Someone reviewed v on Jul 5, 2022

Pros: 555

Cons: 555

Bottom Line: 555

tomkelly reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Aug 22, 2013

still one of the best IMs

natong reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Oct 1, 2011

new version 15.4.3538.513

neant reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Aug 9, 2011

i can't believe that how hard MS can make this software looks so bad now, thank you MS for your hard work

susansusie reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Aug 3, 2011

It's helpful for me to contact my client with message or call.

jastonas reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Dec 13, 2010

70mbs to chat with only supported protocol windows live. And you still cant send .exe files and .mp3 (not even with an option).
MirandaIM, Pidgin, etc etc... so many more instant messengers that kick it good..

ZenWarrior reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Oct 7, 2010

Does not install on XP.

spikeoscar reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Oct 4, 2010

AGAIN
don't work also in windows seven
troubles for install, don't begin a conversation with a contact, etc.

Input Overload reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Oct 4, 2010

Managed to get rid of all the junk I didn't need & just have MSN. Regarding adverts etc.. Go the URL below.

http://apatch.org/

mlazzaro reviewed v15.4.3502.0922 on Oct 4, 2010

It´s freeze in my computer, and have a lot of advertising. Try Miranda, or Digsby.

twocandles reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jul 27, 2010

Still not working behind a proxy with authentication... Last working version was 8.5. I don't understand why they have the option to set up a proxy. It seems it works if you already have your contacts synced with the server, but it seems the contacts use a diferent server, and that connection doesn't support authenticated proxies.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 28, 2010

All of the bugs will kill this.... people will switch to yahoo IM
or just use Digsby

Owilliams reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 26, 2010

Notes:

Experiencing a little quirkiness with the webcam chat when connecting to someone running the 2009 client (Lifecam VX-3000) . Webcam "effects" feature also hangs when attempting to open.

The msnmsgr.exe process continues to run after exiting.

Facebook and Myspace contacts not showing as online when they are, unless they are simultaneously logged into Live Messenger..

I really like the browser integration and the ability to combine various social accounts into a single place.

Once the bugs are knocked out, this will be a very worthy update to the Messenger client.

stevvie reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 26, 2010

thats another gig of memory i'll have to buy. 100+ meg of memory used (ohh taskmanager shows 42meg ProcessExplorer shows 78 CLOSED) for an instant messenger program.

pjb reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 26, 2010

@ spikeoscar - you are correct. Had had the same issues.
As a tester I also tried it on 2 Windows 7 PC's - both *64.
I even uninstalled one by one on 1 pc all software and tried re-running the installer and it failed. I then did a fresh clean install of the OS and in then installed without a problem - very strange. Hopefully by the next build they will iron out issues with the installer. (also on the same pc - whilst the beta install would fail the current non beta installed ok) - 5 for the app but -2 for the install process.
Also aokromes is correct this version is not designed to work with XP.

spikeoscar reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 25, 2010

don't work also in windows seven
troubles for install, don't begin a conversation with a contact, etc.

aokromes reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 25, 2010

@baki_princ if you are trying to run it under windows XP it don' goes to work.

baki_princ reviewed v15.3.2804.607 Beta on Jun 25, 2010

"15.3.2804.607 is not a valid 32 apps"

mattnotley2004 reviewed v14.0.8117.416 on May 16, 2010

There's a portable version available from ncnblue [dot] com / wlmportable
Still my favourite Instant Messaging app.

mfarmilo reviewed v14.0.8117.416 on May 14, 2010

A good little program, I have no real complaints about it. The popups someone mentioned (such as the 'today' thing) can all be disabled in the options. You can even set it to behave itself and sign on automatically (if that's what you want) at Windows startup and sit patiently in the corner until you want it. Unlike yahoo messenger - if you set that to sign on at startup, up it pops onto the screen as though the first thing you want to do on switching on is obviously use the damn thing. It's just bad manners in my view. I complained about it years ago, they said they had no plans to change it so I refuse to use it.

thartist reviewed v14.0.8117.416 on May 13, 2010

Nothing that A-Patch and Msg Live Plus! can't fix.

No alternative is as good for this protocol.

AmpFeare reviewed v14.0.8117.416 on May 12, 2010

runs fine for me. u say all the popups are annoying? if you take the time to go into the options, you can slim the program down to just the ad banner pretty much :/ and im sure theres STILL results on google thatll remove the ad ezpz

works fine, buy a new computer.

Banquo reviewed v14.0.8117.416 on May 12, 2010

This program has turned into total crapware, with all the ads, the multiple popup windows and other stupid annoyances they have crammed into it. I also hate how it assumes you want it to automatically start with Windows.

commander2001 reviewed v2009 (14.0.8064) on Jun 11, 2009

they need to fix some problems in this

jp_ext reviewed v2009 (14.0.8064) on May 20, 2009

The one and ony :)

Joco reviewed v2009 (14.0.8064) on Feb 17, 2009

Does this thing know how to rename a contact?

It's very annoying that the obtrusive "buddy ABC is online" pops up all the time during a presentation. Missing tabbed interface.

Advertisement! especially when adult related which pops up during a presentation. That is so unprofessional.

I have heard a few times people in my company who got hit by virus or worm via their MSN Client.

Use Miranda IM and get rid of all of these. Miranda is low on resource, multi protocol and if you spend sometime to customize it, it looks very nice.

saadmuhammad reviewed v2009 (14.0.8064) on Feb 17, 2009

Can you download this window messenger into my computer please.

kholdstare reviewed v2009 (14.0.8064) on Feb 16, 2009

still one of the best IM's out there. and guys get over it tabs are a useless feature. and the big improvement is you can turn most of the objects displayed on the main window off in the options menu

JackKnife reviewed v2009 on Jan 11, 2009

While the application itself is ok,it must surely load up with one of the most cluttered 'let's see how many buttons,ads,and icons we can cram into a small surface' interfaces of any app out there. Thank god there are third party utilities to clear the clutter.

I will agree with one other reviewer that the lack of a tabbed conversation window is ridiculous.

guru_v reviewed v2009 on Jan 11, 2009

I'll leave the critiques to those who use this more than I do - I use it very infrequently.

