs, and what if barebone Mozilla Firefox won't meet certain needs? I just download extensions!
Usually there's extension that does exactly what I need.

It can be as simple as you want it to be, or it can be as feature rich as you wamt it to be, choice's yours. (There's even an extension to turn it into adware, if you really desire that!)

Mozilla Firefox gets my solid 5!

29twelve

29twelve reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 19, 2004

A must-have browswer, it's as simple as that. I've been using for over a year now in it's previous versions and I am hooked.

All current IE users should run Firefox alongside IE and compare their experiences.

Make the change now.

sebastian406

sebastian406 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

This version is better than all the rest, with a few exceptions:

-In the Extenstions dialog, I liked the old layout better, with the buttons on each extenstion.

-The pop-up bar at the top is a complete rip of SP2. Lose it.

Skyzyx

Skyzyx reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

IE lacks proper support for XHTML, CSS, PNG, and a slew of other features that better browsers like Firefox, Opera, and Safari support. If more people would use a browser better than IE, then web designers and developers would be able to provide more people a much better experience than you can get with IE.

If you think IE "just works", then you have no idea what you've been missing. Not only does Firefox have better support for technical issues, but it offers fantastic built-in features like tabbed browsing, popup blocking, smarter searching, faster responsiveness, RSS support, and a level of security that IE simply can't match.

I've been using Firefox since v0.5, and the browser does nothing but get better and better with each new release.

Rating: A++ and a Gold Star!

Saad_alshawwa

Saad_alshawwa reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

10 flaws were already fixed in older versions" no need to be scared" FF 1.0PE fast in performance and page loading , added new support for RSS and new Webpage compatble issue wer added , new search/find system makes it easy to search for a thing.

firefox is on the move.

ivanii

ivanii reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

I use this browser since v0.4 and it was more usable than Internet explorer even then, although it had some bugs. Now, it is close to its v1.0 and it has all stability you might need, while features had developed even further.

You will improve your experience by having more productive, safer and more customizable browser.

naylor83

naylor83 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

Firefox is a life and time saver! It loads pages in a flash and provides high security. Many secure sites provide 256-bit encryption, which Firefox can make use of while IE only can use 128-bit encr. Whenever I'm forced to use IE I feel completely crippled.

mikedallos

mikedallos reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

AWESOME!!!

marcos_cu

marcos_cu reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

Best. Browser. EVAR.

Logical-

Logical- reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

I've used Firefox now for 3 months, ever since I read an article about Mozilla products and finally decided to try it out.

I'm absolutely AMAZED at its ease of use, features, and speed. It loads extremely fast, which is something that the first

Mozilla products suffered from. The popup blocking is also something worth talking about. The addition of themes and

extentions to this browser make it even better! Sure, its had a few security vulnerabilities, but I'd rather trust the fate

of my computer in the hands of the Mozilla Foundation developers than in Microsoft's. Rock on, Firefox!

popdog

popdog reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 18, 2004

Just upgraded from 0.9.3 to this new 1.0 release and after a couple of minor hassles it now works perfectly. I love how it now gets things like flash player automatically and updates your extensions for you. Some of my old extensions dont work anymore but im sure they will be updated soon :) Best free product out there!

cdrom600

cdrom600 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 16, 2004

Firefox is the best Web browser out there.
Nothing more can be said.

bunghole

bunghole reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 16, 2004

its ok for open source. i changed the font size and now for some reason fileforum/betanews displays incorrectly. or maybe it does that regardless of font size. people like to rate it highly since it's non-microsoft, but that's no reason to overlook the obvious bugs that it has. other alternatives to IE are opera and k-meleon. they both have their own quirks but in my opinion are superior to firefox. by the way, go here: http://pages.prodigy.net/zzxc/ieskin/ and get the IE theme for firefox. it has two modes, xp and classic. hear me now and thank me later!!!!!!!!!!

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 15, 2004

the new find bar is great, especially the highlighting. it does annoy me however that the new builds ALWAYS break compatibility with old skins

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

The best open source project: period. In 9 months time since my first use I couldn't live without it. When this thing is final final and has been solid for a month I'm rolling it out at work.

durango0000

durango0000 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

guys,

if you want to use your .9x plugins in 1.0PR just do this simple 'hack':

about:config
find app.extensions.version
change 0.10 to 0.9

done.

prandal

prandal reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

People having problems with disabled extensions will find updated ones on http://www.extensionsmirror.nl

Darkk

Darkk reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

This latest release looks like it has some possibilities. I had to uninstall it because most of my favorite extensions weren't updated yet.

I'll be giving it a try when more extensions migrrate.

mcm

mcm reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

Awesome browser, find I need to install extensions to get basic functionality like sorting bookmarks etc although.
(Firefox can sort bookarks but not very easily).

RaveN-FH-
You can get release notes here: Release Notes
Or you can get changes between nightlies here: Burning Edge

Marcinneekk23

Marcinneekk23 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

Very good, but OPERA is the best:) OPERA Rulez...

kernelsn

kernelsn reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

Well..... A PREFECT LOADING TIME (ALMOST 0 Sec.) for my Windows XP SP2. BTW, it's more safe and easy to browsing.

RaveN-FH-

RaveN-FH- reviewed v1.0 Preview Release (0.10) Final on Sep 14, 2004

Where's the actual changelog for this version? I'm getting real tired of downloading a new version every 15 days just so I can test for 1 out of 10 of people.

veky

veky reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 14, 2004

Fuc;)king great software!
Ultra good Find in 1.0!!!

How to completly uninstal IE, except using nLite?

prandal

prandal reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 14, 2004

Firefox rocks. Some of the extensions are amazing (e.g. Web Developer).

Highly recommended.

S***

S*** reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 14, 2004

PR is out fow now!

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ is in beta
http://www.mozilla.org

singwolf

singwolf reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 13, 2004

This is not the final FF 1.0 (0.10) PR. It should be out tomorrow. I would wait for the official PR rather than this nightly.

In saying that, this will give you a preview of the the new featurs - it is getting better all the time. Lets hope it doesn't with the amount of stuff being bolted on.

alcvanamelsvoort

alcvanamelsvoort reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 13, 2004

Firebird is a breath of fresh air compared to Internet Explorer (IE)and light years ahead. Microsoft will need to do some serious footwork to catch up to the usability and functionality of this browser. Seriously. For instance, you can load extra functionality such as more precise ad blocking, mouse gestures, website registration bypassing, dictionary, user agent switching, complete page and listbox/textbox searching, text zooming, UI tweaks, and the list goes on. There are so many possibilities I can't go into them all here.

hbkh

hbkh reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

It's not 0.1 (point one) like a few commented below it's 0.10 (point ten), like what comes after nine. ;)
Firefox is the best browser ever!

mj132

mj132 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

From the Mozilla website:

Download the 0.10 (1.0PR) candidate builds now.

If all goes well with these builds, they'll become the official Firefox 1.0 Preview Release builds on Tuesday morning.

A good thing that keeps getting better. A real hole-in-one for the open source community.

random173

random173 reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

jkamenetz, no, fileforum is correct, it's .1rc

"firefox 1.0 preview release candidates (let's just call it 0.10rc, much easier)"

that was taken from the blog of the firefox developer

deviantATTILA

deviantATTILA reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

Great browser, my default. It's too bad most current extensions and themes aren't compatible with it. If it's one thing I dislike about Mozilla, it's that landmark updates such as this, often times, break legacy extensions / themes. Once they sort that out, I'll be content. I tried this RC, it's fast, has better memory handling, but by it breaking my extensions and themes, I reverted back to 0.9.3

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

The best browser ever. With extensions you can do whatever you want.

jkamenetz

jkamenetz reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

Actually it is _1.0_ RC and not 0.1.

Skibbi

Skibbi reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

This is the best web browser ever made! It's stable, fast and safe!

rahimali

rahimali reviewed v1.0 Preview Release Candidate (0.10rc) on Sep 12, 2004

Firefox totally rocks and combined with AdBlock, it is truly a formidable browser - maybe the best available - ever!

bleedingpegasus

bleedingpegasus reviewed v0.9.3 on Sep 7, 2004

Best evr browser, even lighter than fancy-opera. Minimalist is to let you power-user to get the only extensions you might needed. Until now, i yet find anything i can do in IE/Opera that can't in FF.
for ur-ukar, if ur FF crashed, don't blame straight to it, could be your renegade ext., could be your already-corrupted system files.

J_s_u

J_s_u reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 23, 2004

Great browser. I agree with the comment about it being for minaminilists it should come in some alternative packages containing the most used extensions such as the tabbrowser ones. Would save instalation and getting it the way you want it time.

ur-ukar

ur-ukar reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 19, 2004

Mozilla FireFox 9.3 is still crashing about one time per day on my computer (Windows XP Pro SP1 and now SP2). That's getting quite boring...

mattnotley

mattnotley reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 18, 2004

I use this as my main browser on all the computers in my house. The BEST browser i've ever used. Simple to use, blocks the annoying popup ad's, fast! Also, I havn't had Ad-aware detect any spyware programs since i've started using Mozilla Firefox. Internet Explorer allowed Spyware to install too many times, Mozilla Firefox stops it from happening. 5/5 ALWAYS!

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 13, 2004

Pentium 4 and Athlon 64 SSE2 optimised builds here: http://www.mgillespie.plus.com/Mozilla/mozilla.htm

joo

joo reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 11, 2004

Great browser for minimalists, But I would need to download 20+ extensions to get almost all the features I want. There should be an easier way to enable and/or browse these extensions, rather than a webpage with no search and messy categorizing. For linux this is the best browser, for windows I still like Avant browser.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 7, 2004

Still does not save tabs,, last view pages,,
Other wise I would give straight 5...

I am still using crazy browser as of my Prime browser, light it does main functions I neet:
multi tabs
it saves tabs
no popup

Join it with Admuncher you will have best browsing time.

gkar

gkar reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

They keep putting it out, I'll keep using it!

erwlas1

erwlas1 reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

?? This install went without a hitch with 0.9.3 gievn as the version number being installed...
Stable and fast...

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

It's a nice browser but they need to fix all the stupid little bugs like the wrong version number being displayed in the installer, the auto update saying that there is a new version when there isn't and creating a blank folder in the start menu when you specify not to create any shortcuts. Stuff like this just looks SLOPPY.

happygilmite

happygilmite reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

THis browser has grown on me....the least they could do though is fix the installer so it display the ACTUAL version of the software you are installing...this one says 0.9.2...the last one said 0.9.1....

Just looks shoddy when the installer has the wrong version. Final product IS 0.9.3, but the installer shows 0.9.2 twice that I can remember

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

Pick some people up in a red limousine, and all they'll do is complain about the color.

my 2¢

db.

mikedallos

mikedallos reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

FireFox is simply the BEST alternative browser!

Hats off to the developers!

Be well......

Mike

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

Bug 253121 - lock icon and certificates spoofable with onunload document.write
Bug 249004 - Importing false CA certificate leading to error -8182 (perm DoS), especially exploitable by email
Bug 251381 - new libpng buffer overflow vulnerabilities
Bug 250906 - null (%00) in filename fakes extension (ftp, file)

prandal

prandal reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

Noldster, if you find what you think is a bug in Firefox, discuss it first on the Firefox Bugs forum at www.mozillazine.org, then if you're sure it is a genuine bug and not a markup problem with the site, file a bug on bugzilla.mozilla.org. A lot of layout problems are caused by bad HTML. Get the Web Developer Extension for Firefox and check out the problem pages with that.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

"Best browser ever"--yeah, right. More like the cheapest.

Want tabs to close on double click? Download an extension. Want advanced tab options? Download an extension. Want the window not to close if you hit Ctrl+W one too many times? Download an extension. Want one-window functionality? Download an extension. Want more-powerful built-in search capability? Download an extension. Want paste-and-go? Download an extension. Want a dictionary search feature? Download an extension. Want an "undo close tab" feature? Download an extension. Want anything typed in the address bar to open in a new window? Download an extension. Want "reload tab" functionality? Download an extension. Want mouse gestures? Download an extension.

Want all of those things? Better carve out a few hours of your time to set up your wonderful "free" browser.

Will all those extensions work OK together? No.

Will all those extensions work when you upgrade the browser? No.

Will any of those extensions uninstall 100% cleanly? No.