I will say that this is not new however, as I have had it on my machine for over 3 weeks - and yes, I checked the revision down to the last digit.

dpcdpc11 reviewed v2009 on Jan 10, 2009

huge useless chat windows with no tab support... do i need to say more?? no tabs in an IM app released in 2009??? file transfer is also a 'beach'... but hey.. they finally got groups... and cool themes... now this is a true technological break though!!

frites reviewed v2009 on Jan 10, 2009

WTF have they done to my messenger ? Booo
I dont like this new version at all. Luckily i just made a True image backup.Pheww.
Its just like Vista. Poo.

Captain Hook reviewed v2009 on Jan 9, 2009

The worst CRAP I have on my computer this year!

1. I had wrong language installed.
2. I dont't wnat their crap Photo Gallery since I already have better programs on my computer.
3. I had this message: FATAL ERROR: unable load necsseray Windows Live libraries
4. windows Live installation without any text confirmation
5. Unable to log in to Windows Live Messenger
6. All contacts got ****ed up! Can't find them now....
7. Can't sort contacts like before.
8. All contacts lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BIG PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!

commander2001 reviewed v2009 on Jan 9, 2009

its nice i give it a 4

pjb reviewed v2009 on Jan 9, 2009

Beta news has this wrong. The file down loader is still 2009 Beta 2 (14.0.8050.1202) Nice product - wrong version listed.

Ciolouse reviewed v2009 on Jan 9, 2009

What is the serial number of this final release?

keiichi999 reviewed v2009 on Jan 9, 2009

yes, it is.

And| reviewed v2009 on Jan 9, 2009

Is this the final version?

betabettabest reviewed v2009 Beta 2 (14.0.8050.1202) on Dec 23, 2008

Look before you leap. It works fine for me, and is the most elegant version yet in terms of fit & finish, layout of controls, etc. The most irritating bug from the previous beta (conversation window wouldn't auto-scroll) is fixed. Video calls are easier to initiate. Still can't boldface or italicize in my conversations, though.

But for a number of users, including my main chat buddy, installing this version breaks their windows live installation altogether. 'Windows Live Communications Platform has encountered a Problem' etc. Logon is impossible. In other words, messenger becomes unusable. For some of them, the problem persists even after uninstalling & downgrading bacfkwards.

Keep checking message boards, Microsoft user forums, etc. There's no sign they've really figured out what's wrong or how to fix it, so upgrade at your own risk.

some guy reviewed v2009 Beta 2 (14.0.8050.1202) on Dec 22, 2008

bloat crap

picsoetje reviewed v2009 Beta 2 (14.0.8050.1202) on Dec 22, 2008

I have had it with all the betas 1-2-3-4-99 during much too long time by now.
No final release = a rating 1 (a pitty that I can't go below this).

Adrian79 reviewed v2009 Beta 2 (14.0.8050.1202) on Dec 22, 2008

good stuff

Sven123456789 reviewed v2009 Beta (14.0.5027.908) on Oct 11, 2008

Its tied in with all the other stupid windows live crap. Advise to microsoft. 1st, stop calling everything windows this, windows that. Just call it what it used to be, MSN Messenger. Same for all the other bundled software. 2cd, keep the downloads seperate. If i want to try the newest version of messenger, I don't need to go through the Windows live riot act. Didn't find anything spectacular about this version. It worked, but I liked the 8.1 interface better. Which reminds me. I couldn't find it. Its no longer listed in Betanews. Only 7.5 version showed up. Had to go to microsofts site to search for it. Guess they really want people upgrading to this. If you have 8.1 already, Just stay put. Its more than o.k.

Buggle reviewed v2009 Beta (14.0.5027.908) on Sep 28, 2008

This looks very promising. The interface (design) changed quite a bit, looks more mature and just feels better. However, the user still has the impression that it is not yet finished: here and there you get the feeling that stuff can and should still be tweaked. It has an unfinished feel. But they are definitely on the right track.

There are some issues with this version.
1. Previous versions opened Internet Explorer for Hotmail, even if Firefox was put to default browser. This version no longer does that, and I think it is a downside.
2. The Hotmail inbox function of messenger does not function anymore: when you click inbox, you are directed to the msn main page. Maybe this has something to do with the previous point.
3. It does not keep the settings of WLM 8.5: all my smilies are gone and other settings like sounds as well.

vesser reviewed v2009 Beta (14.0.5027.908) on Sep 22, 2008

Still getting error from wlcomm when i try to run the program. I get this error from the first beta and still is not repaired.

pjb reviewed v2009 Beta (14.0.5027.908) on Sep 22, 2008

I have been using this since it's official release a few days ago. It is a vast improvement on 8.5 and a nice improvement from previous 9 builds.

Have not had any issues with this version.

JustExtreme reviewed v8.5 Final on May 25, 2008

I'm running it on Server 2003. Provolino you don't know anything so don't try and be smart. The reason it fails to install is because the Windows Live Installer which installs messenger and other applications is not in the compatibility list for it so you have to obtain the windows live messenger installer seperately from the windows live installer.

provolino reviewed v8.5 Final on Dec 14, 2007

drixer:
Windows 2003 is a server o/s, not adapt for chatting or other similar tasks (this could be the reason why it's not compatible)

frites reviewed v8.5 Final on Nov 9, 2007

Agreed mfarmilo,
no serious XP user wants all this guff.
You can download the messenger only on sotfpedia.
Here:
http://www.softpedia.com...r-8-Download-68149.html

Cheers

mfarmilo reviewed v8.5 Final on Nov 7, 2007

This isn't the proper 'standalone' installer for Messenger. It fires up a selection screen for the whole plethora of the 'live' packages, then downloads the ones selected.

How about a link to the proper installer ?

Adrian79 reviewed v8.5 Final on Nov 7, 2007

works great on vista!

drixter reviewed v8.5 Final on Nov 7, 2007

Won't work on Windows 2003 SP2, someone know why?

Sven123456789 reviewed v8.5 Final on Nov 7, 2007

Not bad. Little more pleasing than 8.1. Is it the best? Can't say that. Until AIM and Windows live msgr allow you to be invisible to certain users like Yahoo does, I can't give this a 5. Tried the new mail also. Its not bad also. Allot better than the beta version i tried in Sept. that crashed so much i couldn't really test it. If you use this, aka windows msgr,- msn messager, this is a good upgrade.

arjesus reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Oct 28, 2007

Still the best messenger, beautiful interface, full of tools, the best video/audio chat, but he's using too much RAM.

AND POST THE CHANGELOG!!!

terminalx reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

Works as noted, could do without the ads, no idea on this adult friend finder as I suspect that omega has some other problems.

Mine shows logmein ads.

Haven't tried with a yahoo user, previous builds are very limited on either client of what you can do on the other.

bgronas reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

THere is nothing new in this version you absolutely need. Just stay cool, this is just a worthless download

sandersw reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

Yes, the installer worked for me, I now have version 8.5.1288.816 .

The servers may indeed be a little slow at the moment.

My only slight worry was that doing an upgrade as I was, it first said it was uninstalling the old version first, it then moved on & there was a long delay as it presuambly waited for the servers. I do hope it had done the right thing (TM) and at least downloaded the files for the new one before removing the old :-)

omega5475 reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

>Sven123456789 : Your version of Windows Update is probably outdated or Automatic Update service is disabled.

The installer connects to ads.adultfriendsfinder.com to download files. It's funny that a giant company such as Microsoft needs to have adwares. I'm guessing they are trying to promote their anti-malware products, lol.

The version info doesn't state that this is a beta so this is kinda puzzling.

Sven123456789 reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

Installer didn't work. Why use this type of download. Everyone has broadband, we can handle the full file. Unless they don't want you to have it.

djactivator reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

took a while to install with previous version already on system but installed fine! Looks very nice! I love the new interface. Cant wait to a-patch to update their version for this one so i can remove the adware/nags :)

GoodThings2Life reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

This is a web-based installer, and with everyone and their brother downloading it, their servers were probably a bit overwhelmed yesterday.

This is the biggest reason why I *hate* web bundles.

That said, the product itself is excellent, as usual.

googun reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

The installer never finished its job. Tried a few of its suggested fixes to no avail. Will wait for the next beta. The installer in the previous 8.5 beta worked fine.

soulutionswe reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

I have the same problem as tbresson. However, I believe that Microsoft are having some general server problems at the moment. Can't seem to connect to microsoft.com or windows update either.

tbresson reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

I like MSN Messenger and I can live with the adware but the new beta 2 is simply poorly done. This is not due to the product itself but to the new installer.

I can't install it on my machine. It's as simple as that.

It says "Checking for installed products" until I get an error saying that it was unable to download the program.

First I wonder, why can't it detect I'm using the previous beta version. So I uninstalled that. No difference.

Then I wondered, ok the error description says it might be due to: "...that the Windows Live installer website is [...] blocked by your firewall", so that would mean that the installer needs access through my firewall to download & install a program which works fine without wihtout firewall access (through http-requests).

This will leave every person behind a firewall they can't control in a situation where they can't use this version of MSN messenger due to the installer. Not very clever.

Of course it could be related to the fact that the servers that provide messenger simply is overloaded but the server from which you download the installer is not. In any way, a more suitable error would have been in place rather than:

"There was a problem downloading this product."

Sorry for anyone who thinks it's unethical to rate a program by the installer and not the program itself.

UPDATE: If you uninstalled, get the previous version here: http://www.filehippo.com...oad_msn_messenger/?2748

MikeDiack reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

It looks good. Have tried it at home via the new WLInstaller.exe

_BUT_

The WLInstaller.exe seems to do weird stuff via firewalls etc. The long and short of it is that the installer won't download the files here at work, and as far as I can tell (from the notes they ask you to check if it fails) this is due to some firewall exceptions that need to be set up. For people like me, behind a corporate firewall/proxy, this is now useless as the installer won't download the files.

Why on earth couldn't they have stuck with the original method of giving regular download links for each individual program.

Daft!

darkripper reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

4 for the installer

installation process sucks

otherwise msn worths 5/5

pjb reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 6, 2007

Don't bee fooled by the 1.72 MB installer. It is a set-up installer which encourages you to install other live products.

You should un-select all the bits you would rather not have on your pc prior to the installer downloading messenger.

As for messenger it's self not sure why this is listed a Beta 2, it no longer has the words or reference to beta on it! The version number shows as: 8.5.1288.816

I mark this as 4 because it works the way it should, and is a good messenger client. I have not lowered my score due to my personal dislike of the new installer.

Ian C. reviewed v8.5 Beta 2 on Sep 5, 2007

I give it a 5 just because my Moo display picture. He's awesome, he just pwns grass all day, and automatically does different things depending on what emoticons I use.

aalaap reviewed v8.5 Beta on Jun 29, 2007

Looks great and goes well with Vista, but I really wish the installer was about.. one-fourth the size that it is right now. 18.5mb? Come on.

xproject51 reviewed v8.5 Beta on Jun 18, 2007

@V.A.

When you exit Live Messenger, you are automatically logged off to the live server. Stop crying.

spoonypound reviewed v8.5 Beta on Jun 6, 2007

Finaly MS fix most of the bugs we had with WLM 8.1 and Vista...work perfect now with some improvement...bravo to the team, even if it took 3 months to fix it with ver-8.5 Bêta....I am using a HP-Pavillion 753 N upgraded with Vista Integral When trying a video conversation with WLM 8.1 or 8.0 or 7.5 the microphones from both participants were automatically set to a min level and we had no control over them...ect...With WLM 8.5 Bêta its all fix now

photonboy reviewed v8.5 Beta on Jun 4, 2007

It's free, and it just WORKS.

I'm seeing a lot of ridiculously low scores for trivial reasons. How often do you even stare at the AD anyway? The program is normally minimized to the System Tray.

You can hide the side TABS to clean up the Interface which is pretty clean already.