Are any of those extensions officially supported? No. (You are at the mercy of volunteer third parties.)

Want support? That'll be $40. Want a reliable forum? Don't complain unless you donate.

Want to upgrade? Well, "it is strongly recommended that you uninstall any previous version of Firefox first". Better carve out more than a few hours.

But hey, it's free, right?

Again, it's raved about only *because* it's free. I still put it over Insecure Explorer, but mainly because of the security advantages.

These points are 100% unassailable; any negative responses will be based on hurt feelings and senseless indignation, and not on reason.

Edit: Yes, they're still unassailable points. I'm not complaining about the "beta" quality; I'm complaining about the design in general.

And in fact, you can't configure Firefox however you want, when there are always some extensions that don't work together, or at all. And no matter *what* you do, it still isn't as configurable as Opera.

And is it really better for volunteer members of the public to be extension developers, rather than the core development team? Why? What about when Firefox is updated, and an extension doesn't work with the new version? (Or haven't you noticed the version-selection drop-down list on the Firefox extensions pages?) A lot of time, developers don't have time to address these issues, or they don't have the interest--whatever the reason, I have seen it happen a lot. This isn't an issue with a core dev team.

So yeah, I like it all packaged right in the product. If it's done right, what is wrong with this? With NO OTHER software product are people so willing to hunt down add-ons that have compatibility issues.

And please tell me how Opera is more "bloated" than Firefox. The main Firefox.exe 0.93 binary file is 6.3 MB in size, while the entire root directory of Opera 7.53 is 3.1 MB on my system. That, and Opera just works faster, too.

SG1969

SG1969 reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

Noldster: yes, FF has bugs, which is why it's still a beta. any software out there has bugs as well, i'd personally rather have a few bugs than a bunch of security holes, like in IE.

bluemomentbass

bluemomentbass reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

Fixes are:

Bug 253121 - lock icon and certificates spoofable with onunload document.write
Bug 249004 - Importing false CA certificate leading to error -8182 (perm DoS), especially exploitable by email
Bug 251381 - new libpng buffer overflow vulnerabilities
Bug 250906 - null (%00) in filename fakes extension (ftp, file)

Noldster

Noldster reviewed v0.9.3 on Aug 4, 2004

FireFox is better then IE in all area's except when it comes to bugs. It has just little things like not showing textbox's right/full length on message boards and just not alligning alot of things right on certain websites. But other then that, it's great.

coastertux

coastertux reviewed v0.9.2 on Aug 2, 2004

The best browser ever. Period.

impactedcolon

impactedcolon reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 29, 2004

I am torn about Firefos 0.9.2. I have used Firefox as my primary browser for about 1 month now, and mostly the experience has been fine. However, the things is does wrong are annoying. It crashes my system when I try to post an Amazon review, which is random. It often cannot uninstall extensions, or makes duplicate copies of the extensions I have, which is odd. Even this page displays wrong--the words jut out off of the white background even though they don't in IE.

I like it, and it's more secure, but it annoys me that it does these things, and it's just such small annoyances that will probably make me switch off of it.

However, its bug reporting is the worst I've ever seen. You have to jump through about 5 hoops just to tell them "it crashed on Amazon," and anyone that makes it that hard to submit feedback doesn't seem very interested in hearing it.

spacetoast

spacetoast reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 24, 2004

Why use internet explorer? http://www.cert.org says not to. Firefox is not plauged with nightmarish security problems. It has a ton of free extensions (akin to photoshop plugins) that allow one to customize the browser specifically to one's taste:

http://www.extensionsmir...index.php?showtopic=284

Kiss popups goodbye. Kick ads to the curb with the AdBlock extension. It's only 5 megs. It's zippy fast on load.

Aires

Aires reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 22, 2004

I last used a Mozilla browser when Netscape 7 first came out. I also tried the actual Mozilla browser itself as well. Unfortunately I didn't like either and I uninstalled both.

I'd been hearing how good Firefox is lately and how fast it loads webpages. Since I have a DSL connection now and I like to maximise what I have, I thought I'd install it and give it a go.

Firefox has some nice touches and I like the way it lists Bookmarks (Favorites). But I currently use Crazy Browser which is a frontend for IE. While it may not have been updated for 2yrs, Firefox is definitely slower at loading webpages. (And yes I did apply the Firefox speed tweaks).

Even with the tweak applied whereby I can store Firefox's Cache on a Ramdisk to speed things up further, it's still slower than Crazy Browser. And this I just can't understand. And while I can see the BN logo on one of the browser tabs when browsing with Firefox, I can't get the Beta News webpage to load at all - it's completely blank. Also it uses up noticeably more memory than Crazy Browser.

While Mozilla have certainly come a long way with Firefox, it's still not faster than a 2yrs old frontend for IE. I won't be swapping.

Richardky

Richardky reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 21, 2004

very good browser indeed after a few tweaks and some cool extensions is a fast stable non bloated easy to
use browser..loads faster than IE .firt time i have actualy like the geko mozilla base browser ever.

jivespank

jivespank reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 20, 2004

For a while I recommended Avant to my friends. Since Microsoft is sucking with security holes, and Avant was slow to fix bugs (like pages not loading and stalling the browser) it was time to change. I was told about Firefox and I have to say, I'm impressed. I was used to Avant, and the transition was easy as most of the options were the same (with certain extensions). Add more customizability and this would be a 5.

gkar

gkar reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 20, 2004

This browser works everywhere, including Ebay Picture Services where Opera DOES NOT WORK. I only want one browser on my machine and Firefox is it. Use 98lite or XPlite to rip I/E, Address Book and O/E and as much MS BS as you can off your system and put Firefox and Foxmail or Thunderbird mail in their place. Who wants a 99% pay-up browser like Opera or a disaster waiting to happen like I/E.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 20, 2004

No, it's not as customizable as Opera--even with extensions.

If Firefox had a $30 price tag, it would have an average rating of 2 stars here.

CyberInferno

CyberInferno reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 17, 2004

It's finally to the point that I recommend it to all of my friends and install it on their computers (or tell them about the best extensions). The quality of this browser is second-to-none. Few pages are rendered incorrectly, and some of the poorly rendered pages can be fixed by switching your user agent to IE. I use it for about 98% of my browsing now. It seems that the only pages that IE renders with a distinct advantage are Microsoft-owned sites like zone.com, hotmail.com (which is better, but the rich-text editor still doesn't work), and web-based outlook sites. Goodbye, MyIE. Hello, Firefox.

BladeZero

BladeZero reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 13, 2004

Mozilla Firefox keeps getting more stable and quicker by the release after release until it reaches the 1.0 milestone.

Simply amazing how this browser has shot up to become king of the hill on the browser market.

Doesn't get much better than this folks...

ogman

ogman reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 11, 2004

Soon to become the standard in browsers.

SELonBN

SELonBN reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 9, 2004

Still keeps getting better. I've really begun exploring Extensions and can't seem to stop! Running the same browser on Linux and Windows is great. Now running it from my 512MB USB Flash so ALL settings are always with me (see http://texturizer.net/firefox/tips.html#oth_usb). *oomingmak* go to View, Toolbars, Customize, then with the dialog open, drag toolbars where you want them - same with icons.. even to the menu. A couple steps beyond "competition", but more flexible still.

SFAMonkey

SFAMonkey reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 9, 2004

You just have to go to application data under document + setting->(your computer username)_application data->mozilla and delete everything you wish.
Mozilla Firefox

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 9, 2004

New Pentium 4 builds of Firefox 0.9.2 and Thunderbird 0.7.2 here:

http://www.mgillespie.pl...Mozilla/Thunderbird.htm
http://www.mgillespie.plus.com/Mozilla/Firefox.htm

Slightly larger EXE's but significantly faster than the official Mozilla builds. Will run on any SSE2 enabled CPU (P4, newer Celerons, AMD64)

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 9, 2004

I wish M$ released security fixes this quick!
http://www.codephish.inf...file=viewtopic&t=28

davidtb

davidtb reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 9, 2004

I initially installed this program, screwed it up royally, uninstalled, reinstalled it. It has a habit of finding old preferences and including them in the re-install,good and bad. You have to get rid of everything to avoid that.
I like this program, I dinged it before the java apps, flash, it forgets emoticons everytime,and other minor applet installs are annoying, but that's probably me and my aversion to change. This program is cool,clean and neat.Not infinitely configurable, but a small,lite alternative for any IE hater.

db. nobody gets a 5

oomingmak

oomingmak reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 9, 2004

QBgreen said: ".... deep customization abilities". Hardly, you can't even move the toolbars! Customization is a weak area of this program. Sure, it's very 'extensible' by way of add-ons, but 'customization' is not this browsers strong point. The configuration settings (to customize what's in Firefox as standard) are spartan and unimpressive.

I'm 100% behind Firefox, but for me personlly, it is not quite usable yet (which is no big deal really, seeing as how it is still a zero point release). Not many other programs could claim the same wide-spread day to day usage that Firefox has, for their pre v1.0 beta's.

I'm looking forward to post v1.0 releases (when I understand the toolbar issue, among others, will be addressed).

teeezur

teeezur reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

Steve...The "Sort Bookmarks" extension at http://update.mozilla.or...amp;vid=54&category= is what you are looking for. Check out all the other useful extensions as well as themes at the site as well.

Steve11375

Steve11375 reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

Sorry one additional comment about foxfire, please have a way to get the bookmarks is alphabetical order, that is annoying(well to me anyways!!)

QBgreen

QBgreen reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

Speedy response to security issues, deep customization abilities, and the supplied spark that woke up the IE dev team. Many more things that could be mentioned, but I digress. Impressive for a .0 release? Damned skippy it is. I wouldn't want to use any .0 release from MS, that's for sure. AAMOF, I'm loathe to use any 6.xx release from them.

MrPuddles

MrPuddles reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

5 for putting a security update out immediately. Unlike the 1+ year release time for IE. This version seems to run a little faster on the web. I have not noticed any problems like others have noted on this site. Make sure to uninstall previous version before installing this one.

mrsense

mrsense reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

It seems 0.9.2 is less stable than 0.9.1. 0.9.2 shut down itself at a couple of site at which 0.9.1 didn't have this issue.

whitedeath

whitedeath reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

Re: "One thing, and this is probably not a Mozilla/Netscape thing but, many of my toolbars.. (yahoo, google) and addins are not supported. I believe that a product is not only guaged by its support of users, its also a good indication by developers that support it and make things work for it."

This has been brought to Google, and I believe Google will not be releasing any Google plug-in for Mozilla products. That said, many Google developers do use Firefox + the Google Bar extension (open-source extension at mozdev.org), and they love it! IMHO, Firefox doesn't need vendor support. It integrates a superb password manager, whereas IE would need commercial plug-in like RoboForm to do the same. Its download manager isn't as complete, but I'd imagine the dl manager to be able to compete with FlashGet, etc.. And it has many open-source extension available that simply blow the competitors away (for example, the Google Bar extension).