A "1" because you can't sign out and exit with one button? Anyway, wouldn't exiting the program be basically the same thing? I don't even see the issue let alone wasting time and energy complaining about it.

Some complaints are almost like dissing your BMW because it doesn't have a USB port for your iPod.

yourmum reviewed v8.5 Beta on Jun 1, 2007

I'm not sure what you are complaining about...if it weren't for these ads, the MSN/WLM network would not be able to remain alive. It would have shut down long ago.
Also, having SP2 as a mandatory requirement isn't bad...it makes the computer much more stable, and more compatible.

I give it a five. Very stable, alot faster, and looks great!! :)

V.A reviewed v8.5 Beta on Jun 1, 2007

There is still no "log off and exit" button in the buttonbar. It has been asked again and again, but : NO, MS continues to ignore.

aokromes reviewed v8.5 Beta on May 31, 2007

I think SP 2 must be mandatory for all the programs, there is no reason for no install it.

GhoS reviewed v8.5 Beta on May 31, 2007

Not sure why people grumble about SP2 being a requirement. You should already have updated, most programs will require it so its your fault if you didn't upgrade to it.
That aside, interesting update and nice to have some tweaks in places. Always been a good program if a little bit on the heavy side feature-wise than where it began.
I wish we could install only pieces we really wanted.

vercinstex reviewed v8.5 Beta on May 31, 2007

very bad it require xp sp2
negative

pjb reviewed v8.5 Beta on May 31, 2007

Works well on Vista & it's nice to see that aero is supported. I agree - I think it would be nice without ad's.

bigmama reviewed v8.5 Beta on May 31, 2007

i like it
simple, fast, no bugs

i'd like tabs and no ads
thats why i gave 4

PRoBiSoNe reviewed v8.5 Beta on May 31, 2007

Never experienced connection issues. never had any real issues at all. Each update the app gets better and more refined. Indeed there are some things that I could live without and take the appropriate steps to get rid of those annoyances. But all in all this is one of the best IM apps available. Everything you need, txt, voip, file sharing, etc. etc.

Mirrebex reviewed v8.1.0178 on May 24, 2007

+ messpatch and messenger discovery it´s a great IM. ;)

Letterman reviewed v8.1.0178 on Mar 22, 2007

Used to be nice. Now it's just bloatware, slow and keep shutting down for no reason. Too bad they went that way.

lhdal reviewed v8.1.0178 on Jan 30, 2007

It's AD-WARE, its protocol is problemmatic, offline messaging is buggy. There were many privacy problems and some are still present.

For example you know if someone deletes you from their contact lists.

It's widespread just because it came with Windows, auto-started with Windows, and auto-launched by some Microsoft programs.

microFawad reviewed v8.1.0168 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

the best version of MSN that I have ever seen.

id242 reviewed v8.1.0168 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

windows live messenger is simple. easy to use. very effective. does what it says it should do. no complaints here.

castiglione reviewed v8.1.0168 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

All this whining about bloatware and adware is getting tiresome. Who the hell cares if it's bloatware or adware? I would presume that most, if not all, of you have huge HD spaces, so this "bloatware" issue is nullified by default.

As for the ad space, let's leave that one alone, I could say something here, but i don't feel the need to get nasty. Also, I'll keep the ad there, it's small (only 1 in by 2 in) and it's not intrusive or anything.

I gave it a five to compensate for the negative views, and because I have always liked WLM.

crowbar82 reviewed v8.1.0168 Beta on Dec 13, 2006

http://mess.be/

Todd 13 reviewed v8.1 Beta on Nov 6, 2006

Download the mess patch to get rid of the ads.

ugarden1990 reviewed v8.1 Beta on Nov 4, 2006

I like the program but i am highly dissapointed about that whole C:\$Extend\UsnJrnl:$J file thing....what is up with that and why does the file size grow so quickly....how do i disable it???

i would really like to know.....

i disabled the service but the file is still growing??? What is that?

help is appreciated

asaenz reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

WOW - 53,000K on my system for a program that should be a simple chat program. We know it can be slimmer because others are able to do it yet greedy MS keeps it fat to keep their bank accounts fat from advertising income. Clicking on a button to view a contact's information caused my computer to reset like a warm reboot -- who knows which files may have been damaged from that so I did a restore from a backup I had done a few days before. (yes I know it's a beta but consider this a warning)

HurricaneGame reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

And|, it's always bein adware.

Drakir reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

Its getting better and better all the time. But im still missing one feature. To be able to set a state by group. So i can have the ones at work see me as online and others as busy or even offline. Kinda annoyed with their feedback as i have mailed them 3 times over the past years about this feature. Guess they dont like it...

And| reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

Ad-ware? What the ....?

foobah reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

8.0 was fine, but kept bugging me to 'upgrade', so i did.
What a load of cr@p. Why can't they decide on a look and leave it alone, they keep messing with it and its sooo annoying.

adam.yao reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

Wait until messenger live plus for this version is available.

veeoh reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

i dont see why people say this is buggy - never had a single issue - as for bloat? who cares, i mean really - ram is dirt cheap, whats the problem? I think people like to moan for moanings sake.

Adrian79 reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

works great..love this app, googletalk LMFAO.. i dont have a "bloat" issue to cry about ..just a nice IM client from ms

bye

speedwaystar reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 31, 2006

When Google Talk goes multi-network (which is nigh) this horrible bloated THING will finally die a well-deserved death.

horsecharles reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 30, 2006

Bundle free calling ala Skype...+ a free LOCAL phone # ala AOL / Lycos / Voicestick, & I might be tempted-- otherwise, 2 free calls don't cut it...

phiber0ptik reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 30, 2006

Sabz, buggy as hell? Can you specify that because I havent seen any :) Anyhow, it does what it says :p But its so bloated I give it a 3. I would recommend gtalk over this one, but just one prob... how many use that on your contact list? :) Miranda and GAIM are two other IM's worth looking at.

Sabz reviewed v8.1 Beta on Oct 30, 2006

still as buggy as hell, MPL4.10 should make the lame Windows Live Messenger experience better than it is now

macstorm reviewed v8.0.0812 on Sep 29, 2006

Hey killhippie, I solved the problem by disabling the msnjournal service..

McAleck reviewed v8.0.0812 on Sep 1, 2006

freakin bloatware

slimy reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 13, 2006

As of yesterday, a new version of Messenger 8.0 is now ready for your downloading pleasure - version 8.0.0812. Think of this release just like that little dash of salt on your big delicious breakfast. Almost nothing has changed to the perceptible eye – but enough to make a difference. Specifically:

- Many people will notice serious improvements to the quality of audio and video

- Fewer messenger crashes, hangs, and connectivity issues.

http://messengersays.spa...F7FD930829E!21754.entry

Captain Hook reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 11, 2006

To bad it is only in English!

Information were to find other languages is lacking!

killhippie reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 9, 2006

The WLM installs messenger sharing usn journal reader service C:\$Extend\UsnJrnl:$J it shows up in services, thats what was the causing the defrag error, sorry if saying jrnl reader service was misleading. I bit the bullet and installed this newer version, so far so good but still why does that reader services metatadata leap up from 80mb to 133mb after a virus scan? it has to be writing to that service it not just reading from it as MS says, still its seems ok so far and I do like the new look and features, yes a little heavy on resources but as new apps come out they will be as they pack more in, a pc's lifecycle is short so more ram will always be the best upgrade for an older machine, so no moaning there on my part. So far so good :-) Ok I take this all back the metadata showing in perfect disk went crazy again and MS offers a reg hack to disable identity control to stop it! I can see my mother doing that, and another email says they are aware it cant count data properly ie 133mb could be 13mb! so back to 7.5 till they fix it, I dont need emails telling me I missed a messsage as I was offline when I was actually online and the messenger crashing after video calls and hacking my reg to make it all better, all this tells me its not working as it was intended and three releases within a couple of months and still problems occuring, think about that! As to that patronising messenger blog about that "delicious breakfas"t its a heart attack on a plate Leah, clogging my pc with bloat and salt is bad for you by the way! I wish they had not been pushed to get this out without the resources and programmers they needed, everything takes a back seat for Vista and office 2007 it seems. Shame really.

HurricaneGame reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 9, 2006

it's a good IM program. uses quite a bit or memory, but thats ok..

wheres the damn change log?

statm1 reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 9, 2006

This is not an old build that was released back in June.. This build 8.0.812 was just released lastnight.

I had no trouble installing this build and it does not deter your system like some have said by fraging up your drive. I have been running v8 since december and have not yet experienced a slow down of my computer due to installing v8 of WLM. Period.

mike_diack reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 9, 2006

I've just tried upgrading from 8.0.792 to 8.0.812 and each time it's failing towards the end of the install and doing a rollback.
I'm installing with admin rights and am on XP Pro SP2.
I've also tried several different downloads of the installer in case it was somehow corrupt, but no luck. Anyone else having similar problems?

rseiler reviewed v8.0.0812 on Aug 9, 2006

@killhippie: WLM does not install Journal Reader Service. You must have gotten that elsewhere.

killhippie reviewed v8.0.0792 on Aug 4, 2006

How can anyone like a messenger that installs a service (Jrnl reader) that produces massive file defragmentation! This service kills the xp degrag, you can,t defrag that volume with it, i use Perfect Disc 7 and it suggests i do an offline defrag every few hours!! that much defragmentation of metadata in that service somewhere, now before anyone jumps on the "its having a crap pc/user has no ability" bandwagon I have a Voodoo rage with an AMD Athlon x2 4800 with 2 gig of Ocz platinum ram and a 400 gig HDD, and this behaviour was on a fresh install of windows pro (non oem) all the latest drivers etc etc (rolls eyes) the program may look nice and have some new toys but when it comes to the actual mechanics of it, logging in, offline/online status problems and defrag issues then its flawed pure and simple, and yes i got it from the proper site. 7.5 works well for me it does what i need till they sort this mess out, i like to see my contacts and have a stable defragmented Hdd thanks!

David_2005 reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 30, 2006

NOTE: If you're having problems with this and have ZoneAlarm v6.5.722.000 you must upgrade to a newer version for this to work properly.

This is the BEST IM client, i really don't like Yahoo, AOL etc .... so it's really good that we'll be able to add Yahoo contacts to this version, thank you so much Microsoft, also Windows Live Messenger, the look and feel is a lot better compared with MSN Messenger 7.5
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

bbfc reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 28, 2006

The best IM program, in my opinion.

Been using it since beta release and never had any major problems with it.

The UI is attractive and its a lot quicker than previous releases.

Adrian79 reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 18, 2006

gave it a three only, because it only worked the first day...now i cant get or send messeges to my yahoo :-(

kingkhearts reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 18, 2006

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! AN EXCUSE TO DROP YIM FOREVER!!!!

OK there is a Small problem though. Instead of it being in Final Form where all my YIM Contacts can be forced to contact me in Windows Live Messenger, They are instead at liberty to bypass and not bother with the Beta at all. Which means I have to wait for the Official release. Oh what the hell a 5 for Saving me from the Dreaded YIM, even if it is a bit away. :P

bunghole reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 13, 2006

Haven't had any problems with Live Messenger. I just wish it worked on W2K too.

Don Juan reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 13, 2006

Giving it a one just cause it's the same version? Seems a little harsh, after all they did unlock a feature that had been previously unavailable. Nice client, very feature rich, excellent memory usage. The ads are annoying but they're easy enough to get rid of.

tenebrusmke79 reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 13, 2006

For those having "trouble" with this build, it's not the fault of Microsoft, but your own. Ever thought of that.

Anyway, the interoperability works like a charm. I have yet to get a problem with it.

1uk3 reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 12, 2006

Great messenger. Roll on Yahoo Messenger cross platform chat.

No crashes here on XP SP2 (32 bit and 64 bit) or Vista (x64). You guys that have had problems must have some other software causing a conflict somewhere.

fxer reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jul 3, 2006

Program just freezes after logging in, try to click anywhere in the program...CRASH! A fine public beta!