BTW, five star for security update.

rijp

rijp reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

As a Microsoft Support, MCSE, and enthusiast, I will say, I *loathe* mozilla products. For 2 reasons.. CTRL- never does what it does in IE.. automatically fills in the address. And two, Mozilla/Netscape seem to be rather.. quirky. Believe me.. I am a help desk/support tech, so its not only me that use products but users I support, so I have to use everything so I can test/support the users. That being said, I must say this new FireFox is Sweet! I downloaded it.. It hung during the initial startup when I selected to import my IE environment, but I just closed it. Its smooth, its fast, and it does CTRL (FINALLY!). Anyway.. I am quick to criticise for things that don't work, and to be fair, I persused the message boards for Mozilla, and (because of my background) I keep up with Microsoft bugs/fixes/updates. Now... Mozilla is nice, but it suffers from the same things that happen to IE, according to other users. While this is nice, it is still beta, but I will give it high marks for perfermance. One thing, and this is probably not a Mozilla/Netscape thing but, many of my toolbars.. (yahoo, google) and addins are not supported. I believe that a product is not only guaged by its support of users, its also a good indication by developers that support it and make things work for it. This is why OS/2 died. No support escpecially trying to get developers, namely gamers. So far... I like it. And I will have to agree with many people out there, that IE is a tad.. not as much as everyone believes, but its bloated. Its design is nice, but it could use some competition from Mozilla to make it better. In any case, I have been waffling back and fourth, beteween Neetscape/Mozilla/Opera/IE. I keep my IE, because everything works.. not perfectly.. but at least my toolbars and add-ins (some that I registered) are wasted...if I don't use IE. I have been wondering where the functionality is in Mozilla.. '92 (14 years) finally Mozilla looks like its ready to take on IE.. I know its early, because its beta.. but as a Microsoft preferred user.. this version seems to be on the right track. I try to be as fair as possible, because users don't care what i think, like you, they want what they want, so I have to be ready for questions.. and believe me, I am up to date on verious tools... I now have to be ready for Mozilla. This is an excellent start. I give it a 4, only because... its not quite as intuitive as other browsers..but I already know how to use most of it, so that helps. And 1 more comment, that other user that said he couldn't figure out how to import his IE favorites.. I tell my users, RTFM! Read the Friggin Manual! I found it in help.. its not obvious where the import is, buts its easily found, but using 10% common sense..Anyway, nice product..Now I need to make room for one more icon on my quick start bar!

prandal

prandal reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

This release fixes a security issue: http://mozilla.org/security/shell.html

0.9.1 users can install the ShellBlock extension to fix it instead of downloading 0.9.2

coch

coch reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

DanPFW:
-You can easily import IE favorites.
-Many people including me download on the desktop for the purpose of saving time. Desktop is often the quickest location to reach. A quarantine folder is not needed if ytou have an antivirus always ctive, or consider the desktop as your quartantine folder.
- The show content while dragging setting is honored for me, on both Win98Se and WinXP-SP1. I think this issue is related to bad graphic card driver installation, or incorrectly set resolution or color depth.

muff99: This is normal, not only firefox. Windows does some caching for most (all?) applications you run. Try any program, it should open faster than the first run.

Excellent browser!

muff99

muff99 reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

Everyone should have an alternative browser ready for use ... and this one is way better than opera, though the loading time bothers me a bit ... as an interesting fact firefox loads up quite fast when you close it and reopen it once (some caching thing?).

DanPFW

DanPFW reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

I just downloaded this with the current hoopla surrounding it. My first impressions are, first, these other browsers should quit trying to do stuff their own way. Microsoft has over 80% of the market, why not just access the favorites people already have? I would be much more inclined to use this if that was the case.

Second, Download Folder was set to save all files to the Desktop! First, this should be set to ask me by default, and even if it's not, it shouldn't just save stuff to the Desktop! There should be a quarantine folder!

Third, this browser does not honor the "Show window contents while dragging" setting in the windows display settings, when resizing the browser window.

I found one last item. When I went to uninstall it, I noticed an empty group in my start menu. I only let it put an icon in my quick launch bar when I installed it, so why did it add an empty program group? It could've at least put an uninstall or help icon in there.

I realize this is open source software, but I think some of the very basic functions could be cleaned up a bit.

Dan

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v0.9.2 on Jul 8, 2004

It boggles the mind that a freeware open source app can constantly get so much better and better -- particularly when you consider that IE, with it's billiob dollar bankroll, has barely changed since version 5....

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v0.9.1 on Jul 5, 2004

Just keeps getting better and better. I only use IE with Windows Update and some of the trickier DHTML stuff now. Mozilla and Mozilla Firebird are getting better at handling DHTML though, wont be long till I only use IE for Windows Update. With the number of 0 day exploits floating around for IE ( http://www.codephish.inf...file=viewtopic&t=28 ), it just makes sense to use something else and Firebird is the best something else.

wagner reatto

wagner reatto reviewed v0.9.1 on Jul 2, 2004

very stable and faster than old releases.

whitedeath

whitedeath reviewed v0.9.1 on Jul 1, 2004

IMHO, Microsoft should release a patch that replace IE with any secure browser in Windows.

QBgreen

QBgreen reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Was using Mozilla 1.7 waiting for this release. I have to say I'm very pleased. It's certainly easy to see why this browser is becoming so popular, not even memtioning the fact that the holes that plague IE6 aren't here. The future of Firefox is very bright. Bright enough to get the IE team active again.

Mark Gillespie

Mark Gillespie reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Good Stuff...

If anyone is interested, I compile my own Firefox builds, optimised for my Pentium 4 processor, using SSE2 instruction set. the binaries are slighly larger than the official builds, but much faster...

Get 0.91 Pentium4 build here:

http://www.mgillespie.plus.com/Mozilla/Firefox.htm

DaveNCheez

DaveNCheez reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Excellent... as always.. fixes a few problems

gkar

gkar reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

FireFox browser is Excellent, 6 Star rating.They finally got rid of that hideous default theme too! :-) The authors of this browser are the unsung heroes of the internet. Hey Opera users, try using EBAY Picture Services, YOU CAN'T!

mjm01010101

mjm01010101 reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Fabulous browser. Gets better and smaller every release?! Amazing. My favorite software period right now. Talk about quality-per-bit. For newbs I recommend getting adblock, bugmenot, turn off first three checkmarks of javascript, Press Control+T about 11 times and load your favorite 12 sites (inc betanews) in there, then put the remaining bookmarks in your toolbar, abbreviated. You have near-instant access to 20-30 sites a click or shortcut away!

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

The quality of the programming and bug-hunting of this software is beyond my ability to articulate in this forum. I have been using Firefox/Firebird/Phoenix since 0.4 and I have never been dissappointed by an official build (and I have been frequently pleasantly surprised by the nightly builds).

isaacg

isaacg reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Firefox is working great, just switched from IE recently. Roboform IS available for firefox, i'm using it right now. You do have to get a special utility from the roboform people to make it work, but just look on their website a little, its easy to find. The toolbar isn't as nice as the one in IE, but it's functional.

BladeZero

BladeZero reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

The president of browsers.....

Explorer has blinders on!

UKB

UKB reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

The best open source & FREE web browser available to-date. Highly customisable and very stable. The 0.9.1 addressed some of the bugs found in the previous release 0.9 (even though I wasn't affected at all...) The best web browser, just get better...!!!

TO leemedic:
I can log on my eBbay/Amazon/Hotmail.com account so I guessed it's more your problem rather than Firefox's. By the way, Avant is built on top of MSIE and so strictly speaking isn't a browser at all but a add-on of MSIE. Whereas Mozilla and Firefox uses different rendering engine. Regarding to Roboform, the developer of Roboform should try to release an add-on or extension for Firefox, not the other way arond...

Dark

Dark reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Thunderbird has also been updated. http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

leemedic

leemedic reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Garbage!!! I cannot even log into my E-bay account using FireFox 0.9.1. So if you take the time to download this program onto your computer, you are just wasting your time. So far, Avant is far superior to Mozilla. Also, Firefox is not compatable with Roboform. Just junk!!!

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

The best browser, eveyone should use it. Just try it. Also there is a great support forum: http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php?c=4, where you can also download the newest builds, extensions or themes.

infectiphibian

infectiphibian reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Fantastic. I also got most of old extensions from 0.8 to work with some "Show Old Extensions" extension :-)

Thanx for great advise, Zulithe! Adblock works perfectly now.

FundeMentaL

FundeMentaL reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Great program. I'm so glad that Firefox is a great alternative to Internet Explorer. It faster, nice to the eye when looking at design. And the buildin searchsystem which you can expand by downloading plugins is just wonderfull. No googlebar or other spyware sh*t needs to be installed or anything. v 0.9 had a few flaws, hope they worked those out in this version.

SG1969

SG1969 reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Excelent browser, been using since it for a long time now.
Although not as fast as Opera, it definitely kicks IE's butt, not to mention it's free (no ads either), open source, and secure. I rarely come across a website that doesn't work in mozilla.
I would definitely recommend this browser if you havn't at least tried it yet

Zulithe

Zulithe reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

The greatest browser on earth ... and it's FREE! Everyone should have Firefox installed, you will fall in love with this software in no time at all. Install the Adblock extention with a nice default filter-list (here is a nice place to start: http://aasted.org/adbloc...ewtopic.php?p=1682#1682 ) and you'll already be blocking 80-90% of ads and popups. You'll save both bandwidth and a headache.

ionpulse

ionpulse reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Awesome browser, glad it doesn't include the technology that would allow windows update to work, considering that technology is one of the many parts of IE that make it so insecure.

Llama_tamer

Llama_tamer reviewed v0.9.1 on Jun 29, 2004

Started using Firefox a couple of months ago and only go back to IE for sites that require it...Ahem...MS Live Update, MSNBC... While it would be nice to have all the plugins and extensions include with the install it really doesn't take that much to get them installed. Actually the browser is pretty 'smart' at telling you what you need and getting it done. Great browser!

nickpowers101

nickpowers101 reviewed v0.9 on Jun 27, 2004

This browser is REALLY good - and REALLY FAST! It blows away IE6 when it comes to speed. WOW. It also has one of the best interface/menu system I've seen in ages. I haven't switched over to Firefox 0.9 as my primary browser yet, but after using it for over a week now, it's the primary browser that I fire up when I'm going on the net. This is great software.

httpd.confused

httpd.confused reviewed v0.9 on Jun 27, 2004

I keep trying every new version of Firefox, but I just can't stand running it. I hate having to hunt down a slew of extensions, even for simple things that should be built-in, like what some of the tabbed browsing extensions do. Firefox doesn't even save browsing sessions between runs. And even when you get your extensions just right (though some are always buggy), 80% of them won't work when the next Firefox version comes out. Want to uninstall extensions, thoroughly? Good luck! Then there are plugins. Macromedia is easy, but I couldn't get Real media to play in my browser windows (with Real Alternative 1.23, which does work fine with MyIE2). Then there are Firefox file association bugs (no room to explain here, but I know for a fact they exist). The only reason I give it a 4 is because it is the most secure thing going now, which does count for a lot.

Ehrihk

Ehrihk reviewed v0.9 on Jun 26, 2004

This is my favorite browser. I have been a Mozilla fan since 0.9 with the orginal Mozilla. I remember when the first version of Phoenix (Firefox), it had a a neat UI but just about everything else sucked. I'm amazed how far it has come and it's not even at version 1 yet! Great browser!!

Lomas

Lomas reviewed v0.9 on Jun 26, 2004

It's Free, fast and reliable.
and i use tabbed browsing all the time.
highly recommended....

Dark

Dark reviewed v0.9 on Jun 24, 2004

After searching for a suitable alternative to Internet Explorer and the many browsers that use its shell/engine (Avant, MYIE, SlimBrowser), I came across Firefox and have been extremely pleased with it. I only use SlimBrowser to view the occasional site/page (such as some MSNBC pages) that cater to IE and are not Firefox friendly.

ogi

ogi reviewed v0.9 on Jun 23, 2004

Excellent, fast and reliable browser. Been using it since Firebird 0.7 which crashed occasionally, but this version is stable so far. Anyway, I cannot say enough good things about Firefox...

christoofar

christoofar reviewed v0.9 on Jun 23, 2004

I love this fast, basic browser.I don't need an email client or newsgroup viewer built in,I just want it to use the Web. The only "bug" I am having with it is when using site like Ebay, where you scroll down a page & click a particular
auction link, then hit the Back button, it doesn't retun to the spot I was at on that page, but puts me back at the very top of it. Kind of frustrating.

methos

methos reviewed v0.9 on Jun 23, 2004

as a browser it is indeed getting bettter and better. Not yet where MyIE is but good enough. One disadvantage i think for this browser is that it doesn't support microsoft's implementation (jscript) of the ecma scripting language but 'only' javascript (this is probably why it doesn't render several sites, zridling...). However the same is true for netscape and opera, so i guess you can't hold it against this browser... still it would be a great improvement if it would.

Carbonic

Carbonic reviewed v0.9 on Jun 22, 2004

Best browser ever!

Best keeps getting better.

I dont know what thoes people are doin rating it a 1-2 this browser simply rocks.

voloda

voloda reviewed v0.9 on Jun 22, 2004

You guys are unbelievable, I use this browser since its first release and I almost never complained about it. It's the fastest browser Ive ever had.
It's just getting better and better. You dont know what you are talking about.

zridling

zridling reviewed v0.9 on Jun 22, 2004

Yikes, this thing is incredibly SLOW and doesn't render several sites I visited that required ActiveX. To see the page, I had to go back to good old MyIE2.

ssb

ssb reviewed v0.9 on Jun 22, 2004

Slow and stable, becomes worst than ever. Never understood why people use it

ur-ukar

ur-ukar reviewed v0.9 on Jun 21, 2004

It's getting worst and worst...
Firebird 0.5 was quite stable. Now since 0.8-0.9, Firefox crashes really too often!!(when a few tabs are open (10+), when a .pdf is opened and closed (this crashes everytimes for me), or some times for absolutely no reason, just by switching from one tab to another one!!). Stop adding useless features ("themes") and make it stable and efficient, please.

ahjefri

ahjefri reviewed v0.9 on Jun 20, 2004

it seems very slim and render pages right. I am still waiting for very important feature, which is save last pages or tabs I was view,, I have couple of sits that I visited daily , it would very annoying to open them one by one every time I want to browse the new. Crazy Browser is still my Fav at work and Opera at home...

MOTVG

MOTVG reviewed v0.9 on Jun 18, 2004

Out of the the browsers I tried (Mozilla, IE, MyIE, Netscape, Opera, probably a few other browsers that I can't remember off hand) this one is my personal favorite. Anyone who is still using the archaic Internet Explorer would probably do themselves a world of good by using another browser. The only reason that anyone should have to use IE for is to use windows update. Why should someone have to pay money for ad blockers and until recently pop-up blockers for IE when you can get this all for free with mozilla firefox?
If you don't like firefox but are still using IE then just try out some other browser since Internet Explorer is the Ford Pinto out of all the browsers today.

FOXiE-99

FOXiE-99 reviewed v0.9 on Jun 17, 2004

Like the song: "Simply The Best!"

PGHBETA

PGHBETA reviewed v0.9 on Jun 16, 2004

The Fox Fire browser worked fine for about 24 hours. It is now capable of opening the Windows update site. It started opening a box to make it the default brower. After that, it would not deploy. Every time I would click it, the auto-send trouble report box would open. I finally had to uninstall the software and remove all of it's components. It's a decent browser with a lot of potential if they get all of the bugs worked out.

boomdboom

boomdboom reviewed v0.9 on Jun 16, 2004

It's the best browser period with Opera being a close second.

singwolf

singwolf reviewed v0.9 on Jun 16, 2004

Love Firefox.

Is anyone else using XP or Win 2000 having Firefox 0.9 identify as 0.8?? When you do an "about" it says 0.9 but below this it has the browser ID tag showing 0.8.

Gorgurth

Gorgurth reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

Es el mejor browser que existe sin lugar a dudas!
Is the best browser!

Firefox rulezzz!!!!!

Noldster

Noldster reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

firefox is by far the best and fastest browser out there. unfortunatly im on a crappy laptop right now on vacation so firefox takes like 5-10 seconds to load. yea i know, so i ususally will just use ie now. but when i get back to my home, ill go dl this, 5/5 for me =0=0=0=0==0 long time user.

gkar

gkar reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

Great browser getting better! Don't forget to try some of the newer themes, the default one is cheesy, but the others are really nice. Don't forget to download Foxmail 5.0, these 2 together make a great combo! Also download Mozilla Optimizer 1.6.X, this nice little free utility will configure some speed tweaks for you, pipelining etc... ***** Stars

guti

guti reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

Great browser.

Still prefer the Seamonkey Suite because of the Javascript Debugger, but Firefox is really nice.

The Gecko engine should improve its Javascript performance, but is evolving really well.

folio

folio reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

A great release, my default browser since .7 :)

bryhhh

bryhhh reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

Fantastic! The best web browser available for Windows or Linux. Pop up blocking, tabs, flash block, ad block. Not prone ton spyware, countless exploits. You have to be mad to be still using IE.

darkpepe

darkpepe reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

6 Stars!
Everyone missing the 0.8 Theme: it´s called "Qute"

Zulithe

Zulithe reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

If ever there was a program worthy of a 5 rating here at Betanews, it would be Firefox! Version 0.9 makes it easier than ever to install extentions and themes as well as keep them up-to-date thanks to Smartupdate. Hands down it renders pages more correctly than any other engine. Get this browser!!

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

Simply the best

rseiler

rseiler reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

To avoid problems when upgrading, make sure to follow directions:
http://forums.mozillazin...770b7063efa3fb69c8e0e39

wormeyman

wormeyman reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

The best browser there is been using this since 0.6 and it gets better with each release 0.9 is much more stable than 0.8.

robodesign

robodesign reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

hello!
awesome browser!!! congratulations to Mozilla gurus :).

i'm using opera 7.51 ... but that's a matter of taste. firefox is awesome too!

just switch from IE to any other browser :)).

zorty

zorty reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

5 stars for the very best browser there has ever been! You got to love it! By far not such a tenacious goat as Internet Explorer is!

prandal

prandal reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

The best. Still a few rough edges (e.g. browser needs restarting to properly activate new themes), but when you see what you can do with some of the extensions, you'll NEVER want to go back to your old browser. Web page developers should check out the Web Developer Extension at http://www.chrispederick...rk/firefox/webdeveloper/

That exension alone is worth the price ... oh, it's free ;-)

Shadow Wing

Shadow Wing reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

Just because the program wasn't out at the time it was posted on FileForu, doesn't mean that you should be ranking the program so low.

Firefox is a solid, robust and fast internet browser. Tired of Internet Explorer? Don't feel you should have to pay for Opera? Then Firefox is the answer.

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

The best browser. Open source, great support and with extensions you can do everything. My default browser. Highly recommended.

eL MaesTro

eL MaesTro reviewed v0.9 on Jun 15, 2004

indeed very good, this worth a try, leave Safari and never look back

Moparx

Moparx reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 13, 2004

ive been using it since early devel (always use nightly builds).
its come a long way since its original conception and i cant wait to see it hit its 1.0 milestone.

needless to say i recommend firefox to everyone :)

mo_mo

mo_mo reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 13, 2004

i love firefox
the best internet browser ever!

todbran

todbran reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 12, 2004

You all downloaded the latest nightly for 0.8. 0.9 isn't being released until Monday. Didn't any of you notice that it said that this will install 0.8? Open your eyes folks, 0.9 won't be downloadable until Monday. I know, I had a brain fart and downloaded it myself. Only after I contacted Mozilla did I figure out my error.

deviantATTILA

deviantATTILA reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 12, 2004

FireFox has become the only browser I need to use. This is by far the most user-friendly, productivity enhancing browser ever created. The reason for this is OpenSource code. :)

fUnkYth99

fUnkYth99 reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 11, 2004

It´s getting better and better. File size now smaller, already 2mb smaller than the 0.8 version. Still some bugs in this RC like Print Preview, problems on chatting sites and low charging an some javascript-based sites. I love the extensions, especially ad-block and webbrowser-extensions, these ones should be integrated as default. The new theme is very nice too. I give it 5 stars because Firefox is still a Beta.

UKB

UKB reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 11, 2004

The best open source & FREE web browser available to-date. Highly customisable and very stable (as long as you choose the "release" or "branch" version, the "trunk" version could sometimes be problematic but that's because it's changing all the time)

FireFox might not be the fastest rendering browser around, it certainly isn't the slowest. No Windows-based web browsers (even Opera) will be rendering web pages faster than MSIE (and we all know why that is...!!) In terms of other aspect of executions, start-up, open new tabs/windows and built-in pop-ups blocking and dozens of different powerful FREE extensions (plug-ins) you can add on according to suit your liking. It also has various different OS builds and small in its size. The newer release of FireFox's size is about 4.6MB, that's much smaller than MSIE5 or 6, and Opera (,with Java which is 16.2Mb). It fully supports all the W3C standards (which is how it should be...). You can even run it from CD or removable USB drives if you wish.

The developers for FireFox, and all other open source projects have constantly push themselves to release bug fixes, enhanced feature builds on nearly daily basis compare to "whenever-it-suits-me" attitude from Microsoft. Now can someone tell me how this is not "THE BEST" browser now...!?

All I could have said now is everyone should give FireFox a go and see for themselves as how FireFox can change the way you surf the net...

Arnvid

Arnvid reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Been checking out the 0.9RC, and find it as a good jump ahead from the 8 version (although a bit prepared as I have followed it through some nightly updates). Still I got a slimy bug on my system, as the new extensions set-up would not work - and with the lack of extensions under options, it made me wait for the final version. That is the first major problem I had since it first came as firebird, and for that alone its worth its five star rating in a RC version. For one who works with websites, the webdeveloper extension is great, and I agree totally with caramanis on his comment on firefox' customisation ability.

caramanis

caramanis reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

To those of you complaining of speed, you need to properly tweak firefox to get it to optimum speed. The customization ability of this browser is its greatest feature, but having to do the work to customize it is probably it's weakest (if that makes sense). I wouldn't give back the ability though for anything. Check out the Firefox Forums for information from users on customizability.

Natrunner

Natrunner reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

I like this browser. It has been improved in many ways compared to the .8 version. My only complaint is the slower webpage loading. The best thing about Firefox is ZERO pop-ups even on those ummmm....grey area websites..wink wink, nudge nudge.

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Best browser available. it's small (4.7 mb installation file, smaller than 0.8), it's light and it's extensible.
http://www.codefish.net....ile=article&sid=533

Diamhair

Diamhair reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Great to have a RC in our hands. I was also happy to find that they FINALLY added a "Copy Image" option by default, saves me the hassle of installing another extension. I don't care much for the new theme, but that's ok, I have Apollo. ;)

ssb

ssb reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Really don't understand what is good in Firefox. I agree, it's a nice looking alternative to IE and Opera but found it much slower (even with all secret settings applied), buggy and much uglier than Mozilla suite.
Sometimes i hate IE too, but this is no reason for me to switch to this one. In that case i'd prefer Opera 7.5 which is also non standard and sometimes buggy but faster than FF.

wormeyman

wormeyman reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Very awesome i test around 3 nightlys a week and i can say that starting in june it has gotten VERY stable much more stable than firefox 0.8.

The best new feature will be the ability to un-install extensions and the ability to update them :D

Zankur

Zankur reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Wow!Firebird has helped himself to an official beta after quite sometime.But be rest assured that it deserved the wait.Improved stability,coupled with some new features.I think it will overhaul mozilla once it reaches version1.0.But on sourer taste,it's download manager could improve.

Artem S. Tashkinov

Artem S. Tashkinov reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 10, 2004

Changelog can be found here http://www.mozilla.org/p...refox/releases/0.9.html. IMHO, it's the best browser on the planet.

Hassada

Hassada reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

This is the best browser. It's lite, fast and flexible.

bored154

bored154 reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Firefox is awsome, definitally downloading this.

GhoS

GhoS reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

This just gets better and better, not that I ever doubted it would. Pages that in .8 didn't obey window borders, now fit within the window! It seems measurably faster in rendering pages also.
While I don't believe the default theme will be winning any awards, it does the job.
For those who like their extensions or themes already in use, might want to wait til final release for .9 since none have been updated to work with this release yet. It is possible some will work just fine, but old ones can cause problems. I'm sure they'll be updated soon or at least soon after .9's final release.
Still you own it to yourself to give this browser a try if you've been hesistant before. This leaves IE in the dust.

micd

micd reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

A rock solid alternative to IE. I just started to use it and have no complaints at all. Since IE once again has major security issues, I recommend this highly to anyone wishing a different browsing experience.

Lokheed

Lokheed reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Version 1.0 does indeed look bright. The 0.9 branch is a great improvement on the 0.8 and things arent stopping there.

Ben (lead developer) is planning on really ironning out the bugs and gliches for 1.0 which should be set for September, though timelines are never met. This release was mostly supposed to incorporate the new Extension and Theme managers being emphasized.

If anyone misses the old Qute theme, it can be downloaded here: http://quadrone.org/graphics/

It was removed due to copyright and cross platform similarity issues. (Firefox is designed on Linux then ported over to Windows and OS-X. Ben wanted similarities between all versions of Firefox).

Shadow Wing

Shadow Wing reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

If Microsoft wern't so arrogant, they would fear this browser more than they do. This is a top-notch internet browser. If you don't like Internet Explorer, give this a spin - you won't be disappointed.

razorhasyou

razorhasyou reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Used it since 0.3 and it's still the best... Just getting better and better.