FmlyRnn reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 30, 2006

Plain and simple it "CRASHES" on all of my [Networked] PC's, and Laptop! However, it did work on the Laptop for a while, then it "CRASHED".!!! Meanwhile, what I did find was if I allowed ad's to run on any of my systems, it worked fine. I am afraid that I will have to go back to using the "Windows Messenger" that comes with Windows [OS] Software. I just don't want to have ad's running. It would be nice if they gave an option.
FmlyRnn

lilmegz reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 26, 2006

I was selected as an official beta tester for this back in November of 2005 and have been using it since, lots of nice improvements and new features are included in this nice lil package :)

photonboy reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 22, 2006

Nothing crashed, it replaced my MSN Messenger flawlessly and it seems to have a lot of interesting new features. I'm not fussy about the interface but that will change. I switched to a different shade of blue and it was nicer on the eyes.

Microsoft is really feeling pressure from organizations such as Google who are dominating the web space. Microsoft makes money by becoming an integral part of people's lives. They're trying to make "Live Messenger/mail phones" they want to keep people using MSN home (advertising dollars). My Bell Sympatico Internet just updated my e-mail from 10MB to 2GB and gave me ten secondary accounts of 250MB each. Wow! Why? It turns out that Microsoft's footing the bill so that they can link us to their software. It ties into MSN but who cares? More e-mail space for all that spam! (actually I was running out severely)

Microsoft is also shutting out long-time internet security partners and trying to dominate that area too. But so what? As long as it works (cough cough) and they don't make it impossible for others to provide alternative solutions.

I've got no problems with Windows Live Messenger, but then I don't really need any of the new features either. As a Vista Beta tester with a fair amount of computer skills I have to say that I like the direction Microsoft is going.

This product is going to be user friendly and just plain useful. (and if you don't like it, search for a site that will remove the adds and modify it to your liking like www.mess.be

JonathanDoe reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 22, 2006

If you people would download it from the source maybe you wouldn't have a problem. Seems to work fine for me. Get it here: http://get.live.com/messenger/overview

abenjamin reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 22, 2006

I just installed Windows Messenger... and it fails upon opening. I get a "Windows Live Messenger has encountered a problem and needs to close" error every time I try to open it. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still the same thing. Typical Mocrosoft...

soroc reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 22, 2006

I love the messenger product from windows. I just wish that they wouldn't put that banner at the bottom but other then that it's a great product to use.

midnighter_9999 reviewed v8.0.0792 on Jun 22, 2006

I downloaded Windows Live Messenger 8.0.0792.00
Added a Yahoo Contact......but not able to chat with him....help please!!

PostDeals reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Wonder why the person incharge of WINDOWS live resigned? I hope there isn't a flaw or issue with it that we don't know about yet.

microFawad reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Coolest IM

xyzcb1 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Great app. Finally gave me a reason to upgrade from v6.4

Curlytopz reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Well ICQ I think has finally met it's match.
Kudos to MSN for a job well done.

Adrian79 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

nice work as always

Joe Dirt reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Good stuff. I'm very happy with the finished product.

Best IM app out there I think. ;)

GoodThings2Life reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

I really like this new version a lot... I'm a huge fan of the TabletPC ink messaging, and the improved audio/video quality when making calls.

JustExtreme has an appropriate name... he's taken an extreme position on it, and as such he can't even be taken seriously.

I can't really say I use the Shared Folders option either, but instead of being an idiot about it, I just turn it off and stick with standard file transfers.

JustExtreme reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Very few new features compared to MSN Messenger. SHARING FOLDERS ARE F**KING SHYTE! They copy the files you want to share into a folder in Application Data, very poor and retarded especially for those who use seperate partitions, there is a reason for it! To keep Windows seperate from files and keep it running smoothly, Microsoft you dissapoint me. This program is a reskinned MSN Messenger 7.5 with extra added cack.

mattnotley2004 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

5/5!! Love it! Faster, sleeker, sharing folders rocks! Contact renaming :)

mikeyx11 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Whinge whinge whinge...it has a couple of ads in the program here and there, which you CAN get rid of. The best IM client there is. Very clean, fast and easy-to-use interface.

Zankur reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Most people seem to have microsoft/symantec phobia and so they go ahead blindly slamming the product w/o even using it!!
WLM is an excellent update to its excellent msn messenger....
The interface is best and so are its features....and which idiot told u that its adware???/
every messenger whether yahoo or anyother do have ads,but they dont kill ur pc...
so,just shut-up if ur a MICROSOFT HATER!

statm1 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

If youve used previous builds theres not really anything different. But major improvement over MSN 7.5!! Great work WLM team!

As for the ad flamers.. How does ad's keep you from using the product? How do any ad's in any program keep you from using the product?? It does NOT keep you from IMing other people or other various tasks. And its not like they are advertising 2 for 1 pepsi.. Come on people..

rcadams reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 20, 2006

Excellent final build. Very clean, and fast. Best build of Messenger to date. Keep up the excellent work Microsoft!

ghammer reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

Only IM I use.
Of course, I'm not a Microsoft hater...

crashoverride reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

Better than the bloated AIM and the crash happy Yahoo Messenger. As far as the ads go....If you don't like them, why don't you suggest to Microsoft to make a paid ad free version or use one of those pathetic open source messengers.

mjm01010101 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

"# Totally updated look at feel
# Way improved connectivity & Performance"

Who writes this, Bill & Ted?

RoSmecher reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

i don't think it's that bad. i like the new skin interface. finally it has offline messages, geez :)

Velocition reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

2nd worst messenger ever.

"License: Adware"

1st worst messenger ever: AIM Triton

HurricaneGame reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

Best messenger ever.

eclipsingdivinity reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

MSN Messenger has always been impressive, so when Micrsoft rebrands it Live Messenger with added sleekness and features, it's hard to say bad things about it. It's better than AIM Triton in terms of usability and resources, and in my opinion edges Yahoo by a small margin through it's interface and shared folders.

Good Job MSN devs.

1uk3 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

Seems very good but not much change from the last beta.

Still waiting for that Yahoo messenger intergration!