Also try Thunderbird if you want a good email client.

iamtux

iamtux reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

5 thumbs up for this version. I love the new default skin, looks great. I've used this browser since it was called Firebird and it has never let me down. With each new version its only gotten better and better. I can't wait to see what's in store for the final product. Hands down, best browser out there!

darthbeads

darthbeads reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Dear Mozilla:

Love the new relase, hate the new skin.

Love,
DarthBeads

Havohej

Havohej reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

I have yet to use a browser that suits my needs as well as Firefox has. This has been true since the browser was known as Phoenix. I don't like the default skin in the version as much as the last one, which was a huge improvement over the default skin before it. Everything else is great though. No crashes; though I have yet to give this one a proper test run.

thoffmeyer

thoffmeyer reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

I am currently running this and wow, by far like the past reviewers said, 4.8 installation, I like the import wizard too. Nice simple and sleek design. 5 Thumbs UP!

Quixley

Quixley reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Simply the best browser available atm!

Ameranu

Ameranu reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Its going better and better.

From insane 30MB after install and 15MB installation file, they made 4.8MB installer and only 14MB final installation size.

Is it mean that Firefox (previously Firebird [previosly Phoenix]) is going to be the second best CODED browser ever made?

Almost.

Its piece of a GREAT work, but still its *nothing* compared to the fastest and best coded browser on earth. Opera PEROID (Just for info, installation file of this masterpiece has 3.4MB and it takes 6.5MB of diskspace with ALL possible futures [Mail, IRC etc] after installation).

But anyway..

Keep it going guys. Nice work.

SuperVegeta

SuperVegeta reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Simply the best browser of the world. Easy to use, extremely stable and fast, is the perfect companion for your internet surfs.

Nehemoth

Nehemoth reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

Just the best browser that you can install..
Is so simple as that,the extentions are more than better,and the new union with opera for a new standard is more than super great news....

Grab a copy a Firefox and enjoy all that Internet has for you..

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v0.9 RC on Jun 9, 2004

All I can says is WOW. The best browser is just getting better and better. I like the new theme and extensions manager. Easy updating will be great. And the new default theme is quite nice. Go get Firefox fast and get rid of old and insecure IE.

contranj

contranj reviewed v0.8 on Jun 6, 2004

so much faster then internet explorer
actually displays css correctly
built in pop-up blocker
ad-block (i don't see banner ads ever)
skinable
i'm getting used to the download manager
ultra configurable
multi-platform
open-source

its the best. period.

FailedCRC

FailedCRC reviewed v0.8 on May 17, 2004

absurdly configurable and extremely fast (pipelining with squid rocks). you have no reason not to use this browser as your default (unless you have to use a page where the webmaster thought it was a good idea to use vbscript). :)

hariskar

hariskar reviewed v0.8 on May 12, 2004

Just the best browser. You can do everything you want with extensions (if it is not built in). Free, open source, daily evolving. And it is only 0.8...

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v0.8 on May 12, 2004

crap ;P

dillweed

dillweed reviewed v0.8 on Apr 12, 2004

An interesting alternative to IE. .08 is a lot better than previous versions. Too bad the developers seem to be furries. To those of you who hate then name and icon, here's an easy way to change the name: http://www.cosmicat.com/software/firesomething/ (it's technically a randomizer, but you can delete the random name choices for a stable name.) And here's a way to change the icon: http://texturizer.net/firefox/tips.html#app_icon

ultragum

ultragum reviewed v0.8 on Feb 29, 2004

so simple and easy!
best web browser.

eXtraPerformance

eXtraPerformance reviewed v0.8 on Feb 28, 2004

I think FireFox is wonderful for being free. As for the name change, "What's a name?". I do like the new icon a whole lot better. The old icon was too flat, and it was just fire. With built in search, tabbed browsing, and the joy of pop-up blocking, and an ad-on to block banner ads; I thinks it's wonderful. Oh, and check out xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html for 101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that IE cannot.

AbsolutCamper

AbsolutCamper reviewed v0.8 on Feb 24, 2004

As it says in their slogans, "it turns the browser world upside down". The latest release is simply brilliant, everything loads fast and useless junk is kept to a minimum. This will definitely enhance the standard mozilla when they integrate it.

weed

weed reviewed v0.8 on Feb 18, 2004

Been using Opera 6.06 (paid) for a long time, I love it, but Firefox seems to render pages a little better, seems fairly quick, isn't loaded down with unneccessary features and is freeware. I like the clean and simple interface and privacy features too. Now if I can only figure out where cookies, cache and histiry are stored I can set WindowWasher to clean it all out. 6 Stars ******

xeonox

xeonox reviewed v0.8 on Feb 11, 2004

Very good browser, i hope they start packaging this into the linux distros

whitedeath

whitedeath reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

The new name sux, but oh well, what's in a name?
Light browser, much easier to use than Opera.

xippon

xippon reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

Thunderbird, Firefox, what next ? maby a pokemonzilla ?
Comparing Firefox and Opera, Opera starts much faster...

djdanska

djdanska reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

Yet another replacemnet for IE. wonderfull!

L337JasE

L337JasE reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

brilliant

poopie

poopie reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

If you use bleeding edge linux, this browser definitely rocks -- It's more like explorer than regular mozilla, so windows-oriented users will prefer it. On Windows, users are likely to say, "I already have explorer..."

One major gripe, though is the F$%k#>& name change business. A great software project has become almost a joke due to all of the name changes.

They should just called it Mozilla 2.0!

pangel

pangel reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

Although free, still quite inferior to Opera (personal opinion). Tabs still do not as well as opera, and mouse gestoures are not yet perfect. A lot of potential though.

QBgreen

QBgreen reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

Upon further consideration and a day of use, I'll give this release a "5". As I stated previously, when Firefox replace Mozilla, it will also replace IE for anyone with sense.

nirwana

nirwana reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

> Request: a more user friendly interface than about:config
> intended to the most usual settings.

Preferential is a better UI for changing these settings. See http://preferential.mozdev.org and this site also explains each setting that can be made.

faux

faux reviewed v0.8 on Feb 10, 2004

Firstly, to the individual saying Fire Fox does not support some "standards" that only IE does: It is a well known fact that IE is incredibly poor at supporting standards at all. Don't believe me? Try hitting up http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html and taking a gander. More like you want to be supporting IE's bugs. Funny.

Firefox is a wonderful browser. It gets the job done and it does it quite well. It has a very intuitive interface, an incredibly strong, reliable standards-compliant rendering engine, and the security that I want.

I'm pleased with its current performance on even my older 166mmx, 128mb RAM, Win98SE machine. I can't wait for this to get out of beta! And hooray for the final name, even if I have to learn to like it!

smith288

smith288 reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Umm...Firebird was copywrited. So the name aint changing. I dont care about the name. Its just a damn name. Does it perform?

BillBraskey

BillBraskey reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

The browser is great, but the name change could no be more g**. I mean "Fire Fox" WTF kind of crap is that. It should have stayed Phoenix or Firebird. Who wants to say "My browser of choice is FIRE FOX"...it just sounds stupid. I cant wait for the next innevitable name change.

bsf

bsf reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

as a beta, i rate it as 4 because it is easy to configure, and no need for tweaking. but the bad part is that it's slower than internet explorer (when loading up big pages, there is a VERY OBVIOUS difference) and other than tables (which Internet Explorer has a BIG bug), it is not compatible with some standards... I know that Netscape is based off Mozilla, but Mozilla should port to Netscape more often to let it support more things, or else i can only view really simple pages (XML support is quite good though, since most XML pages I made is more accurate in FireFox, Firebird than Internet Explorer 6.0, 5.0 (5.5 is good for some reason i don't know).

captainahab

captainahab reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

I like the name Firefox and the cool new icon and am glad they finally have an installer. I also like some of the very useful extensions available such as mouse gestures, adblock, and the ad removing script which works very well.
For speed, Opera wins. Opera is even more customizable.
People, for your information Mozilla Firefox is a web browser, not a religion... don't go crazy.

Banquo

Banquo reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

This definately the best release yet. I no longer have any use at all for IE. Thunderbird is a great companion to this as well. Oh and Bh420, saying you are not going to use this new release just because of the name is the stupidest comment I've heard quite a while.

Joco

Joco reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Excellent program. Secure, fast, intelligent bookmark and link bar, very configurable. This is my reference browser, when developing ASP.NET applications, I mainly test on Firebird/Firefox. Request: a more user friendly interface than about:config intended to the most usual settings.

Somnambulator

Somnambulator reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

flame war aside, i have no clue what bobad is speaking of. i have yet to have any problems AT ALL with phoenix/firebird/firefox besides the required registry edit to get java working in the .6 milestone. (2 weeks after the milestone, the 1st nightly build emerged that resolved the java issue). hell, with .8, even Flash Installer recognizes FF as a browser and correctly istalled flash plugin automatically for me (instead oif me ahving to point to FB's plugins directory b/c flash couldnt locate a browser).

best release yet, but obviously little improvement over recent nightlies besides the new name and icon. i havent seen any bugs and the skins work great...they filtered out the imcompatible skins so now most if not all work. (and before they filtered them out, there was text below EACH AND EVERY skin description that said if it was compatible with YOUR browser version. (only ignorant f***s would have had trouble with the skins) this version, IMO, has thrust phoenix/FB/FF into a more mainstream level of the internet. .7 was fairly common amongst "geeks" and tech savvies, but this one is finding the not so geeky and savvy users. good for it. it will finally garnish up enough of a push to truely give IE a run for it's money (FREE!).

the FF developers realized how popular FB was getting, and realized that the more people that downloaded the browser, the more people that wouldnt know how to install it with a simple zip file (think XP built-in zip handling, many have no clue it's even one compressed file instead of one folder with many files in it like most of your hard drive) so they incorporated a simple installer to do the trick. nice work guys.

Prospero424

Prospero424 reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Very nice, they finally got Java working properly with it, a built-in download manager, and some bug-fixes. Now I can't find a single site out there that doesn't render properly in it. By far the best browser out there, I recommend it every time I see a system infested with spyware and/or a person fed up with IE popups. IMHO, it also has the best tabbed-browsing implementation out there (I love the whole middle mouse button/wheel new tab thing). Just excellent.

My only complaint is the DAMNED SKINS system. Every time they reach a new milestone, all of the skins people have spent hours and hours creating no longer work. They need to decide on a skins system and stick with it, otherwise people are just going to get fed up with them and the quality of skins out there will suffer greatly.

But this is, of course, just a cosmetic problem.

iguanas

iguanas reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

nice piece of software. a great alternative.
its a shame that the site that hosts the extensions is down by the traffic.

zeeeg

zeeeg reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Firefox rocks. Haven't quite gotten used to the new name, but the browser is so good who cares about the name.

FXSoftware

FXSoftware reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

About TBE, use the latest version to resolve your problem. FireFox is an excellent browser. It's too bad that you can't upgrade your 'old' 0.7 to 0.8. A fresh install is necessary.

Bh420

Bh420 reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Dont like the new name at all im going to stick to the FIREBIRD 02/07/04 SSE truck build i got off the forums me thinks........ screw the new name its dumb

randal2k

randal2k reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Excellent!! with a few flaws... TBE (tabbed browser extension) will cuase FireFox to fail to luanch. It also has issues with tabbed browsing after TBE has been disabled, as it uses some of the FireBird prefrences. Over all though.. Awsome!!

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

I don't like the new name that much and the old just unzip and run method of installation was better but all this doesn't change the fact that this is by far the best browser available. Popup blocking works great and it is fast and nice looking. I higly rcommend this to everyone, especialy to those with old browser technology like Nestcape 4.x or Internet Explorer.

guti

guti reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

shawkins, I have succesfully tried the MozillaFirefox-0.8-final-Oxs-G7-SSE.exe build in a Pentium III, and in an Athlon XP CPUs. Only remember that old Ahtlons (not the XP versions), and old Durons does not support the SSE instruction sets.
For me looks prety nice and fast.
Only hope to find and Intel C++ 8.0 compiled binary to get extra speed!!! ;-)

Hassada

Hassada reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

This is one of the best browser yet!!! It's so fast and stable. No security hole to be worry with.
Firefox, I'm lovin' it. :)

Zootopia3000

Zootopia3000 reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

bobad, nemrtvy's attack was uncalled for. But your reply was blind as well and cliched to boot... Note "pretty useless for anyone with a life". Find a dictionary and increase your vocabulary. Don't go thru "life" being a sheep. The faults that you find with Mozilla lead me to believe that a) your PC is amiss, and/or b) your PC/software knowledge is lacking. I find not the problems with Mozilla that you so state. If you want flawless software, why are you hanging around here at BETAnews?

reidyn

reidyn reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

I might was well just copy and paste my review of the last version... This browser keeps getting better with each new release. It will be a fantastic 1.0 when that time comes.

shawkins

shawkins reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

guti, tx for the link to the SSE builds.
I tried it just now at work (on Win2K SP-4 Intel), and everything works just fine (makes me wonder if the problem at home is because I'm running an AMD chip?)
Anyway, it seems okay. Rendering of images seems a bit sluggish somehow, though...

XF

XF reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Moving on in the right direction... Personally, I prefer trunk builds (built daily with many improvements and potentially new bugs... but I admit I'm a geek ;) ), but this 0.8 release brings many improvements to end users like official installer with included registry entries (no more newbies problems with plugins), download manager (I'm using it 'til last November and got nicely used to it), better extension handling (even if this 0.8 release has a nasty bug that trunk builds do not have with installing multiple extensions without restarting the browser), and gained some stability compared to previous releases. Plus has new icons and the new name should stop those fights among open-source developers. My vote is 5 but I think the development could bring some other changes in the future so users who don't like to deal with programs changes should wait for 1.0. I know this is a Beta-oriented site and users who read these reviews should know what beta releases are, but seems like some users overlook at its meaning and think beta software are end-users-finished-products...

bobad

bobad reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Geeze nemrtvy, what a violent reaction! It's only software. I didn't insult your girlfriend, did I? You are apparently so much in love with FireFox that you are blind to how useless it is. Perhaps it will improve, but it's pretty useless for anyone with a life. Browsers are for browsing, not tweaking and playing with.

method77

method77 reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

still slower than opera and has less features

nemrtvy

nemrtvy reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

bobad> stick with your fuc**** IE and dont bother to comment something you dont know how to use. Firebird is definitely best browser around.

Painkiller

Painkiller reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

The Best Browser Of The World..

Better Than even...This is a real browser...

Enjoy this new version also with a new better popups blocker

Fnatte79

Fnatte79 reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Simply The Best... there is no other! =)

Havohej

Havohej reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Firefox is a intuitive, speedy, and using it feels right. I had been using MyIE2 for the past few weeks after incompatibility issues on alternative browsers proved to be too big of an annoyance. I'm sure these will still arise due to a lot of things online not being a part of the W3 standards. I'd love to see transparency and some other CSS code supported in Mozilla-based browsers. Right now I'm just weighing compatibility and features and less crappiness (MyIE2 w/ CookieWall just feels plain messy).

Ksilebo

Ksilebo reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

You can't get a better browser.

crypto

crypto reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

Very fast and "light" browser! Works fine with XP SP1.

nth10sd

nth10sd reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

The BEST browser out there, beats Opera for its customisability, beats AOL/Netscape for its absence of ads and other load of rubbish, and finally beats IE6 hands down...

BTW, check out the MozillaZine forums for "optimised" versions (e.g. SSE, SSE2...)

Simply the BEST.

ohmymy

ohmymy reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

it's definitely slower than OPERA!!!
OPERA is still number one browser on the planet.

sarcosos

sarcosos reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

The bird's gone foxy n' I sure do like it! Simply the best.

joske

joske reviewed v0.8 on Feb 9, 2004

dude, it's godlike. ie dissaperas in front of this. a must have!

razorhasyou

razorhasyou reviewed v0.7 on Dec 26, 2003

Simply the best browser out there. :)
Keep up the good work!

[MeNaCe]

[MeNaCe] reviewed v0.7 on Oct 19, 2003

FireBird v0.7 workin great ! only 1 problem i can't use JAVA java scripts, real/QT plugins works but not java (as player, as script OK), any1 know if it is like the o'l days, then i could copy the nessesarry files over to firebird/plugins folder !
if anyone know please post, what files i should copy !

ark2000

ark2000 reviewed v0.7 on Oct 19, 2003

I'm currently working on a live skin preview and setup for my upcoming CRM eCommerce back end, and the huge javascript takes forever on internet explorer, it's almost instant in firebird. I've been trying to switch to mozilla for years, now Just a few minor touches and I will not have excuse anymore to switch. One thing that bothers me is that you can't put the buttons at the end of the menu at the top, that's just a little screen space but I'm just used to doing that in explorer.

Tux_Racer

Tux_Racer reviewed v0.7 on Oct 18, 2003

If you want real beta versions you can go here http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/ and keep an eye on daily development as well as download nightly builds if they appear to not have any bugs that would bother you. Btw, someone needs to learn how to read the release notes, more than two things have changed since 0.6 rofl.

artic6

artic6 reviewed v0.7 on Oct 16, 2003

This is like Mozilla, without the "extras" it is quick and very portable, get this now and skin, mod and surf the net with security and realibility

Havohej

Havohej reviewed v0.7 on Oct 16, 2003

I agree with what iandol's review of Firebird. It's definetly a work in progress. I think it will make a worthy successor to the lumbering Mozilla someday.

iandol

iandol reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

There are many good things about Firebird. It is much smaller than Mozilla and the user interface is faster (although less powerful out of the box). The idea seems to be to copy IE by having a basic feature set, but you can extend it through extensions. Without extensions it is rather anaemic when compared to Mozilla / Opera / IE shells. Tabs don't allow very much control, preferences has few options for important settings, you can't toggle important settings like referrer / plugins / javascript quickly. The rendering is great like Mozilla, thanks to the Gecko core. With extensions the features become more powerful, although user contributed extensions like mouse gestures (all-in-one) often cannot compare to professionally developed features like those found in Opera (Opera allows full control of the UI, not just the web page, you can link gestures to 520 different commands vs. Firebirds ~25). Firebird is brilliant considering it is alpha software, but is still more bloated than other browsers like Opera (twice the size with a smaller feature set), and still has some extensive development needed (uninstalling extensions, better user customisability [please vote for bug 57805!] etc.) Good, and leagues above IE - but still in develpment and some way to go before reaching browser perfection...

Somnambulator

Somnambulator reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

best browser ever, period. i've used them all, extensively might i add. that is, until i tried Phoenix .6. now under direct development by the folks of mozilla and renamed to Firebird due to legal reasons, it simply ROCKS. every new release (and nightly for that matter) has nw features fixes. extensions are a REALY nice and EASY way to add TONS of functionality to Firebird. nothing else comes close to it's ease of use for EVERYONE, noobs and pros alike, and is so light it's worthy of "default browser" status for all those URL's sent to you.

good job Mozilla.

Voy70

Voy70 reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

Have refused Opera 7.xx since it came out, as the interface seemed too cluttered. Firebird just filled the gap perfectly, as even the default theme is straight-forward. Not many options to set in firebird if you just give it a quick run, but if you go deeper... about:config you'll have nearly anything you'd like to configure. Just add yourself two or three extensions, get excited tracing the daily development and enjoy an absolutely stable browser...

ranasrule

ranasrule reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

whithout a doubt the best browser out there...fast...stable and renders all kinds of web pages flawlessly....also the whole idea of extensions is just great and allows u to pick and choose the features u want. Light years ahead of IE and Opera(the worst browser on the planet).

TrueSatan

TrueSatan reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

Excellent and now out of Beta Firebird is my choice for default browser although K-Meleon is a close runner up (Gecko based but without XUL). Opera compares quite badly as it seems to be less stable in its current version and unless you pay it is adware.

Fnatte79

Fnatte79 reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

By the way... saw that someone said that the regular Mozilla is better and has more features? *lol* Well, you need a computer-course for beginners to... why not look at this page to compare different features btw different browsers. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/compare/
Another thing... Firebird ROCKS! =)

stealthspy

stealthspy reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

Very Fast. For those who just want the 'Browser' part of mozilla.

illuvatar

illuvatar reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

Firebird is undoubtedly an improvement to mozilla: the dreaded clunkiness is practically gone, though Firebird still feels (and is) a bit heavy. I also like the Gecko engine which is quite fast and renders pages very beautifully (although it sometimes hangs unexpectedly). What I don't like is the limited customizability: Firebird is still too robust and offers little ways to customize the look and feel from within the browser. A little comparison: in my standard browser Opera you can create custom toolbars, make your own mouse gesture sets and keyboard shortcut sets and adjust them to your own wishes. One can also easily create and add new sidebar tabs (unlike the clumsy javascript method Firebird and Mozilla use, Opera 'recognizes' tabs by the 'rel=sidebar' definition that is added in the link anchor). This level of customizing cannot be offered by Firebird or any other XUL-based browser (unless XUL is dropped and they rewrite the browser...again). Opera also has some nice features Firebird still lacks: extended right-click functions, remove private data in two clicks, use of custom style sheets, saving sessions and restoring sessions after a crash, an *easy* password manager ;-) Anyway, nice try people, but I'll stick to Opera.

Julas

Julas reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

10 times better than IE, light, as fast as IE, secure, compatible with W3C standards, supports tab and plugins. Everything you want! :D
I have to say that people who complain about that browser just don't know how to use it! E.g. someone said popup blocking blocks all popups. It's not true, it blocks only popups automatically loaded with page, but doesn't block popups which are loaded by links, etc. And even if you want to allow some site to open popups onLoad, you can add it to the pages which can do that :)

BiggFatty

BiggFatty reviewed v0.7 on Oct 15, 2003

I tried the last version mostly to see if it had auto-complete (becuase mozilla doesn't have it), but I did see that it doesn't, and neither does it have nearly as many options as mozilla. Think of it as mozilla lite I guess.

vvx

vvx reviewed v0.6.1 on Oct 14, 2003

....It's not recomended for WEAKED user.

scodan

scodan reviewed v0.6.1 on Sep 30, 2003

This thing is a digital turd. If I'd open a bookmark drop-down list, then click on the browser window to dismiss the menu, part of the menu would disappear, while part of it would stay--and would NOT go away until I closed the entire application. Other times, if the menu went away, I could not access the same menu again--for NO apparent reason. You can't configure it to close tabs when double clicked, which to me seems like an obvious function to have. And if you open lots of tabs, well, they just keep getting smaller and smaller, until they are so tiny as to be inscrutable and essentially useless. The search bar sucks (and don't even tell me I should install some extension; I am rating the browser itself, not Joe Blow's Happy Slappy Search Bar Extension). The toolbar isn't configurable enough (no "Stop all", "Refresh all", or "Close all" buttons, for example--and yeah, I know "Reload all tabs" is available on the tab bar context menu). And I know it's beta, but I don't care: It makes no difference. The software is available in its current form, and I'm rating it in its current form. This thing is for people who enjoy getting a senseless "stick it to da man!" feeling. I find Opera 7.2 and MyIE2 much, much, MUCH better. I know it's heresy to say so, but this thing is just plain awful. Deal with it, Sparky.

L337JasE

L337JasE reviewed v0.6.1 on Sep 26, 2003

FANTASTIC, fast and very configurable browser. Lots of add-ons to add just the features you need without needlessly bloting it up. Type about:config in the address bar to make it act just how you want it. I use a skin tyo make it look just like IE. Less tech-savvy people should consider Avant browser - also very good.

muka3d

muka3d reviewed v0.6.1 on Sep 25, 2003

Absoulutely THE best browser on the planet, it's perfect, and it is still in the beta phase! I cannot wait until the final is out! For a maximum internet experience use it alongside Mozilla Thunderbird!

Scorched Earth

Scorched Earth reviewed v0.6.1 on Sep 23, 2003

Just gave this another try today. Now I remember why I gave up on it to begin with. I tried to manage my bookmarks but could not; if I drag a folder, it won't go where I drag it to, it skips to some seemingly random spot and my other bookmarks get scattered as well. Firebird wouldn't recognize my proxy settings for Proxomitron, the same exact settings that work fine in Mozilla proper. Well, that was just the icing on the cake, because I couldn't even browse the way I like to.

daxno

daxno reviewed v0.6.1 on Sep 13, 2003

Mozilla Firebird is the best browser I have worked with. It's simple, fast, has an excellent cache-management, compactibel with many plug-ins and above all : it's free (with no use of adware).

netnis

netnis reviewed v0.6.1 on Aug 27, 2003

freedom for internet!!!!!!!

adaminferior

adaminferior reviewed v0.6.1 on Aug 12, 2003

In response to "chimpypimpy's" review of the firebird 0.6.1:

Yes, taking the few additional seconds it takes to create a new folder and extract Firebird there does detract from your precious porn watching time but it is no burdensome job that a computer user of average skill would have a problem with.