Jordanr05 reviewed v8.0.0787 on Jun 19, 2006

It's a little on the bloated side - Why don't they ask you if you want to install crap like the video carosel?

Nevertheless the good outweighs the bad, notibly for two reasons:

1) Sharing folders work well for work or school projects when collaborating with team members

2) I've been wanting offline messages since the ICQ days. Finally it's been implemented.

liebefrauen reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 16, 2006

This is simply fantastic. The video and audio call quality is great. The general look and feel is sexy. More and more of my buddies and switching to windows live messenger and i am so pleased they are.

GimieGimieGimie reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

Definitely getting better with each new version but also getting more bloated ram use wise (general speed doesn't seem to be affected).

But what people should take note is how long it has taken the Microsoft team to add the current wonderful features in 8.0 everyone is raving about.

Yahoo Messenger! has had these very same features for YEARS and was able to perform them flawlessly with only half the memory consumption (25mb ram average) to boot.

It just shows you it *can* be done better and has been for years, Microsoft (like usual) have taken forever to catch up with the competition but dispite waiting for all these features for years, now they are finally here, i can finally enjoy them ;)

Version 8.0 is a fantastic update. Offline messages, new cooler look, new sounds, invisible mode, option to change chat window colour, folder sharing, all great!

Now all i need is to buy another stick of 512mb ram to up my system to 1 gig, (this 8.0 takes 50mb for one chat window!) but hey, i've been putting off a memory upgrade for over 2 years now! ;)

Still...while i appreciate the new msn i have to do this.

*Puts on his best Darth Vador impression*

Just one more version and MSN's transformation to the Yahoo side will be COMPLETE.

Vampmon reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

I really like this software, and i must admit, Microsoft is really starting to improve their software big time, (IE7, Windows Live Messenger ...)
Lots of neat new features such as the sharing folder, it looks a lot nicer overall, i was worried when i tried the first Alpha versions, it looked aweful, this seems to load up faster then the previous MSN Messenger 7.5.
The offline messaging feature is fantastic aswell, if someone is online (using Windows Live Messenger) and you're appear offline, you're able to talk to them, if they go offline, and send messages to them, they will recieve the messages as soon as they get online!

Tene reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

First of all, I don't see how finding this bloated relates to not having a life ...

Anyway, I tried it. I used it for quite a while ... at first I would've given it a 1. It is bloated. It is ugly. Having said that, I learned to accept the interface (the design, not the scheme).

I'll promptly be going back to Miranda. First of all, there's no way of making the interface fit in with my XP Style - I abhor that. Second, the ads, the tabs, the MSN Search bar, I found no way of turning off the sounds (though there probably is a way other than messing with Windows sounds).

It barely gets a 3. Just. Now trim it by say, 13-14MB & it'll get a 4.

Cionno reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

very very nice

but still file transfer speed over a nat or firewall sux unbelievable .. 1 mins for a 54k image
and i have a T3 line 10Mbit

Joe Dirt reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

First of all I have to say hats off to Microsoft. I usually dog on companies for lots of stuff. Not this time.

This is the best Instant Messenger application to be released ever.

Below are a few key things I like about it.

-I can turn tabs off
-I can change the color to anything I like
-Offline messaging (it's needed this for a while)
-The user interface is perfect
-The ads or video carosel at the bottom are small
-Shared folders

I really don't have any complaints about this IM application at all. This is a first for me I think.

Great Job Microsoft!!!

Now.....if they could reduce the size of the ads in Windows Live Mail I'd be even more happy. :-)

Mumoto reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

I don't like that the Preview display pics are so big, it should be in the same size as 7.5 otherwise I won't use Live Messenger ..

niknet reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

New Version Much Much Better Than Older! Currently Enable Login With Any MSN Passports! I Like Share Folder Option! Its Great New Feature!But After Installing New IE7 Beta2 I Have Problem With Program Loading "Error And Need To Close" Message What Is This? Whats Up?

Bischoff reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

To CyberDoc999: What a GREAT review! I just love it when people rate an application with alot of sensible reasons...

I think on the other hand that it's a great IM. Does what it should do and looks great too.
There's only one thing i don't quite get: On the screenshot there are alot of tabs on the side, but i've only got 1 (my contacts) tab. What's with that?

Anywho. would have given it 4 but i'll give it 5 just to irretate;)

Don Juan reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 10, 2006

Great improvements in this version. Gets better with every release.

ghammer reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 9, 2006

As good as IM gets.

Da5id reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 9, 2006

I am interested in VOIP. With this instant messenger, you can only call out -- no calls in. I like Yahoo IM -- I get a phone number that people can call from any land-line phone or I can call them. This is my only phone except for a cell that I use on the road. 3 bucks a month and @ 2 cents/minute to anywhere in the country. Sure beats the phone company!

robertguda reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 9, 2006

@slepax

I second that...pretty demotivating sight to see critics without arguments to back that up....been using this messenger for a while and i must say its refreshing...just one issue with the handwriting but i reckon it will get fixed...cant hurt anyone trying it out...

slepax reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 9, 2006

Although it still is a bit buggy (just a tiny bit) I will give it 5 starts, just to oppose those dumb asses giving 1 star for no reason.

CyberDoc999 reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 6, 2006

I rate it very low!
it is the worst!

Zankur reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 4, 2006

This is an excellent messenger,i am amazed the amount of improvement they have made since the last official beta...
Revamped interface and great new features,i think this is the best messenger available....
Plz,if you find this buggy or bloated than get a life!

Adrian79 reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

some of these comments are completly off the wall!! there is NOTHING buggy or wierd or crappy about this "piece of software".

great JOB windowslivemessenger team! ;-)

a must upgrade from msn 7.5

nukefixer reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

I have been a beta tester of this fine messenger from almost the beginning of the proposed version 8, and I use it quite extensively. I personally think its great, but again thats my opinion.

Sabz reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

Disgusting piece of software, hope M$$$ lose dearly on this program

EarlyMorningHours reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

Perhaps at some point software developers in general, and Microsoft specifically, will realize that less is more. More unused, buggy, security and privacy be damned features do not make a better client. I still marvel at how much better Windows Messenger 5.1 is than this. Maybe the version 9 series will be better but I won't hold my breath.

bakura reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

Outstanding IM program! I would give it a 5 if they added tabbed conversation windows and the ability to communicate with other networks. Yahoo and Microsoft supposidly came to an agreement to do that a few months ago.

decmk reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

15,090 KB for a messenger Blah.

wognum reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

it crashes at the moment i've just logged in :(

osric reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

wtf!!! who hosted this german version here. wasted my time.

nRadeo reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

I love it, ok ... its from MS. But it shows, thats Microsoft could make a great peace of software.

flyingmetalspatula reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

very very nice
check out mess.be for the english version of the download.

Overall, a very nice version of the WLM IM.
Very impressed.

tenebrusmke79 reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

"German? wtf!

The leaked one was at english"

Go here: http://ideas.live.com/mainpage.aspx and choose the Messenger Beta download, it's in English there.

lsproc reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

Its getting better and better. The new dark look will be branded on all live services soon!

Master- reviewed v8.0.0689 Beta on May 3, 2006

German? wtf!

The leaked one was at english...

niknet reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 26, 2006

Unable To Login Without Original MSN Email Address "Only" And Like Google Microsoft Abuse People With Invitations Why?

husky87 reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 25, 2006

you need to be invited to the beta test to use the software. thats no reason to vote it a 1 idiots.

I give it a 4, they still havn't fixed a few bugs that i've encountered.

srotman reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 22, 2006

tho i still think this is bloated, it does the job and it does it right. a few nice upgrades from 7.5 and im sure more to come.

also, WHY are there people here asking for invites or people offering??? does no one bother to read anymore? YOU DONT NEED AN INVITE TO USE THIS! ITS NOW OPEN TO THE PUBLIC!

go here: http://ideas.live.com/si...-497c-8e60-c6313f7ebb73
and sign in. it will add your email to the accepted beta testers list so when you run Live Messenger and try to sign in for the first time it will log you in. If you don't sign in on that page then you will get an error saying youre not a beta tester and to sign up elsewhere (which is no longer the right sign up page anyway)

sorry to rant, but i want to save people some time and stress

gumati reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 22, 2006

if anyone want a invtie send me e-mail and i'll give u one my e-mail is:gumati@dakstudios.com

Bugeyes reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 22, 2006

From what I can see from the login screen, it looks a bit cleaner.

My passport doesn't allow me to login yet. If someone can invite, I'll give it a bit more in depth review, 3 (avg) for now.

merrisl reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 22, 2006

The ability to assign meaningful nicknames (ie. rename people to what YOU want) means that this version is head and shoulders above the old ones.

Yes the interface isn't pretty YET but it's still beta. Functionally it's fine.
No issues with this at all so far.

If anyone wants an invite I have a few spare.
FrequentFlyer since they asked nicely & the others are first come, first served :)

rotjong reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

I tested this with one of my Passports that hadn't gotten an invite and it logged in fine.

I'm rating this a 4 because Microsoft is doing a good job over-hauling Messenger and they're listening to the users [beta testers]. For those who don't like the GUI then I'd recommend you read the WLM8 blogs for explanations as to what you may find wrong looks-wise.

JoeDirt, you're comparing MSN 7.5 which is a polished 7.x build with WLM 8 which is a beta and the GUI is in flux and they _know_ it doesn't look great yet. They're stuck trying to make the beta testers who liked the _new_ and _old_ looks happy and right now it's a combination of both. Read the WLM 8 blogs.

Yay! A New Version of Windows Live Messenger Beta [update]: http://spaces.msn.com/me...0F7FD930829E!8839.entry
A Summary Of Feedback On Latest WLM Beta: http://spaces.msn.com/me...F7FD930829E!10024.entry

NOTE: srotman, people are complaing because _some_ people can't login even though the beta has been opened to the public. Likely another MS error. As it stands I signed in with a non-invited Passport like 2 days ago. Today I received an invite from Microsoft for that Passport. A tad late, eh? And especially when you read the first sentence, "We'd like you to be among the first to try a new beta version of Messenger." What it really means, though, is that I now have access to the ideas.live.com site and I can download the betas with that Passport. They're too lazy to change the email.

FrequentFlyer reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

Have tested the WLM for a bit now.
- Very stable so far
- Cleaned up the interface a little
- Nickname option (finally!)
- Hide tab option (finally!)
- Added 'Folder Sharing' Feature
- Added 'Windows Live Safety' Feature (mandatory for Folder Sharing)
- Individual color adjusting of WLM interface
- Calling feature (definite Skype competition)

WLM should not be confuse with MSN - this is the follow up to WINDOWS Messanger which was originally intended for companies. I am guessing WLM will even in final overlap very much with MSN Messanger. (http://www.livemessenger.net/)

Still need an invitation though please to hweiland@hotmail.com (currently only using a patch to run WLM) thx

JonathanDoe reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

I still can't sign-in, not sure why if it is suppose to be open. I've read that it isn't, people just thought it was because of the UK site.
http://www.msn.co.uk/mes...eta/Default.asp?MSPSA=1

And BetaNews should update the link for Windows Live Messenger, unless it will use the old MSN Messenger site once it is out of beta.
http://ideas.live.com/pr...-497c-8e60-c6313f7ebb73

atsaunier reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

I been testing this since its started, but it has been released to the public. i tried several other names on it and it has allowed them to sign on it.

Joe Dirt reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

Junk.

Worse than 7.5 by far.

The only thing that this is good for is offline messaging. That's the only reason I gave it a 2 and not a 1.

Come on Microsoft, you can do better.......I hope....

Adrian79 reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

now there letting everyone use it!! sweeet...i dont have to invite no more peeps!

yup, just last week u needed invitation..so good job on updating us on the news betanews!!

pjb reviewed v8.0.0566 Beta on Mar 21, 2006

This release has been out for about 2 weeks now. Still room for improvement. PS You still need a invite to use this. Not sure where Betanews believe you can obtain and use it without one.