The built in pop-up blocker does not block "ALL POPUPS" for example navigate to the website http://www.luxt.com/ this site requires a popup window to open to navigate, like this and many other sites set up in a similar fashion firebird has, if my memory serves me, always opened them.

The download manager in Firebird is nothing short of the download manager found in Internet explorer. Plus with the download sidebar you still have an alternative view of what you are downloading and what you have downloaded in the near past.

Despite what I have just said there are obviously still bugs and such to be found in firebird (and in every other piece of software under the digital sun) but like is shown in the program, at the head of this webpage, and in this review it is a beta piece of software and has not even made it to a 1.0 or even a 1.0 beta version. Do not download beta, AKA unfinished software if you cannot deal with software that still have known and unknown bugs to be worked out.

chimpypimpy

chimpypimpy reviewed v0.6.1 on Aug 11, 2003

After reading all the glowing reviews, I downloaded Firebird. There is no installer, you have to manually unzip this and make your own directory. The "built-in" popup stopper blocks ALL POPUPS so you cannot navigate normally. The download manager is poor. All in all this is a bad joke.

quezako

quezako reviewed v0.6.1 on Aug 3, 2003

this navigator is near perfect ! there is a lot of people to make it better every day. a module system to add a lot of features in one click ! (navigate with mouse gestures, themes, banner blocker, detect javascript links, customize menus and buttons...)
you can make your own personalized browser from it or just enjoy it right now.

geekzen

geekzen reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 30, 2003

I love this browser. IE looks weak and shriveled when put next o the burning usablity of firebird.

nexea

nexea reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 30, 2003

The system is now online. Everything should be fully operational!

Fnatte79

Fnatte79 reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 30, 2003

I can only say one word... OUTSTANDING!
It works with every page I'm usually on except for one and that is my bank, they have some script to veryfi that you are using internet explorer. So if anyone knows how to trick the site to belive that I'm using IE you would make my day!

vasarnap2000

vasarnap2000 reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 30, 2003

Works as a great replacement for those tasks I could only perform using Netscape or Mozilla.

To paraphrase a certain beer slogan: "Works great - less (hard drive) filling."

AlanS2001

AlanS2001 reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 30, 2003

Firebird rocks, can't wait till they integrage it into Mozilla.

FXSoftware

FXSoftware reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 29, 2003

Good release, no problem in installing / loading. Faster than ever. I've just a little bug, when renaming a shortcut in a folder on the toolbar. The folder button stay 'pushed' and so it can't be opened. Maybe those who have problems should delete the previous installation.

bobad

bobad reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 29, 2003

Not even stable. Would not load and run.

scots

scots reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 29, 2003

I've been using this since version 0.4, and it rocks! I never have any problems with it, and love that I can skin it. I never use IE anymore.

dacaveman

dacaveman reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 29, 2003

this is the best browser. ive used opera for months, IE for years, even tried MYIE2. firebird beats them all, the themes, the extension system. what more cud u ask for?

stuclark

stuclark reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 29, 2003

Phoenix is nice, but until the authors decide to make Phoenix work correctly with web pages, it doesn't deserve a 5.
Firebird (Pheonix) is coded to be as standards complient as possible. The reason some websites do not display correctly is due to design flaws within those websites, not Firebird. It is up to webmasters to code their sites properly, and not rely on proprietry MS extensions, not down to the Firebird team to create work-arounds for badly coded sites. Yes, I agree, some extensions / plugins won't install correctly at the moment; those problems are being worked on and will be fixed in the near future. The Firebird 0.7 release will include a lot of that sort of fix.
Firebird is the best browser available, and would get a 10 from me if I could...

ol55li

ol55li reviewed v0.6.1 on Jul 29, 2003

Amazing browser! Solid and fast. Extensions system is convenient. This is The Browser of new generation. - olzak

noredspoon

noredspoon reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 18, 2003

You have to understand that htis is still an early beta. It WILL be able to install the plugins easily in later stages. For the level that it is now, it's amazing I think. Fast, stable, and functional enough to use as your only browser.

vfxi

vfxi reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 18, 2003

Definately a winner and on the right track. Not as memory intensive and taxing on the system as thier other client and overall less bulky. It's also more versatile.

RedBadger

RedBadger reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 18, 2003

I figured I need to change my vote from a 5 to a 4. Phoenix is nice, but until the authors decide to make Phoenix work correctly with web pages, it doesn't deserve a 5.

Right now, on your own, you have to figure out how to install flash, java, shockwave, realplayer etc, on your own. This program provides zero info on doing that, and its something *every* browser should have built in, or come packaged with. Until the authors make Phoenix work with everything (like IE does), it will go nowhere.

debonair

debonair reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 18, 2003

I really like what's coming of phoenix. I've used it for quite a few months, and was waiting for a complete replacement of opera. Hasn't happened yet, but looks promising. Some of the extensions don't seem to work properly with Firebird yet and the normal problem with free software is you can't expect people to support the tools which come with it, or certain extensions you like, as the case may be. Keep it up tho folks!

cdaledave

cdaledave reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

Ogman -- I'm sorry to hear you've been having problems with FB. I've been running the nightly builds for a few months now and they've been incredible for me. Rare crashes, but nothing too annoying. I only use one extension, TBE, and the only extension problem I ever had was with TBE & javascript awhile back. If you're having problems, post to the forums at mozillazine.org. There's a good community there. If you were to check bugzilla, you'd see that there are a lot of bugs that have been fixed. I'd in no way call FB amateurish. It's a lean, very efficient version of Moz. But, atleast you'll go back to Opera, and not IE.

ogman

ogman reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

It's buggy and most of the extensions don't work. If Firebird becomes to only Mozilla available, I'm going back to Opera. The community is non-responsive to the features that people want, bugs rarely get fixed. This is nothing but an amatuerish version of Mozilla with a few pretty icons. It's the dumb, blonde, bimbo of browsers.

Orbit

Orbit reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

It's ok. 'Klunky' in that Mozilla sort of way. I still prefer MyIE2 for everything. Firebird doesn't load pages any faster than IE, and some of them even slower, doing a side by side comparison. The rendering is still that Mozilla thing - as in, not quite up to IE-snuff. I guess if you're anti-MS/IE you'll be happy, but I'm not enthralled like some seem to be here. MHO

Scorched Earth

Scorched Earth reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

Wow, it sure took them a while to develop this, but it's quite satisfactory. I vastly prefer Mozilla, because it incorporates features that I'd end up downloading separately anyway. FireBird is a lot faster though, it loads about as quickly as Internet Explorer. Still, it's not perfect and the tabs feature still isn't incorporated as well as I'd like. I wish tabs worked like in MyIE2 or Opera, or even have TabExtentions installed by default. They have quite a ways to go in developing this, but it's still a lot better at rendering pages than Opera.

Change

Change reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

This is the first Mozilla browser which made me doubt whether I should switch to it or not. The themeability & extension-architecture are great, the browser loads very fast, doesn't have a large memory footprint and renders pages well (although here and there I still notice some tiny bugs).

The reason why I'm not switching (yet) is because I'm still missing features from myIE2/GoSuRF, like drag a link/picture/text and open/save/search it. I hope there will be many more extensions released which will incorporate these options as well, now that this beats MS Internet Explorer 6.0 (by far)!

Joco

Joco reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

Fantastic. Beautiful theme. I've tried some tabbed browsers like AvantBrowser or myIE2 but always come back to Phoenix/Firebird.

I wish the tab and link bar appearance could be set through the preference dialog box: color of active/inactive tab, remove icon. May be it could be done in about:config but I don't see where. I used the same userChrome.css then Phoenix 0.5 for this.

If FB could have a built-in Flash blocker, it would be perfect.

veeoh

veeoh reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

This just gets better and better :)
5* from me :)

fxer81

fxer81 reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

This is finally the browser I've been waiting for, Mozilla without all the sweet junk in its nasty trunk.

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

Great, finally a new version. It is awsome. A must have! I miss some features from Mozilla but I can live without them.

Apollos

Apollos reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

Very good indeed. It loads pages faster than IE and consumes less memory. I give it 5/5.

freedomfighter

freedomfighter reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

I used the original Browser from Netscape and thought it was pants.. becasue it was compared to IE. But, Microsoft I am sorry to say has met its match.. this is FANTASTIC!, it loads fast, its rock solid with flying performance.. I would give this 10 Stars if I could, absolutley impressed and very well done to all concerened to a first class product

virtorio

virtorio reviewed v0.6 Glendale on May 17, 2003

This would be the eqivilant to Safari for Windows. It is fast, small and looks good. It is compatable with a great set of themes and extentions. And its very stable.

egg83

egg83 reviewed v0.5 on Feb 5, 2003

Have been using this browser for several weeks, and my general impressions are that this browser is truly a competitor to IE. The multi tab interface is a godsend to those who want to view more than one page at once. Of course, one could get IE wrappers, such as MyIE, or AvantBrowser, but with Phoenix, you get this functionality as part of the browser itself. Loads pages fairly fast, also, without all the email programs and other stuff that the full Mozilla version has, the program loads pretty quickly as well.

RedBadger

RedBadger reviewed v0.5 on Jan 12, 2003

This is an excellent web browser. Although I would recommend customizing the toolbar, as the default settings leave out some important buttons in my opinion. You can also download some nice skins from here: http://phoenity.com/phoenix.html

XF

XF reviewed v0.5 on Dec 12, 2002

After moreless 2 yaers using Opera I think I found something better or at least competitive in terms of speed, customization and user-friendliness. I haven't seen any problem with Flash/Java (maybe because I already had Mozilla installed)...
One thing I like: you can get all this power even on slower machines. Tried using it on an old 200mhz win95 pc and still got an enjoiable browsing... I don't ever think this can be done with new IEs.

mayakovski

mayakovski reviewed v0.5 on Dec 11, 2002

The Good:
Uses little memory.
Interface is not intrusive.

The Bad:
Loads pages slow.
Cannot organize bookmarks by folders and then by pages.

A good first effort, this could be a winner in time.

nivek_x

nivek_x reviewed v0.5 on Dec 9, 2002

For flash and other plugins copy them from the mozilla directory and paste into the phoenix plugin folder. Every thing works. Great browser.

Buggle

Buggle reviewed v0.5 on Dec 9, 2002

For this is the best browser I have ever used. Every time there is a new Phoenix release, it seems as there is nothing left to fix. But with every new release, they've done the trick, and everything just keeps on getting smoother.
The only downside to Phoenix (and the reason for the four stars) is the fact that you have to download an external program to be able to view flash, somthing like Java in Opera. I don't like that.

rsnidjik

rsnidjik reviewed v0.5 on Dec 9, 2002

Phoenix is an excellent browser, probably because it's just that -- a browser. It's not trying to be an e-mail client, html editor and a browser all at once. In the past month I've evaluated over 20 browsers and IE front-ends, and Phoenix is the one I'm continuing to use. The periodic releases are all stable and, recently, fast. For those who like to test software, there are nightly builds at the Phoenix site (search for it in the Mozilla pages). There's also a growing collection of attractive skins.

darkpepe

darkpepe reviewed v0.5 on Dec 8, 2002

Yeeeeehaw! This one will blow all others away!

trapanator

trapanator reviewed v0.5 on Dec 8, 2002

The best browser of ever! IE is slow and really suck.

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v0.5 on Dec 8, 2002

Excellent! Keeps getting better and better

XueLei

XueLei reviewed v0.4 on Dec 5, 2002

good

JEdwardP

JEdwardP reviewed v0.4 on Nov 24, 2002

It's leaner, and on my machine, noticeably faster than Mozilla 1.x was. I NEVER choose an alternate skin for skinnable apps, but I had to in this case, because the "modern" wasn't really usable for me and the "classic" was inexplicably corrupt. After finding an acceptable skin however, I'm happy with it. For my taste, Mozilla.org could abandon the main project, and concentrate entirely on Phoenix. I hope it will become even more lightweight; if so, it could eventually displace Opera in my browser order.

mooncalf

mooncalf reviewed v0.4 on Nov 3, 2002

phoenix 0.4 is starting up quick again unlike 0.3. flash does work you just have to download the plugin

Joco

Joco reviewed v0.4 on Oct 30, 2002

(Excellent)^2 browser. I started with version 0.3 and after 15 minutes of trial, I replaced all Mozilla 1.x on my computers by Phoenix. Recognizes XP visual style, better graphics, skinnable, move Preference submenu under Tools rather than Edit. The links in personal bar recognize the middle click to open in a new tab. Oddly enough, I submitted this request to Mozilla team since 1.0. And they did nothing. The young brother Phoenix is so much better, resolves a lot of inconsistencies and it's only at 0.4.

I have few requests:
- provide a the [New Tab] button.
- give a possibility to disable site icon

At least for me, the lack of support for Flash is not a problem, quite the contrary. Keep good working Phoenix team, congratulation.

neo1980

neo1980 reviewed v0.4 on Oct 30, 2002

It is bad because macromedia flash doesnt recognise it, configuring quicktime is still harder like other mozilla`s, i dont want anything tweakable, i want something that just works, and phoenix just isnt there yet

linux_email2000

linux_email2000 reviewed v0.4 on Oct 30, 2002

I absolutely love this browser. I believe that it is what mozilla should have been from the start. It is a browser first and foremost, not an HTML editor or news/mail client. I have been using this since 0.2 and have absolutely no qualms with it whatsoever.

Asmo

Asmo reviewed v0.4 on Oct 29, 2002

I like this software alot, seems to ues alot of mem (using 29 megs right now with just a couple tabs) lookin forward to more releases :)

MrPuddles

MrPuddles reviewed v0.3 on Oct 16, 2002

Version 0.3 is faster and more stable than 0.1 and 0.2. Can't wait to see 0.4!

mooncalf

mooncalf reviewed v0.3 on Oct 16, 2002

feels slightly slower than 0.2 but then again it might need more testing

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v0.3 on Oct 16, 2002

After I found tabbed browsing *was* in fact there (thanks MrPuddles) I really love this browser! I was in love with Mozilla 1+ as it was, but this is an even better incarnation.

Very sexy!

MyMaster

MyMaster reviewed v0.3 on Oct 16, 2002

not quite there yet, but getting real close

RockRabbit

RockRabbit reviewed v0.3 on Oct 16, 2002

Simple the best browser I've used. Super fast. Used to use Netscape 4.8 as my main browser with whatever Mozilla build was out as number 2.

Played with 0.1, liked 0.2 and now I only use 0.3. Looking forward to what the gang releases next.

ck42

ck42 reviewed v0.3 on Oct 16, 2002

This thing is simply awesome. Certainly, it doesn't have ALL the features of the others that have been maturing for LONG periods of time, but those things will come in time.
For now, it's fast, stable, enuf features for me....and it just plain works!
I was a die-hard IE fan, hate to admit it but IE is a pretty darn good browser IMO, but Phoenix has been getting about 90% of my browser time since I started using it.
IMO, Phoenix is progressing the way Mozilla SHOULD have.

eFX

eFX reviewed v0.2 on Oct 6, 2002

Wow, I used IE just to put up with it, tried Netscape a long time ago, hated that, and then Opera about a year ago. Just when I was going to give up and settle for IE I try Phoenix. Phoenix is fast and simple, Im going to stay with Phoenix till 1.0 . Great job

TheTester

TheTester reviewed v0.2 on Oct 3, 2002

I am honestly in love with this program. It's like mozilla without all the extra stuff that only slows down your browsing experiance. Lots of cool extra features! Awesome program, nothing else even competes!

Agent31

Agent31 reviewed v0.2 on Oct 3, 2002

Mozilla on a weight-loss program + a whole different bunch of noggins getting together to make it work.

Phoenix 0.1 bumped Mozilla 1.2a down to #2 and IE compeltely off the list, Phoenix 0.2 has wiped the board clean and now stands alone! I know, I'm just raving about it and hardly reviewing it, but I honestly don't know what to say other than "wow", and "it might have taken a long time coming, but damn is it worth it!"

Phoenix Rocks!

CycloneX

CycloneX reviewed v0.2 on Oct 2, 2002

Phoenix is built with only peformance in mind and it's pretty fast with the 01 version..I like it cuz I can go back at least 8 pages with the back button (Athlon with 512MB cache,Slot A) With I.E it would start loading those last 5 pages... So Phoenix goes faster.. Mind you I'm using at least 3 other browsers (MultiBrowser Bar,Crazy Browser,Phoenix,I.E) Phoenix wins in the speed Dept and will stay on this 'puter...

Dapumkins

Dapumkins reviewed v0.2 on Oct 2, 2002

Not bad at all for an early build, but you must exclude from Windows Blinds. Also no import from mozilla. Version 0.2

MrPuddles

MrPuddles reviewed v0.2 on Oct 2, 2002

There is nothing better than Phoenix with the PrefBar extension. Now I can dynamically turn off/on javascript/cookies/popups w/o having to go to the preferences menu. Fast and agile... how I like it.

sirhardi

sirhardi reviewed v0.2 on Oct 2, 2002

HAs anybody looked at the cross compatibility of the scripting on webpages?
Does it render as it was meant to be ?

I gave it a five prior and am doing it again, as this is what i would have hoped for netscape to be like before AOL took over.

Is this also developed under their financing or not ?
Could be the steppimg stone to switch from IE for AOL huh ?

Not thjat i bvelieve that AOL uitself will make anymore strides.

linux_email2000

linux_email2000 reviewed v0.2 on Oct 2, 2002

This browsers is amazing. In fact, one must wonder why the concept of Pheonix (scaled down mozilla) was not done by the mozilla team earlier on. We all think it deserves a 5 but let me ask you this. Why would anyone still use mozilla? If you don't use chatzilla, or mozilla mail then why would one even think of using it?

Arnvid

Arnvid reviewed v0.2 on Oct 2, 2002

The fluttering browser is down in a new release. The sidebar is here and some more preferences, and the bookmark and new-tab button are very useful. Still it's only Zero-point-2, so heck, one should accept to wait for some parts. Apart from that the second release seem to be some good step forwards! Although the philosophy of taking some hours with trials and debugging to save two minutes of manual reading is a very good standard, here I would like to add from the "manual" (had to read it waiting for the new release). It say: "PLEASE NOTE: You are strongly recommended to delete any old Phoenix profile you may have and create a new one for 0.2. This can be done by running phoenix.exe -ProfileManager. We've made many changes in 0.2, and doing so will likely reduce problems. We feel justified in recommending this given that this is not a final release, but simply a testing milestone. Should you choose not to delete your profile, we recommend deleting your profile's downloads.rdf (which just keeps information about current and past downloads) at the very least. Once you have downloaded the binary, use winzip or gzip to unzip Phoenix to an empty directory. Do not unzip Phoenix to a directory that already contains a binary. Either delete the existing directory completely, move it out of the way or create a new directory. If you install Phoenix on top of an existing Phoenix or Mozilla directory you will have problems. To uninstall Phoenix simply delete the Phoenix directory. This will leave your profile in place for use by future Phoenix installs. If you wish to remove your Phoenix profile you can delete the Phoenix dir from your Windows Application Data directory or remove the .phoenix dir from your linux home directory.". So as many as myself normally read the manuals in the end, let's be a bit revolutionaries here and follow this part of the manual upfront this time, eh?

Arnvid

Arnvid reviewed v0.1 on Sep 26, 2002

Okay, I was a bit prepared by all of you below - LOL. As said, its truly unique to find a "0.1" release on this level - still maybe the most important statement the release of Phoenix makes is that it give a glimpse into a future based on the open source core work done by the gang in Mozilla. Today Netscape, Galeon, K-Meleon, Chimera have built on this work, and thay have all absolutely made a statement. Still with the release of Phoenix - keeping in mind it's a 0.1 release, something new entered the stage. Then we don't only talk about Phoenix but all the builds that will pop up based on all the work done from the Mozilla / gecko base - may they be called Phoenix, Firebird or other... I'm tempted to call Phoenix the start of the "next generation" of gecko development, still trying to hold back I have to admit that I personally see it as the best build I have worked with so far. Lot's of things to tweak and add of course, and apart from what have been added below I want to mention another part I got very positive surprised with. This is that Phoenix solves the problem with small font size that's found in Netscape and Mozilla, and this was especially a problem for fill in forms where many had to write their post first in a text editor and then paste it into the fill in form. I have myself never used the built in email client (more than happy with the Pegasus / Poco combination I use) - neither the composer or chat. So I beg the developer team of Phoenix not to add these parts! Yes I understand all those who use the built-in email client in Netscape and Mozilla - but if added, please do this as an optional add-on and not built in features. Last: - when I found all these five star ratings below, I downloaded Phoenix with the intention of hunting strongly for bugs, crash and others that could make my statement a different four star rating at least. Phoenix have now been default browser on my machine for 24 hrs - and I have not been able to find something that I can defend a four star rating with. So let me here become a member of the majority - a gecko-sheep if you like as Phoenix deserves every piece of the five stars given. Normally I'm not such a pervert that I "love" software - I love my wife and children, but heck - I already love Phoenix...

cybot55

cybot55 reviewed v0.1 on Sep 26, 2002

Best Browser ever !!

Java - it works great with java that i got from sun microsystems

Javascript - Great

flash - works fine ( i needed to re download the plugin)

Faster than Opera and it can handle sites such as WWE.com !! perfectly !!!

Best Browser ever !!

spoogod

spoogod reviewed v0.1 on Sep 26, 2002

Very fast, lacking many config options, but dedicated mozilla users will know how to get round this (prefs.js)

DigitalSin: Tabs are present (thank god) - try hitting CTRL-T

Shame they didn't include the smaller toolbar buttons from the pinball theme as opposed to bulky orbit buttons, but it won't loose any points for this, as adding other themes will most likely be included in future releases.

As usual, another excellent release from the Mozilla team. Other than Linux, this has to be the best free download ever.

Long Live Mozilla! FOAD IE!

sirhardi

sirhardi reviewed v0.1 on Sep 26, 2002

Most excellent enhanced Modzilla candidate.

As echoed below, start and load times much improved.

Missing so far is the plug in capability whixch i have fouind to be difficult at times with Mod as well..speaking of flash, java and shockwave, they are not recognized by this browser yet.

Thios of course is normal due to 01 release and it is GREAT !!!

jrepin

jrepin reviewed v0.1 on Sep 26, 2002

Nice work. it really surprised me. I am using Mozilla as defult browser and didn't expect much from a 0.1 release. But this one runs great and has some nice features like it is extremely fast and uses much les memory then Mozilla. And ability to custumize toolbar is great. This has a lot of potential. I'll still use Mozilla for my defult broser and mail app but Phoenix is also staying on my HD.

marty

marty reviewed v0.1 on Sep 25, 2002

Excellent - especially for a 0.1 release. This browser actually does have the potential to kick IE's butt. I've made it my default browser under XP the first day. I'll try out the Linux version shortly

hoogen

hoogen reviewed v0.1 on Sep 25, 2002

I tried this out last night, very fast! Almost out does my Opera. Very good for a first release, and I can't wait for future update, although I will be sticking with Opera myself.

swirvenkirven

swirvenkirven reviewed v0.1 on Sep 25, 2002

This is good. The tabbed browsing and the pop-up blocking are all preset. It works very well to me, to be the first release. If you like Mozilla or Netscape,but do not use their mail client, then give this a try. This browser does not have the email client. Remember this is the first release and their is a lot to come still. I have been using this as my default browser for 2 days now and have had no problems at all.

MrPuddles

MrPuddles reviewed v0.1 on Sep 25, 2002

Phoenix is much faster than Mozilla. Startup time and memory footprint is MUCH smaller. This does have tabbed browsing, just click your mouse wheel to open a new tab.

DigitalSin

DigitalSin reviewed v0.1 on Sep 25, 2002

I think this has potential, but its missing my favorite feature: tabbed browsing!

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